Re: New member and need your help

[Guest guest]

Please don't do any more challenge tests. They are dangerous and do not provide

useful info. This doc does not understand mercury toxicity and most likely uses

a dangerous protocol. Consider a DDI hair elements test (with counting rules

applied) if you're not convinced by the porphyrin test.) Consider chelating on

your own without this doc.

S S

New member and need your help

Posted by: " Azmerallda " azmerallda@... azmerallda@...

Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:15 pm (PST)

Hi everyone

i am a new member to the group and want your help

the porphyrin test for my daughter (7 years old) show strongly mercury toxicity

indicated by increased 5cxp, prcp and cp values

Her new doctor believe that porphyrin test only indicates that it might have

mercury toxicity and we cann't depend on it to start chelation

so her mercury level in urine was detected before and after taking DMSA (200 mg,

her weight is 20 kg)and the mercury level was in the normal range in two

cases!!!

I am really confused what to believe??

Did my daughter have or haven't mercury toxicity???

Any reply will be appreciated

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[Guest guest]

Your doctor sounds a little lacking in knowledge about mercury toxicity.

Do a hair test and apply Andy's counting rules.

Or better yet, do a ten round trial of chelation following the AC protocol.

If you get good results, you know your child is toxic and you are heading in the

right direction.

Tests can be misleading, especially urine tests. Chelate and look at the

results.

Read the FAQs and other info in the files section of this group.

TJ

 

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From: Azmerallda <azmerallda@...>

Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 4:14:01 PM

Subject: [ ] New member and need your help

 

Hi everyone

i am a new member to the group and want your help

the porphyrin test for my daughter (7 years old) show strongly mercury toxicity

indicated by increased 5cxp, prcp and cp values

Her new doctor believe that porphyrin test only indicates that it might have

mercury toxicity and we cann't depend on it to start chelation

so her mercury level in urine was detected before and after taking DMSA (200 mg,

her weight is 20 kg)and the mercury level was in the normal range in two

cases!!!

I am really confused what to believe??

Did my daughter have or haven't mercury toxicity???

Any reply will be appreciated

[Guest guest]

Hello

Can you tell me how much AC chelation costs per month so that I can budget

We already have 15 months of DAN vitamins in place so im just talking about the

DMSA/ ALA type things

Also where is best place for hair test - I used a place 3 times in Surrey, UK,

but the results were very vague and not very useful

Best wishes

From: tj_werth@...

Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:50:42 -0800

Subject: Re: [ ] New member and need your help

Your doctor sounds a little lacking in knowledge about mercury toxicity.

Do a hair test and apply Andy's counting rules.

Or better yet, do a ten round trial of chelation following the AC protocol.

If you get good results, you know your child is toxic and you are heading in the

right direction.

Tests can be misleading, especially urine tests. Chelate and look at the

results.

Read the FAQs and other info in the files section of this group.

TJ

________________________________

From: Azmerallda <azmerallda@...>

Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 4:14:01 PM

Subject: [ ] New member and need your help

Hi everyone

i am a new member to the group and want your help

the porphyrin test for my daughter (7 years old) show strongly mercury toxicity

indicated by increased 5cxp, prcp and cp values

Her new doctor believe that porphyrin test only indicates that it might have

mercury toxicity and we cann't depend on it to start chelation

so her mercury level in urine was detected before and after taking DMSA (200 mg,

her weight is 20 kg)and the mercury level was in the normal range in two

cases!!!

I am really confused what to believe??

Did my daughter have or haven't mercury toxicity???

Any reply will be appreciated

[Guest guest]

,

I have no idea how much your DMSA/ALA will cost in the UK. Here in Wisconsin, I

think I spend about $70/month to chelate both my son and myself. He takes

DMSA/ALA and I take ALA. Both from Kirkman Labs. I'm sure I could buy cheaper

ALA but this is easy and has a good track record in our house.

If you are tight for money, take a look at your DAN! vitamins to see if anything

can be bought cheaper or eliminated completely. DAN! doctors are notorious for

spending our money on supplements.

I use Doctor's Data hair tests from the USA. Do you have access?

pam

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>

> Hello

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>

>

> Can you tell me how much AC chelation costs per month so that I can budget

>

>

>

> We already have 15 months of DAN vitamins in place so im just talking about

the DMSA/ ALA type things

>

>

>

> Also where is best place for hair test - I used a place 3 times in Surrey, UK,

but the results were very vague and not very useful

>

>

>

> Best wishes

>

>

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>

>

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> From: tj_werth@...

> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:50:42 -0800

> Subject: Re: [ ] New member and need your help

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>

>

>

>

> Your doctor sounds a little lacking in knowledge about mercury toxicity.

> Do a hair test and apply Andy's counting rules.

> Or better yet, do a ten round trial of chelation following the AC protocol.

> If you get good results, you know your child is toxic and you are heading in

the right direction.

> Tests can be misleading, especially urine tests. Chelate and look at the

results.

> Read the FAQs and other info in the files section of this group.

> TJ

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Azmerallda <azmerallda@...>

>

> Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 4:14:01 PM

> Subject: [ ] New member and need your help

>

>

> Hi everyone

> i am a new member to the group and want your help

> the porphyrin test for my daughter (7 years old) show strongly mercury

toxicity indicated by increased 5cxp, prcp and cp values

> Her new doctor believe that porphyrin test only indicates that it might have

mercury toxicity and we cann't depend on it to start chelation

> so her mercury level in urine was detected before and after taking DMSA (200

mg, her weight is 20 kg)and the mercury level was in the normal range in two

cases!!!

> I am really confused what to believe??

> Did my daughter have or haven't mercury toxicity???

> Any reply will be appreciated

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 18/02/2010 09:48:05 GMT Standard Time,

peter_2_@... writes:

Can you tell me how much AC chelation costs per month so that I can budget

>>How much does your child weigh in pounds? That affects the dose and

then you can work out how long a pot of DMSA and or ALA would last

Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 18/02/2010 09:48:05 GMT Standard Time,

peter_2_@... writes:

Also where is best place for hair test - I used a place 3 times in Surrey,

UK, but the results were very vague and not very useful

_www.directlabs.com_ (http://www.directlabs.com)

You want the ELEMENTAL (not toxic) HAIR test and mention you are a member

of the 'Autism Group' for a small discount

HTH

Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 18/02/2010 22:23:11 GMT Standard Time,

peter_2_@... writes:

about 50 lbs ... 1 metre 15 or so - age 5 yrs 3 months

>>I'd be inclined to split 25mg caps into 5mg doses and for DMSA you'd be

looking at 16-18 doses for a weekend round, 5 doses per cap, 4 capsules per

round, DMSA is about £30 for 100 and ALA (20 - 24 doses) £16 for 90 so

probably a lot cheaper than most supps you are using.

Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

Get a DDI (Doctor's Data, Inc.), hair elements test and make sure to apply the

counting rules or post results here and we'll help. You have to order the test

through DLS (Direct Lab Services) If you mention this list they'll give you a

discount.

S S

Re: New member and need your help

Posted by: " B " peter_2_@... bornlivelife2

Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:47 am (PST)

Hello

Can you tell me how much AC chelation costs per month so that I can budget

We already have 15 months of DAN vitamins in place so im just talking about the

DMSA/ ALA type things

Also where is best place for hair test - I used a place 3 times in Surrey, UK,

but the results were very vague and not very useful

Best wishes

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, Liviing network is a site that sells ALA and DMSA overseas, believe they

ship to UK and may give a good idea of what you'll spend.

http://livingnetwork.co.za/

Karla

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> >

> > Hello

> >

> >

> >

> > Can you tell me how much AC chelation costs per month so that I can budget

> >

> >

> >

> > We already have 15 months of DAN vitamins in place so im just talking about

the DMSA/ ALA type things

> >

> >

> >

> > Also where is best place for hair test - I used a place 3 times in Surrey,

UK, but the results were very vague and not very useful

> >

> >

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> >

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> > From: tj_werth@

> > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:50:42 -0800

> > Subject: Re: [ ] New member and need your help

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Your doctor sounds a little lacking in knowledge about mercury toxicity.

> > Do a hair test and apply Andy's counting rules.

> > Or better yet, do a ten round trial of chelation following the AC protocol.

> > If you get good results, you know your child is toxic and you are heading in

the right direction.

> > Tests can be misleading, especially urine tests. Chelate and look at the

results.

> > Read the FAQs and other info in the files section of this group.

> > TJ

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Azmerallda <azmerallda@>

> >

> > Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 4:14:01 PM

> > Subject: [ ] New member and need your help

> >

> >

> > Hi everyone

> > i am a new member to the group and want your help

> > the porphyrin test for my daughter (7 years old) show strongly mercury

toxicity indicated by increased 5cxp, prcp and cp values

> > Her new doctor believe that porphyrin test only indicates that it might have

mercury toxicity and we cann't depend on it to start chelation

> > so her mercury level in urine was detected before and after taking DMSA (200

mg, her weight is 20 kg)and the mercury level was in the normal range in two

cases!!!

> > I am really confused what to believe??

> > Did my daughter have or haven't mercury toxicity???

> > Any reply will be appreciated

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

about 50 lbs ... 1 metre 15 or so - age 5 yrs 3 months

From: Mum231ASD@...

Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:14:55 -0500

Subject: Re: [ ] New member and need your help

In a message dated 18/02/2010 09:48:05 GMT Standard Time,

peter_2_@... writes:

Can you tell me how much AC chelation costs per month so that I can budget

>>How much does your child weigh in pounds? That affects the dose and

then you can work out how long a pot of DMSA and or ALA would last

Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

Thanks TJ for your reply, i really appreciate your help

Although my daughter's doctor think she doesn't need chelation he prescribe

chlorella to her...

has anyone use it? any feedback positive or negative will be appreciated

azmerallda

>

> Your doctor sounds a little lacking in knowledge about mercury toxicity.

> Do a hair test and apply Andy's counting rules.

> Or better yet, do a ten round trial of chelation following the AC protocol.

> If you get good results, you know your child is toxic and you are heading in

the right direction.

> Tests can be misleading, especially urine tests. Chelate and look at the

results.

> Read the FAQs and other info in the files section of this group.

> TJ

>

>  

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Azmerallda <azmerallda@...>

>

> Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 4:14:01 PM

> Subject: [ ] New member and need your help

>

>  

> Hi everyone

> i am a new member to the group and want your help

> the porphyrin test for my daughter (7 years old) show strongly mercury

toxicity indicated by increased 5cxp, prcp and cp values

> Her new doctor believe that porphyrin test only indicates that it might have

mercury toxicity and we cann't depend on it to start chelation

> so her mercury level in urine was detected before and after taking DMSA (200

mg, her weight is 20 kg)and the mercury level was in the normal range in two

cases!!!

> I am really confused what to believe??

> Did my daughter have or haven't mercury toxicity???

> Any reply will be appreciated

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Reading about it on the internet it is suppose to have detoxing properties.

I would stick with something that has known properties, like ALA and DMSA.

TJ

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From: Azmerallda <azmerallda@...>

Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 4:03:30 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: New member and need your help

 

Thanks TJ for your reply, i really appreciate your help

Although my daughter's doctor think she doesn't need chelation he prescribe

chlorella to her...

has anyone use it? any feedback positive or negative will be appreciated

azmerallda

>

> Your doctor sounds a little lacking in knowledge about mercury toxicity.

> Do a hair test and apply Andy's counting rules.

> Or better yet, do a ten round trial of chelation following the AC protocol.

> If you get good results, you know your child is toxic and you are heading in

the right direction.

> Tests can be misleading, especially urine tests. Chelate and look at the

results.

> Read the FAQs and other info in the files section of this group.

> TJ

>

>  

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Azmerallda <azmerallda@ ...>

>

> Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 4:14:01 PM

> Subject: [ ] New member and need your help

>

>  

> Hi everyone

> i am a new member to the group and want your help

> the porphyrin test for my daughter (7 years old) show strongly mercury

toxicity indicated by increased 5cxp, prcp and cp values

> Her new doctor believe that porphyrin test only indicates that it might have

mercury toxicity and we cann't depend on it to start chelation

> so her mercury level in urine was detected before and after taking DMSA (200

mg, her weight is 20 kg)and the mercury level was in the normal range in two

cases!!!

> I am really confused what to believe??

> Did my daughter have or haven't mercury toxicity???

> Any reply will be appreciated

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Azmerallda wrote:

>

>

> Thanks TJ for your reply, i really appreciate your help

>

> Although my daughter's doctor think she doesn't need chelation he

> prescribe chlorella to her...

> has anyone use it? any feedback positive or negative will be appreciated

> azmerallda

>

Do not touch chlorella. It is not a chelator, but will stir up mercury.

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/119976.html

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> >

> > Your doctor sounds a little lacking in knowledge about mercury toxicity.

> > Do a hair test and apply Andy's counting rules.

> > Or better yet, do a ten round trial of chelation following the AC

> protocol.

> > If you get good results, you know your child is toxic and you are

> heading in the right direction.

> > Tests can be misleading, especially urine tests. Chelate and look at

> the results.

> > Read the FAQs and other info in the files section of this group.

> > TJ

> >

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> > From: Azmerallda <azmerallda@...>

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> > Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 4:14:01 PM

> > Subject: [ ] New member and need your help

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> > Hi everyone

> > i am a new member to the group and want your help

> > the porphyrin test for my daughter (7 years old) show strongly

> mercury toxicity indicated by increased 5cxp, prcp and cp values

> > Her new doctor believe that porphyrin test only indicates that it

> might have mercury toxicity and we cann't depend on it to start chelation

> > so her mercury level in urine was detected before and after taking

> DMSA (200 mg, her weight is 20 kg)and the mercury level was in the

> normal range in two cases!!!

> > I am really confused what to believe??

> > Did my daughter have or haven't mercury toxicity???

> > Any reply will be appreciated

> >

> >

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