Re: GSE/ OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT FOR STIMMING???

[Guest guest]

Hi:

I my experience with my son, he start with colloidal silver as naturalist

recommend, no difference in a week , then we start Biocidin: a complete herbal

blend it was better than colloidal for him ; but then we decide to go with the

pediatrician for Diflucan (4 bottles) was amazing ; and now he is in Yeast Aid

(Kirkman) and Grape Seed chewable (kirkman) he is also in Spirulina (liquid

grape flavor (Revita) that spirulina also works for bacteria and yeast in GI.

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Enviado: vie, abril 30, 2010 3:45:56 PM

Asunto: [ ] GSE/ OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT FOR STIMMING???

Yesterday my son was laughing to himself for the first time (which was very

scary for me to see him do that) and lining up his toys a lot after a few days

of not doing much stimming so after some research and advice from previous

posts, we've decided to try to control this yeasty behavior.

I read on " Dana's view " that GSE and Olive Leaf Extract is good for yeast/

bacteria control but I have no idea how to use it for his age/ weight. I'm also

afraid for him to have a bad reaction because he tends to have reactions to high

phenol fruits like banana and raw tomatoes. Unfortunately, we're overseas and

the local food store didn't have a nophenol enzyme:( Should I still give him the

GSE or should I just stick to the Olive leaf extract or should I buy him the Oil

of Oregano or try something else?

Our son is 22 months old and weighs 35lbs. (big boy for his age). This is of

course my first time trying to help him with this and I'm feeling nervous

because I don't want to make things worse for him.

If someone can please provide some advice I would greatly appreciate it!

Thank you:)

[Guest guest]

> I read on " Dana's view " that GSE and Olive Leaf Extract is good for yeast/

bacteria control but I have no idea how to use it for his age/ weight. I'm also

afraid for him to have a bad reaction because he tends to have reactions to high

phenol fruits like banana and raw tomatoes. Unfortunately, we're overseas and

the local food store didn't have a nophenol enzyme:( Should I still give him the

GSE or should I just stick to the Olive leaf extract or should I buy him the Oil

of Oregano or try something else?

> Our son is 22 months old and weighs 35lbs. (big boy for his age).

I would start with one drop of GSE, in the morning. Or, you can give biotin

instead, which is not high phenol.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Be careful with the GSE. my 26 month old's liver enzymes came back elevated and

i had recently used GSE, which is known to do that. Keep the dose low and don't

use long-term.

Also, I love biocidin but for my 5 year old it made his penis feel weird. after

doing some research i learned that biocidin is high in oxalates which can cause

crystals in the urine. we had him tested for a UTI but he did not have one. when

i stopped biocidin the strange feeling went away.

Don't mean to bash your ideas! I do love Oil of Oregano and Caprylic Acid for

yeast. You should rotate antifungals every 4 days for maximum efficacy.

>

> Yesterday my son was laughing to himself for the first time (which was very

scary for me to see him do that) and lining up his toys a lot after a few days

of not doing much stimming so after some research and advice from previous

posts, we've decided to try to control this yeasty behavior.

>

> I read on " Dana's view " that GSE and Olive Leaf Extract is good for yeast/

bacteria control but I have no idea how to use it for his age/ weight. I'm also

afraid for him to have a bad reaction because he tends to have reactions to high

phenol fruits like banana and raw tomatoes. Unfortunately, we're overseas and

the local food store didn't have a nophenol enzyme:( Should I still give him the

GSE or should I just stick to the Olive leaf extract or should I buy him the Oil

of Oregano or try something else?

>

> Our son is 22 months old and weighs 35lbs. (big boy for his age). This is of

course my first time trying to help him with this and I'm feeling nervous

because I don't want to make things worse for him.

>

> If someone can please provide some advice I would greatly appreciate it!

>

> Thank you:)

>

[Guest guest]

How about the olive leaf extract? Should I give him that too? If so, how/ when?

Thanx so much Dana! Your advice is always great!!

> > I read on " Dana's view " that GSE and Olive Leaf Extract is good for yeast/

bacteria control but I have no idea how to use it for his age/ weight. I'm also

afraid for him to have a bad reaction because he tends to have reactions to high

phenol fruits like banana and raw tomatoes. Unfortunately, we're overseas and

the local food store didn't have a nophenol enzyme:( Should I still give him the

GSE or should I just stick to the Olive leaf extract or should I buy him the Oil

of Oregano or try something else?

> > Our son is 22 months old and weighs 35lbs. (big boy for his age).

>

>

> I would start with one drop of GSE, in the morning. Or, you can give biotin

instead, which is not high phenol.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> How about the olive leaf extract? Should I give him that too? If so, how/

when?

I used OLE as anti-bacterial and anti-viral. I started with 250mg and worked up

as required.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Is it ok to give at the same time as the GSE? Also, does the OLE help with

stimming?

Thanks so much Dana!

> > How about the olive leaf extract? Should I give him that too? If so, how/

when?

>

>

> I used OLE as anti-bacterial and anti-viral. I started with 250mg and worked

up as required.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> Is it ok to give at the same time as the GSE?

Yes.

>> Also, does the OLE help with stimming?

Depends on the stims.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi Dana, thanks for your response!

We're on day 4 of giving our son 1 drop of GSE in the morning. Somehow it seems

like he's regressing occasionally since we started the GSE by being aggressive,

crying for no reason plus stimming again which he hadn't been doing for a couple

of days. He also has a rash on his belly, elbows and redness on his anus and

penis. Could this be yeast die off or is he not tolerating the GSE?

I finally found Biotin 5,000mcg today so I gave him one capsule with dinner, is

this okay or should I be giving it to him along with the GSE in the morning?

Thank you in advance:)

> > Is it ok to give at the same time as the GSE?

>

>

> Yes.

>

>

> >> Also, does the OLE help with stimming?

>

>

> Depends on the stims.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> Hi Dana, thanks for your response!

> We're on day 4 of giving our son 1 drop of GSE in the morning. Somehow it

seems like he's regressing occasionally since we started the GSE by being

aggressive, crying for no reason plus stimming again which he hadn't been doing

for a couple of days. He also has a rash on his belly, elbows and redness on his

anus and penis. Could this be yeast die off or is he not tolerating the GSE?

Either. Try giving the GSE with No-Fenol enzyme, see if that helps.

> I finally found Biotin 5,000mcg today so I gave him one capsule with dinner,

is this okay or should I be giving it to him along with the GSE in the morning?

Either, or both. I had to give 20mg biotin 3x per day, plus GSE, when my son's

yeast was really bad.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thx Dana! Unfortunately it's hard for me to get a hold of the No phenol but I've

ordered it in the mail and hope it comes soon!

> > Hi Dana, thanks for your response!

> > We're on day 4 of giving our son 1 drop of GSE in the morning. Somehow it

seems like he's regressing occasionally since we started the GSE by being

aggressive, crying for no reason plus stimming again which he hadn't been doing

for a couple of days. He also has a rash on his belly, elbows and redness on his

anus and penis. Could this be yeast die off or is he not tolerating the GSE?

>

>

> Either. Try giving the GSE with No-Fenol enzyme, see if that helps.

>

>

> > I finally found Biotin 5,000mcg today so I gave him one capsule with dinner,

is this okay or should I be giving it to him along with the GSE in the morning?

>

>

> Either, or both. I had to give 20mg biotin 3x per day, plus GSE, when my

son's yeast was really bad.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

We're on week 2 of giving our son, 22mts. old, 35lbs., the 1 drop of GSE in the

morning along with Biotin (1000mcg) 2x a day, magnesium, Vit C, epsom salt

baths, etc.

I'm very concerned because he still has the rash on his belly, elbows and sides

of his lower back and still after having ear tube surgery last Thursday and a

couple of days where he had regressed, the last two days have been quite good as

far as eye contact, trying to speak, but he's still doing some stimming and of

course he's non verbal. Today he's been having fluffy/ mucousy poops, bloated

belly and he had a mild fever this evening with no appetite and sleeping a lot:/

I did read somewhere that these could be signs of die off but I'm wondering if I

should stop the GSE because he's just not tolerated it or should I give him OLE

for bacteria? I'm still waiting on the No-phenol and Culterelle to arrive since

I'm overseas.

Any info. is so greatly appreciated.

> > > Hi Dana, thanks for your response!

> > > We're on day 4 of giving our son 1 drop of GSE in the morning. Somehow it

seems like he's regressing occasionally since we started the GSE by being

aggressive, crying for no reason plus stimming again which he hadn't been doing

for a couple of days. He also has a rash on his belly, elbows and redness on his

anus and penis. Could this be yeast die off or is he not tolerating the GSE?

> >

> >

> > Either. Try giving the GSE with No-Fenol enzyme, see if that helps.

> >

> >

> > > I finally found Biotin 5,000mcg today so I gave him one capsule with

dinner, is this okay or should I be giving it to him along with the GSE in the

morning?

> >

> >

> > Either, or both. I had to give 20mg biotin 3x per day, plus GSE, when my

son's yeast was really bad.

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

[Guest guest]

This sounds like die-off. Id keep the GSE and give some activated charcoal (@45

min to an hr away from the sups) to mop up the toxins and see if that helps.

Karla

> > > > Hi Dana, thanks for your response!

> > > > We're on day 4 of giving our son 1 drop of GSE in the morning. Somehow

it seems like he's regressing occasionally since we started the GSE by being

aggressive, crying for no reason plus stimming again which he hadn't been doing

for a couple of days. He also has a rash on his belly, elbows and redness on his

anus and penis. Could this be yeast die off or is he not tolerating the GSE?

> > >

> > >

> > > Either. Try giving the GSE with No-Fenol enzyme, see if that helps.

> > >

> > >

> > > > I finally found Biotin 5,000mcg today so I gave him one capsule with

dinner, is this okay or should I be giving it to him along with the GSE in the

morning?

> > >

> > >

> > > Either, or both. I had to give 20mg biotin 3x per day, plus GSE, when my

son's yeast was really bad.

> > >

> > > Dana

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Does the rash to away with like Benadryl? Could he be having an allergic

reaction to laundry soap, foods or you think from the surgery? A little

cortisone cream? Is he scratching?

Tammy

[ ] Re: GSE/ OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT FOR STIMMING???

We're on week 2 of giving our son, 22mts. old, 35lbs., the 1 drop of GSE in

the morning along with Biotin (1000mcg) 2x a day, magnesium, Vit C, epsom salt

baths, etc.

I'm very concerned because he still has the rash on his belly, elbows and

sides of his lower back and still after having ear tube surgery last Thursday

and a couple of days where he had regressed, the last two days have been quite

good as far as eye contact, trying to speak, but he's still doing some stimming

and of course he's non verbal. Today he's been having fluffy/ mucousy poops,

bloated belly and he had a mild fever this evening with no appetite and sleeping

a lot:/

I did read somewhere that these could be signs of die off but I'm wondering if

I should stop the GSE because he's just not tolerated it or should I give him

OLE for bacteria? I'm still waiting on the No-phenol and Culterelle to arrive

since I'm overseas.

Any info. is so greatly appreciated.

> > > Hi Dana, thanks for your response!

> > > We're on day 4 of giving our son 1 drop of GSE in the morning. Somehow

it seems like he's regressing occasionally since we started the GSE by being

aggressive, crying for no reason plus stimming again which he hadn't been doing

for a couple of days. He also has a rash on his belly, elbows and redness on his

anus and penis. Could this be yeast die off or is he not tolerating the GSE?

> >

> >

> > Either. Try giving the GSE with No-Fenol enzyme, see if that helps.

> >

> >

> > > I finally found Biotin 5,000mcg today so I gave him one capsule with

dinner, is this okay or should I be giving it to him along with the GSE in the

morning?

> >

> >

> > Either, or both. I had to give 20mg biotin 3x per day, plus GSE, when my

son's yeast was really bad.

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> I'm very concerned because he still has the rash on his belly, elbows and

sides of his lower back and still after having ear tube surgery last Thursday

and a couple of days where he had regressed, the last two days have been quite

good as far as eye contact, trying to speak, but he's still doing some stimming

and of course he's non verbal. Today he's been having fluffy/ mucousy poops,

bloated belly and he had a mild fever this evening with no appetite and sleeping

a lot:/

This can be die off, but it can also mean overgrowth. I would try increasing

the GSE, see if that helps.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi Dana:

Can you tell me how I should dose the GSE and OLE for him? Maybe I'm still

giving too little because he still has that rash. Maybe I should've asked this

from the beginning before I started to give him any:/ Also, aside from Biotin,

No Phenol, Culterelle, Activated Charcoal, and Epsom Salt baths is there

anything else I should be giving him to help his gut?

Thank you very much in advance.

> > I'm very concerned because he still has the rash on his belly, elbows and

sides of his lower back and still after having ear tube surgery last Thursday

and a couple of days where he had regressed, the last two days have been quite

good as far as eye contact, trying to speak, but he's still doing some stimming

and of course he's non verbal. Today he's been having fluffy/ mucousy poops,

bloated belly and he had a mild fever this evening with no appetite and sleeping

a lot:/

>

>

> This can be die off, but it can also mean overgrowth. I would try increasing

the GSE, see if that helps.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> Hi Dana:

> Can you tell me how I should dose the GSE and OLE for him? Maybe I'm still

giving too little because he still has that rash.

If you think you are not giving enough, try giving another dose during the day.

So for example, if you are giving 2 doses per day, try giving three.

>>Also, aside from Biotin, No Phenol, Culterelle, Activated Charcoal, and Epsom

Salt baths is there anything else I should be giving him to help his gut?

What helped my son's gut the most, was digestive enzymes, biotin, B vitamins,

and ALA. There were other things that helped also.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dana! I just felt unsure since he's so young (22 months old) and how even

a small dose could affect him since I also heard that GSE is not good for too

long but at the same time I would like to resolve his yeast issues.

> > Hi Dana:

> > Can you tell me how I should dose the GSE and OLE for him? Maybe I'm still

giving too little because he still has that rash.

>

>

> If you think you are not giving enough, try giving another dose during the

day. So for example, if you are giving 2 doses per day, try giving three.

>

>

> >>Also, aside from Biotin, No Phenol, Culterelle, Activated Charcoal, and

Epsom Salt baths is there anything else I should be giving him to help his gut?

>

>

> What helped my son's gut the most, was digestive enzymes, biotin, B vitamins,

and ALA. There were other things that helped also.

>

> Dana

>