Guest guest Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 I would have to tell you that my children are recovering from Autism using the AC protocol of chelation. Chelation is the process of removing heavy metals like mercury and lead from the body and brain. TJ ________________________________ From: tastitales <tastitales@...> Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 12:33:28 PM Subject: [ ] immunizations/mercury theory is debunked What do you say to someone who insists that, there is no proof or studies to show the link. that i am just a angry momo because my son has autism and looking for something to grab on to. I am not intelligent for listening to DR. who says mercury poisoning is responsible for my son's autism. DR. are just making money off me. fustrated mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 You could ask them if they would be willing to drink a calibrated amount of ethyl mercury that is comparable to the ratio our children received via vaccines just to prove to you that THEIR theory is correct and that ethyl mercury is not neuro toxic to anyone. let's see, my son got 200 times the EPA limit for mercury in a single day for an adult when he only weighed about fifteen to twenty pounds. So that would have to be calibrated to be the same ratio for a man weighing 165 pounds. Do you think willing to do this? Look, you are probably not going to convince any people who are " sheep. " Most of the people in the world are followers --they just believe and do a they are told. They will tell you that " studies prove vaccines have saved us all, " : but when you ask to see those studies and you ask who funded the studies, then they get mad at you. You can't win the argument. All you can do is to prevent further damage to your child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 I know how you feel. Some people just don't get it until they live it. Sadly they don't read about what is actually in vaccines. If they would read the ingredients and list of side effects....they might get a clue. It's very annoying not being validated....I think we all know that here. Doctors are part of a group, a club if you will, and most of them stick together. Most of the general public has no idea what's in a vaccine or a metal filling and they trust wholeheartedly what they are told. I think we all were like this at one point in our lives until autism happened. Then we realized that we were lied too. Just remember you don't have to prove anything. You lived it. There are thousands of parents around the world behind you. There are website and studies that are revealing the truth. Some people try to hush it up, but the masses are getting louder and louder. I have had people tell me there's no proof. But if it's not the metals why are these kids getting better when you take out the metals? and you bet we are angry. Ask them how they'd feel if someone messed up their kid? Children were not like this 100 years ago and certainly not so many. The one thing that has changed is how many shots they put into infants. This is all a very hard thing to learn to live with. You never get over it entirely, you just learn ways to make it productive. Hang in there! Jan > > What do you say to someone who insists that, there is no proof or studies to show the link. that i am just a angry momo because my son has autism and looking for something to grab on to. I am not intelligent for listening to DR. who says mercury poisoning is responsible for my son's autism. DR. are just making money off me. > > fustrated mom > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 For the most part, I avoid conversations of that sort. You haven't really given a context, so I can't say how you might avoid it. Part of the reason I avoid it: I tend to operate on the assumption that ideas like that scare and upset people because *it hits too close to home*: If mercury damaged YOUR kid that badly, maybe they are poisoning their own and just not seeing the damage yet. A rule of thumb I came up with in my twenties: " You can't keep lying to yourself if you admit the truth to someone else. " So when someone is desperate and adamant and hostile...etc... about something like that, I just try to back out of the mess because I figure the odds are very high that what they are really doing is giving themselves a pep-talk to the effect of " I'm a good mom! I am NOT poisoning my kids like this utter psycho is implying. It really IS safe, my doctor said so and I can TRUST my doctor. (yadda yadda) " It's not that they care what you believe about your child it is that your views are threatening their world view and that cannot be tolerated because that is scary stuff. I am usually dealing with such reactions from the cystic fibrosis community (rather than in relation to ASD) where I am met with enormous hostility for getting well and being willing to share what worked for me (and my son). Part of me finds this baffling given their mantra of wanting " a cure " . But part of me totally understands how upsetting and frightening it is to hear that you can get well, you just have to stop believing in and trusting the people you turn to regularly whenever your life hangs in the balance. Not exactly cheery news. Michele http://www.healthgazelle.com http://www.kidslikemine.com http://www.solanorail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Unless they are immediate family members (like a spouse), I would say they respectfully need to mind their own business. Honestly, there haven't been a lot of quality studies on Autism and there are doctors out there who will take advantage of you and you probably are a bit angry. That doesn't mean you are wrong to believe your child was damaged by vaccines and other environmental exposures (it isn't all about the mercury), but it does mean you need to be careful about who you let treat your child and what you chose to treat him with. good luck to you. Pam > > What do you say to someone who insists that, there is no proof or studies to show the link. that i am just a angry momo because my son has autism and looking for something to grab on to. I am not intelligent for listening to DR. who says mercury poisoning is responsible for my son's autism. DR. are just making money off me. > > fustrated mom > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 A couple of years ago, I went to see a gastro doc but he was booked and they asked if I would see his new associate. I got to talking with this doctor about what happened to my son and the fact my father had died and I was having to take care of my mom, too, and I was sure my stomach was due to stress. Well, talk about divine providence, he told me his son was poisoned by vaccines too! Even he had a hard time discussing it with his colleges. they are just so blinded by whatever. It just seems that in these days, if it hasn't happened to your child, then it can't be true. This doctor and his wife healed their son. They saw Dr. Rao, and they went to Dr. H. Rea at the environmental health clinic in Dallas. Dr. Sethi told me that Dr. Rea helped his son the most. It involved a strict diet and eliminating toxins in the child's environment. I know Dr. Rea does hyperbaric, too. Anyway, Dr. Sethi's son recovered. Dr. Rea has helped a lot of people who are environmentally sick. I wish we could afford him. He doesn't take insurance. He has written a wonderful book on how to build houses that are non-toxic. Those who don't listen to us now, will wish they had some day. Sooner or later, it will affect ALL children. Then will the world wake up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 If someone said those things to me, I wouldn't talk to them anymore. > > What do you say to someone who insists that, there is no proof or studies to show the link. that i am just a angry momo because my son has autism and looking for something to grab on to. I am not intelligent for listening to DR. who says mercury poisoning is responsible for my son's autism. DR. are just making money off me. > > fustrated mom > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I would educate them to the truth: Subject: VACCINE RESPONSE Regardless of anyone's *OPINION*, the *FACTS* are CDC has stated VACCINES CAN CAUSE AUTISM http://tinyurl.com/Vax-Autism1 - and have paid out BILLIONS OF DOLLARS to vaccine damaged kids and have THOUSANDS on the lawsuit list yet to be heard. THIMEROSAL (MERCURY) containing vaccines are well over TOXIC WASTE LEVEL (250x's) http://tinyurl.com/VaxToxicWaste and expired or spilled vaccines must be handled by HAZMAT AS TOXIC WASTE. How can you justify direct injection of TOXIC WASTE into our babies (and adults) and say it is healthy? BTW, it's not just mercury - lots more toxic ingredients and foreign DNA. Could vaccines explain the high SIDS rate and USA ranking #46 in the world in INFANT MORTALITY RATE? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate Doesn't this shock you? The only studies that have ever said vaccines are safe are those conducted by the Vaccine Manufacturers - EXACTLY what we saw with CIGARETTES and LUNG CANCER. ALL INDEPENDENT STUDIES WITHOUT TIES TO BIG PHARMA SHOW VACCINES ARE NOT EFFECTIVE at best and EXTREMELY DANGEROUS at worst. Please note any scientific studies that show long term safety of multiple injections of TOXINS and VIRUSES in vaccines. (HINT - there are NONE) Read KENNEDY's (or watch YouTube video) DEADLY IMMUNITY - http://tinyurl.com/VaxDeadlyImmunity Why did scientists acknowledge the link and cover it up by adding in tons of kids under 2 yrs where they could not be Dx'd with Autism to make the statistical correlation disappear? Why do the surveyed unvaccinated population have ZERO autism (actually 1/10,000, where it was before vaccinations increased) Why won't our Gov't do a study of vaccinated vs unvaccinated like Generation Rescue did? www.GenerationRescue.com Read the analysis of the Canadian and Denmark studies that show EXCLUSION OF AUTISM SPECTRUM DISORDER (ASD) and inclusion of NON-ASD groups to make statistical correlations disappear. (But it WAS originally there) Plus how the DENMARK SCIENTIST THORSEN FORGED documents and STOLE 2 MILLION DOLLARS from CDC and disappeared? Yet we still base our vaccine policy on his input? Years ago you would have been taught in medical school to prescribe HEROIN, CIGARETTES, ALCOHOL and THALIDOMIDE - but today we call that insane. When the real evidence is reviewed, you will find the same pattern with vaccines. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin www.tobacco.org/resources/history/Tobacco_History20-2.html > > > > What do you say to someone who insists that, there is no proof or studies to show the link. that i am just a angry momo because my son has autism and looking for something to grab on to. I am not intelligent for listening to DR. who says mercury poisoning is responsible for my son's autism. DR. are just making money off me. > > > > fustrated mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Hi TJ, How many rounds have you done? How many rounds before you saw the first big wow. We just finished our first with DMPS and ALA. 99-299 to go. Kay > > I would have to tell you that my children are recovering from Autism using the > AC protocol of chelation. > Chelation is the process of removing heavy metals like mercury and lead from the > body and brain. > TJ > > > > > ________________________________ > From: tastitales <tastitales@...> > > Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 12:33:28 PM > Subject: [ ] immunizations/mercury theory is debunked > > > What do you say to someone who insists that, there is no proof or studies to > show the link. that i am just a angry momo because my son has autism and looking > for something to grab on to. I am not intelligent for listening to DR. who says > mercury poisoning is responsible for my son's autism. DR. are just making money > off me. > > fustrated mom > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 We have done about 70 rounds. Was about six months until we really knew we were gonna recover the boys. The progress is subtle. TJ [ ] immunizations/mercury theory is debunked > > > What do you say to someone who insists that, there is no proof or studies to > show the link. that i am just a angry momo because my son has autism and looking > for something to grab on to. I am not intelligent for listening to DR. who says > mercury poisoning is responsible for my son's autism. DR. are just making money > off me. > > fustrated mom > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 There is lorry loads of evidence that mercury and autism are linked/ the same largely From: tj_werth@... Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 23:37:52 -0700 Subject: RE: [ ] Re: immunizations/mercury theory is debunked We have done about 70 rounds. Was about six months until we really knew we were gonna recover the boys. The progress is subtle. TJ [ ] immunizations/mercury theory is debunked > > > What do you say to someone who insists that, there is no proof or studies to > show the link. that i am just a angry momo because my son has autism and looking > for something to grab on to. I am not intelligent for listening to DR. who says > mercury poisoning is responsible for my son's autism. DR. are just making money > off me. > > fustrated mom > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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