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So true! I have a friend that makes jams and she used to use

Splenda, then switched to zylitol. It tastes soooooo good. I tried

some peach jam she made and thought it would ok because I was able to

eat a fresh peach with no problem. Well, it tasted wonderful but I

got terrible oral thrush and weeping sores on my face, etc, etc.

Guess the fruit sugars must change when cooked and unfortunately I

won't be able to eat anything like that for some time :) But you

can't tell the difference between the taste of sugar or xylitol.

Gail

>

> Well I know with Xylitol. That you can use it like sugar in

recipes and you

> cant tell the difference I have a friend that made apple pie with

it and it

> was amazing you could not tell the difference.

>

> Tena

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> From: candidiasis

[mailto:candidiasis ] On

> Behalf Of colbyjack98

> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:48 AM

> candidiasis

> Subject: Xylitol

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> With all the talk about xylitol, I was wondering if anyone had some

> recipes with it's use that you would like to share.

>

> I personally love it, but for me, over consumption can bring on the

> gas and has a laxative effect. How much do you use in baking as

> compared to regular sugar? I know of Stevia cookbooks, but not any

> Xylitol.

>

> Thanks :)

> Tara

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Gail

How long have you had candida? I would love to talk to someone with candida

so we can trade info..r u taking oil of oregano?

Tena

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From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Gail

Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:07 PM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Xylitol

So true! I have a friend that makes jams and she used to use

Splenda, then switched to zylitol. It tastes soooooo good. I tried

some peach jam she made and thought it would ok because I was able to

eat a fresh peach with no problem. Well, it tasted wonderful but I

got terrible oral thrush and weeping sores on my face, etc, etc.

Guess the fruit sugars must change when cooked and unfortunately I

won't be able to eat anything like that for some time :) But you

can't tell the difference between the taste of sugar or xylitol.

Gail

>

> Well I know with Xylitol. That you can use it like sugar in

recipes and you

> cant tell the difference I have a friend that made apple pie with

it and it

> was amazing you could not tell the difference.

>

> Tena

>

> .

>

> _____

>

> From: candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40>

[mailto:candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40> ]

On

> Behalf Of colbyjack98

> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:48 AM

> candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40>

> Subject: Xylitol

>

>

>

> With all the talk about xylitol, I was wondering if anyone had some

> recipes with it's use that you would like to share.

>

> I personally love it, but for me, over consumption can bring on the

> gas and has a laxative effect. How much do you use in baking as

> compared to regular sugar? I know of Stevia cookbooks, but not any

> Xylitol.

>

> Thanks :)

> Tara

>

>

>

>

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I only became aware that I had it about 6 months ago. I don't know

how long I may have had it and not been aware of it. In fact I never

knew anything about it until I got oral thrush and started doing

research on that. I had a lot digestive problems for the past 15

years so I'm thinking maybe that's when it started. Who knows. I got

pretty sick last year so it was probably rearing it's ugly head then,

but I didn't realize it :).

I have only been taking the oil of oregano extract. Since I have

oral thrush I put drops under my tongue when it's bad. I was taking

grapefruit seed extract. I don't know if it was doing anything or

not though. I recently stopped taking that and started taking a

supplement with caprylic acid, pau d'arco and some other stuff in

it. Don't know if it will help, but I keep trying.

I don't go to doctors and can't afford to go to a naturopath - plus

there's only one in my area.

I stick to the candida diet and take all the recommended supplements

and recently started taking the undenatured whey and a few other

supplements that have been recommended on this forum.

Gail

>

> Gail

>

> How long have you had candida? I would love to talk to someone with

candida

> so we can trade info..r u taking oil of oregano?

>

> Tena

>

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Gail

You need to find some probiotics to put the right fungus back into your

system if you don't it will keep recurring and oil of oregano will help but

you will get use to it there are some other things to try besides that. Have

you lost any weight with it? If you have that is a sign that you are killing

it. I can give you what I am taking and you can go to any health food store

and you can try it. Let me know.Tena

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From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Gail

Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 8:57 PM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Xylitol

I only became aware that I had it about 6 months ago. I don't know

how long I may have had it and not been aware of it. In fact I never

knew anything about it until I got oral thrush and started doing

research on that. I had a lot digestive problems for the past 15

years so I'm thinking maybe that's when it started. Who knows. I got

pretty sick last year so it was probably rearing it's ugly head then,

but I didn't realize it :).

I have only been taking the oil of oregano extract. Since I have

oral thrush I put drops under my tongue when it's bad. I was taking

grapefruit seed extract. I don't know if it was doing anything or

not though. I recently stopped taking that and started taking a

supplement with caprylic acid, pau d'arco and some other stuff in

it. Don't know if it will help, but I keep trying.

I don't go to doctors and can't afford to go to a naturopath - plus

there's only one in my area.

I stick to the candida diet and take all the recommended supplements

and recently started taking the undenatured whey and a few other

supplements that have been recommended on this forum.

Gail

>

> Gail

>

> How long have you had candida? I would love to talk to someone with

candida

> so we can trade info..r u taking oil of oregano?

>

> Tena

>

>

>

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I have been taking probiotics along with anti-fungals and many other

supplements. I lost 25 lbs as I've talked about in other posts. I

still don't think I am digesting properly and have been taking

digestive enzymes but don't see any improvement. And also have been

constipated the past 5 mo and no matter what I try can't " go " without

taking something to help.

Anyway, thanks for your advice.

Gail

>

> Gail

>

> You need to find some probiotics to put the right fungus back into

your

> system if you don't it will keep recurring and oil of oregano will

help but

> you will get use to it there are some other things to try besides

that. Have

> you lost any weight with it? If you have that is a sign that you

are killing

> it. I can give you what I am taking and you can go to any health

food store

> and you can try it. Let me know.Tena

>

>

>

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Hi Gail

Have you looked into the possibility that something you are eating is

causing your constipation? My husband and I have IBS and if we eat a

food that triggers it, we are constipated for a couple of days.

Keen

Re: Xylitol

I have been taking probiotics along with anti-fungals and many other

supplements. I lost 25 lbs as I've talked about in other posts. I

still don't think I am digesting properly and have been taking

digestive enzymes but don't see any improvement. And also have been

constipated the past 5 mo and no matter what I try can't " go " without

taking something to help.

Anyway, thanks for your advice.

Gail

>

> Gail

>

> You need to find some probiotics to put the right fungus back into

your

> system if you don't it will keep recurring and oil of oregano will

help but

> you will get use to it there are some other things to try besides

that. Have

> you lost any weight with it? If you have that is a sign that you

are killing

> it. I can give you what I am taking and you can go to any health

food store

> and you can try it. Let me know.Tena

>

>

>

> _____

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If I am, I don't know what it could be. I only eat meat, fowl, fish,

vegetables (only Candida recommended ones), eggs, butter, etc.

Doesn't seem to be any difference from day to day no matter what I

have eaten. Nothing moves :)

Thanks.

Gail

>

> Hi Gail

>

> Have you looked into the possibility that something you are eating

is

> causing your constipation? My husband and I have IBS and if we eat

a

> food that triggers it, we are constipated for a couple of days.

>

> Keen

>

>

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Do you eat a lot of animal fat? That does it for us in the worst

possible way. Try cutting out the eggs, butter and animal fat for a

week (eat only chicken and turkey breast and ostrich). Try adding a

small amount of brown rice to your diet instead of the animal fat.

Hopefully that will help.

Keen

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If I am, I don't know what it could be. I only eat meat, fowl, fish,

vegetables (only Candida recommended ones), eggs, butter, etc.

Doesn't seem to be any difference from day to day no matter what I

have eaten. Nothing moves :)

Thanks.

Gail

>

> Hi Gail

>

> Have you looked into the possibility that something you are eating

is

> causing your constipation? My husband and I have IBS and if we eat

a

> food that triggers it, we are constipated for a couple of days.

>

> Keen

>

>

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I'd starve to death :). I eat a fair amount of animal fat though not

as much as when I first started the diet. I try to alternate and

maybe one day red meats, next chicken, then fish, etc. I tried a

small amt of brown rice once and it made me bloated so I don't want

to try that again. I'll cut back a bit on the red meat but don't

think I can cut it out totally. I probably eat eggs every other day

or two cause I started getting sick of them. But I can't cut out the

butter. It's one of the few things that makes my bland veggies and

some other foods " tasty. " Plus I think the eggs and butter are

supposed to be really good for you aren't they?

I appreciate your suggestions.

Gail

>

> Do you eat a lot of animal fat? That does it for us in the worst

> possible way. Try cutting out the eggs, butter and animal fat for a

> week (eat only chicken and turkey breast and ostrich). Try adding a

> small amount of brown rice to your diet instead of the animal fat.

>

> Hopefully that will help.

>

> Keen

>

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  • 2 weeks later...

Sorry for the delay in replying, I was on leave until today. Happy New

Year to all.

Animal fats may be what is causing your severe constipation. Yes, eggs

and butter are good for you, but if you are not digesting them, then

that may be the cause of your problem.

I know what it is like, we first could eat nearly nothing (broccoli and

brown rice until we couldn't face either), but we have managed to

increase what we eat now.

You should try cutting out certain foods and see if you can trace the

reason for your constipation.

Good luck.

Keen

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I'd starve to death :). I eat a fair amount of animal fat though not

as much as when I first started the diet. I try to alternate and

maybe one day red meats, next chicken, then fish, etc. I tried a

small amt of brown rice once and it made me bloated so I don't want

to try that again. I'll cut back a bit on the red meat but don't

think I can cut it out totally. I probably eat eggs every other day

or two cause I started getting sick of them. But I can't cut out the

butter. It's one of the few things that makes my bland veggies and

some other foods " tasty. " Plus I think the eggs and butter are

supposed to be really good for you aren't they?

I appreciate your suggestions.

Gail

>

> Do you eat a lot of animal fat? That does it for us in the worst

> possible way. Try cutting out the eggs, butter and animal fat for a

> week (eat only chicken and turkey breast and ostrich). Try adding a

> small amount of brown rice to your diet instead of the animal fat.

>

> Hopefully that will help.

>

> Keen

>

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>

> My NMD is suggesting that I use XYLITOL sweetener. She says it's very

> safe. Bee, what is your research say?

> just me,laura

>

Hi ,

Stevia is the only recommended " safe " sweetener for Candida sufferers.

And even then, its use should be limited. Do a site search on Bee's

website for further info. www.healingnaturallybybee.com

hope that helps,

jackie

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, If you check this location on the www.dadamo.com site

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm

you'll see that xylitol has not been tested and added to the list of

sweeteners. I've known non-secretors who used it and wouldn't use

anything else. I have been told it is a cavity fighter, and if so it

would be good for your teeth too.

>

> Hi ..

>

> I'm new to this group..

> I am a type O

> I have just had my saliva test done in a lab here in Oz and I am a

> non secretor ..

>

> I have Have " Eat Right " and also " Live Right " so I have pretty much

> all the information I need except that I can't seem to find any

> reference to xylitol ..whether it is a neutral or an avoid

>

> FYI..xylitol is a natural sweetener made from birch bark which

tastes

> just like sugar.

>

> I would welcome any information on this ..

> Many thanks

> dacey

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Thank you

That was about the only thing I couldn't find ..

The " Live Right " book I have has so much more information in it than

the " Eat Right " book .. especially secretor and non secretor food

lists.. a lot of thing have chnged in the second book...

Dacey

> >

> > Hi ..

> >

> > I'm new to this group..

> > I am a type O

> > I have just had my saliva test done in a lab here in Oz and I am a

> > non secretor ..

> >

> > I have Have " Eat Right " and also " Live Right " so I have pretty much

> > all the information I need except that I can't seem to find any

> > reference to xylitol ..whether it is a neutral or an avoid

> >

> > FYI..xylitol is a natural sweetener made from birch bark which

> tastes

> > just like sugar.

> >

> > I would welcome any information on this ..

> > Many thanks

> > dacey

> >

>

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Thank You

I guess I will continue to use it until I know otherwise..

Does anyone have the " LiveRight " book...?

I'm surprised by some of the changes in it from the Eat right

book..which is what most people are going by I would think..

For instance in EatRight ..avocado was an AVOID for Type O (Listed as

a vegetable)

In Live Right it's a beneficial for non secretors (me)

??...I supose that it's later research ??

Dacey

> >

> > Hi ..

> >

> > I'm new to this group..

> > I am a type O

> > I have just had my saliva test done in a lab here in Oz and I am a

> > non secretor ..

> >

> > I have Have " Eat Right " and also " Live Right " so I have pretty much

> > all the information I need except that I can't seem to find any

> > reference to xylitol ..whether it is a neutral or an avoid

> >

> > FYI..xylitol is a natural sweetener made from birch bark which

> tastes

> > just like sugar.

> >

> > I would welcome any information on this ..

> > Many thanks

> > dacey

> >

>

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Da

Dacey,

Yes, it was later research. The latest available is posted on the

website, so we can keep up with the changes. There is a lot more

information in Live Right, and more and different information in the

Encyclopedia, which was published still later.

>

>

> Thank You

> I guess I will continue to use it until I know otherwise..

> Does anyone have the " LiveRight " book...?

> I'm surprised by some of the changes in it from the Eat right

> book..which is what most people are going by I would think..

> For instance in EatRight ..avocado was an AVOID for Type O (Listed

as

> a vegetable)

> In Live Right it's a beneficial for non secretors (me)

> ??...I supose that it's later research ??

> Dacey

>

>

>

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Thank you

I'm pleased to see that my local library has all the D'Damo

books so I have reserved them.. including the encyclopedia ...

I've managed to cut out everything on the avoid list ...even my opne

peice of GF bread a day ... sigh ..except for two weak teas and two

weak coffees a day..both with two teaspoons of cream (which I am

hoping is close to butter and better than milk)...and 70g of plain

yoghurt in the am... baby steps with these..

Cheers

>

>

> Da

>

>

> Dacey,

> Yes, it was later research. The latest available is posted on the

> website, so we can keep up with the changes. There is a lot more

> information in Live Right, and more and different information in the

> Encyclopedia, which was published still later.

>

>

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lescase@... wrote:

> Hi Guys,, is xylitol a better option than stevia ? I guess if it's good

> for the teeth, that'd be a yes, yes?

What's " good " about it (for the teeth)?

The only think I know of that is good for teeth, is Nori (or other good

iodine source.)

NAmaste,

IRene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

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Irene,,, that's interesting ... how does iodine/nori help teeth... I mean,

does it help strengthen them, or what ? I never would have made that

association!!!

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On Jun 26, 2007, at 9:25 AM, lescase@... wrote:

> Irene,,, that's interesting ... how does iodine/nori help

> teeth... I mean,

> does it help strengthen them, or what ? I never would have made

> that

> association!!!

>

It's the real way teeth get stronger as opposed to the mistake

conventional medicine makes by using toxic fluoride.

Iodine and fluoride are related due to their position on the periodic

table of elements - which means the body handles them similarly due

ro similar chemical structure and reactivity. However it does not

mean that either one is appropriate.

The problem is that we tend to be short of iodine - especially in

USA where the soil is old and leached out - and we eat too little

fish - and the body " sees " fluoride as similar (in structure and

reactions) to iodine and will absorb it instead IF there is no

iodine. Sadly it will not get rid of the fluoride once you supply

iodine. It's like a one-way swap valve.

It's a oneway thing where fluoride can replace iodine but not the

other way round - the fluoride is actually toxic - it's due to iodine

similarity that fluoride has a strengthening effect on teeth - but

it also mottles them etc and is badly toxic to the thyroid as

fluoride there does not function as iodine does.

So the correct mineral the body is designed to use - for both

teeth and thyroid (and other functions) is iodine.

Just as with heavy metal toxicity - so also fluoride can not be

replaced by iodine once absorbed - only fluoride being heavier, can

replace iodine.

So it pays to give ourselves the iodine we need and of course to

avoid fluoride toxicity) - and I like nori as a source of iodine

without sodium excess - and of course it is good to avoid toxic

heavier elements whether fluoride or heavy metals.

Namaste,

Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

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It has been 'proven' to deter the build up of plaque on the teeth. I have

not read the research, but that is what I have been led to believe.

This is one of many sites talking about the benefits of xylitol for your

teeth. Tom's of Maine even puts it in their toothpaste.

http://www.xylitol.org/

Kate

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I've heard about this before and I completly agree. One thing you

need to keep in mind, though, is not to over do it with the iodine

because too much has been found to cause acne. The ODA (Optimal Daily

Allowance) for both men and women is 150 mcg.

> It's the real way teeth get stronger as opposed to the mistake

> conventional medicine makes by using toxic fluoride.

> Iodine and fluoride are related due to their position on the

periodic

> table of elements - which means the body handles them similarly

due

> ro similar chemical structure and reactivity. However it does not

> mean that either one is appropriate.

> The problem is that we tend to be short of iodine - especially

in

> USA where the soil is old and leached out - and we eat too little

> fish - and the body " sees " fluoride as similar (in structure and

> reactions) to iodine and will absorb it instead IF there is no

> iodine. Sadly it will not get rid of the fluoride once you supply

> iodine. It's like a one-way swap valve.

> It's a oneway thing where fluoride can replace iodine but not the

> other way round - the fluoride is actually toxic - it's due to

iodine

> similarity that fluoride has a strengthening effect on teeth -

but

> it also mottles them etc and is badly toxic to the thyroid as

> fluoride there does not function as iodine does.

> So the correct mineral the body is designed to use - for

both

> teeth and thyroid (and other functions) is iodine.

> Just as with heavy metal toxicity - so also fluoride can not be

> replaced by iodine once absorbed - only fluoride being heavier,

can

> replace iodine.

> So it pays to give ourselves the iodine we need and of course to

> avoid fluoride toxicity) - and I like nori as a source of iodine

> without sodium excess - and of course it is good to avoid toxic

> heavier elements whether fluoride or heavy metals.

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary

Homeopath.)

> " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

>

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FYI..

Aspartame is a poison for EVERYONE.hundreds of thousands of " google "

references to its dangerous/poisonous qualities.

It was first developed as an ant killer.

Arghhh.

~Merrill~

" Saving one animal may not change the world...

But surely, for that one animal,

Life will change forever... "

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There is nothing wrong with baby steps. That is one of the ways some of

us have made the changes. Some still have some steps to go periodically

after we have slipped up a bit. Just keep taking those steps and keep

up with the Dadamo site list to stay up to date.

>

> I've managed to cut out everything on the avoid list ...even my opne

> peice of GF bread a day ... sigh ..except for two weak teas and two

> weak coffees a day..both with two teaspoons of cream (which I am

> hoping is close to butter and better than milk)...and 70g of plain

> yoghurt in the am... baby steps with these..

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Thanks for the encouragement

I'm at the stage where I could possibly cut out the tea coffee and

cream .. I have managed without cheese and yoghurt for a few days with

no headaches...

I am having peppermint..rosehip..chamomile.. dandelion and ginger teas

and dandelion coffee .. which I am enjoying

I don't eat beef or pork for religious reasons but manage with other

proteins and lots of beneficial veggies

Dacey

> >

> > I've managed to cut out everything on the avoid list ...even my opne

> > peice of GF bread a day ... sigh ..except for two weak teas and two

> > weak coffees a day..both with two teaspoons of cream (which I am

> > hoping is close to butter and better than milk)...and 70g of plain

> > yoghurt in the am... baby steps with these..

>

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