Re: singing and jargoning all day (verbal stimming)

[Guest guest]

Lucky you that she does all this!!!! I mean, even if it is not functional YET,

she can talk!!!!! She can sing!!! My humble advice is: try hard as you can to

bring her to a functional level.....push her to answer your questions, interrupt

her echolalia (it sounds like she has it), bring her world upside down so she

has to use that language to communicate and demand instead of just letting her

talk around without purpose...use stories and cards to make her communication

have a purpose... It is all about language being functional....being accurate.

Blessings

Isa

Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

[ ] singing and jargoning all day (verbal stimming)

If my 4 y/o ASD daughter could, she would hum, sing, and babble all day (with

breaks to sleep-- sometimes -- and ask for snacks)

How do you keep your child from doing this? We realized that because she

doesn't physically stim (often) we hardly pay attention to this particular

version. Her teacher brought it up to me the other day.

My thought is to try to divert her with other things that force interaction with

me and others. Sitting with her writing, reading, computer etc.

Any other thoughts or concrete suggestions? I still feel new at all of this.

sigh!

[Guest guest]

Our son had echolalia and scripted when he was young too. His speech therapist

said that these were attempts for him to process language. Even though he sang

songs and recited verses and he could even read (hyperlexia), he didn't

understand any of it. He couldn't even follow simple commands. It wasn't until

we started him in private speech therapy using E.A.S.E. and other sensory helps

was he able to start understanding. The good news is now after years of therapy

and nearly 300 rounds of chelation, he communicates very well and is at grade

level in school. He is now 14. One therapist told me, " never give up on him " .

Those words have kept me going.

Best wishes,

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

That sounds like my son.

He scripts a lot.....recites books he reads verbatim all the time. He used

to sing through the day, but has reduced a lot since we started the diet.

Could you tell me more about the EASE program and the sensory things you did

to help him?

Thanks,

Arthi

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 9:32 PM, davelin1976 <davelin1976@...> wrote:

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> Our son had echolalia and scripted when he was young too. His speech

> therapist said that these were attempts for him to process language. Even

> though he sang songs and recited verses and he could even read (hyperlexia),

> he didn't understand any of it. He couldn't even follow simple commands. It

> wasn't until we started him in private speech therapy using E.A.S.E. and

> other sensory helps was he able to start understanding. The good news is now

> after years of therapy and nearly 300 rounds of chelation, he communicates

> very well and is at grade level in school. He is now 14. One therapist told

> me, " never give up on him " . Those words have kept me going.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

For any of your kids with echolalia. My son only had echolalia, except " do that

juice " .We learned from his ABA therapist & told me it would go away,  I didn't

think it was possible. Had us ask

 What do you want? He'd repeat & We'd prompt " I want ... He started telling us

what he wanted after awhile.  When you get some success don't give her what she

wants unless she tries. Don't' punish, with saying NO when she's wrong, just

keep prompting. Error-less works better,  they only see the rewarding in it.

He's repeat It's time for your bath, I'd prompt It's time for my bath.   Keep

going with everything. Stick with the prompts 24/7 or close to it.  Then he just

was on the diet & working on yeast. I'm sure others have more w

chelation results. By 5 it was almost gone. He's a chatterbox now, but still

has some delayed echolalia sometimes. We'll tell him to do something, he'll ask

You want me to do? We ignored & it got better. GABA was another answer. It

helped him stop oover-talkingabout his preferred topic.

Later try  programs that go into feature function & class. He therapist said we

had to do it so he'd understand how to talk about things. Like A flower has

petals, a stem, leaves.  A car has wheels, a hood, etc.

He still doesn't know what to talk about with a friend, but he didn't have

enough opportunities. Try to get your kids on play dates with anyone their age

who's willing. If they have siblings their age I'm sure it's easier. Sensory

integration helps too. I like listening therapy. Our OT told me it stimulates

the vagus nerve.

Another thing to try is a  picture dictionary. Flash cards are fine too.  Ask

What's that? Prompt it's a... 

Hang In There,

Kathy

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 <isaguzmandiaz2@...>wrote:

 Re: [ ] singing and jargoning all day (verbal stimming)

Lucky you that she does all this!!!! I mean, even if it is not functional YET,

she can talk!!!!! She can sing!!! My humble advice is: try hard as you can to

bring her to a functional level.....push her to answer your questions, interrupt

her echolalia (it sounds like she has it), bring her world upside down so she

has to use that language to communicate and demand instead of just letting her

talk around without purpose...use stories and cards to make her communication

have a purpose... It is all about language being functional....being accurate.

Blessings

Isa

Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

[ ] singing and jargoning all day (verbal stimming)

If my 4 y/o ASD daughter could, she would hum, sing, and babble all day (with

breaks to sleep-- sometimes -- and ask for snacks)

How do you keep your child from doing this?  We realized that because she

doesn't physically stim (often) we hardly pay attention to this particular

version.  Her teacher brought it up to me the other day. 

My thought is to try to divert her with other things that force interaction with

me and others.  Sitting with her writing, reading, computer etc.

Any other thoughts or concrete suggestions?  I still feel new at all of this. 

sigh!

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[Guest guest]

I forgot. Use, Who wants juice - I want juice.

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<calicocat477@...>wrote:

 

For any of your kids with echolalia. My son only had echolalia, except " do that

juice " .We learned from his ABA therapist & told me it would go away,  I didn't

think it was possible. Had us ask

 What do you want? He'd repeat & We'd prompt " I want ... He started telling us

what he wanted after awhile.  When you get some success don't give her what she

wants unless she tries. Don't' punish, with saying NO when she's wrong, just

keep prompting. Error-less works better,  they only see the rewarding in it.

He's repeat It's time for your bath, I'd prompt It's time for my bath.   Keep

going with everything. Stick with the prompts 24/7 or close to it.  Then he

just was on the diet & working on yeast. I'm sure others have more w

chelation results. By 5 it was almost gone. He's a chatterbox now, but still

has some delayed echolalia sometimes. We'll tell him to do something, he'll ask

You want me to do? We ignored & it got better. GABA was another answer. It

helped him stop oover-talkingabout his preferred topic.

Later try  programs that go into feature function & class. He therapist said we

had to do it so he'd understand how to talk about things. Like A flower has

petals, a stem, leaves.  A car has wheels, a hood, etc.

He still doesn't know what to talk about with a friend, but he didn't have

enough opportunities. Try to get your kids on play dates with anyone their age

who's willing. If they have siblings their age I'm sure it's easier. Sensory

integration helps too. I like listening therapy. Our OT told me it stimulates

the vagus nerve.

Another thing to try is a  picture dictionary. Flash cards are fine too.  Ask

What's that? Prompt it's a... 

Hang In There,

Kathy

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 <isaguzmandiaz2. mx>wrote:

 Re: [ ] singing and jargoning all day (verbal stimming)

Lucky you that she does all this!!!! I mean, even if it is not functional YET,

she can talk!!!!! She can sing!!! My humble advice is: try hard as you can to

bring her to a functional level.....push her to answer your questions, interrupt

her echolalia (it sounds like she has it), bring her world upside down so she

has to use that language to communicate and demand instead of just letting her

talk around without purpose...use stories and cards to make her communication

have a purpose... It is all about language being functional.. ..being accurate.

Blessings

Isa

Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

[ ] singing and jargoning all day (verbal stimming)

If my 4 y/o ASD daughter could, she would hum, sing, and babble all day (with

breaks to sleep-- sometimes -- and ask for snacks)

How do you keep your child from doing this?  We realized that because she

doesn't physically stim (often) we hardly pay attention to this particular

version.  Her teacher brought it up to me the other day. 

My thought is to try to divert her with other things that force interaction with

me and others.  Sitting with her writing, reading, computer etc.

Any other thoughts or concrete suggestions?  I still feel new at all of this. 

sigh!

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[Guest guest]

I'm sorry to go off topic. My son's 11, still too thin, needs more bio-med.He's

a viral kid, who still has a lot of stimming, some rocking & his pupils are

larger.  And needs chelation. We're doing what we can to learn about it.    But

he wouldn't be where he is w/o ABA. We're spoiled here.  A parent sued, won & we

got ABA in our schools in St. Louis.

We still had to fight hard to get enough it in the IEP. If your state has a

parent as Teachers program  that offers a First Steps program  I believe you can

still get it up to 3. There's so many kids & don't know the what's going on with

that process now. They want them in ABA classes , but if you can prove

regression after starting there may be a chance to get it in your home. Ask if

your department of mental health has a 0-3 program. Some states have insurance

bills passed. 

http://www.autismweb.com/aba.htm  Try a local FEAT group in the US.

Blessings, Kathy

[Guest guest]

Errorless prompting works really well with us too.

S.

[ ] singing and jargoning all day (verbal stimming)

If my 4 y/o ASD daughter could, she would hum, sing, and babble all day (with

breaks to sleep-- sometimes -- and ask for snacks)

How do you keep your child from doing this?  We realized that because she

doesn't physically stim (often) we hardly pay attention to this particular

version.  Her teacher brought it up to me the other day. 

My thought is to try to divert her with other things that force interaction

with me and others.  Sitting with her writing, reading, computer etc.

Any other thoughts or concrete suggestions?  I still feel new at all of this. 

sigh!

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[Guest guest]

Thanks everyone!

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> I'm sorry to go off topic. My son's 11, still too thin, needs more

bio-med.He's a viral kid, who still has a lot of stimming, some rocking & his

pupils are larger.  And needs chelation. We're doing what we can to learn about

it.    But he wouldn't be where he is w/o ABA. We're spoiled here.  A parent

sued, won & we got ABA in our schools in St. Louis.

>

> We still had to fight hard to get enough it in the IEP. If your state has a

parent as Teachers program  that offers a First Steps program  I believe you can

still get it up to 3. There's so many kids & don't know the what's going on with

that process now. They want them in ABA classes , but if you can prove

regression after starting there may be a chance to get it in your home. Ask if

your department of mental health has a 0-3 program. Some states have insurance

bills passed. 

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> http://www.autismweb.com/aba.htm  Try a local FEAT group in the US.

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> Blessings, Kathy

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[Guest guest]

> If my 4 y/o ASD daughter could, she would hum, sing, and babble all day (with

breaks to sleep-- sometimes -- and ask for snacks)

At my house, humming meant yeast overgrowth.

Dana