B Complex

[Guest guest]

Hi Arnold,

I also would appreciate a copy of your paper on B vitamins. I am trying to

collect all alternative treatments for Seizures for future reference.

Thanks,

Tracey

[Guest guest]

Mike wrote:

>

> Hi Bee or others,

>

> I have rosacea and have been doing the candida diet for about a

month. I started taking a B Complex and my face is flaring up and

breaking out. My rosacea has gotten worse.

> The B complex has Niacin. I'm a member of a rosacea support group and

> the members say that niacin is a big no no for those with rosacea.

> Sould I continue to take the B Complex believing it is a healing

> reaction or should I back off the B Complex for now? Any input would

> be greatly appreciated.

==>The flush you get from niacin only last 1/2 hr. or so, and if after

the flush is over you find your rosacea is worse that is due to healing

reactions. My friend here in Calgary cured her rosacea on this

program, along with other skin and body problems.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Mike wrote:

I have rosacea and have been doing the candida diet for about a month.

I started taking a B Complex and my face is flaring up and breaking

out. My rosacea has gotten worse.

The B complex has Niacin. I'm a member of a rosacea support group and

the members say that niacin is a big no no for those with rosacea.

Sould I continue to take the B Complex believing it is a healing

reaction or should I back off the B Complex for now? Any input would

be greatly appreciated.

-----

Hi Mike

I started taking Niacin separately to my B Complex last week. I started off at

25mg (no flush) and then increased to 50mg (slight flush). I usually take my

supplements just after I have drunk my egg drink in the morning. The other

morning I was in a hurry and took my supps on an empty stomach. The 50mg of

Niacin on an empty stomach gave me this almighty flush, in fact worse than any

of my previous cea flushing episodes. It was kind of scary as it felt like I

had lost control of my body for a short time. It passed but I have decided to

stick with 25mg in one hit for now and most definitely on a full stomach. Maybe

over time I will be able to increase the dose to 50mg at a time.

Of interest though is that normally when I flush, it is sure to be followed by

p & p. This has not happened! So I am thinking that the Niacin is helping to get

some of the heat out of my face. Well, that's kind of how it feels anyway.

You may well find that your cea will flare up and simmer down on this diet.

What I have found is that as each flare up happens, it is less aggressive. I

started slowly on this diet in April and this is the first month that I haven't

had a flare up and no p & p at all. It appears to coincide with my time of month

but this month it didn't flare up. Whoo hoo! So for me, persistence is the key

to the long term benefit of being cea free!

Hope this helps.

Jen

[Guest guest]

> I have rosacea and have been doing the candida diet for about a

month.

> I started taking a B Complex and my face is flaring up and

breaking

> out. My rosacea has gotten worse.

>

> The B complex has Niacin. I'm a member of a rosacea support group

and

> the members say that niacin is a big no no for those with rosacea.

> Sould I continue to take the B Complex believing it is a healing

> reaction or should I back off the B Complex for now? Any input

would

> be greatly appreciated.

> -----

> Hi Mike

>

> I started taking Niacin separately to my B Complex last week. I

started off at 25mg (no flush) and then increased to 50mg (slight

flush). I usually take my supplements just after I have drunk my egg

drink in the morning. The other morning I was in a hurry and took my

supps on an empty stomach. The 50mg of Niacin on an empty stomach

gave me this almighty flush, in fact worse than any of my previous

cea flushing episodes. It was kind of scary as it felt like I

had lost control of my body for a short time. It passed but I have

decided to stick with 25mg in one hit for now and most definitely on

a full stomach. Maybe over time I will be able to increase the dose

to 50mg at a time.

>

> Of interest though is that normally when I flush, it is sure to be

followed by p & p. This has not happened! So I am thinking that the

Niacin is helping to get some of the heat out of my face. Well,

that's kind of how it feels anyway.

>

> You may well find that your cea will flare up and simmer down

on this diet. What I have found is that as each flare up happens, it

is less aggressive. I started slowly on this diet in April and this

is the first month that I haven't had a flare up and no p & p at all.

It appears to coincide with my time of month but this month it

didn't flare up. Whoo hoo! So for me, persistence is the key to the

long term benefit of being cea free!

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Jen

>

>

Thanks for the insights Jen and Bee!!! Do you have a B complex you

recommend to buy?

>

[Guest guest]

Mike wrote:

Do you have a B complex you recommend to buy?

-----

I buy Nature's Own Maxi B 100, which has pretty much the same ingredients as

what Bee recommends. I only take one a day, rather than taking 50mgs morning and

night. It doesn't contain natural Niacin as I can't find one in Australia that

has Niacin in it, only the synthetic versions. That's why I take Niacin

separately.

Hope this helps.

Jen

[Guest guest]

> Do you have a B complex you recommend to buy?

> -----

> I buy Nature's Own Maxi B 100, which has pretty much the same

ingredients as what Bee recommends. I only take one a day, rather than

taking 50mgs morning and night. It doesn't contain natural Niacin as I

can't find one in Australia that has Niacin in it, only the synthetic

versions. That's why I take Niacin separately.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Jen

>

Thanks Jen...you have been a big help!!!

>

[Guest guest]

Mike wrote:

> Thanks for the insights Jen and Bee!!! Do you have a B complex you

> recommend to buy?

==>I buy Hi Potency B Compound by Natural Factors (50 mg complex).

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> what b complex is everyone taking?? thankyou

==>Lilly you can get Natural Factors or take Nutritional Yeast Flakes;

do an archive search to find out brands that are okay. I wrote to

Frontier and they said their Nutritional Yeast Flakes do not contain

wheat. Take 1 tbl twice a day mixed in water - I use warm water.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Lilly,

Here is a good balanced B vitamin from Country Life.

http://www.vitacost.com/CountryLifeActionB50Caps

You will have to supplement your niacin though with something that is not

synthetic. Here is what I use.

http://www.vitacost.com/NaturesWayNiacin

Shirley

>From: " lilly26health " <lilly26health@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: [ ] b complex

>Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 23:13:48 -0000

>

>what b complex is everyone taking?? thankyou Lilly xoxo

[Guest guest]

>

> Its almost impossible for me to find a B complex due to my needing

to avoid more than 2mg of B6. I'm either going to have to buy all the

B's individually or get a complex custom made. Just wondering if

anyone here knows any companies that will make custom formulas like

this??

>

==> Andy, why do you need to avoid B6???

Bee

[Guest guest]

> >

> ==> Andy, why do you need to avoid B6???

>

Bee, I have an inherited peripheral neuropathy known as Charcot Marie

Tooth. B6 can cause neuropathy problems in high doses so its

recommended to stick to the RDA of 2mg in supplements.

Andy

[Guest guest]

>

> > >

> > ==> Andy, why do you need to avoid B6???

> >

> Bee, I have an inherited peripheral neuropathy known as Charcot Marie

> Tooth. B6 can cause neuropathy problems in high doses so its

> recommended to stick to the RDA of 2mg in supplements.

==>Anyone who takes megadoses of B6 without taking the other B

vitamins will get symptoms described in literature about Charcot Marie

Tooth. The megadoses described are over 150 mgs per day. I'll be

writing to an orthomolecular physician this weekend as ask his advice

about this situation. If I don't get back to you write another

message on Saturday.

Bee

[Guest guest]

> >

> > > >

> > > ==> Andy, why do you need to avoid B6???

> > >

> > Bee, I have an inherited peripheral neuropathy known as Charcot

Marie

> > Tooth. B6 can cause neuropathy problems in high doses so its

> > recommended to stick to the RDA of 2mg in supplements.

>

> ==>Anyone who takes megadoses of B6 without taking the other B

> vitamins will get symptoms described in literature about Charcot

Marie

> Tooth. The megadoses described are over 150 mgs per day. I'll be

> writing to an orthomolecular physician this weekend as ask his

advice

> about this situation. If I don't get back to you write another

> message on Saturday.

>

> Bee

>

Hi Bee, were you able to contact that orthomolecular physician to

find out any more info on the B6.

Thanks!

Andy

[Guest guest]

> Hi Bee, were you able to contact that orthomolecular physician to

> find out any more info on the B6.

==>Thank you for reminding me. I just sent him an email. I'll get

back to you with his reply.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Andy wrote:

> Hi Bee, were you able to contact that orthomolecular physician to

> find out any more info on the B6.

==>Hi Andy. I received this reply from the orthomolecular physician:

" Peripheral neuropathy can indeed be worsened or triggered by many

substances. This includes B6. In general it is safe for most people

with CMT to take up to 50 mg per day max. I would take that in

divided dosages and watch for signs of reaction. If the patient has

cramps often and is very sensitive to sunlight (burns easily) you

need to look at Magnesium intake and status, this works in

conjunction with B6 and lowers the requirement of B6. It is always

better to take the entire B-complex, needless to say. "

==>Therefore, you can safely take 50 mg vitamin B complex per day

total, but split it up between at least 2 doses @ 25 mg each or

less. Also ensure you are taking calcium and magnesium per

supplements recommended, but get the doctor to test your magnesium

levels (after taking it for 5 days) so you can increase or lower it

as required.

==>Do you have to be careful about B6 in foods, or is it only

supplements that cause a problem?

Bee

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bee! I have never paid attention to B6 in foods. I think the

problem is mainly from mega doses. I tend to be hypersensitive to

many many potentially helpful things so its always a challange to

find things that I can take. I'll look for a B25 or B50 that I can

cut in half.

Andy

> > Hi Bee, were you able to contact that orthomolecular physician to

> > find out any more info on the B6.

>

> ==>Hi Andy. I received this reply from the orthomolecular

physician:

>

> " Peripheral neuropathy can indeed be worsened or triggered by many

> substances. This includes B6. In general it is safe for most people

> with CMT to take up to 50 mg per day max. I would take that in

> divided dosages and watch for signs of reaction. If the patient has

> cramps often and is very sensitive to sunlight (burns easily) you

> need to look at Magnesium intake and status, this works in

> conjunction with B6 and lowers the requirement of B6. It is always

> better to take the entire B-complex, needless to say. "

>

> ==>Therefore, you can safely take 50 mg vitamin B complex per day

> total, but split it up between at least 2 doses @ 25 mg each or

> less. Also ensure you are taking calcium and magnesium per

> supplements recommended, but get the doctor to test your magnesium

> levels (after taking it for 5 days) so you can increase or lower it

> as required.

>

> ==>Do you have to be careful about B6 in foods, or is it only

> supplements that cause a problem?

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

> Dear Bee,

>

> The liver ( the one to eat, not mine ) has all the B complex?,

and can cause stomach pain too ?

==>No, liver would not cause stomach pain if you eat 2 tbls of

sauerkraut or kimchi, plenty of saturated fat, and you take HCl

tablets.

>It is truth that liver is the part of the animal that keeps all the

toxins, so when a person eat it is eating the toxins too?

==>Toxins are processed by the liver via ducts and blood vessels, but

the liver doesn't store them.

>And liver used is hard on the liver ( to digest or process).

==>Meats, eggs, and good fats are the very easiest foods for the body

to digest!

>I was wondering how much liver a person has to eat a day in order to

full all the B requirements plus the protein requeriments. ( So that

person doesn't have to eat another meat )

==>Other meats are also important in the diet, but to fulfill vitamin

B requirements eat 6 ounces of liver twice a week with plenty of fats

like coconut oil or butter.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Yes! all the time.

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@...: mbarnes55@...: Fri, 20 Jun

2008 16:20:40 -0400Subject: [ ] B complex

Just wondering if anyone had really yellow colored urine after taking B complex?

[Guest guest]

ok thank you

I keep seeing all those things happening and it freaks me out ,,,, never

knew candida could cause us so many problems as what I've been having the past

year or so ...

good luck

Maddy

Edie Carabez <EDIEPIE@...> wrote:

Yes! all the time.

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@...: mbarnes55@...: Fri, 20 Jun

2008 16:20:40 -0400Subject: [ ] B complex

Just wondering if anyone had really yellow colored urine after taking B complex?

[Guest guest]

>

> Just wondering if anyone had really yellow colored urine after taking

B complex?

==>Yes, it makes urine a flourescent yellow color, but it doesn't mean

there is any problem.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> ok thank you

>

> I keep seeing all those things happening and it freaks me

out ,,,, never knew candida could cause us so many problems as what

I've been having the past year or so ...

==>Maddy, it is nothing to be concerned about. B complex turns urine a

flourescent yellow, but that is normal. Also some foods change the

color of urine and/or stools.

The best, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

thank you Bee God Bless

Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

>

> ok thank you

>

> I keep seeing all those things happening and it freaks me

out ,,,, never knew candida could cause us so many problems as what

I've been having the past year or so ...

==>Maddy, it is nothing to be concerned about. B complex turns urine a

flourescent yellow, but that is normal. Also some foods change the

color of urine and/or stools.

The best, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Just wondering if anyone had really yellow colored urine after

taking B complex?

---YES! Every day ..morning and night.

Amy

[Guest guest]

Most places let you return for a different one. I bought some vitamins once,

and brought them back because they kept giving me headaches. They let me

return them for another kind.

Good luck,

-----Original Message-----

Hi

I bought accidentally B Complex which contains wheat/gluten.

Can I use it until I purchase another wheat/gluten free?

Or better not?

Thank You

Seth

Croatia

[Guest guest]

It is amazing how some vitamins make you sick and others don't. I found

a brand called Freeda .

I love their magnesium and calcium.

http://www.freedavitamins.com/

Phyllis

>

> Most places let you return for a different one. I bought some vitamins

once,

> and brought them back because they kept giving me headaches. They let

me

> return them for another kind.

> Good luck,