TAURINE

[Guest guest]

having a bad reaction to SAMe is not uncommon, it makes me feel lousy too and

gives me killer headaches. It makes sense that I do have the methylation blocks

that Rich has been talking about, not tolerating SAMe is just another symptom of

it for me.

Marcia

Re: Taurine

Hi, Barbara.

Here's what Jon Pangborn says on page 235 of the autism book:

" Adverse responses to appropriate amounts of taurine are evidently

quite uncommon. During the more than 20 years that I have suggested

taurine use, reports to me of problems have numbered less than a

dozen (out of thousands who have tried taurine as a nutritional

supplement). If the electrolyte levels are already imbalanced in a

certain way and are not corrected by homeostasis, then taurine, in

significant amounts, could worsen the imbalance. Intolerance can

occur in hyperkalemia conditions (excessive blood potassium),

's disease, and insulin deficiency if gram quantities of

taurine are used. This is because it mediates the flux of

electrolyte minerals across cell membranes. As with all

supplements, start at a low dose (100 or 250 mg/day depending on

body weight or age). We are cautioned by clinical researchers not

to use more than about 2000 mg/day (2 grams per day), and large

doses can produce effects that are opposite to what would be

expected. "

Barbara, you might consider trying Recuperat-ion, the mixture of

salts formulated by Alfred Blasi, if you aren't already doing so. I

suspect that this protocol helps to restore the proper balance of

electrolytes inside the cells. It is available from

http://www.recuperat-ion.com/eng/alvio/productos/index.htm

It is helping quite a few people, judging from reports to the

Alfredblasiprotocol group.

Rich

>

> Hi Rich,

>

> I tried 500 mg of taurine for 3 days in a row. Each night I woke

up with severe cramps in the calves of my legs and my sciatic nerve

began to flare. After 3 nights of this, intensifying each time, I

stopped and it took another few days to calm these down.

>

> Other people talk about taurine having a calming effect. Any

insights on what is happening here with me?

>

> Thanks

> Barbara

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

mjh,

Challenging yes - you said it! It strikes me strange that I was able to take

glucosamine sulphate for joint repair for a few years with no noticeable

negative reactions. NAC has had some side effects but the benefits seem to

outweigh them right now.

So glad yours seemed to self correct. If only we could figure out how and why

eh?

Barbara

From: foxhillers@...

Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 8:30 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Taurine

Barbara

I had extreme sensitivity to sulfa drugs, sulfites and a few sulphury other

things. BUT when I started taking SAM-e, then MSM and a few other sulfur

supplements, my sensitivity to sulfa and sulfites decreased. I was lucky

that

somehow that pathway got fixed.

THese bodies we are in can certainly be a challenge.

mjh

In a message dated 1/3/2006 12:01:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,

brfifield@... writes:

Hi mjh,

I'm glad to hear that you are having positive benefits with SAMe.

Thanks for bringing the 'other ingredients' to my attention. Nothing in this

listing jumps out at me as possibly causing an adverse reaction although I

don't know exactly what a couple of them are. I try to get most supplements

with as few other ingredients as possible but this was the only brand of SAMe

available locally.

There is the possibility that my body has this sulphur methylation problem

going on as it seems I have problems with many of the sulphur supplements. On

the other hand, I also have problems with some of the supplements that are

said to support it. Just trying to learn as much as I can and figure it all

out. Not easy.

Thanks for your post.

Barbara

mjh

" The Basil Book "

http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

[Guest guest]

I'm opposite, I can tolerate sulfa drugs (quite well actually), but I have not

been able to tolerate SAMe, MSM, methionine, arginine, whey proteins,or any

sulfer supplement (and I'm low on most of them according to my amino testing).

Marcia

Re: Re: Taurine

Barbara

I had extreme sensitivity to sulfa drugs, sulfites and a few sulphury other

things. BUT when I started taking SAM-e, then MSM and a few other sulfur

supplements, my sensitivity to sulfa and sulfites decreased. I was lucky

that

somehow that pathway got fixed.

THese bodies we are in can certainly be a challenge.

mjh

In a message dated 1/3/2006 12:01:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,

brfifield@... writes:

Hi mjh,

I'm glad to hear that you are having positive benefits with SAMe.

Thanks for bringing the 'other ingredients' to my attention. Nothing in this

listing jumps out at me as possibly causing an adverse reaction although I

don't know exactly what a couple of them are. I try to get most supplements

with as few other ingredients as possible but this was the only brand of SAMe

available locally.

There is the possibility that my body has this sulphur methylation problem

going on as it seems I have problems with many of the sulphur supplements. On

the other hand, I also have problems with some of the supplements that are

said to support it. Just trying to learn as much as I can and figure it all

out. Not easy.

Thanks for your post.

Barbara

mjh

" The Basil Book "

http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

[Guest guest]

Thanks Rich for this and your earlier post.

Is this the case if taurine measures fairly " normal " in both plasma

and urine? or is it the case where taurine levels must be taken in

context with other AAs, and/or the test methodology/accuracy is

questionable....

Rgds,

Lance

> >

> > Hi Rich,

> >

> > I tried 500 mg of taurine for 3 days in a row. Each night I woke

> up with severe cramps in the calves of my legs and my sciatic nerve

> began to flare. After 3 nights of this, intensifying each time, I

> stopped and it took another few days to calm these down.

> >

> > Other people talk about taurine having a calming effect. Any

> insights on what is happening here with me?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Barbara

>

[Guest guest]

Nil

Both my son and I have taken l-taurine for some years. Him to support brain

function and me to support cardiac function.

mjh

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(mailto:yildiz22@...?Subject=Re: Taurine) _yildiz2113 _

(yildiz2113)

Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:30 pm (PST)

Hi all,

Any experiences with taurine? Just tried it. Seems to give good amount of

relaxation effect.Would like to know more about it.

thanks

Nil

[Guest guest]

Thank you mjh

it also helped me very much with my bile and constipation problems.was surprised

with that.

best wishes.

Nil

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[Guest guest]

Hi Nil and mjh,

Are you taking taurine in conjunction with B12, and what doses are you

both using?

BW

Rosie

Thank you mjh

it also helped me very much with my bile and constipation problems.was

surprised with that.

best wishes.

Nil

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[Guest guest]

Hi Rosie,

I am taking b12 at 1 mg dosage daily. helps me with my neuropathy problems.

My folic acid was high so I am taking only 100 mcg of folic acid at this

point. I have to take a new test.Started Taurine 2 days ago at this point I

am taking 2 times 500 mg's. Will also try 3 times 500 mg.

Best wishes.

Nil

RE: Re: Taurine

>

> Hi Nil and mjh,

>

> Are you taking taurine in conjunction with B12, and what doses are you

> both using?

>

> BW

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Nil,

I assume you aren't getting any side effects from these things?

Rosie

Hi Rosie,

I am taking b12 at 1 mg dosage daily. helps me with my neuropathy

problems.

My folic acid was high so I am taking only 100 mcg of folic acid at this

point. I have to take a new test.Started Taurine 2 days ago at this

point I

am taking 2 times 500 mg's. Will also try 3 times 500 mg.

Best wishes.

Nil

RE: Re: Taurine

>

> Hi Nil and mjh,

>

> Are you taking taurine in conjunction with B12, and what doses are you

> both using?

>

> BW

>

[Guest guest]

No side effects that i notice at this point.

BW

Nil

RE: Re: Taurine

> Thanks Nil,

>

> I assume you aren't getting any side effects from these things?

>

> Rosie

> Hi Rosie,

>

> I am taking b12 at 1 mg dosage daily. helps me with my neuropathy

> problems.

> My folic acid was high so I am taking only 100 mcg of folic acid at this

>

> point. I have to take a new test.Started Taurine 2 days ago at this

> point I

> am taking 2 times 500 mg's. Will also try 3 times 500 mg.

> Best wishes.

> Nil

[Guest guest]

haven't noticed. I would say i sleep better.

Arias wrote:

>

> does Taurine give night mares?

>

>

[Guest guest]

hummm...it is really helping with her seizures but giving her night

mares. she never sleeps through the night. she wakes if she hears a

pin drop!

On Dec 29, 2008, at 6:47 PM, Waldner wrote:

> haven't noticed. I would say i sleep better.

>

> Arias wrote:

> >

> > does Taurine give night mares?

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

My daughter's food sensitivity test shows high sensitivity to soy,

corn, wheat, white flour, tomatoes (unfortunately that means ketchup

too), and dairy. I notice she seems to have more off times near

accidental gluten consumptions but it could be anything.

>

> oh my gosh. my dd is doing so great. i have starting taurine. it is

> the best she has EVER been. i have tried several meds. may i ask if

> anyone reacts to certain foods? tomatoes...milk...etc..???

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Dr. Balch in his book Prescription for Nutritional Healing, copyright

1990 recommends a dosage of L-taurine of 500 mg taken 3 times a day. That is

probably for an adult weighing about 175 pounds, a 9 year old child would take

proportionally less. Weight is a good indicator compare to an adult.

Arnold

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[Guest guest]

what kind of food test did she have?

On Jan 4, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Dawn wrote:

> My daughter's food sensitivity test shows high sensitivity to soy,

> corn, wheat, white flour, tomatoes (unfortunately that means ketchup

> too), and dairy. I notice she seems to have more off times near

> accidental gluten consumptions but it could be anything.

>

>

> >

> > oh my gosh. my dd is doing so great. i have starting taurine. it is

> > the best she has EVER been. i have tried several meds. may i ask if

> > anyone reacts to certain foods? tomatoes...milk...etc..???

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Our naturopath gave her a urine test. He gave me the saliva test.

When her pediatrician did a blood panel it showed absolutely

nothing. I asked the naturopath why since the test that he did

showed so many things. He said the blood tests will never show

sensitivities. And this test ranges it from no reaction, mild,

medium and high.

> > >

> > > oh my gosh. my dd is doing so great. i have starting taurine.

it is

> > > the best she has EVER been. i have tried several meds. may i

ask if

> > > anyone reacts to certain foods? tomatoes...milk...etc..???

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

what is the urine test called? how old is your child?

On Jan 4, 2009, at 9:44 PM, Dawn wrote:

> Our naturopath gave her a urine test. He gave me the saliva test.

> When her pediatrician did a blood panel it showed absolutely

> nothing. I asked the naturopath why since the test that he did

> showed so many things. He said the blood tests will never show

> sensitivities. And this test ranges it from no reaction, mild,

> medium and high.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > oh my gosh. my dd is doing so great. i have starting taurine.

> it is

> > > > the best she has EVER been. i have tried several meds. may i

> ask if

> > > > anyone reacts to certain foods? tomatoes...milk...etc..???

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Meant to add that taurine is mildly sedative, so that probably explains the

tiredness. Good thing to take before bed, possibly.

Hans

....took my first 5g or 6g immediately.  I spent the rest of the day being very

tired...

[Guest guest]

That IS a high dose nne. and I took 2 g yesterday,

one mid-morning the other mid-afternoon. Both weed for England. lost 2

lbs overnight but he doesn't have a problem with water retention, he started to

take Taurine because of the other benefits. My ankles are beautiful this

morning, and I lost 8 oz overnight - this could be what I have been

waiting for. However, it is too early in the day and I am about to have my 1g as

my morning dose now. I find it very difficult to know how to measure 1g though

as different elements weight differently. I guess I should have purchased the

little plastic scoop for Taurine.

Luv - Sheila

That's a high dose! For cardiovascular

treatment about 5g total a day is suggested, but otherwise 1 to 3.

Hans

....took my first 5g or 6g ...

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[Guest guest]

Where are y'all buying this in powder form?

luv Dawnx

[Guest guest]

Thanks Hans and Sheila for your responses, I am a twit of the highest order

sometimes, I took approx 5ml which when I weighed it was a mere 2g and not the

5g that I said I had taken LOL.

I didn't appear to lose any weight and have not been peeing excessively as far

as I am aware. I always suffer badly with swollen feet after a flight and when

at the destination for some reason but rarely during normal life at home. They

go down overnight but are up again by midday, this year was a lot better and I

put that down to armour.

I do have cardiovascular disease Hans that is why I was so very interested on

reading what Sheila wrote and then did a days research before buying it. My

husband has trouble sleeping sometimes, due in part to his age and still working

shifts I would assume but he also has symptoms of hypot which I am managing to

keep at bay with a myriad of supplements recommended by Dr P and every little

helps. From a much better memory nowadays, I know from experience that insomnia

is also one of the symptoms of hypot.

He slept quite well in the 5.5 hours he had so it seems to be working as a nice

natural and healthy sedative for us. I shall take mine in 3 doses in future to

try and avoid the sleeping in the day making the evening one 3g and the others

1g each.

Thanks for your help.

Luv nne

[Guest guest]

From the website that Sheila recommended, highly impressed with their service

for a first time purchase. Now if Sheila ordered from them she can make money

for TPA by using her MP Referrer code - So did you get a code Sheila, if not

make sure that you get one (it is on the invoice that comes with it) this could

be another little way of building up the £5000.

www.myprotein.co.uk

Luv nne

>

> Where are y'all buying this in powder form?

>

> luv Dawnx

>

[Guest guest]

H nne - according to the details that I have read, Taurine

has no side effects - though there is a recommendation that athletes take it at

night. Both and I were absolutely fine and felt pretty good throughout

the day yesterday and I have just taken half my dollop today - 1 gram and will

take another 1 gram this afternoon, and then I will start to increase it. I

think you have taken a very large dose though taking 5/6gs when you got it and

another 5 g at night when you went to bed.

luv - Sheila

Sheila, you mentioned that you were starting on Taurine for the

water retention problems that hypot causes you and I decided that I would give

it a try also. I got it yesterday and took my first 5g or 6g

immediately. I spent the rest of the day being very tired, fell asleep at

1.30 until 1.50 and again at 7.15pm until about 7.40 - I then had a minor

problem getting off to sleep at bed time although I had taken another 5g just

before I retired for the night, but fell asleep at around midnight until

5.50am. I have woken feeling quite refreshed though.

My question is, has anyone else tried this and does this stop

happening after a while or should I just take it at night from now on.

Luv

nne

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Hi Sheila,

A teaspoon is about 4.5 - 5.0g

check it on your mail scales (PO if need be)

Bob

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> ...took my first 5g or 6g ...

>

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Thanks Bob

Luv - Sheila

Hi Sheila,

A teaspoon is about 4.5 - 5.0g

check it on your mail scales (PO if need be)

Bob