Guest guest Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 I don't know the specific answer to your question, but if your child tolerates raw fruits/juices, I would advice you to get him started. A good juicer is needed, I give my child raw pineapple/papaya juice (one at a time) and I have felt it helps him w good digestion. You can also marinate thick meat in pineapple juice, makes it tender, delicious and easy to digest. Small glass of juice in the am seems to do the task for the day here. Isa Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel [ ] How to increase Enzymes made by the body? How can we get the body to increase enzymes rather than just buying and taking them? What helps the body to make enzymes? My boy takes about 30/day and doubling that would likely make him feel even better. They are expensive! Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 We cant use papaya here because of its oxalate content, but mangoes contain an enzyme very similar to papain, so we juice alot and marinate with that as well as pineapple. Karla > > I don't know the specific answer to your question, but if your child tolerates raw fruits/juices, I would advice you to get him started. A good juicer is needed, I give my child raw pineapple/papaya juice (one at a time) and I have felt it helps him w good digestion. You can also marinate thick meat in pineapple juice, makes it tender, delicious and easy to digest. Small glass of juice in the am seems to do the task for the day here. > Isa > > > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > [ ] How to increase Enzymes made by the body? > > How can we get the body to increase enzymes rather than just buying and taking them? What helps the body to make enzymes? > > My boy takes about 30/day and doubling that would likely make him feel even better. They are expensive! > Deb > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 I have heard that by taking amino acids you can help your body produce and use more of its own enzymes. Dr. Brice Vickery has dont a lot of research on this... youtube his videos and read about it on his website... very interesting stuff. I use to take enzymes, now I take amino acids and make sure to eat 50g of protien per day. Seems to help a lot! ~Christie > > > > I don't know the specific answer to your question, but if your child tolerates raw fruits/juices, I would advice you to get him started. A good juicer is needed, I give my child raw pineapple/papaya juice (one at a time) and I have felt it helps him w good digestion. You can also marinate thick meat in pineapple juice, makes it tender, delicious and easy to digest. Small glass of juice in the am seems to do the task for the day here. > > Isa > > > > > > > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > [ ] How to increase Enzymes made by the body? > > > > How can we get the body to increase enzymes rather than just buying and taking them? What helps the body to make enzymes? > > > > My boy takes about 30/day and doubling that would likely make him feel even better. They are expensive! > > Deb > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Remove the mercury. Which you are working on, until you get a lot of it, he won't have his own enzymes that work. I'm not sure why he needs so many enzymes. Most kids don't take 30 or more caps of digestive enzymes. It seems like an awful lot. Jan > > How can we get the body to increase enzymes rather than just buying and taking them? What helps the body to make enzymes? > > My boy takes about 30/day and doubling that would likely make him feel even better. They are expensive! > Deb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Yes I agree it's a lot. I give the following each time: 2 Digest Basic 2 Candidase 2 Virastop 1 Lypo Gold I could not find Candex locally. Any suggestions? Deb > > > > How can we get the body to increase enzymes rather than just buying and taking them? What helps the body to make enzymes? > > > > My boy takes about 30/day and doubling that would likely make him feel even better. They are expensive! > > Deb > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Are there amino acid powders that are GFCF and rice free? I haven't found any but would like to. I give protein with each meal. Deb > > > > > > I don't know the specific answer to your question, but if your child tolerates raw fruits/juices, I would advice you to get him started. A good juicer is needed, I give my child raw pineapple/papaya juice (one at a time) and I have felt it helps him w good digestion. You can also marinate thick meat in pineapple juice, makes it tender, delicious and easy to digest. Small glass of juice in the am seems to do the task for the day here. > > > Isa > > > > > > > > > > > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > > > [ ] How to increase Enzymes made by the body? > > > > > > How can we get the body to increase enzymes rather than just buying and taking them? What helps the body to make enzymes? > > > > > > My boy takes about 30/day and doubling that would likely make him feel even better. They are expensive! > > > Deb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 > > How can we get the body to increase enzymes rather than just buying and taking them? What helps the body to make enzymes? > > My boy takes about 30/day and doubling that would likely make him feel even better. They are expensive! > Deb > My oldest son and I have a genetic disorder. About 85% of people with must take enzymes with every meal. We were both on prescription digestive enzymes at one time. I began taking glyconutrients at some point. I think he took them occasionally. Then we began supplementing with sea salt. After some conversation, he realized he was at a point where he only needed digestive enzymes on days when he felt especially bad or whenever he ate (yeast-leavened) pizza. We talked about the yeast issue. He swore off pizza -- a staple in our limited diet at the time, so it was something of a crisis for me to find some replacement. About two months later, I began taking coconut oil and that is when I stopped needing digestive enzymes. Glyconutrients are also pricey. When I could no longer afford them but still needed them, I read the ingredient list and bought aloe vera (one of the ingredients). It did about half for me what the glyconutrients did, which helped but wasn't quite enough to keep me out of crisis. I found a supplement that contained arabano galactan (another ingredient) and that did about 80% for me what glyconutrients had done. I notice one of the items you listed is Vira Stop. You can also treat virii with things like vitamin A, vitamin E, lysine, OLE and/or working on PH balance. When I no longer needed digestive enzymes for digesting my food but still had a few bottles of prescription enzymes, I took them away from meals to help treat for virii. I think the gut issues typical of my genetic disorder is one of the things that causes people like me to be so vulnerable to infection. Enzymes not only digest food, they can kill invading organisms. And I have come to believe that healthy mucus is a critical part of the immune system, one that is apparently compromised with my genetic disorder. Sea salt, glyconutrients, and coconut oil all do good things for the gut. I found that taking them together (within about the same hour) was more effective than taking them apart and I found that if I increased the dose of all three together, it made a big difference but increasing only one or two of them didn't have anywhere near as much impact. After I had healed enough, I got in the habit of eating a healthy carb (like potatoes or organic noodles) daily, cooked with sea salt and a fat that I tolerate well (like butter or sometimes bacon drippings). If I keep this up, I am usually okay. If I skip it, or if I am under more than normal physical stress, I start being more symptomatic for my genetic disorder. I will note that coconut oil seems to move metals at a very low level, so that may be a problem with chelating. I can no longer consume coconut oil on a regular basis. I usually still have some in the house but it doesn't get used as much as it used to be. Good luck with this. Michele http://www.healthgazelle.com http://www.kidslikemine.com http://www.solanorail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 I left out this important detail: After he gave up all yeast, he stopped needing digestive enzymes. It was a couple of months later, after I finally added coconut oil to my supplements, that I was able to do the same. Sorry 'bout that. Michele http://www.healthgazelle.com http://www.kidslikemine.com http://www.solanorail.com > > > > How can we get the body to increase enzymes rather than just buying and taking them? What helps the body to make enzymes? > > > > My boy takes about 30/day and doubling that would likely make him feel even better. They are expensive! > > Deb > > > > My oldest son and I have a genetic disorder. About 85% of people with must take enzymes with every meal. We were both on prescription digestive enzymes at one time. I began taking glyconutrients at some point. I think he took them occasionally. Then we began supplementing with sea salt. After some conversation, he realized he was at a point where he only needed digestive enzymes on days when he felt especially bad or whenever he ate (yeast-leavened) pizza. We talked about the yeast issue. He swore off pizza -- a staple in our limited diet at the time, so it was something of a crisis for me to find some replacement. About two months later, I began taking coconut oil and that is when I stopped needing digestive enzymes. > > Glyconutrients are also pricey. When I could no longer afford them but still needed them, I read the ingredient list and bought aloe vera (one of the ingredients). It did about half for me what the glyconutrients did, which helped but wasn't quite enough to keep me out of crisis. I found a supplement that contained arabano galactan (another ingredient) and that did about 80% for me what glyconutrients had done. > > I notice one of the items you listed is Vira Stop. You can also treat virii with things like vitamin A, vitamin E, lysine, OLE and/or working on PH balance. When I no longer needed digestive enzymes for digesting my food but still had a few bottles of prescription enzymes, I took them away from meals to help treat for virii. I think the gut issues typical of my genetic disorder is one of the things that causes people like me to be so vulnerable to infection. Enzymes not only digest food, they can kill invading organisms. And I have come to believe that healthy mucus is a critical part of the immune system, one that is apparently compromised with my genetic disorder. > > Sea salt, glyconutrients, and coconut oil all do good things for the gut. I found that taking them together (within about the same hour) was more effective than taking them apart and I found that if I increased the dose of all three together, it made a big difference but increasing only one or two of them didn't have anywhere near as much impact. After I had healed enough, I got in the habit of eating a healthy carb (like potatoes or organic noodles) daily, cooked with sea salt and a fat that I tolerate well (like butter or sometimes bacon drippings). If I keep this up, I am usually okay. If I skip it, or if I am under more than normal physical stress, I start being more symptomatic for my genetic disorder. > > I will note that coconut oil seems to move metals at a very low level, so that may be a problem with chelating. I can no longer consume coconut oil on a regular basis. I usually still have some in the house but it doesn't get used as much as it used to be. > > Good luck with this. > > Michele > http://www.healthgazelle.com > http://www.kidslikemine.com > http://www.solanorail.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 I had used the Virastop a few years ago when I was trying that protocol. Currently I've been using it with meals to digest protein -NOT realizing that I may be disturbing viruses as well. Maybe that is causing more yeast and also more issues all at the same time and confusing things. Plus I would give it between meals for rage. I'm going to remove it and see what happens. I'm a vegetarian. My boy was too, until about 2 years ago when I started him on meats. That was another reason I was thinking I needed the Virastop, because it's protease for proteins and I was worried he might need extra due to having been a vegetarian for so long. I do like coconut oil and I do like sea salt. My boy gets sea salt on his potatoes for breakfast which I cook in olive oil. I've never given him coconut oil but I might try that in the future. Thanks for your post, it really made me think about the Virastop and I think that may be exacerbating things right now. Deb > > > > How can we get the body to increase enzymes rather than just buying and taking them? What helps the body to make enzymes? > > > > My boy takes about 30/day and doubling that would likely make him feel even better. They are expensive! > > Deb > > > > My oldest son and I have a genetic disorder. About 85% of people with must take enzymes with every meal. We were both on prescription digestive enzymes at one time. I began taking glyconutrients at some point. I think he took them occasionally. Then we began supplementing with sea salt. After some conversation, he realized he was at a point where he only needed digestive enzymes on days when he felt especially bad or whenever he ate (yeast-leavened) pizza. We talked about the yeast issue. He swore off pizza -- a staple in our limited diet at the time, so it was something of a crisis for me to find some replacement. About two months later, I began taking coconut oil and that is when I stopped needing digestive enzymes. > > Glyconutrients are also pricey. When I could no longer afford them but still needed them, I read the ingredient list and bought aloe vera (one of the ingredients). It did about half for me what the glyconutrients did, which helped but wasn't quite enough to keep me out of crisis. I found a supplement that contained arabano galactan (another ingredient) and that did about 80% for me what glyconutrients had done. > > I notice one of the items you listed is Vira Stop. You can also treat virii with things like vitamin A, vitamin E, lysine, OLE and/or working on PH balance. When I no longer needed digestive enzymes for digesting my food but still had a few bottles of prescription enzymes, I took them away from meals to help treat for virii. I think the gut issues typical of my genetic disorder is one of the things that causes people like me to be so vulnerable to infection. Enzymes not only digest food, they can kill invading organisms. And I have come to believe that healthy mucus is a critical part of the immune system, one that is apparently compromised with my genetic disorder. > > Sea salt, glyconutrients, and coconut oil all do good things for the gut. I found that taking them together (within about the same hour) was more effective than taking them apart and I found that if I increased the dose of all three together, it made a big difference but increasing only one or two of them didn't have anywhere near as much impact. After I had healed enough, I got in the habit of eating a healthy carb (like potatoes or organic noodles) daily, cooked with sea salt and a fat that I tolerate well (like butter or sometimes bacon drippings). If I keep this up, I am usually okay. If I skip it, or if I am under more than normal physical stress, I start being more symptomatic for my genetic disorder. > > I will note that coconut oil seems to move metals at a very low level, so that may be a problem with chelating. I can no longer consume coconut oil on a regular basis. I usually still have some in the house but it doesn't get used as much as it used to be. > > Good luck with this. > > Michele > http://www.healthgazelle.com > http://www.kidslikemine.com > http://www.solanorail.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Well, my boy doesn't get any yeast, but I may try him on the coconut oil in the future. He does very well with olive oil. When I tried coconut oil I loved it and then after some time it seemed to really kill something in my stomach. Maybe that was yeast? I'm not sure what it was, but it definately kicked something up and threw it for a loop. Deb > > > > > > How can we get the body to increase enzymes rather than just buying and taking them? What helps the body to make enzymes? > > > > > > My boy takes about 30/day and doubling that would likely make him feel even better. They are expensive! > > > Deb > > > > > > > My oldest son and I have a genetic disorder. About 85% of people with must take enzymes with every meal. We were both on prescription digestive enzymes at one time. I began taking glyconutrients at some point. I think he took them occasionally. Then we began supplementing with sea salt. After some conversation, he realized he was at a point where he only needed digestive enzymes on days when he felt especially bad or whenever he ate (yeast-leavened) pizza. We talked about the yeast issue. He swore off pizza -- a staple in our limited diet at the time, so it was something of a crisis for me to find some replacement. About two months later, I began taking coconut oil and that is when I stopped needing digestive enzymes. > > > > Glyconutrients are also pricey. When I could no longer afford them but still needed them, I read the ingredient list and bought aloe vera (one of the ingredients). It did about half for me what the glyconutrients did, which helped but wasn't quite enough to keep me out of crisis. I found a supplement that contained arabano galactan (another ingredient) and that did about 80% for me what glyconutrients had done. > > > > I notice one of the items you listed is Vira Stop. You can also treat virii with things like vitamin A, vitamin E, lysine, OLE and/or working on PH balance. When I no longer needed digestive enzymes for digesting my food but still had a few bottles of prescription enzymes, I took them away from meals to help treat for virii. I think the gut issues typical of my genetic disorder is one of the things that causes people like me to be so vulnerable to infection. Enzymes not only digest food, they can kill invading organisms. And I have come to believe that healthy mucus is a critical part of the immune system, one that is apparently compromised with my genetic disorder. > > > > Sea salt, glyconutrients, and coconut oil all do good things for the gut. I found that taking them together (within about the same hour) was more effective than taking them apart and I found that if I increased the dose of all three together, it made a big difference but increasing only one or two of them didn't have anywhere near as much impact. After I had healed enough, I got in the habit of eating a healthy carb (like potatoes or organic noodles) daily, cooked with sea salt and a fat that I tolerate well (like butter or sometimes bacon drippings). If I keep this up, I am usually okay. If I skip it, or if I am under more than normal physical stress, I start being more symptomatic for my genetic disorder. > > > > I will note that coconut oil seems to move metals at a very low level, so that may be a problem with chelating. I can no longer consume coconut oil on a regular basis. I usually still have some in the house but it doesn't get used as much as it used to be. > > > > Good luck with this. > > > > Michele > > http://www.healthgazelle.com > > http://www.kidslikemine.com > > http://www.solanorail.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 I used to use olive oil. Then I had a short-term financial crisis and looked around for what I could make using up ingredients we had plenty of in the house, without buying too much other stuff. I had a large bottle of organic olive oil and plenty of flour. I made flat bread every day until we ran out of olive oil. In the process of eating it daily, I discovered I don't tolerate olive oil as well as I thought I did. It's okay once in a while. It is not okay for me as a daily staple. (When you are sick literally all the time, it can be quite hard to see that something is really not that great for you, especially when it is clearly better for you than many other options.) I think coconut oil, organic butter, and ghee are a lot better than olive oil. If you are GFCF, butter is out but ghee (clarified butter) likely would still be okay. We have done ghee occasionally around here. Very strong impact. I have since heard that ghee is important in Ayurvedic medicine. FWIW: I deteriorate pretty quickly when I don't get adequate amounts of good quality butter. I would suggest upping his intake of sea salt (if he is okay with it -- we always consumed as much as we craved and that was sometimes quite a lot) and then adding in aloe vera after a week or two. Give it a bit of time (a week or two at least) to see what it does and then see if you can find the right fat/oil to improve things. I found that consuming the right fats had a very strong positive health impact and consuming the wrong ones had a very strong negative impact. Maybe olive oil isn't a problem for your kid. But I would double check, just in case. Good quality salt is really critical to the ability to produce healthy mucus and the gut is lined with mucus. It is also important support for the adrenals and has a beneficial impact on PH balance. It does a lot of good things for the body. I think the lack of healthy mucus in the gut contributes to (or possibly causes) leaky gut, compromises the immune system, and significantly impacts how well the body digests food. Just my 2 cents. Good luck with this. Michele http://www.healthgazelle.com http://www.kidslikemine.com http://www.solanorail.com > > Well, my boy doesn't get any yeast, but I may try him on the coconut oil in the future. He does very well with olive oil. > > When I tried coconut oil I loved it and then after some time it seemed to really kill something in my stomach. Maybe that was yeast? I'm not sure what it was, but it definately kicked something up and threw it for a loop. > Deb > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 > How can we get the body to increase enzymes rather than just buying and taking them? What helps the body to make enzymes? I was able to remove digestive enzymes at about round 50 of ALA chelation. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 > Yes I agree it's a lot. I give the following each time: > 2 Digest Basic Round 50 of ALA chelation > 2 Candidase Chelation, anti-virals, biotin, certain other supps. This is what was required to eliminate my son's yeast control issue. > 2 Virastop High doses of vitamin A, vitamin C, vitamin D, and lysine corrected my son's immune system and eliminated the need for this enzyme. > 1 Lypo Gold My son needed mito cocktail before he tolerated fats. http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Dana, How did your son displayed his intolerance to fats? Thanks! ________________________________ From: danasview <danasview@...> Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 3:28:15 PM Subject: [ ] Re: How to increase Enzymes made by the body? Â > Yes I agree it's a lot. I give the following each time: > 2 Digest Basic Round 50 of ALA chelation > 2 Candidase Chelation, anti-virals, biotin, certain other supps. This is what was required to eliminate my son's yeast control issue. > 2 Virastop High doses of vitamin A, vitamin C, vitamin D, and lysine corrected my son's immune system and eliminated the need for this enzyme. > 1 Lypo Gold My son needed mito cocktail before he tolerated fats. http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Kirkmans has an amino support powder. Karla > > > > > > > > I don't know the specific answer to your question, but if your child tolerates raw fruits/juices, I would advice you to get him started. A good juicer is needed, I give my child raw pineapple/papaya juice (one at a time) and I have felt it helps him w good digestion. You can also marinate thick meat in pineapple juice, makes it tender, delicious and easy to digest. Small glass of juice in the am seems to do the task for the day here. > > > > Isa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > > > > > [ ] How to increase Enzymes made by the body? > > > > > > > > How can we get the body to increase enzymes rather than just buying and taking them? What helps the body to make enzymes? > > > > > > > > My boy takes about 30/day and doubling that would likely make him feel even better. They are expensive! > > > > Deb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 > Dana, > How did your son displayed his intolerance to fats? Heavy ear wax, mean and aggressive behavior. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 I agree with Michele that sea salt - and specifically chloride - is important in making hydrochloric acid (stomach acid). Zinc is also important in enzyme synthesis. Eating kimchee and other " live " fermented foods (if tolerated) can help, along with eating dense proteins before carbs. Protein needs an acidic stomach environment, but carbs require an alkaline small intestine so putting them all together makes digestion tougher. We've used Doctor's Best Digestive Enzymes as a general enzyme or Thorne Dipan- 9 which is a pancreatic enzyme and occasional Lypo Gold for fat digestion with good results. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Removing Virastop has really helped. I left the other enzymes and things are going well. I don't think we're ready to deal with viruses yet. Dana, at what point during the chelation did you start to work on viruses? And did you do first A, then C, then D then lysine? Or did you do A+C+D+lysine all at the same time? Just trying to figure out how I will approach it, and when. Deb > > How can we get the body to increase enzymes rather than just buying and taking them? What helps the body to make enzymes? > > > I was able to remove digestive enzymes at about round 50 of ALA chelation. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 > Dana, at what point during the chelation did you start to work on viruses? I waited until I was finished chelating, which I regret. I should have started earlier. >>And did you do first A, then C, then D then lysine? Or did you do A+C+D+lysine all at the same time? I did A, C, lysine, D. Doing them at the same time would have caused way too much yeast here. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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