Re: for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal..

[Guest guest]

AC protocol chelation. Both my boys were non-verbal before changing to a GFCF

diet and then AC protocol chelation.

TJ

________________________________

From: Leah Korenstein <vitaltalim18@...>

abmd ; ;

mb12 valtrex ; taca-usa

Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:33:21 PM

Subject: [ ] for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal..

 

for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal, what in your mind was the

single biggest change that made them start to speak?

anyone have any thoughts on Nutriivida?

Thanks,

Leah

[Guest guest]

>>We went GFCF, we chelated 130 rounds, my son is still non verbal but he

has improved 500%. He is being more vocal on Nutrii Veda and I

soooooooooooooo didn't want this stuff to work, its an expensive nightmare to

get it to

UK

Mandi in UK

In a message dated 02/05/2010 07:50:03 GMT Daylight Time,

AndyCutler@... writes:

The way Leah phrased the question I'd imagine she'd like to know if they

started talking after going GFCF, or not until after chelating.

[Guest guest]

The way Leah phrased the question I'd imagine she'd like to know if they started

talking after going GFCF, or not until after chelating.

Andy

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http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

>

> AC protocol chelation. Both my boys were non-verbal before changing to a GFCF

diet and then AC protocol chelation.

> TJ

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Leah Korenstein <vitaltalim18@...>

> abmd ; ;

mb12 valtrex ; taca-usa

> Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:33:21 PM

> Subject: [ ] for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal..

>

> Â

> for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal, what in your mind was the

> single biggest change that made them start to speak?

> anyone have any thoughts on Nutriivida?

> Thanks,

> Leah

>

>

[Guest guest]

my son had lost his speech so that he had one syllable " bah " for everything. 

MB12 shots were the wow...  then chelation helped him get better and better. 

we also did GFCFSoyfree (and still do this).  I'm sure it helped but it was not

the wow factor.

From: Leah Korenstein <vitaltalim18@...>

Subject: [ ] for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal..

abmd , ,

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Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 10:33 PM

 

for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal, what in your mind was

the

single biggest change that made them start to speak?

anyone have any thoughts on Nutriivida?

Thanks,

Leah

[Guest guest]

GFCF diet relieved some inflammation and immune triggering for my son. This

helped with behaviors, but not much. We had to remove other things like soy,

chocolate, yeast, sugar...the results were more behavioral than with speech.

After our first round of DMSA, my son asked the first question I ever heard,

" What is that? " So there was a bit more language but he was still considered

nonverbal by school and pretty much everyone but our family. We saw the most

progress in speech, behavior, and overall health during long breaks after

chelating for like 4-5 months at a time.

Still, none of the chelation had the speech results that Vinpocetine had when we

started that 9 months ago. Our son's conversational language took off when we

started that (along with 10000 IU Vit A and 400 IU Vit D. His response to

Vinpocetine made me think that Niacinamide would be helpful as well, and it is,

but I use it mostly when there have been immune triggers. The dose of

Vinpocetine is 5mg 3 X day.

>

> AC protocol chelation. Both my boys were non-verbal before changing to a GFCF

diet and then AC protocol chelation.

> TJ

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Leah Korenstein <vitaltalim18@...>

> abmd ; ;

mb12 valtrex ; taca-usa

> Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:33:21 PM

> Subject: [ ] for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal..

>

>  

> for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal, what in your mind was the

> single biggest change that made them start to speak?

> anyone have any thoughts on Nutriivida?

> Thanks,

> Leah

>

>

[Guest guest]

There was some speech improvement after changing the diet. We had an Igg test

which determined they were also sensitive to a few other foods besides wheat and

dairy. We eliminated these foods from their diets.

- After two weeks my older boy was able to be potty trained and answered his

first yes or no question after about three weeks.

- My younger boy started becomeing aware of the world around him. He was

basically a sack of meat you moved around before that.

After 6 months of chelation my older boy started sleeping through the night and

started having more comprehension.

After six months of chelation my younger boy started to talk. Labeling. He is

just not starting to request and the very beginings of back and forth

conversation. My younger boy was more severe.

They have both been chelating for over a year now using the AC protocol, ALA and

DMSA with all the supporting supplements. We chelate starting Friday afternoon

when they get off school and go until Monday morning before school. We use 25mg

of each and dose every three hours day and night.

We will do this until they are " all better " and then go a few more months after

that. All better means they can eat and participate in life like any other

child.

TJ

________________________________

From: andrewhallcutler <AndyCutler@...>

Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 11:46:55 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: for those of you whose kids used to be

non-verbal..

 

The way Leah phrased the question I'd imagine she'd like to know if they started

talking after going GFCF, or not until after chelating.

Andy

http://www.noamalga m.com/index. html

Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children

http://www.noamalga m.com/biological treatments. html

Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

>

> AC protocol chelation. Both my boys were non-verbal before changing to a GFCF

diet and then AC protocol chelation.

> TJ

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Leah Korenstein <vitaltalim18@ ...>

> abmdgroups (DOT) com; ; mb12 valtrex@

groups. com; taca-usa@group s.com

> Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:33:21 PM

> Subject: [ ] for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal..

>

> Â

> for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal, what in your mind was the

> single biggest change that made them start to speak?

> anyone have any thoughts on Nutriivida?

> Thanks,

> Leah

>

>

[Guest guest]

GFCF has helped my son, but we have only been CF for a month. I hear it takes 3

to 6 months to get clean of casein.

I will certainly let everyone know if several more months what the outcome is,

as we do not do all the other supplements (yet).

[Guest guest]

There was no miracle supplement or protocol that made my son just start talking,

so I can't tell you one specific thing to do for speech. What I will tell you is

that my son didn't have any words until he was 4.5 and didn't start really

speaking until right before his 5th birthday.

We have been chelating (no dietary restrictions) for about 100 rounds and

without a doubt, chelation has been the most effective protocol yielding the

best results. High dose Vit A protocol for measles gave us his first 12 words,

and Virastop protocol helped clear away alot of brain fog and helped with

cognition.

My son learned sign language before he started really speaking and I highly

recommend it. Once they learn how to communicate their wants and needs a whole

new door opens up. My son was NON-VERBAL....not kinda verbal. Never had words,

no precursors for speech...nothing. When he started speaking it was because of a

combination of all the things I've listed.

Good luck on your journey, and chelate, chelate, chelate.

Maggie

> >

> > AC protocol chelation. Both my boys were non-verbal before changing to a

GFCF diet and then AC protocol chelation.

> > TJ

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: Leah Korenstein <vitaltalim18@ ...>

> > abmdgroups (DOT) com; ; mb12 valtrex@

groups. com; taca-usa@group s.com

> > Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:33:21 PM

> > Subject: [ ] for those of you whose kids used to be

non-verbal..

> >

> > Â

> > for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal, what in your mind was the

> > single biggest change that made them start to speak?

> > anyone have any thoughts on Nutriivida?

> > Thanks,

> > Leah

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Just my two-cents, or whatever, sense? .. .

To support us all in that context, communication begets communication, (of what

It delivers? of what It is, and the bio-medical certainly seems to rank up there

on what is often needed, in that respect, let's be more than just hoping?!.) and

not so much anything else, (like a shallow language, otherwise? as with

echolalia?) that it doesn't also beget everything more meaningful, Thereof,

which I believe distills down to, trying to *understand* the other (if not

everything! one Feels like understanding.. .) as best we can... is essentially

what does the trick! (thing?!.) on what we have to do! for as much.. .

We're about that in context here (no doubt) but it's who (or what) you want to

communicate, *with,* that makes the difference, of as much? .. .

You'd want to be especially communicating with your children (if not God) for as

much.. .

My sense of It..

Glavic

It's about what you *deliver,* that makes it communication, for what

communication is, as serves, where for Understanding More?

People certainly talk a lot about the God connection.. That, *I Feel,* is how

you do It.. .

I'm off to see my kids! I can't even get my son to do a proper thumbs-up,

victory-sign, whatever, (and forget the PECS, of having gone there) so we'd

*not* be going with sign language, (or PECs) so much.. . (There being so many

*other* options, that we *actually* apply (Of making *analysis* the thing, Of

making *understanding more* for our selves (as individuals, first, of

individualizing as much as we can!) the thing, of what a *family* does.. . (Of

my kind of family.. . (of Justness, Thereof, of Feeling as Understanding

See me for that. (?!.) See me for as much.. .

Evolved version.. (For All that does?!.

> > > >

> > > > AC protocol chelation. Both my boys were non-verbal before changing to a

GFCF diet and then AC protocol chelation.

> > > > TJ

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > From: Leah Korenstein <vitaltalim18@ ...>

> > > > abmdgroups (DOT) com; ;

mb12 valtrex; taca-usa@group s.com

> > > > Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:33:21 PM

> > > > Subject: [ ] for those of you whose kids used to be

non-verbal..

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > > for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal, what in your mind was

the

> > > > single biggest change that made them start to speak?

> > > > anyone have any thoughts on Nutriivida?

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Leah

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Omega 3 fatty acids jump started language from babble to recognizeable single

words almost immediately. Used about 1.5grams/day with a 30-35lb boy. His

first words, aside from the initial words he learned and lost at 12 months, came

at about 33 months.

Olive Leaf Extract took the single words to 2-4 word combinations almost

immediately, but still just statements.

Lysine (more antirals) brought questions and conversation, but still not

'normal'. 500 mgs/day also dried up two warts on his feet within 2 weeks.

Chelation (low dose/high frequency)with DMSA/ALA, done during the OLE and Lysine

(but long after the fish oil) brought it all closer to age appropriate. We

still have delays, but things like receptive vocabulary and processing speed are

approaching normal or actually above normal. What lags is what they call

'working memory'... can't hold on to or retrieve info fast enough so he seems

like he doesn't understand (gets bogged down with trying to keep up with oral

instruction) or hear you. But he does.

GFCF diet did little for language, but a lot for lifting that 'fog' (again,

immediate).

Pam

>

> AC protocol chelation. Both my boys were non-verbal before changing to a GFCF

diet and then AC protocol chelation.

> TJ

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Leah Korenstein <vitaltalim18@...>

> abmd ; ;

mb12 valtrex ; taca-usa

> Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:33:21 PM

> Subject: [ ] for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal..

>

>  

> for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal, what in your mind was the

> single biggest change that made them start to speak?

> anyone have any thoughts on Nutriivida?

> Thanks,

> Leah

>

>

[Guest guest]

I second what Maggie says. My son had language and lost it between ages one and

18 months when we vaxed him into autism. From that time forward there was

nothing.

At age two we went casein free. It helped with eczema, with his bowels, but not

with language. When we removed gluten, which took months, he did verbalize a

little, and became calmer and more focused. When we removed soy at 2 1/2 he

made his first words again - things like animals, duck, chicken etc. His

therapists all wanted to know what I had " done " to my son. However until age 3,

we mostly got isolated words here and there. We tried all sorts of

interventions, fish oil, b12, vinpocetine etc all of these things helped for a

bit, and then waned and we were back to monosyllables, mostly a handful of

nouns.

At 3 years and 3 months, we started chelation - this is the only thing that had

a lasting effect on language. DMSA was helpful, but 3 months into chelation we

started ALA and that is when the magic happened. I will never forget our first

round with ALA - 3 mg, that's it. My son sat on my coffee table and sang the

ABC song perfectly, and said " I love mommy. " Our son is five now and at round

83. He is talking a lot - sentences etc, not all age appropriate - and not

abstract speech - he is not recovered by any means, and language is still an

area that needs lots of work - but ALA chelation is the only thing that is

bringing his language and his brain back, one painful round at a time. I only

wish I could have started earlier at age 2 when we knew what was going on but

had been scared by mainstream and other docs into believing that chelation was

" dangerous " and that metal poisoning was a figment of our imagination. At the

beginning of biomed we were told he was a " severe " case of autism. After a year

of biomed they told us he was " PDD-NOS " - with enough chelation we hope to see

him move off the spectrum one day.

No matter what anyone tells you, like Andy says ALA chelation is the only thing

that will cure you of Hg poisoning. Even if our kids can't be fully recovered

he says, they can get much much better. We are shooting for as close to 100% NT

as we can get.

As Maggie says, go forth and chelate.

Irene

> > >

> > > AC protocol chelation. Both my boys were non-verbal before changing to a

GFCF diet and then AC protocol chelation.

> > > TJ

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Leah Korenstein <vitaltalim18@ ...>

> > > abmdgroups (DOT) com; ; mb12 valtrex@

groups. com; taca-usa@group s.com

> > > Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:33:21 PM

> > > Subject: [ ] for those of you whose kids used to be

non-verbal..

> > >

> > > Â

> > > for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal, what in your mind was

the

> > > single biggest change that made them start to speak?

> > > anyone have any thoughts on Nutriivida?

> > > Thanks,

> > > Leah

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

My 11 year-old has only been speaking for about 7 years (since she was 5

years-old). Her speech delay was different than my son's, though.

My 6 year-old son speaks a lot, but his speech is like that of stroke patient;

the speech does not make any sense.

He is doing better with individual words (just like reteaching stroke patient to

talk). His apraxia is not aphasia (lack of speech), as he speaks, lots, but it

just is not intelligible. It once was intelligible, briefly. He did not babble

much as a child and he meets all the signs and symptoms, except one, of a list

of autism symptoms I found on the web. Most kids on the spectrum do not meet all

of the symptoms or even all but one, but he does.

I am just so happy that he does not line up videos/toys anymore (that *abruptly*

stopped when we abruptly stopped milk; it was simply amazing because this was

something he did everyday and all day. He used to have an obsession with srings

and ropes, but that is fading also. I do not ever see him walking on tiptoes

anymore. He comes up to me to show or point out something to me (never did that

either). He seems more interested in the environment around him instead of into

his own self (only way I know to explain it). He even told me that we needed to

replace two burned out bulbs in the dining room chandelier (that was a whammy).

The changes began within 24-48 hours and have continued to get better everyday.

Every day, I notice some weird behavior that he *does not do* anymore, or a

response to something that is more typical and normal than his old responses

(which is a good thing). ALL of his odd behavior began to change within 24-48

hours of eliminating casein. I can only hope that the behavior and the speech

continues to get better more and more every day. I have a hard time believeing

myself that the casein was causing all of these problems; to me, it is

unbelievable. If someone would have told me this before now, I would not have

believed them.

Some changes are subtle, but they are subtle enough to make a difference so much

that we notice.

My son had everything from Asthma and bilateral pulmonary infiltrates of unknown

origin to rashes on his arms and legs to GI problems and behavioral problems.

Everything I could see is gone. I am not sure about the pulmonary infiltrates,

but if I was a betting person, I would bet they are disappearing as well. (That

may be worth the radiation from the X-Ray to see.)

[Guest guest]

The nordic naturals ProEFA and Carlson's were what I first used. I just found

that was the easiest way to get the high doses in to him. I was lucky enough to

have a kid that took it right off the spoon. I know some resort to putting it

into 7-UP or Sprite.

We still call it our " talking medicine " .

If your child doesn't swallow pills, mastering that would be my strongest

advice. There just isn't a good option for getting Omega 3s at the 1+ gram

doses with the gummies or other chewables out there designed for kids.

Pam

> >

> > AC protocol chelation. Both my boys were non-verbal before changing to a

GFCF diet and then AC protocol chelation.

> > TJ

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: Leah Korenstein <vitaltalim18@ ...>

> > abmdgroups (DOT) com; ; mb12 valtrex@

groups. com; taca-usa@group s.com

> > Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:33:21 PM

> > Subject: [ ] for those of you whose kids used to be

non-verbal..

> >

> >  

> > for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal, what in your mind was the

> > single biggest change that made them start to speak?

> > anyone have any thoughts on Nutriivida?

> > Thanks,

> > Leah

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

We use Clinical Essentials Omega-3 Fish oil(Omega Fusion)--tastes like Lemon

meringue--my son loves it and getting him to take anything is a challenge!

________________________________

From: Pamela H <phaselow@...>

Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 10:55:43 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: for those of you whose kids used to be

non-verbal..

The nordic naturals ProEFA and Carlson's were what I first used. I just found

that was the easiest way to get the high doses in to him. I was lucky enough to

have a kid that took it right off the spoon. I know some resort to putting it

into 7-UP or Sprite.

We still call it our " talking medicine " .

If your child doesn't swallow pills, mastering that would be my strongest

advice. There just isn't a good option for getting Omega 3s at the 1+ gram

doses with the gummies or other chewables out there designed for kids.

Pam

> >

> > AC protocol chelation. Both my boys were non-verbal before changing to a

GFCF diet and then AC protocol chelation.

> > TJ

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: Leah Korenstein <vitaltalim18@ ...>

> > abmdgroups (DOT) com; ; mb12 valtrex@

groups. com; taca-usa@group s.com

> > Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:33:21 PM

> > Subject: [ ] for those of you whose kids used to be

non-verbal..

> >

> > ÂÂ

> > for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal, what in your mind was the

> > single biggest change that made them start to speak?

> > anyone have any thoughts on Nutriivida?

> > Thanks,

> > Leah

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon:

We put a tsp Nordic Naturals Orange Flavor in Pear Sauce for our young

son. No problem at all. Make sure you keep it in the fridge.

Hope that helps,

On May 3, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Pamela H wrote:

> The nordic naturals ProEFA and Carlson's were what I first used. I

> just found that was the easiest way to get the high doses in to

> him. I was lucky enough to have a kid that took it right off the

> spoon. I know some resort to putting it into 7-UP or Sprite.

>

> We still call it our " talking medicine " .

>

> If your child doesn't swallow pills, mastering that would be my

> strongest advice. There just isn't a good option for getting Omega

> 3s at the 1+ gram doses with the gummies or other chewables out

> there designed for kids.

>

> Pam

>

>

>

>

>>

>> what brand of omega did you use? we are trying to get nn 3-6-9

>> into my son but he refuses every method.

>>

>> sharon

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

thanks to all , i will try the orange flavor, maybe that will work

________________________________

From: Darlow <ad@...>

Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 11:14:51 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: for those of you whose kids used to be

non-verbal..

 

Hi Sharon:

We put a tsp Nordic Naturals Orange Flavor in Pear Sauce for our young

son. No problem at all. Make sure you keep it in the fridge.

Hope that helps,

On May 3, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Pamela H wrote:

> The nordic naturals ProEFA and Carlson's were what I first used. I

> just found that was the easiest way to get the high doses in to

> him. I was lucky enough to have a kid that took it right off the

> spoon. I know some resort to putting it into 7-UP or Sprite.

>

> We still call it our " talking medicine " .

>

> If your child doesn't swallow pills, mastering that would be my

> strongest advice. There just isn't a good option for getting Omega

> 3s at the 1+ gram doses with the gummies or other chewables out

> there designed for kids.

>

> Pam

>

>

>

>

>>

>> what brand of omega did you use? we are trying to get nn 3-6-9

>> into my son but he refuses every method.

>>

>> sharon

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

My son is 12 now. He started speaking at 3. If I had to rank what made him speak

1) GF/CF diet

2) DMG

3) Folinic acid B12

4) Nothing would have been maintained without chelation. Like Dana I did it

myself without DAN.

5) on going probiotics/yeast killers.

>

> My 11 year-old has only been speaking for about 7 years (since she was 5

years-old). Her speech delay was different than my son's, though.

> My 6 year-old son speaks a lot, but his speech is like that of stroke patient;

the speech does not make any sense.

> He is doing better with individual words (just like reteaching stroke patient

to talk). His apraxia is not aphasia (lack of speech), as he speaks, lots, but

it just is not intelligible. It once was intelligible, briefly. He did not

babble much as a child and he meets all the signs and symptoms, except one, of a

list of autism symptoms I found on the web. Most kids on the spectrum do not

meet all of the symptoms or even all but one, but he does.

> I am just so happy that he does not line up videos/toys anymore (that

*abruptly* stopped when we abruptly stopped milk; it was simply amazing because

this was something he did everyday and all day. He used to have an obsession

with srings and ropes, but that is fading also. I do not ever see him walking on

tiptoes anymore. He comes up to me to show or point out something to me (never

did that either). He seems more interested in the environment around him instead

of into his own self (only way I know to explain it). He even told me that we

needed to replace two burned out bulbs in the dining room chandelier (that was a

whammy). The changes began within 24-48 hours and have continued to get better

everyday. Every day, I notice some weird behavior that he *does not do* anymore,

or a response to something that is more typical and normal than his old

responses (which is a good thing). ALL of his odd behavior began to change

within 24-48 hours of eliminating casein. I can only hope that the behavior and

the speech continues to get better more and more every day. I have a hard time

believeing myself that the casein was causing all of these problems; to me, it

is unbelievable. If someone would have told me this before now, I would not have

believed them.

> Some changes are subtle, but they are subtle enough to make a difference so

much that we notice.

> My son had everything from Asthma and bilateral pulmonary infiltrates of

unknown origin to rashes on his arms and legs to GI problems and behavioral

problems. Everything I could see is gone. I am not sure about the pulmonary

infiltrates, but if I was a betting person, I would bet they are disappearing as

well. (That may be worth the radiation from the X-Ray to see.)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Leah,

If you look at the products marketed for children, they usually have only

100-300 mgs EFAs per 'serving'; whether it is a few gummies, gelcaps or

chewables (which is what parents of resistant kids are more likely to be able to

get them to take) or they are plant based Omega 3s which aren't easily converted

to useful EFAs. Even the Coromega has just 650 mgs EFAs per packet. I was

giving my son more like 1.5 grams (which is close to using 3 packets Coromega

and probably 20 gummies or chewables). It wasn't reasonable or cost effective

to use the kid friendly stuff.

A 'high' dose is different for everyone. A 'good' dose, in my eyes, is at least

1 gram and probably closer to 2 grams per day. Or 5+ grams or more of ALA from

flax (alpha linolenic acid) or other plant sources. That's a lot o'flax.

I did hide it in Odwalla or Naked fruit shakes and in POM juices in the very

beginning, but quickly decided not to mess around and went straight to liquid on

a spoon. He was 2 at the time and didn't master pill swallowing until about age

6.

Pam

> > > >

> > > > AC protocol chelation. Both my boys were non-verbal before

> > changing to a GFCF diet and then AC protocol chelation.

> > > > TJ

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > From: Leah Korenstein <vitaltalim18@ ...>

> > > > abmdgroups (DOT) com; ;

> > mb12 valtrex; taca-usa@group s.com

> > > > Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:33:21 PM

> > > > Subject: [ ] for those of you whose kids used to be

> > non-verbal..

> > > >

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal, what in your

> > mind was the

> > > > single biggest change that made them start to speak?

> > > > anyone have any thoughts on Nutriivida?

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Leah

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

www.omega-direct.com gives you a breakdown on EPA/DHA, typically per teaspoon

(or 2 softgels) when you roll the cursor over the product. It makes it easy to

compare.

We do what we have to do at times to get supps in to our kids, but there is a

lot of other stuff in Clinical Essentials flavored oils plus about 1/2 of what a

typical NN blend will give you in Omega 3s.

http://www.omega-direct.com/

Pam

> > >

> > > AC protocol chelation. Both my boys were non-verbal before changing to a

GFCF diet and then AC protocol chelation.

> > > TJ

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Leah Korenstein <vitaltalim18@ ...>

> > > abmdgroups (DOT) com; ; mb12 valtrex@

groups. com; taca-usa@group s.com

> > > Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:33:21 PM

> > > Subject: [ ] for those of you whose kids used to be

non-verbal..

> > >

> > > ÂÂ

> > > for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal, what in your mind was

the

> > > single biggest change that made them start to speak?

> > > anyone have any thoughts on Nutriivida?

> > > Thanks,

> > > Leah

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

There's a Health From the Sun blend (borage, evening primrose, flax) that tastes

great over carbs and veggies instead of butter (added after food has been

cooked). Have you tried that? It's in a black bottle in the refrigerated

supplements section of health food stores.

S S

Re: for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal..

Posted by: " SHARON SMITH " ssmith0306@... ssmith0306

Mon May 3, 2010 7:24 am (PDT)

what brand of omega did you use? we are trying to get nn 3-6-9 into my son but

he refuses every method.

sharon

[Guest guest]

i havent, thats a great idea! i will google to see where to buy.

thanks

sharon

________________________________

From: Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...>

autism treatment

Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 8:29:44 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: for those of you whose kids used to be

non-verbal..

 

There's a Health From the Sun blend (borage, evening primrose, flax) that tastes

great over carbs and veggies instead of butter (added after food has been

cooked). Have you tried that? It's in a black bottle in the refrigerated

supplements section of health food stores.

S S

Re: for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal..

Posted by: " SHARON SMITH " ssmith0306 (DOT) com ssmith0306

Mon May 3, 2010 7:24 am (PDT)

what brand of omega did you use? we are trying to get nn 3-6-9 into my son but

he refuses every method.

sharon

[Guest guest]

Maggie and Irene, thanks for your posts,

could you kindly explain which kind of chelation did you do and how often?

I suppose it was oral (not IV nor Suppositories) right?

What is the dose?

What brands are the best?

Only Friday and Saturday night?

every how many hours?

thanks in advance for your help, I have done weekly IV DMPS and CaEDTA for 6

motnhs and nothing happened.....

> > > >

> > > > AC protocol chelation. Both my boys were non-verbal before changing to a

GFCF diet and then AC protocol chelation.

> > > > TJ

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > From: Leah Korenstein <vitaltalim18@ ...>

> > > > abmdgroups (DOT) com; ;

mb12 valtrex; taca-usa@group s.com

> > > > Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:33:21 PM

> > > > Subject: [ ] for those of you whose kids used to be

non-verbal..

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > > for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal, what in your mind was

the

> > > > single biggest change that made them start to speak?

> > > > anyone have any thoughts on Nutriivida?

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Leah

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

We have done Cutler chelation (oral) frequent, low dose based on body weight for

83 rounds. We chelate every weekend (Friday after school, through Monday before

school), 3 days on, 4 days off. Our son weighs 44 lbs, and he takes 25 mg of

dmsa and 22.5 mg of ALA. We are a little over the 1/2 mg per lb of body weight

max that Andy recommends, but my son does well on this dose. We dose every 2 1/2

hours when chelating, we used to do every 3 hours, but my son does better on

more frequent dosing. During the night we dose every 3 hours. You can get dmsa

from from vrp.com. Lots of places sell ALA. We use the hypoallergenic caps

from Kirkman.

Hope this helps.

Irene

> > > > >

> > > > > AC protocol chelation. Both my boys were non-verbal before changing to

a GFCF diet and then AC protocol chelation.

> > > > > TJ

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > From: Leah Korenstein <vitaltalim18@ ...>

> > > > > abmdgroups (DOT) com; ;

mb12 valtrex; taca-usa@group s.com

> > > > > Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:33:21 PM

> > > > > Subject: [ ] for those of you whose kids used to be

non-verbal..

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > > for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal, what in your mind

was the

> > > > > single biggest change that made them start to speak?

> > > > > anyone have any thoughts on Nutriivida?

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Leah

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

If nothing happened you're extremely lucky because EDTA is contraindicated for

mercury toxic folks and IV chelation is a bad idea.

S S

Re: for those of you whose kids used to be non-verbal..

Posted by: " iflow97 " iflow97@... iflow97

Wed May 5, 2010 7:42 pm (PDT)

>

> thanks in advance for your help, I have done weekly IV DMPS and CaEDTA for 6

motnhs and nothing happened.....