Re: Obsession over computer, video games, electronics

[Guest guest]

Just off the top of my head, make it your number one priority (where it is? or

what else should you expect, against a number one obsession/compulsion?) and

redirect/cultivate accordingly.

Take it in stages if you must, but I quit smoking cold-turkey many years ago.

Find suitable alternate activities in the meantime, (of a patch? but it may need

to be more engaging than that, I know, but who said it would be easy, to start.

Just get over it one hour at a time? and reward accordingly) and make sure your

child (student) loses the trappings of his or her addiction as well, as best as

you can arrange as much, of such reinforcement value to the addiction, often

includes people by association, where not of some other form of communication?

of what is so interesting? but could be made more beneficial, with your, a

caregiver's, insight? (May require more attention than you might be willing to

give to it, of the problem, perhaps?)

Refer to Schramm's, the seven steps of gaining instruction control where

you must follow a more detailed and scientifically based protocol?

http://www.lulu.com/items/volume_53/800000/800564/1/print/800564.pdf

I'm no expert on drugs and/or bio-medical interventions for as much, that would

work generally and not so specifically for the individual. Don't be so demanding

on everything else? and try what you may in that respect, of what is also

healthy if not so natural?

I believe I should be able to attend any Nobel Prize ceremony on my behalf in

that respect? if that's OK with you? .. .

Best wishes, and good luck,

Glavic

People quite addictive behaviors all the time, especially where they find a more

reasonable and almost if not more satisfying " alternative? " (Work, and our

genius quality can be like that) Usually requires love, if not a dash of humour,

I understand, what I understand.. .

What communicates?!. but what else.. It's about answering all our questions (of

interest?) and satisfying our needs, no less

BWT

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> Is there anything that can be done biomedically to help with the obsession

over such things? (I already know chelating is #1, but anything else in the

meantime?) Is it the visual stimulus that these children need or is it just

dopamine reward, or what?

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> What is the best way to handle the addiction? Cold turkey and no electronics

period? If any electronics are given, they are wanted constantly, every time

someone is not looking, every time someone else uses them, etc. Redirect,

redirect, redirect.

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> When taken away, the child acts like they are in PHYSICAL PAIN from the

removal!

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> I am asking not only for my own family, but for others I know. I suppose if

you can answer the question, " How can this addiction be curbed? " - and you are

right, you will be nominated by all the rest of us for the Nobel Prize in some

science category.

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> Will Inositol even touch this? What about NAC?

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[Guest guest]

I was going to sign-off, Rebel without a cause (of such objectivity?) but I

thought better of It.. .

Glavic

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> > Is there anything that can be done biomedically to help with the obsession

over such things? (I already know chelating is #1, but anything else in the

meantime?) Is it the visual stimulus that these children need or is it just

dopamine reward, or what?

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> > What is the best way to handle the addiction? Cold turkey and no

electronics period? If any electronics are given, they are wanted constantly,

every time someone is not looking, every time someone else uses them, etc.

Redirect, redirect, redirect.

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> > When taken away, the child acts like they are in PHYSICAL PAIN from the

removal!

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> > I am asking not only for my own family, but for others I know. I suppose if

you can answer the question, " How can this addiction be curbed? " - and you are

right, you will be nominated by all the rest of us for the Nobel Prize in some

science category.

> >

> > Will Inositol even touch this? What about NAC?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I recently read this book and it explains alot.

http://www.boysadrift.com/factors.php

TJ

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From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@...>

Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 12:23:14 PM

Subject: [ ] Obsession over computer, video games, electronics

Is there anything that can be done biomedically to help with the obsession over

such things? (I already know chelating is #1, but anything else in the

meantime?) Is it the visual stimulus that these children need or is it just

dopamine reward, or what?

What is the best way to handle the addiction? Cold turkey and no electronics

period? If any electronics are given, they are wanted constantly, every time

someone is not looking, every time someone else uses them, etc. Redirect,

redirect, redirect.

When taken away, the child acts like they are in PHYSICAL PAIN from the removal!

I am asking not only for my own family, but for others I know. I suppose if you

can answer the question, " How can this addiction be curbed? " - and you are

right, you will be nominated by all the rest of us for the Nobel Prize in some

science category.

Will Inositol even touch this? What about NAC?

[Guest guest]

Thanks TJ, but I just bought two books and I am waiting to have the money to buy

two more that I want to read so tell me, what does it say we can do to help if

you could be so kind! Thanks

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> I recently read this book and it explains alot.

> http://www.boysadrift.com/factors.php

> TJ

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> From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@...>

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> Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 12:23:14 PM

> Subject: [ ] Obsession over computer, video games, electronics

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> Is there anything that can be done biomedically to help with the obsession

over

> such things? (I already know chelating is #1, but anything else in the

> meantime?) Is it the visual stimulus that these children need or is it just

> dopamine reward, or what?

>

>

> What is the best way to handle the addiction? Cold turkey and no electronics

> period? If any electronics are given, they are wanted constantly, every time

> someone is not looking, every time someone else uses them, etc. Redirect,

> redirect, redirect.

>

>

> When taken away, the child acts like they are in PHYSICAL PAIN from the

removal!

>

> I am asking not only for my own family, but for others I know. I suppose if

you

> can answer the question, " How can this addiction be curbed? " - and you are

> right, you will be nominated by all the rest of us for the Nobel Prize in some

> science category.

>

> Will Inositol even touch this? What about NAC?

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[Guest guest]

See is the supplement lithium helps. It does in our house.

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> > I recently read this book and it explains alot.

> > http://www.boysadrift.com/factors.php

> > TJ

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> > From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@>

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> > Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 12:23:14 PM

> > Subject: [ ] Obsession over computer, video games, electronics

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> > Is there anything that can be done biomedically to help with the obsession

over

> > such things? (I already know chelating is #1, but anything else in the

> > meantime?) Is it the visual stimulus that these children need or is it just

> > dopamine reward, or what?

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> >

> > What is the best way to handle the addiction? Cold turkey and no

electronics

> > period? If any electronics are given, they are wanted constantly, every

time

> > someone is not looking, every time someone else uses them, etc. Redirect,

> > redirect, redirect.

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> > When taken away, the child acts like they are in PHYSICAL PAIN from the

removal!

> >

> > I am asking not only for my own family, but for others I know. I suppose if

you

> > can answer the question, " How can this addiction be curbed? " - and you are

> > right, you will be nominated by all the rest of us for the Nobel Prize in

some

> > science category.

> >

> > Will Inositol even touch this? What about NAC?

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[Guest guest]

> Is there anything that can be done biomedically to help with the obsession

over such things?

At my house, obsessions and OCD issues were caused by B12 deficiency, yeast

overgrowth, and viruses.

> What is the best way to handle the addiction? Cold turkey and no electronics

period? If any electronics are given, they are wanted constantly, every time

someone is not looking, every time someone else uses them, etc. Redirect,

redirect, redirect.

At one point I had to use a clock and say " your time is 3:30 to 4, if your

schoolwork is finished, and it's not 3:30 yet " [or " your schoolwork is not yet

finished " ] This worked relatively well.

If the child's attitude became sour, then the item was removed for the entire

day.

B12, yeast control, and anti-virals eliminated the problem, so definitely

consider those.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I got it at the library. I didn't finish the book and had to take it back. The

end was where they talked about solutions. I know they talked about limiting the

amount of time on the games, and the type of games.

TJ

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From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@...>

Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 12:31:51 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Obsession over computer, video games, electronics

 

Thanks TJ, but I just bought two books and I am waiting to have the money to buy

two more that I want to read so tell me, what does it say we can do to help if

you could be so kind! Thanks

>

> I recently read this book and it explains alot.

> http://www.boysadrift.com/factors.php

> TJ

>

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> ________________________________

> From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@...>

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> Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 12:23:14 PM

> Subject: [ ] Obsession over computer, video games, electronics

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> Is there anything that can be done biomedically to help with the obsession

over

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> such things? (I already know chelating is #1, but anything else in the

> meantime?) Is it the visual stimulus that these children need or is it just

> dopamine reward, or what?

>

>

> What is the best way to handle the addiction? Cold turkey and no electronics

> period? If any electronics are given, they are wanted constantly, every time

> someone is not looking, every time someone else uses them, etc. Redirect,

> redirect, redirect.

>

>

> When taken away, the child acts like they are in PHYSICAL PAIN from the

>removal!

>

> I am asking not only for my own family, but for others I know. I suppose if

you

>

> can answer the question, " How can this addiction be curbed? " - and you are

> right, you will be nominated by all the rest of us for the Nobel Prize in some

> science category.

>

> Will Inositol even touch this? What about NAC?

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Liz,

OCD is so trying to live with. What has worked moderately well for my

daughter is " Wait 10 minutes. " Apparently, with a compulsion to do

something there is high intensity anxiety which lessens during the wait, and

when the person finds that nothing horrible happened, it takes a little bite

each time out of the compulsion.

If You want to use inositol, it usually needs large doses regularly. Some

studies show no results till up to 12-18 grams a day! It appears to be

non-toxic. I think You start low and work up.

Sounds simple and does work to ease the situation.

Francine