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I went thru that too when I quit drinking. Luckily it didn't last too

long!

I know what you mean about the anti-depressants. I didn't want them

either. Took me 4 months the first time I did treatment before I

started them. I did notice a difference tho, especially when those

mood swings kicked it. They even had to up the dosage.

Maybe you won't even need them for the treatment. That would be just

one less pill to take!

LeighAnn

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Xanax isn't an anti-depressant.... its a heavy duty tranquillizer and

very, very addictive.

Medications

I'm not on treatment yet, but I've noticed since I quit drinking, I

suffer from anxiety. I decided to see a psychiatrist about

anti-depressants and of course I told him about my disease. He said I

was just worried about nothing, but he wanted to see me again. Well to

make a short story shorter, when I saw him again, he prescribed zanex.

They help me now, but I don't know if they'll help me on treatment. I

don't really want anti-depressants, but that's me. I think it's

different strokes for different folks, just like the sides affect people

differently...Take care...

Jeanie

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Carolyn -

I have a herniation at L4/5 right now. The pain was pretty

bad until I got a series of ESI shots to block the pain. I'm

wondering if they will work on stenosis. You can check out

different treatments on back.com, spineonline.com and spine-universe.com.

I take Amitriptyline (elavil) 75 mg and 10mg of hydrocodone

each night and it lets me sleep. I hope this helps.

If you don't have herniated discs and are dealing with

stenosis, you might want to look at some minimally invasive

surgical procedures, such as the ones done by Dr. Jho (drjho.com)

in Pittsburgh. I'm trying to get info from him as well to see if he'll

treat my lumbar herniation.

Good luck to you.

joe

> Is anyone out there taking a pain medication that works?

>

> I have severe spinal stenosis in the L4-L5 area which causes pain in

> the calf of my right leg. I am currently taking oramorph a generic

> for Mscontin. Also at night, I take nortriptyline. They do help

> dull the pain to a point where as long as I don't stand or walk much,

> I'm fairly comfortable. But I'd really like to find something that

> did not have so many side effects and get off this schedule 2

> addicting drug, oramorph. The nortriptyline I can only use a night

> because it literally puts me to sleep.

>

> So does anyone have a pain med that is really helping and maybe does

> not cause addiction or put you to sleep?

>

> Carolyn

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Hey Carolyn

I also have stenosis in the same area...ive tried just about everything. Right

now im on vicodin and soma....doesn't help with the leg pain,but definatly the

back. i use ice packs on my leg and that helps. other then that just laying down

helps..

medications

Is anyone out there taking a pain medication that works?

I have severe spinal stenosis in the L4-L5 area which causes pain in

the calf of my right leg. I am currently taking oramorph a generic

for Mscontin. Also at night, I take nortriptyline. They do help

dull the pain to a point where as long as I don't stand or walk much,

I'm fairly comfortable. But I'd really like to find something that

did not have so many side effects and get off this schedule 2

addicting drug, oramorph. The nortriptyline I can only use a night

because it literally puts me to sleep.

So does anyone have a pain med that is really helping and maybe does

not cause addiction or put you to sleep?

Carolyn

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I had the the ESI series of shots and that only helped for a day...but then

again all meds work differently on each individual.

Re: medications

Carolyn -

I have a herniation at L4/5 right now. The pain was pretty

bad until I got a series of ESI shots to block the pain. I'm

wondering if they will work on stenosis. You can check out

different treatments on back.com, spineonline.com and spine-universe.com.

I take Amitriptyline (elavil) 75 mg and 10mg of hydrocodone

each night and it lets me sleep. I hope this helps.

If you don't have herniated discs and are dealing with

stenosis, you might want to look at some minimally invasive

surgical procedures, such as the ones done by Dr. Jho (drjho.com)

in Pittsburgh. I'm trying to get info from him as well to see if he'll

treat my lumbar herniation.

Good luck to you.

joe

> Is anyone out there taking a pain medication that works?

>

> I have severe spinal stenosis in the L4-L5 area which causes pain in

> the calf of my right leg. I am currently taking oramorph a generic

> for Mscontin. Also at night, I take nortriptyline. They do help

> dull the pain to a point where as long as I don't stand or walk much,

> I'm fairly comfortable. But I'd really like to find something that

> did not have so many side effects and get off this schedule 2

> addicting drug, oramorph. The nortriptyline I can only use a night

> because it literally puts me to sleep.

>

> So does anyone have a pain med that is really helping and maybe does

> not cause addiction or put you to sleep?

>

> Carolyn

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How long have you been on Vicodin? Hope you had a

lovely 4th.

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medications

Hey Carolyn

I also have stenosis in the same area...ive tried

just about everything. Right now im on vicodin and

soma....doesn't help with the leg pain,but

definatly the back. i use ice packs on my leg and

that helps. other then that just laying down

helps..

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Patty:

I am so very sorry to hear about 's week. Bless her, and your

hearts...

Lodine is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug with action similar to

Naproxen. I am guessing they are trying a different med to see if she has

fewer side effects.Lodine can, however, have similar effects. I will pray

it doesn't!!

The other drug I am unfamiliar with. Can you clarify the spelling??

Most kids who are on non-steroidals are given something for stomach

protection. Rob was on Naproxen for about a year, and took Zantac to

protect his stomach. He has been on Voltaren since early this year, and

in August he was begun on Prilosec and it has given him better relief.

I will keep you and in my prayers.

and Rob 14 Spondy

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:22:42 EST Emeraldsx3@... writes:

> Hello All:

>

> We (the doctor and us) took our daughter, Caitlin, off of Naproxen

> (last dose

> was 8 am Tuesday) because it was upsetting her stomach and

> constipating her

> (she was literally screaming while trying to go to the bathroom

> because it hurt

> so bad, poor little thing). Well, today her fever is back up to

> 104+ and she

> is hurting all over. Now she is complaining of her tummy and throat

> too:(

> The doctor called in two prescriptions and I was wondering if anyone

> here has

> heard of or had experience with either. I am afraid my spelling may

> be off.

> The first one is Lodeine (to replace the Naproxen) and the second

> one is

> Pertonic/Pertonix (which is in case the Lodeine upsets her stomach

> like the

> Naproxen). If you have used it, or your child, could you tell me

> about it? Thanks to

> all.

>

> Take care.

> Patty

>

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Patty:

I apologize for getting Caitlin and mixed up. Sorry!

Take care,

and Rob 14 Spondy

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:22:42 EST Emeraldsx3@... writes:

> Hello All:

>

> We (the doctor and us) took our daughter, Caitlin, off of Naproxen

> (last dose

> was 8 am Tuesday) because it was upsetting her stomach and

> constipating her

> (she was literally screaming while trying to go to the bathroom

> because it hurt

> so bad, poor little thing). Well, today her fever is back up to

> 104+ and she

> is hurting all over. Now she is complaining of her tummy and throat

> too:(

> The doctor called in two prescriptions and I was wondering if anyone

> here has

> heard of or had experience with either. I am afraid my spelling may

> be off.

> The first one is Lodeine (to replace the Naproxen) and the second

> one is

> Pertonic/Pertonix (which is in case the Lodeine upsets her stomach

> like the

> Naproxen). If you have used it, or your child, could you tell me

> about it? Thanks to

> all.

>

> Take care.

> Patty

>

> To leave this mailing list, send request to:

> -unsubscribe

>

>

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Patty,

It sounds like you are talking about Protonix. This is a Proton Pump Inhibitor which reduces the acid in the stomach. This should help protect Caitlin's stomach. My daughter uses Protonix for gastroesophageal reflux and it helps with her stomach pain.

Lori

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--Patty,

IM sorry to read about Caitlins problems with Naproxen, had

the same issues... if he didnt take his meds for 2-3 days his fevers

and joint pains would return. Nick did well on the nap in the

beginning but it really started to do a number on his tummy, he

couldnt take his morning dose until he got to school otherwise he

would throw up on the bus. We also couldnt plan on driving anywhere

until the nap had been in his system for awhile otherwise up it

would come.

Once Nick started to complain more and more of tummy upsets, i knew

it was time to come off the nap. He had been on nap since June. At

our last doctors appt we switched him to vioxx and hes doing soo

much better. Its a tiny pill that hes able to swallow ( Nick is only

6 and tiny) and its only once a day. We did have the choice to

switch to another med similar to nap and add prilosec, but i didnt

want him taking more meds.

I hope you find what works best for Caitlin and she starts to feel

better soon..

Hugs Helen and ( systemic 6 )

- In , Emeraldsx3@a... wrote:

> Hello All:

>

> We (the doctor and us) took our daughter, Caitlin, off of Naproxen

(last dose

> was 8 am Tuesday) because it was upsetting her stomach and

constipating her

> (she was literally screaming while trying to go to the bathroom

because it hurt

> so bad, poor little thing). Well, today her fever is back up to

104+ and she

> is hurting all over. Now she is complaining of her tummy and

throat too:(

> The doctor called in two prescriptions and I was wondering if

anyone here has

> heard of or had experience with either. I am afraid my spelling

may be off.

> The first one is Lodeine (to replace the Naproxen) and the second

one is

> Pertonic/Pertonix (which is in case the Lodeine upsets her stomach

like the

> Naproxen). If you have used it, or your child, could you tell me

about it? Thanks to

> all.

>

> Take care.

> Patty

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In a message dated 12/18/03 7:34:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,

snooksmama@... writes:

<<

I apologize for getting Caitlin and mixed up. Sorry!

Hi :

No problem, they are twins, so people always get them mixed up anyway:)

Patty

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Hi Helen:

Thank you for your reply. Sounds like had a time of it with

Naproxen too.

I will have to keep Vioxx in my mind. I am not sure how long she can handle

the Naproxen or how long she will even need it. Still waiting on the

'official' dx.

I, like you, don't want her taking a lot of meds. I am hoping I can give her

Milk of Magnesia to get her bowels moving and avoid the Protonix, but will

give it to her if needed. We just have to figure out how to get her to swallow

it.

much better. Its a tiny pill that he's able to swallow ( Nick is on

Thank you for your well wishes. I am hoping to find hopeful lab reports when

we go to the rheumy on Tuesday.

Take care.

Patty

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Hi , I am new to this group too, I had few episodes of seisures

(grand mall) since I was 23 years old. My doctors told me that even if

you have only one seizure in your life you are an epileptic. My journey

was through phenobarbital (horrible) dilantin (a little better) up to

trileptal (practically no side effects). EEG doesnt necessarily tell

anything, I had two and they didnt show anything, I have MRI and catScan

- nothing, and I was told that since these are just snapshots of brain

function, they not necessarily show anything. So on into life with meds

and off my sorry trip of " being sick " . Life goes on and beauty of it is

that if seizures can be controled than it is OK, just think that 100

years ago we would be burned as witches and devils for having

seizures!!! So chin up.

Anita

>

> I am a newcomer to this group, but over the past couple of weeks I

have

> seen a lot of new info. The big thing for me is medication. I have

seen

> all sorts of types in here and most of them I never heard of. I have

> been dealing with seizures since 2001. They have been under control

for

> the most part. Since the middle of January I have had 3. I have been

> told that I do NOT have epilepsy. That is what I was told in January

> after having a 36 hour eeg. Before that I was told that I did have

> epilepsy. I am currently on 600 mg of Lamictal and currently being

> weened off the 400mg of Dilantin. I seem to be getting better and

happy

> to be being weened off the Dilantin as I have had plenty of side

> effects. Does anyone have any thoughts on this.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

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Hi Shirley, I had my Band on Mar.16..And do take some very large pills. I know this sound's gross but just chew them to a paste. Or you can put them in a baggie and crush to a powder. But please dont's sprinkle them on jello..Yuck If I can help you can call me. 928-226-7575 Lou DOB 3/26/08 shrlols <shrlols@...> wrote: I am researching the lapband and sleeve.What do you do about medications that are too big for the lapband?Have

really enjoyed reading everyones info.Thank you.Shirley

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It's what we do. . . And you will too. It's that important. shrlols <shrlols@...> wrote: Thank you for answering my question, good to know so many out therewho have already made the journey and still willing to help the oneson the fence.Shirley

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Hi, I'm Jeanie Uhlik, I was banded on 9/14/07...no problem at that

time with my meds...just cut them up smaller, then swallowed...even

after my first fill on Nov. 8, still no problem, same thing.

However...

I was filled again this past Thursday, April 3, I was given 1.75 cc

the first time (a 4 cc band), Dr. Campos added an additonal .9 cc

because my stoma had become the size of my pinkie finger and I could

just about eat everything and had been floating between 215 and 208

for 8 weeks. The fill was definenty required if I were to loose more

weight

I had no problem swallowing my meds on Thursday night (I have to take

2 vicodin, 2 soma and 1 xanax three times a day due to pain in my

back). I did the usual thing like I did before the recent fill. I

woke at 3:00 am with a roaring backache, so I got up and took my meds

all cut up like usual....bad move. Somehow my stoma/esophagus had

swelled and I couldn't retain the meds, I kept " sliming " and was in

constant pain for about an hour, luckily about 80 percent of my pain

meds were ingested, however they irritated the stoma, it swelled

almost completely shut. On our was back to San Diego we stopped for

drinks, I bought an Arizona Ice tea and some Apple Juice. Just 2

swallows of Ice tea and I was upchucking the whole thing --luckily I

carry an emergency bag in my purse with napkins in it...someone needs

to let Ernesto know that he really should carry paper towels for such

occurances, ( I was probably not the first that this has happened

to). After I had slimed/pb'd all of the Ice tea (only about 2 small

swallows) I fell asleep on my pillow until we arrived in San Diego.

I felt okay until we went to Mcs to sit and relax (waited for

6.5 hours for our outbound flight home). It was time to take meds

again, I did the same as I had the previous 2 times, but this time,

it hurt so bad, I broke out in cold sweats, the pain would not go

away. I have never until now called Dr. A's office for help.

at Dr. A's office. there told me not to even try and swallow a thing,

nothing by mouth for 9 hours, then only small sips of cammomile tea,

my stoma was too swolen. She told me to call back the next day if I

needed more advise (Saturday). I asked her if they would be there on

a Saturday, she said yes, they are there 7 days a week, What a

Support Team!!!

We found a bench at Mcs out of the traffic flow and I

finished sliming out of public view (very embarassing). I had asked

a security person if there was a nurses station I could find, she

said no, but they would call an ambulance for me if I needed it.

(don't you all think airports should have emergency nurses stations?

They have them in amusement parks... So I stretched out on the

padded bench and actually fell asleep for 2 hours. I felt much

better then. My hubby found my bathrobe and actually put socks on my

feet for me (what an angel).

We got into Fresno at 7:30 pm and drove straight home 1 hour and 10

minutes. It was time to take meds again :o((. Sooo... I ground them

into a powder and mixed them with honey and hot cammomile tea.

Wasn't too bad. By the way, it is now the Saturday at 6:20 pm. I

have slept almost the whole day and only drank 1 cup of peppermint

tea and a half cup of chicken broth taken off of chicken noodle

soup. I have not felt hungry at all, but I knew I had to eat

something to keep up my strength. I still cannot take very big

swallows without hurting, I guess it will take a while for me to get

used to the new adjustment. Moral of the story: not every fill is

the same, don't assume so. I take my pills by way of powder mixed

with a tsp of hot water then add a tsp of honey, that is the only way

I can get them down. Hope this warning helps anyone out there who

has to take pills on a regular basis.

Most sincerely, Jeanie Uhlik 246/206/145.

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Thanks Jeanie for the advise.Im going for my 2nd fill

on th 19th and will leave that night.Thats my fear is

once I get to that airport or on that plane Im praying

I wont have been filled to much.I have to take two

pills a day and they are nasty to have to open them.

DOB 12/6/07

229/192/155 1st big goal

--- jeanuhlik <jeanuhlik@...> wrote:

> Hi, I'm Jeanie Uhlik, I was banded on 9/14/07...no

> problem at that

> time with my meds...just cut them up smaller, then

> swallowed...even

> after my first fill on Nov. 8, still no problem,

> same thing.

> However...

>

> I was filled again this past Thursday, April 3, I

> was given 1.75 cc

> the first time (a 4 cc band), Dr. Campos added an

> additonal .9 cc

> because my stoma had become the size of my pinkie

> finger and I could

> just about eat everything and had been floating

> between 215 and 208

> for 8 weeks. The fill was definenty required if I

> were to loose more

> weight

>

> I had no problem swallowing my meds on Thursday

> night (I have to take

> 2 vicodin, 2 soma and 1 xanax three times a day due

> to pain in my

> back). I did the usual thing like I did before the

> recent fill. I

> woke at 3:00 am with a roaring backache, so I got up

> and took my meds

> all cut up like usual....bad move. Somehow my

> stoma/esophagus had

> swelled and I couldn't retain the meds, I kept

> " sliming " and was in

> constant pain for about an hour, luckily about 80

> percent of my pain

> meds were ingested, however they irritated the

> stoma, it swelled

> almost completely shut. On our was back to San

> Diego we stopped for

> drinks, I bought an Arizona Ice tea and some Apple

> Juice. Just 2

> swallows of Ice tea and I was upchucking the whole

> thing --luckily I

> carry an emergency bag in my purse with napkins in

> it...someone needs

> to let Ernesto know that he really should carry

> paper towels for such

> occurances, ( I was probably not the first that this

> has happened

> to). After I had slimed/pb'd all of the Ice tea

> (only about 2 small

> swallows) I fell asleep on my pillow until we

> arrived in San Diego.

>

> I felt okay until we went to Mcs to sit and

> relax (waited for

> 6.5 hours for our outbound flight home). It was

> time to take meds

> again, I did the same as I had the previous 2 times,

> but this time,

> it hurt so bad, I broke out in cold sweats, the pain

> would not go

> away. I have never until now called Dr. A's office

> for help.

> at Dr. A's office. there told me not to even try and

> swallow a thing,

> nothing by mouth for 9 hours, then only small sips

> of cammomile tea,

> my stoma was too swolen. She told me to call back

> the next day if I

> needed more advise (Saturday). I asked her if they

> would be there on

> a Saturday, she said yes, they are there 7 days a

> week, What a

> Support Team!!!

>

> We found a bench at Mcs out of the traffic

> flow and I

> finished sliming out of public view (very

> embarassing). I had asked

> a security person if there was a nurses station I

> could find, she

> said no, but they would call an ambulance for me if

> I needed it.

> (don't you all think airports should have emergency

> nurses stations?

> They have them in amusement parks... So I

> stretched out on the

> padded bench and actually fell asleep for 2 hours.

> I felt much

> better then. My hubby found my bathrobe and

> actually put socks on my

> feet for me (what an angel).

>

> We got into Fresno at 7:30 pm and drove straight

> home 1 hour and 10

> minutes. It was time to take meds again :o((.

> Sooo... I ground them

> into a powder and mixed them with honey and hot

> cammomile tea.

> Wasn't too bad. By the way, it is now the Saturday

> at 6:20 pm. I

> have slept almost the whole day and only drank 1 cup

> of peppermint

> tea and a half cup of chicken broth taken off of

> chicken noodle

> soup. I have not felt hungry at all, but I knew I

> had to eat

> something to keep up my strength. I still cannot

> take very big

> swallows without hurting, I guess it will take a

> while for me to get

> used to the new adjustment. Moral of the story: not

> every fill is

> the same, don't assume so. I take my pills by way

> of powder mixed

> with a tsp of hot water then add a tsp of honey,

> that is the only way

> I can get them down. Hope this warning helps anyone

> out there who

> has to take pills on a regular basis.

>

> Most sincerely, Jeanie Uhlik 246/206/145.

>

>

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Hi Gloria.

Thats horrible that you must make such a time consuming trip just for HCV meds.

I wonder how many other people have to do that sort of thing?

Hopefully mine will come to the nearest Pharm, because I dont do well riding in a car.

love

don in ks

From: Gloria <gadamscan@...>Subject: [ ] Medications Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 9:25 PM

Hi Everyone:Gotta tell you the saga of me trying to get my meds for the next month for this Clinical Trial.So, this past weekend, I decided that I just did not want to travel from my little city on Vancouver Island, BC, down to the ferry terminal (about a 1-1/4 hr drive), then wait for the ferry (about 1 hr hopefully), to cross over and dock (about 2 hrs) then make my way across to the Vancouver General Hospital (another good 1 hr, providing none of the streets are dug up because of the Olympics) just to try to find a fast parking spot (lots of laughs) to go up to the 5th floor and be handed my meds for the month. Then, because I do not find Vancouver and exciting place to be and everyone I know there are busy this Friday - I'd just be turning around and repeating that trip back home again, except that it's a Friday and likely the ferries would be backed up, due to all those

people that are willing to spend a gross amount of $$$ just to come a visit the island.On top of that, they should have been given me these meds at the end of July anyway; but, the confidential Pharmaceutical Co has had a horrendous hold up in distribution. In fact, it was only today that the clinician was able to assured these meds would be there by Friday. So, we started hunting an alternative to that longggg drive. For an hour or two, we thought he could catch the shipment and have it sent directly to my Pharmacy here in town. But, because it is already on the way to Vancouver, that couldn't be changed.Then, a client stops by this morning and tells me that his wife his leaving for Vancouver tomorrow to visit her grandchild and it turns out will be just down the road from the clinic. So, finally, I can get my meds!!!!Gloria

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We have to drive into town from the mountains to pick up our methadone script.

It's par for the course when there is a monopoly on drugs.

Hi Gloria.

Thats horrible that you must make such a time consuming trip just for HCV meds.

I wonder how many other people have to do that sort of thing?

Hopefully mine will come to the nearest Pharm, because I dont do well riding in a car.

love

don in ks

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Hi

Dont you have a Pharm closer to you, that can dole out your script?

I mean, I doubt you or Gloria are rich and can afford the gas.

Also your sick, and its a bummer to have to travel.

Is it possible either of you can have them delivered via the post office?

I mean, I know Methadone is a controlled substance, but arent all Pscripts?

I sometimes get Pmeds by mail.

love

don in ks

From: M Ress <Safoocat@...>Subject: Re: [ ] Medications Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 10:24 PM

We have to drive into town from the mountains to pick up our methadone script.

It's par for the course when there is a monopoly on drugs.

Hi Gloria.

Thats horrible that you must make such a time consuming trip just for HCV meds.

I wonder how many other people have to do that sort of thing?

Hopefully mine will come to the nearest Pharm, because I dont do well riding in a car.

love

don in ks

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The only reason for all this travelling is because it's a Clinical Trial. When I was on treatment before, my pharmacy ordered it in and I just picked it up. Except, back then I had to shell out close to $875 every two weeks for them. Our Pharmacare approved me for the meds, just wouldn't cover them because I hadn't filed an Income Tax for a few years.Gloria

Hi Gloria.

Thats horrible that you must make such a time consuming trip just for HCV meds.

I wonder how many other people have to do that sort of thing?

Hopefully mine will come to the nearest Pharm, because I dont do well riding in a car.

love

don in ks

From: Gloria <gadamscan (DOT) ca>Subject: [ ] Medications Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 9:25 PM

Hi Everyone:Gotta tell you the saga of me trying to get my meds for the next month for this Clinical Trial.So, this past weekend, I decided that I just did not want to travel from my little city on Vancouver Island, BC, down to the ferry terminal (about a 1-1/4 hr drive), then wait for the ferry (about 1 hr hopefully), to cross over and dock (about 2 hrs) then make my way across to the Vancouver General Hospital (another good 1 hr, providing none of the streets are dug up because of the Olympics) just to try to find a fast parking spot (lots of laughs) to go up to the 5th floor and be handed my meds for the month. Then, because I do not find Vancouver and exciting place to be and everyone I know there are busy this Friday - I'd just be turning around and repeating that trip back home again, except that it's a Friday and likely the ferries would be backed up, due to all

those

people that are willing to spend a gross amount of $$$ just to come a visit the island.On top of that, they should have been given me these meds at the end of July anyway; but, the confidential Pharmaceutical Co has had a horrendous hold up in distribution. In fact, it was only today that the clinician was able to assured these meds would be there by Friday. So, we started hunting an alternative to that longggg drive. For an hour or two, we thought he could catch the shipment and have it sent directly to my Pharmacy here in town. But, because it is already on the way to Vancouver, that couldn't be changed.Then, a client stops by this morning and tells me that his wife his leaving for Vancouver tomorrow to visit her grandchild and it turns out will be just down the road from the clinic. So, finally, I can get my meds!!!!Gloria

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Hi Don,

Thanks for the thoughts. In most states that would likely be the case

but in California methadone and other such drugs are schedule II or something

like that and we have to go to the doctor's office and pick it up. He used to mail

it to the pharmacy but since they were taken over by a big corporation that is no

longer the case. They'd rather us spend several dollars on gas than them spend.44

on a stamp.‹(•¿•)› Ress Felton, CA"Drink water from your own cistern, flowing water from your own well." (The Book of Proverbs 5:15)

From: Christ <ludichrist2000@...>Subject: Re: [ ] Medications Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 8:35 PM

Hi

Dont you have a Pharm closer to you, that can dole out your script?

I mean, I doubt you or Gloria are rich and can afford the gas.

Also your sick, and its a bummer to have to travel.

Is it possible either of you can have them delivered via the post office?

I mean, I know Methadone is a controlled substance, but arent all Pscripts?

I sometimes get Pmeds by mail.

love

don in ks

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Hi Gloria

I havent filed income taxes for near 30 years.

Thats just not right that you should EVER be denied your meds for some unrelated reason like taxes.

And 875.00 also blows my mind...every two weeks. Dammmmmmmmm.

How did you manage that one?

God, I hope I dont have to deal with heavy duty problems like you all.

I can just barely face having HCV in the first place.

love

don in ks

From: Gloria <gadamscan (DOT) ca>Subject: [ ] Medications Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 9:25 PM

Hi Everyone:Gotta tell you the saga of me trying to get my meds for the next month for this Clinical Trial.So, this past weekend, I decided that I just did not want to travel from my little city on Vancouver Island, BC, down to the ferry terminal (about a 1-1/4 hr drive), then wait for the ferry (about 1 hr hopefully), to cross over and dock (about 2 hrs) then make my way across to the Vancouver General Hospital (another good 1 hr, providing none of the streets are dug up because of the Olympics) just to try to find a fast parking spot (lots of laughs) to go up to the 5th floor and be handed my meds for the month. Then, because I do not find Vancouver and exciting place to be and everyone I know there are busy this Friday - I'd just be turning around and repeating that trip back home again, except that it's a Friday and likely the ferries would be backed

up, due to all those people that are willing to spend a gross amount of $$$ just to come a visit the island.On top of that, they should have been given me these meds at the end of July anyway; but, the confidential Pharmaceutical Co has had a horrendous hold up in distribution. In fact, it was only today that the clinician was able to assured these meds would be there by Friday. So, we started hunting an alternative to that longggg drive. For an hour or two, we thought he could catch the shipment and have it sent directly to my Pharmacy here in town. But, because it is already on the way to Vancouver, that couldn't be changed.Then, a client stops by this morning and tells me that his wife his leaving for Vancouver tomorrow to visit her grandchild and it turns out will be just down the road from the clinic. So, finally, I can get my meds!!!!Gloria

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Ah, I see.

do you have to pay for a doc visit when you get your meds?

Mr President....here is another way to cut health care costs.....listen up.

From: Christ <ludichrist2000@...>Subject: Re: [ ] Medications Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 8:35 PM

Hi

Dont you have a Pharm closer to you, that can dole out your script?

I mean, I doubt you or Gloria are rich and can afford the gas.

Also your sick, and its a bummer to have to travel.

Is it possible either of you can have them delivered via the post office?

I mean, I know Methadone is a controlled substance, but arent all Pscripts?

I sometimes get Pmeds by mail.

love

don in ks

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Our Pharmacare System relies on last years combined income to figure out what level you end up at and thus how much you fork over before they covered. So, say in your case, the meds would probably cost you absolutely nothing because of your income. However, my hubby was still making some pretty good money back then. However, it did end up bankrupting us as well !!!! Then our wonderful Revenue Canada took me to court about 1/2 way through my treatment and because no one, not my lawyer, nor the Prosecutor or the Judge every understand for one second that the meds were going to cost us over $20,000 in the end, so they gave me a court fine of another $9000.00.I had to get in touch with the Prosecution Office last spring to let them know that their was absolutely no way that I

could pay more than I had already!!! Our Income has reduced so drastically that I'm not even going to be able to continue to pay for my other meds her soon. So, I plan to get a hold of them tomorrow and ask why we haven't qualified for the reduction yet and why they are not covering at least one of my scripts. My GP is no help there, says she'll put in a request and then never mentions it again. So I'm going to get the straight goods.Gloria

Hi Gloria

I havent filed income taxes for near 30 years.

Thats just not right that you should EVER be denied your meds for some unrelated reason like taxes.

And 875.00 also blows my mind...every two weeks. Dammmmmmmmm.

How did you manage that one?

God, I hope I dont have to deal with heavy duty problems like you all.

I can just barely face having HCV in the first place.

love

don in ks

From: Gloria <gadamscan (DOT) ca>Subject: [ ] Medications Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 9:25 PM

Hi Everyone:Gotta tell you the saga of me trying to get my meds for the next month for this Clinical Trial.So, this past weekend, I decided that I just did not want to travel from my little city on Vancouver Island, BC, down to the ferry terminal (about a 1-1/4 hr drive), then wait for the ferry (about 1 hr hopefully), to cross over and dock (about 2 hrs) then make my way across to the Vancouver General Hospital (another good 1 hr, providing none of the streets are dug up because of the Olympics) just to try to find a fast parking spot (lots of laughs) to go up to the 5th floor and be handed my meds for the month. Then, because I do not find Vancouver and exciting place to be and everyone I know there are busy this Friday - I'd just be turning around and repeating that trip back home again, except that it's a Friday and likely the ferries would

be backed

up, due to all those people that are willing to spend a gross amount of $$$ just to come a visit the island.On top of that, they should have been given me these meds at the end of July anyway; but, the confidential Pharmaceutical Co has had a horrendous hold up in distribution. In fact, it was only today that the clinician was able to assured these meds would be there by Friday. So, we started hunting an alternative to that longggg drive. For an hour or two, we thought he could catch the shipment and have it sent directly to my Pharmacy here in town. But, because it is already on the way to Vancouver, that couldn't be changed.Then, a client stops by this morning and tells me that his wife his leaving for Vancouver tomorrow to visit her grandchild and it turns out will be just down the road from the clinic. So, finally, I can get my meds!!!!Gloria

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