Re: Want to Chelation But Blood Work Show Strep Issues. What to do?

[Guest guest]

Hi, I would just chelate and worry about the strep later, or as symptoms may

appear. I bet if most of us tested our kids, they would have strep issues too.

My instinct says that most do, but this is because they are overridden by all

kinds of crap because of the deranged minerals that toxic metals cause.

Aluminum, mercury, and lead displace calcium, magnesium, and iron - good food

for strep. Chelation is the best way to get the minerals back to normal so that

the body can adequately deal with the pathogens on its own. That's my opinion.

Liz

>

> Good evening,

>

> I can't believe the timing. We did some blood work to check on viral titers,

liver and kidney function and other immune system checks. At the same time, we

included the ASO and the DNASE-B titers as part of our " normal " blood draw work.

Basically, I wanted a baseline before starting chelation.

>

> Well, we have never had levels hight in the DNASE-B antibody or the

Anti-Streptolysin O (ASO) titers. Here's comes the damn monkey wrench into the

picture..

>

> My son's DNASE-B is 960 High while the ASO is 557 High.

>

> 1. Any recommendations to combat the strep?

>

> 2. Doctor prescribed Zithromax. Does anyone recommend this antibiotic route?

If so, do I just supplement with probiotics and up our yeast protocol?

>

> 3. Any natural recommendations to combat strep?

>

> 4. With this information at hand, I want to start my son's chelation this

weekend. Should I get a handle on this strep issue first prior to starting

chelation?

>

> Thank you in advance,

>

> Jerry

>

[Guest guest]

I have not dealt with PANDAS or chronic strep... but chelate regardless. Small

doses, frequent dosing.

Pam

>

> Good evening,

>

> I can't believe the timing. We did some blood work to check on viral titers,

liver and kidney function and other immune system checks. At the same time, we

included the ASO and the DNASE-B titers as part of our " normal " blood draw work.

Basically, I wanted a baseline before starting chelation.

>

> Well, we have never had levels hight in the DNASE-B antibody or the

Anti-Streptolysin O (ASO) titers. Here's comes the damn monkey wrench into the

picture..

>

> My son's DNASE-B is 960 High while the ASO is 557 High.

>

> 1. Any recommendations to combat the strep?

>

> 2. Doctor prescribed Zithromax. Does anyone recommend this antibiotic route?

If so, do I just supplement with probiotics and up our yeast protocol?

>

> 3. Any natural recommendations to combat strep?

>

> 4. With this information at hand, I want to start my son's chelation this

weekend. Should I get a handle on this strep issue first prior to starting

chelation?

>

> Thank you in advance,

>

> Jerry

>

[Guest guest]

my son is allergic to amoxicillen so every ear infection he ended up on

Zithromax.....he got c-diff which is a result of anitbiotics. Not sure if it was

directly related to zithromax or not.

PWC

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From: RowenaM <jerry_montgomery@...>

Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 11:39:29 PM

Subject: [ ] Want to Chelation But Blood Work Show Strep Issues.

What to do?

 

Good evening,

I can't believe the timing. We did some blood work to check on viral titers,

liver and kidney function and other immune system checks. At the same time, we

included the ASO and the DNASE-B titers as part of our " normal " blood draw work.

Basically, I wanted a baseline before starting chelation.

Well, we have never had levels hight in the DNASE-B antibody or the

Anti-Streptolysin O (ASO) titers. Here's comes the damn monkey wrench into the

picture..

My son's DNASE-B is 960 High while the ASO is 557 High.

1. Any recommendations to combat the strep?

2. Doctor prescribed Zithromax. Does anyone recommend this antibiotic route? If

so, do I just supplement with probiotics and up our yeast protocol?

3. Any natural recommendations to combat strep?

4. With this information at hand, I want to start my son's chelation this

weekend. Should I get a handle on this strep issue first prior to starting

chelation?

Thank you in advance,

Jerry

[Guest guest]

> 1. Any recommendations to combat the strep?

OLE eliminated strep here.

> 2. Doctor prescribed Zithromax. Does anyone recommend this antibiotic route?

If so, do I just supplement with probiotics and up our yeast protocol?

Three rounds of Zithromax did not eliminate strep here. OLE did.

> 3. Any natural recommendations to combat strep?

OLE

> 4. With this information at hand, I want to start my son's chelation this

weekend. Should I get a handle on this strep issue first prior to starting

chelation?

Always start one thing at a time, but you don't have to wait until the strep is

" gone " before chelating. If the yeast overgrowth caused by the OLE/Zithromax is

too difficult to control, wait until you have the yeast under control before you

start chelating.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Good morning, Dana and everyone,

Thank you.

Dana,

Do you still recommend a 250mg dose of OLE to start to treat Strep?

Also, how frequent to I administer OLE? Once, twice, etc per day?

Thank you all,

Jerry

> > 1. Any recommendations to combat the strep?

>

>

> OLE eliminated strep here.

>

>

> > 2. Doctor prescribed Zithromax. Does anyone recommend this antibiotic

route? If so, do I just supplement with probiotics and up our yeast protocol?

>

>

> Three rounds of Zithromax did not eliminate strep here. OLE did.

>

>

> > 3. Any natural recommendations to combat strep?

>

>

> OLE

>

>

> > 4. With this information at hand, I want to start my son's chelation this

weekend. Should I get a handle on this strep issue first prior to starting

chelation?

>

>

> Always start one thing at a time, but you don't have to wait until the strep

is " gone " before chelating. If the yeast overgrowth caused by the OLE/Zithromax

is too difficult to control, wait until you have the yeast under control before

you start chelating.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> Dana,

> Do you still recommend a 250mg dose of OLE to start to treat Strep?

Yes, except for very young child where I would recommend starting with 100mg.

> Also, how frequent to I administer OLE? Once, twice, etc per day?

I started 1x per day, worked up to 3x per day as required.

Dana

[Guest guest]

might want to add in microbials targeting strep 30 minutes after....we did that

and it went well. the lowest dose AC style seemed to do the trick as a biofilm

breaker here....where as ALA alone did nothing to increase poop/slime excretion.

lisa

[Guest guest]

Good morning, ,

Can you give me some recommendations for the microbials?

Thank you,

Jerry

>

> might want to add in microbials targeting strep 30 minutes after....we did

that and it went well. the lowest dose AC style seemed to do the trick as a

biofilm breaker here....where as ALA alone did nothing to increase poop/slime

excretion.

>

>

> lisa

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Good morning, Dana,

Thank you.

Also, my son does not swallow capsules so we have to break open the capsules and

mix in juice or applesauce.

I opened the Olive Leaf Extract (has other items Oregano Oil, etc) and mixed in

some juice for myself. WOW!!! That was potent.

Does OLE only come in capsules?

Any liquid forms of OLE?

What can I do to mask the taste? Mix in a particular juice or mix in

applesauce?

Thank you again,

Jerry

> > Dana,

> > Do you still recommend a 250mg dose of OLE to start to treat Strep?

>

>

> Yes, except for very young child where I would recommend starting with 100mg.

>

>

> > Also, how frequent to I administer OLE? Once, twice, etc per day?

>

>

> I started 1x per day, worked up to 3x per day as required.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> > My son's DNASE-B is 960 High while the ASO is 557 High.

> >

> > 1. Any recommendations to combat the strep?

> >

> > 2. Doctor prescribed Zithromax. Does anyone recommend this antibiotic

route? If so, do I just supplement with probiotics and up our yeast protocol?

We tried a couple rounds of Zithro (3 day course followed by two weekly doses),

but the OCD and mild tics returned.

> > 3. Any natural recommendations to combat strep?

Our homeopath gave us a high-potency homeopathic strep which was helpful for

awhile.

Lumbrokinase enzymes help break up the strep biofilm but can exacerbate symptoms

if you aren't giving something to kill the bacs after. I've used OLE a bit but

I found Phyto-Biotic (a combo herbal) muscle-tested better for him - the

berberine and oregon grape act on strep and the goldenseal is antifungal.

Goldenseal cannot be given continuously though.

> > 4. With this information at hand, I want to start my son's chelation this

weekend. Should I get a handle on this strep issue first prior to starting

chelation?

I think chelation and managing the infections go hand-in-hand. Some speculate

bacterial biofilm (and fungi and viruses) can bind or somehow tie-up metals. A

DAN! doc told me that in her patients the urine toxic metal tests during

chelation are higher when r/x antifungals or antivirals were given. I don't use

DAN! protocol or r/x drugs but tend to give natural antiviral or strep

treatments while chelating, thinking that maybe the chelator will be able to

grab some of those metals. But since our chelator doses are lower, I have been

conservative in dosing the treatments.

> > Thank you in advance,

> >

> > Jerry

> >

Good luck,

Jo

[Guest guest]

Hi Jerry,

Not just want to suggest the nutramedix samento, great antimicrobial, start

slow and see reactions. Muscle test for optimal dose if you can. I have used in

my son (5yo, 44 pounds) at 10 drops 2x day max dose.

Isa

Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

[ ] Re: Want to Chelation But Blood Work Show Strep

Issues. What to do?

Good morning, ,

Can you give me some recommendations for the microbials?

Thank you,

Jerry

>

> might want to add in microbials targeting strep 30 minutes after....we did

that and it went well. the lowest dose AC style seemed to do the trick as a

biofilm breaker here....where as ALA alone did nothing to increase poop/slime

excretion.

>

>

> lisa

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

what are antimicrobial and why would they be used?

PWC

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From: " isaguzmandiaz2@... " <isaguzmandiaz2@...>

Autism mercury group < >

Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 3:55:38 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Want to Chelation But Blood Work Show Strep

Issues. What to do?

Hi Jerry,

Not just want to suggest the nutramedix samento, great antimicrobial, start

slow and see reactions.  Muscle test for optimal dose if you can. I have used in

my son (5yo, 44 pounds) at 10 drops 2x day max dose.

Isa

Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

[ ] Re: Want to Chelation But Blood Work Show Strep

Issues.  What to do?

Good morning, ,

Can you give me some recommendations for the microbials?

Thank you,

Jerry

>

> might want to add in microbials targeting strep 30 minutes after....we did

that and it went well.  the lowest dose AC style seemed to do the trick as a

biofilm breaker here....where as ALA alone did nothing to increase poop/slime

excretion.

>

>

> lisa

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Good morning, Dana,

> I opened the Olive Leaf Extract (has other items Oregano Oil, etc) and mixed

in some juice for myself. WOW!!! That was potent.

OLE tastes nasty, yes.

> Does OLE only come in capsules?

I don't know. I used capsules. You can try to teach your child to swallow

capsules

http://www.danasview.net/capsules.htm

> Any liquid forms of OLE?

I don't know, but if there are, I would suspect they would taste just as nasty.

> What can I do to mask the taste? Mix in a particular juice or mix in

applesauce?

What I did before my kids swallowed capsules, is mix it into peanut butter and

honey. Still tasted nasty tho, I don't know how they were able to eat it!

Dana

[Guest guest]

I just bought the herbpharm liquid olive leaf extract...you put the drops in

water. I tried it yesterday and it doesn't taste bad at all

PWC

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From: danasview <danasview@...>

Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 9:39:22 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Want to Chelation But Blood Work Show Strep

Issues. What to do?

 

> Good morning, Dana,

> I opened the Olive Leaf Extract (has other items Oregano Oil, etc) and mixed

in some juice for myself. WOW!!! That was potent.

OLE tastes nasty, yes.

> Does OLE only come in capsules?

I don't know. I used capsules. You can try to teach your child to swallow

capsules

http://www.danasview.net/capsules.htm

> Any liquid forms of OLE?

I don't know, but if there are, I would suspect they would taste just as nasty.

> What can I do to mask the taste? Mix in a particular juice or mix in

applesauce?

What I did before my kids swallowed capsules, is mix it into peanut butter and

honey. Still tasted nasty tho, I don't know how they were able to eat it!

Dana

[Guest guest]

Good morning, PWC,

Thank you!!!!

Is this at vitamin shoppes or Whole Foods?

Thank you again.

Jerry

> > Good morning, Dana,

> > I opened the Olive Leaf Extract (has other items Oregano Oil, etc) and mixed

in some juice for myself. WOW!!! That was potent.

>

> OLE tastes nasty, yes.

>

> > Does OLE only come in capsules?

>

> I don't know. I used capsules. You can try to teach your child to swallow

capsules

>

> http://www.danasview.net/capsules.htm

>

> > Any liquid forms of OLE?

>

> I don't know, but if there are, I would suspect they would taste just as

nasty.

>

> > What can I do to mask the taste? Mix in a particular juice or mix in

applesauce?

>

> What I did before my kids swallowed capsules, is mix it into peanut butter and

honey. Still tasted nasty tho, I don't know how they were able to eat it!

>

> Dana

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Good morning, Dana,

Thank you again.

Jerry

> > Good morning, Dana,

> > I opened the Olive Leaf Extract (has other items Oregano Oil, etc) and mixed

in some juice for myself. WOW!!! That was potent.

>

>

> OLE tastes nasty, yes.

>

>

> > Does OLE only come in capsules?

>

>

> I don't know. I used capsules. You can try to teach your child to swallow

capsules

>

> http://www.danasview.net/capsules.htm

>

>

> > Any liquid forms of OLE?

>

>

> I don't know, but if there are, I would suspect they would taste just as

nasty.

>

>

> > What can I do to mask the taste? Mix in a particular juice or mix in

applesauce?

>

>

> What I did before my kids swallowed capsules, is mix it into peanut butter and

honey. Still tasted nasty tho, I don't know how they were able to eat it!

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

YEs...whole foods carries it.  I called the mfg and they said for children 1

drop per 4 lbs....I wanted to try it first prior to giving to my son. He is 40

lbs but I think I will start at 4 drops to see how he handles it.

PWC

________________________________

From: RowenaM <jerry_montgomery@...>

Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 9:49:22 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Want to Chelation But Blood Work Show Strep

Issues. What to do?

 

Good morning, PWC,

Thank you!!!!

Is this at vitamin shoppes or Whole Foods?

Thank you again.

Jerry

> > Good morning, Dana,

> > I opened the Olive Leaf Extract (has other items Oregano Oil, etc) and mixed

in some juice for myself. WOW!!! That was potent.

>

> OLE tastes nasty, yes.

>

> > Does OLE only come in capsules?

>

> I don't know. I used capsules. You can try to teach your child to swallow

capsules

>

> http://www.danasview.net/capsules.htm

>

> > Any liquid forms of OLE?

>

> I don't know, but if there are, I would suspect they would taste just as

nasty.

>

> > What can I do to mask the taste? Mix in a particular juice or mix in

applesauce?

>

> What I did before my kids swallowed capsules, is mix it into peanut butter and

honey. Still tasted nasty tho, I don't know how they were able to eat it!

>

> Dana

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>