Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Our daughter used to sleep fairly well through the night until about 3 months ago. She has been waking at night (anywhere between 11pm and 2am) and coming to get into bed with us then going right to sleep, or even worse, getting into bed with us and staying awake for about 2 hours (whispering, giggling, playing in the bed) until falling asleep. We thought her allergies and/or sinuses might be the culprit but we're not so sure now as she is no longer sniffly at night. We thought she was lonely but that doesn't really address the days where she is wide awake from 2am-4am. This happened a year ago when we brought gluten back into her diet. But she hasn't had any gluten in a year and we haven't modified her diet. I think I could handle the getting in bed with us if she went right to sleep. However, the insomnia part has me puzzled. (and sleepy...lol) I'm familiar with melatonin -- she can't swallow pills yet so the time released ones are out. She has no problem getting to sleep so the other type doesn't address the issue. The only thing left to do is to ask the school to not let her nap to see if that makes a difference. She doesn't always nap on the weekends though and that doesn't change her night waking. Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Aren't we in a full moon? Parasites!!!!! Yikes, I know. I'm no pro and I did a protocol on my son (didn't see issues) and we did Humaworm, capsule swallowed. Others will chime in too! Tammy [ ] 5 year old with INSOMNIA! Our daughter used to sleep fairly well through the night until about 3 months ago. She has been waking at night (anywhere between 11pm and 2am) and coming to get into bed with us then going right to sleep, or even worse, getting into bed with us and staying awake for about 2 hours (whispering, giggling, playing in the bed) until falling asleep. We thought her allergies and/or sinuses might be the culprit but we're not so sure now as she is no longer sniffly at night. We thought she was lonely but that doesn't really address the days where she is wide awake from 2am-4am. This happened a year ago when we brought gluten back into her diet. But she hasn't had any gluten in a year and we haven't modified her diet. I think I could handle the getting in bed with us if she went right to sleep. However, the insomnia part has me puzzled. (and sleepy...lol) I'm familiar with melatonin -- she can't swallow pills yet so the time released ones are out. She has no problem getting to sleep so the other type doesn't address the issue. The only thing left to do is to ask the school to not let her nap to see if that makes a difference. She doesn't always nap on the weekends though and that doesn't change her night waking. Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Keep the (sub-lingual) form of melatonin by your bed. She can even chew it. We break the 1 mg tabs in half. If she wakes up give her half a tablet and see if she will go back to sleep. Just because she has no trouble falling asleep doesn't mean you can't try to give the sub-lingual before bed to see if it helps keep her asleep through the night. My son had both problems. He had trouble falling asleep and he would wake up and want to party every two hours. At first he was on a whole milligram tablet. Now we give half a milligram before bed and he falls asleep and sleeps through the night, as well. Melatonin was a Godsend for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 > Our daughter used to sleep fairly well through the night until about 3 months ago. She has been waking at night (anywhere between 11pm and 2am) and coming to get into bed with us then going right to sleep, or even worse, getting into bed with us and staying awake for about 2 hours (whispering, giggling, playing in the bed) until falling asleep. I would first consider: 1.Any new supplements or foods 2.Phenol issues http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm 3.Yeast overgrowth http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Waking up between 1-3am like that usually means liver stress. I would start her on liver support like Milk Thistle or Liver Life. On Wed Jan 5th, 2011 10:07 AM EST danasview wrote: > >> Our daughter used to sleep fairly well through the night until about 3 months ago. She has been waking at night (anywhere between 11pm and 2am) and coming to get into bed with us then going right to sleep, or even worse, getting into bed with us and staying awake for about 2 hours (whispering, giggling, playing in the bed) until falling asleep. > > >I would first consider: > >1.Any new supplements or foods > >2.Phenol issues >http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm > >3.Yeast overgrowth >http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm > >Dana > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 With the giggling and whispering, I would have to go with yeast. My younger boy does that when his yeast flares up, thankfully he stays in his room most of the time now. He used to get up and turn all the light on and wake up the whole house. TJ ________________________________ From: jazzyk298 <jazzyk298@...> Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 5:40:15 AM Subject: [ ] 5 year old with INSOMNIA!  Our daughter used to sleep fairly well through the night until about 3 months ago. She has been waking at night (anywhere between 11pm and 2am) and coming to get into bed with us then going right to sleep, or even worse, getting into bed with us and staying awake for about 2 hours (whispering, giggling, playing in the bed) until falling asleep. We thought her allergies and/or sinuses might be the culprit but we're not so sure now as she is no longer sniffly at night. We thought she was lonely but that doesn't really address the days where she is wide awake from 2am-4am. This happened a year ago when we brought gluten back into her diet. But she hasn't had any gluten in a year and we haven't modified her diet. I think I could handle the getting in bed with us if she went right to sleep. However, the insomnia part has me puzzled. (and sleepy...lol) I'm familiar with melatonin -- she can't swallow pills yet so the time released ones are out. She has no problem getting to sleep so the other type doesn't address the issue. The only thing left to do is to ask the school to not let her nap to see if that makes a difference. She doesn't always nap on the weekends though and that doesn't change her night waking. Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 We get exactly this problem with our son if we slack on the yeast protocol. If we give him his 1 capsule of Candisol and 5 GSE drops just before bedtime we rarely have him waking in the night anymore. Elise in San > > Our daughter used to sleep fairly well through the night until about 3 months ago. She has been waking at night (anywhere between 11pm and 2am) and coming to get into bed with us then going right to sleep, or even worse, getting into bed with us and staying awake for about 2 hours (whispering, giggling, playing in the bed) until falling asleep. > > We thought her allergies and/or sinuses might be the culprit but we're not so sure now as she is no longer sniffly at night. We thought she was lonely but that doesn't really address the days where she is wide awake from 2am-4am. > > This happened a year ago when we brought gluten back into her diet. But she hasn't had any gluten in a year and we haven't modified her diet. > > I think I could handle the getting in bed with us if she went right to sleep. However, the insomnia part has me puzzled. (and sleepy...lol) > > I'm familiar with melatonin -- she can't swallow pills yet so the time released ones are out. She has no problem getting to sleep so the other type doesn't address the issue. > > The only thing left to do is to ask the school to not let her nap to see if that makes a difference. She doesn't always nap on the weekends though and that doesn't change her night waking. > > Any thoughts or suggestions? > > Thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Have you tried using 5-HTP with Melatonin? I don't use the time release kind, I believe Kirkman's has a chewable melatonin but I don't know about the 5-htp. http://aydansrecovery.blogspot.com/ From: elisegraziano66 <elise.graziano@...> Subject: [ ] Re: 5 year old with INSOMNIA! Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 10:48 AM  We get exactly this problem with our son if we slack on the yeast protocol. If we give him his 1 capsule of Candisol and 5 GSE drops just before bedtime we rarely have him waking in the night anymore. Elise in San > > Our daughter used to sleep fairly well through the night until about 3 months ago. She has been waking at night (anywhere between 11pm and 2am) and coming to get into bed with us then going right to sleep, or even worse, getting into bed with us and staying awake for about 2 hours (whispering, giggling, playing in the bed) until falling asleep. > > We thought her allergies and/or sinuses might be the culprit but we're not so sure now as she is no longer sniffly at night. We thought she was lonely but that doesn't really address the days where she is wide awake from 2am-4am. > > This happened a year ago when we brought gluten back into her diet. But she hasn't had any gluten in a year and we haven't modified her diet. > > I think I could handle the getting in bed with us if she went right to sleep. However, the insomnia part has me puzzled. (and sleepy...lol) > > I'm familiar with melatonin -- she can't swallow pills yet so the time released ones are out. She has no problem getting to sleep so the other type doesn't address the issue. > > The only thing left to do is to ask the school to not let her nap to see if that makes a difference. She doesn't always nap on the weekends though and that doesn't change her night waking. > > Any thoughts or suggestions? > > Thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Is she on any adrenal support? If you're chelating and she isn't some kids begin to have a switch in circadian rythm at night. They either don't fall asleep or don't stay asleep. I'd also treat her for parasites. Make sure he's on liver support. For me night wakings are my adrenals..... Jan > > Our daughter used to sleep fairly well through the night until about 3 months ago. She has been waking at night (anywhere between 11pm and 2am) and coming to get into bed with us then going right to sleep, or even worse, getting into bed with us and staying awake for about 2 hours (whispering, giggling, playing in the bed) until falling asleep. > > We thought her allergies and/or sinuses might be the culprit but we're not so sure now as she is no longer sniffly at night. We thought she was lonely but that doesn't really address the days where she is wide awake from 2am-4am. > > This happened a year ago when we brought gluten back into her diet. But she hasn't had any gluten in a year and we haven't modified her diet. > > I think I could handle the getting in bed with us if she went right to sleep. However, the insomnia part has me puzzled. (and sleepy...lol) > > I'm familiar with melatonin -- she can't swallow pills yet so the time released ones are out. She has no problem getting to sleep so the other type doesn't address the issue. > > The only thing left to do is to ask the school to not let her nap to see if that makes a difference. She doesn't always nap on the weekends though and that doesn't change her night waking. > > Any thoughts or suggestions? > > Thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Night waking and giggling mean yeast in our house. x From: mercurybabies2@... Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:25:49 +0000 Subject: [ ] Re: 5 year old with INSOMNIA! Is she on any adrenal support? If you're chelating and she isn't some kids begin to have a switch in circadian rythm at night. They either don't fall asleep or don't stay asleep. I'd also treat her for parasites. Make sure he's on liver support. For me night wakings are my adrenals..... Jan > > Our daughter used to sleep fairly well through the night until about 3 months ago. She has been waking at night (anywhere between 11pm and 2am) and coming to get into bed with us then going right to sleep, or even worse, getting into bed with us and staying awake for about 2 hours (whispering, giggling, playing in the bed) until falling asleep. > > We thought her allergies and/or sinuses might be the culprit but we're not so sure now as she is no longer sniffly at night. We thought she was lonely but that doesn't really address the days where she is wide awake from 2am-4am. > > This happened a year ago when we brought gluten back into her diet. But she hasn't had any gluten in a year and we haven't modified her diet. > > I think I could handle the getting in bed with us if she went right to sleep. However, the insomnia part has me puzzled. (and sleepy...lol) > > I'm familiar with melatonin -- she can't swallow pills yet so the time released ones are out. She has no problem getting to sleep so the other type doesn't address the issue. > > The only thing left to do is to ask the school to not let her nap to see if that makes a difference. She doesn't always nap on the weekends though and that doesn't change her night waking. > > Any thoughts or suggestions? > > Thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 When I had bad insomnia (as in couldn't sleep until 7am), I later figured out my bedroom was contaminated with mold and mildew. Cleaning that up did a lot of good for my sleep schedule (though I was generally extremely ill, so it took a long time to fully fix my sleep issues). I have shared that information with several other people who either had insomnia or had a kid with insomnia. They did a massive clean-up of the bedroom and saw dramatic results. Mold and mildew is more active at night. I think it is really dangerous to sleep near it, so, in defense, people seem to wake up so they aren't as defenseless -- and even find an excuse to leave the area so they aren't as exposed. (I thought I was avoiding the bedroom to avoid my husband, whom I was divorcing. Not so. I was really and truly avoiding the actual bedroom.) HTH. Michele http://www.healthgazelle.com http://www.kidslikemine.com http://www.solanorail.com > > Our daughter used to sleep fairly well through the night until about 3 months ago. She has been waking at night (anywhere between 11pm and 2am) and coming to get into bed with us then going right to sleep, or even worse, getting into bed with us and staying awake for about 2 hours (whispering, giggling, playing in the bed) until falling asleep. > > We thought her allergies and/or sinuses might be the culprit but we're not so sure now as she is no longer sniffly at night. We thought she was lonely but that doesn't really address the days where she is wide awake from 2am-4am. > > This happened a year ago when we brought gluten back into her diet. But she hasn't had any gluten in a year and we haven't modified her diet. > > I think I could handle the getting in bed with us if she went right to sleep. However, the insomnia part has me puzzled. (and sleepy...lol) > > I'm familiar with melatonin -- she can't swallow pills yet so the time released ones are out. She has no problem getting to sleep so the other type doesn't address the issue. > > The only thing left to do is to ask the school to not let her nap to see if that makes a difference. She doesn't always nap on the weekends though and that doesn't change her night waking. > > Any thoughts or suggestions? > > Thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Nice thought but January 4th was the new moon, not the full moon. The next full moon is January 18th. (We had a big solar eclipse yesterday. Those only happen at the new moon. We had a lunar eclipse a couple of weeks earlier in December. Those only happen at the full moon.) Peace. Michele http://www.healthgazelle.com http://www.kidslikemine.com http://www.solanorail.com > > Aren't we in a full moon? Parasites!!!!! Yikes, I know. I'm no pro and I did a protocol on my son (didn't see issues) and we did Humaworm, capsule swallowed. Others will chime in too! > > Tammy > \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 With my son, sleepless nights meant corn. If you haven't already, you might want to try eliminating corn and corn derived ingredients like: high fructose corn syrup, dextrose, modified food starch, natural flavors, corn starch, sorbitol, mannitol, caramel coloring, caramel flavoring, maltodextrin, fructose, glucose, malt, glycerides, MSG, sucrose, etc. Corn is in a lot of Gluten-free mixes, processed foods. Good luck. > > Our daughter used to sleep fairly well through the night until about 3 months ago. She has been waking at night (anywhere between 11pm and 2am) and coming to get into bed with us then going right to sleep, or even worse, getting into bed with us and staying awake for about 2 hours (whispering, giggling, playing in the bed) until falling asleep. > > We thought her allergies and/or sinuses might be the culprit but we're not so sure now as she is no longer sniffly at night. We thought she was lonely but that doesn't really address the days where she is wide awake from 2am-4am. > > This happened a year ago when we brought gluten back into her diet. But she hasn't had any gluten in a year and we haven't modified her diet. > > I think I could handle the getting in bed with us if she went right to sleep. However, the insomnia part has me puzzled. (and sleepy...lol) > > I'm familiar with melatonin -- she can't swallow pills yet so the time released ones are out. She has no problem getting to sleep so the other type doesn't address the issue. > > The only thing left to do is to ask the school to not let her nap to see if that makes a difference. She doesn't always nap on the weekends though and that doesn't change her night waking. > > Any thoughts or suggestions? > > Thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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