Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 Met with the TD client and she is definately committed to trying EEG - I must say i've been seeing more of this or a lesser version of it with my County mental health clients who have been medicated extensively. Klonepin seems to keep showing up. However I notice that when I was explaining the assessment procedure and asked her to repeat a sequence of numbers she goes into facial contorsions and can barely speak. This is for any sequence of more than 2 numbers and might be also for reading and pattern recognition. I'm wondering if I'll be able to do a TLC assessment. This is the second client I've gotten with a numbers deficet - one used to be an accountant prior to injury. Any help - thanking you in advance. debDebaney Lefort <debaney2000@...> wrote: Thanks - I will do an assessment on the new client this week and the regular client is due for a reassessment. deb Van Deusen <pvdtlc@...> wrote: Deb,I would expect, in any kind of movement control issue, that SMR would be an important place to look in your training plan. If you have a disconnect in the assessment, any you see it both in the amplitudes and in the percents, then that is a good place to test first. But surely there will be other options to put on your list as well. Presumably if she was on Paxil, there are mood issues which might be helped by reversal training, especially if the high-beta levels are high. Did you see or test any of those? Also, what is her SMR level at C4/A2 with eyes open? If it is below 10%, I'd certainly try training that up (or at Cz, which may be better for motor issues). If it's fairly high--say above 15%--I'd try training it down.Remember that testing your best options in the beginning of training--running through the full list rather than latching onto the first one--is a much better way of avoiding riding the wrong horse halfway around the track.Pete> > From: Debaney Lefort <debaney2000@...>> Date: 2005/02/26 Sat PM 09:41:08 EST> > Subject: Tartive dyskinesia> > I have a new client with tardive dyskinesia due to Paxil (according to her) and I've also noticed a regual EEG client with TMJ that was resistent to treatment and was starting to look like Tardive dyskinesia too. Anyone with some ideas on this?> The regular client has a pain pattern in her EEG and has fibromyalgia - by pain pattern I mean alpha surges and hi beta "storms" periodically throughout the session. I have tried lots of disconnect and now am adding fp1 M2, 14 Hz up and some Pz or T4PZ arround 9.5 Hz. Did so much disconnect she confided in me that she's been experiencing some incontenance which was my motivation for 14 Hz up on left side. deb> > Van Deusenhttp://www.brain-trainer.com16246 SW 92nd Ave, Miami, FL 33157305/251-0337 or (cellular) 305/321-1595 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Try any kind of short-term memory task: look at a series of cards and then organize the same cards in the same order--or something like that. Pete > > From: Debaney Lefort <debaney2000@...> > Date: 2005/03/02 Wed AM 01:21:21 EST > > Subject: Re: Tardive dyskinesia > > Met with the TD client and she is definately committed to trying EEG - I must say i've been seeing more of this or a lesser version of it with my County mental health clients who have been medicated extensively. Klonepin seems to keep showing up. > However I notice that when I was explaining the assessment procedure and asked her to repeat a sequence of numbers she goes into facial contorsions and can barely speak. This is for any sequence of more than 2 numbers and might be also for reading and pattern recognition. I'm wondering if I'll be able to do a TLC assessment. > This is the second client I've gotten with a numbers deficet - one used to be an accountant prior to injury. Any help - thanking you in advance. deb > > Debaney Lefort <debaney2000@...> wrote: > Thanks - I will do an assessment on the new client this week and the regular client is due for a reassessment. deb > > Van Deusen <pvdtlc@...> wrote: Deb, > > I would expect, in any kind of movement control issue, that SMR would be an important place to look in your training plan. If you have a disconnect in the assessment, any you see it both in the amplitudes and in the percents, then that is a good place to test first. But surely there will be other options to put on your list as well. Presumably if she was on Paxil, there are mood issues which might be helped by reversal training, especially if the high-beta levels are high. Did you see or test any of those? Also, what is her SMR level at C4/A2 with eyes open? If it is below 10%, I'd certainly try training that up (or at Cz, which may be better for motor issues). If it's fairly high--say above 15%--I'd try training it down. > > Remember that testing your best options in the beginning of training--running through the full list rather than latching onto the first one--is a much better way of avoiding riding the wrong horse halfway around the track. > > Pete > > > > > From: Debaney Lefort <debaney2000@...> > > Date: 2005/02/26 Sat PM 09:41:08 EST > > > > Subject: Tartive dyskinesia > > > > I have a new client with tardive dyskinesia due to Paxil (according to her) and I've also noticed a regual EEG client with TMJ that was resistent to treatment and was starting to look like Tardive dyskinesia too. Anyone with some ideas on this? > > The regular client has a pain pattern in her EEG and has fibromyalgia - by pain pattern I mean alpha surges and hi beta " storms " periodically throughout the session. I have tried lots of disconnect and now am adding fp1 M2, 14 Hz up and some Pz or T4PZ arround 9.5 Hz. Did so much disconnect she confided in me that she's been experiencing some incontenance which was my motivation for 14 Hz up on left side. deb > > > > > > Van Deusen > http://www.brain-trainer.com > 16246 SW 92nd Ave, Miami, FL 33157 > 305/251-0337 or (cellular) 305/321-1595 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 My son (now 18) was on Risperdal many years ago and had no unpleasant side effects except a slight difficulty in urination. As I recall, his doctor at the time preferred Risperdal to AVOID tartive dyskinesia... the drug they were most afraid of was Haldol (haloperidol). The reason we finally discontinued Risperdal was for insurance reasons (not covered). He is now on a cocktail of Lithium, Luvox, Clonidone, and Zyprexa, and doing beautifully! Tom Alderman Marietta, GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 , My name is Joy Carey. Do you remember Me? I came to one of your group meetings in August. I live in winder. Please give me a call at home. You have my number. I want to talk to you about your concern on Rusty's meds.Also some other things, I'm starting a support group in Barrow County. You can call me anytime. I'm home all day tomorrow and the weekend.I've got some encouraging info for you. God Bless, Joy Carey > > Has anyone had experience with Tardive Dyskinesia? We noticed our son, Rusty, having some pretty interesting facial expressions that increasingly have gotten worse, and found out this afternoon that he has TD. He was on Risperdal for only about 3 months, is now on Abilify, and the dr. thinks this is what might have caused it. We were weaning him off Risperdal while adding Abilify... his behavior has been much better. If it isn't one thing with our great kids, it's something else! He is now totally off Risperdal. > > HELP.... any words of wisdom or experience would be appreciated. They said it could get better off meds, but it may also get worse. I'd like to hear from someone who has experienced this and what you did. Thanks. > > > Sincerely, > > > Families of Autism/Asperger's Syndrome Care, Educate and Support (F.A.C.E.S.) > contact me at: T50@... > visit our webpage: http://www.georgiafaces.info > > > FIRST STOP: For resources www.parenttoparentofga.org > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 , My name is Joy Carey. Do you remember Me? I came to one of your group meetings in August. I live in winder. Please give me a call at home. You have my number. I want to talk to you about your concern on Rusty's meds.Also some other things, I'm starting a support group in Barrow County. You can call me anytime. I'm home all day tomorrow and the weekend.I've got some encouraging info for you. God Bless, Joy Carey > > Has anyone had experience with Tardive Dyskinesia? We noticed our son, Rusty, having some pretty interesting facial expressions that increasingly have gotten worse, and found out this afternoon that he has TD. He was on Risperdal for only about 3 months, is now on Abilify, and the dr. thinks this is what might have caused it. We were weaning him off Risperdal while adding Abilify... his behavior has been much better. If it isn't one thing with our great kids, it's something else! He is now totally off Risperdal. > > HELP.... any words of wisdom or experience would be appreciated. They said it could get better off meds, but it may also get worse. I'd like to hear from someone who has experienced this and what you did. Thanks. > > > Sincerely, > > > Families of Autism/Asperger's Syndrome Care, Educate and Support (F.A.C.E.S.) > contact me at: T50@... > visit our webpage: http://www.georgiafaces.info > > > FIRST STOP: For resources www.parenttoparentofga.org > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 Administration of the _trace mineral_ (http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C551958.html#G770) _manganese_ (http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C551958.html#G652) (at 15_mg_ (http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C551958.html#G662) per day) may prevent the development of tardive _dyskinesia_ (http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C551958.html#G189) and higher amounts (up to 60mg per day) may reverse tardive dyskinesia that has already developed. [Manganese in dyskinesias. Am J Psychiatry 1976; 133: p.105, Am J Psychiatry 1997; 134: p.1448] found here _http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C551958.html_ (http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C551958.html) Kerrie In a message dated 4/24/2010 4:31:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jhud2@... writes: Hi, does anyone have info. on Tardive Dyskinesia and what possibly can help reverse it, as in supplements or any natural treatments? Thanks, Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 Hi, does anyone have info. on Tardive Dyskinesia and what possibly can help reverse it, as in supplements or any natural treatments? Thanks, Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 http://www.autism.com/autism/behavior/tardiv.htm > > Hi, does anyone have info. on Tardive Dyskinesia and what possibly can help reverse it, > as in supplements or any natural treatments? > Thanks, > Kathy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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