Guest guest Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Hello Haven, I remember Andy answering you that you can use ALA alone....yep. ALA is anyway what most people end up using in their protocols. If you start slow I am sure you will be able to see his tolerance. Isa Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel Re: [ ] Re: ALA alone?????? But can you just start with ALA alone? My son had asthma attacks after IV chelation. He has some kind of sulfur allergy (broccoli give shim hives, but eggs are okay. It's weird). I think Andy said ALA could be used alone, but I'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Hello, Simone! We did 10 rounds with DMSA, then DMSA with ALA until round 24, after which we dropped to just ALA. We are at the highest level for my son's weight, according to the AC protocol. We also do GAPS with BED concepts so there is a lot of natural detox that goes along with these dietary interventions. It has been going very well. My son does very well on round, and we chelate each weekend. We are on round 32, currently. Best wishes, Fiona > > I was wondering if anyone used ALA alone (not with DMSA) and what results if any you were getting and at what dosage. (I am currently using NDF NDF+ and LL with good results) Thanks for all responses. Simone. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Hello, Simone! We did 10 rounds with DMSA, then DMSA with ALA until round 24, after which we dropped to just ALA. We are at the highest level for my son's weight, according to the AC protocol. We also do GAPS with BED concepts so there is a lot of natural detox that goes along with these dietary interventions. It has been going very well. My son does very well on round, and we chelate each weekend. We are on round 32, currently. Best wishes, Fiona > > I was wondering if anyone used ALA alone (not with DMSA) and what results if any you were getting and at what dosage. (I am currently using NDF NDF+ and LL with good results) Thanks for all responses. Simone. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 But can you just start with ALA alone? My son had asthma attacks after IV chelation. He has some kind of sulfur allergy (broccoli give shim hives, but eggs are okay. It's weird). I think Andy said ALA could be used alone, but I'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Ala can be used alone, not an issue, but if your child has lead than DMSA will be needed at some point. > > But can you just start with ALA alone? My son had asthma attacks after IV > chelation. He has some kind of sulfur allergy (broccoli give shim hives, > but eggs are okay. It's weird). > > I think Andy said ALA could be used alone, but I'm not sure. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Yes you can chelate with ALA alone. > Be aware that ALA alone is a bit harder on the adrenals if that is an issue for you. Also, real or potential risk of using ALA right away, due to crossing the BBB. For example, if recent mercury exposure, it is good to delay use of ALA. Simone > > > > ------------------------------------ > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Hi, What is the GAPS and BED concepts? Regards Jene' From: fionasthoughts <fionasthoughts@...> Subject: [ ] Re: ALA alone?????? Date: Saturday, September 4, 2010, 1:15 AM Â Hello, Simone! We did 10 rounds with DMSA, then DMSA with ALA until round 24, after which we dropped to just ALA. We are at the highest level for my son's weight, according to the AC protocol. We also do GAPS with BED concepts so there is a lot of natural detox that goes along with these dietary interventions. It has been going very well. My son does very well on round, and we chelate each weekend. We are on round 32, currently. Best wishes, Fiona > > I was wondering if anyone used ALA alone (not with DMSA) and what results if any you were getting and at what dosage. (I am currently using NDF NDF+ and LL with good results) Thanks for all responses. Simone. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 I also would like to know what the gaps and BEDS concepts are. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Hi, We have used ALA alone since for 15 months now. We have seen wonderful results, starting with round 1. They were subtle at first, it just seemed like we were peaking through the fog at the boy who used to be there. I use 1/8mg per pound of body weight. My understandng of using ALA alone is that it is fine as long as you do not have any dental amalgams, have not had any recent amalgam removal, and have not had any mercury containing vaccines in the past few months. We did not have those, and we had spent months ramping up supportive supplements and milk thistle for liver support. My child is actually better ON round. I was not comfortable with NDF because the ingredients show it contains ALA (lipoic acid) - so your dosing needs to take that into account. It is expensive when you consider ALA costs $8 per 90 capsules. I'm a big fan of herbal medicine, and we use herbs for many things - we use no allopathic meds, no pharmaceuticals, but I wouldn't touch " chelating " herbs, anymore. I've heard too many horror stories and inadvertantly seen the results. When my son first regressed I found a " greens " supplement that I thought would help his pH so I started to give it to him. It contained cilantro. He got worse over time, slowly. Also, if you have any OCD/PANDAS issues this contains strep thermophilus which may exacerbate the condition. > > I was wondering if anyone used ALA alone (not with DMSA) and what results if any you were getting and at what dosage. (I am currently using NDF NDF+ and LL with good results) Thanks for all responses. Simone. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 I am re-reading Andy's book. Somehow my first copy disappeared (along with my sewing kit) when we had to move things to replace our flooring, so I just ordered it again and now I'm reading. We are going to start a home program and this will be the perfect time to to chelate using ALA alone. My son does have OCD, and I don't know if it is PANDAS but he gets strep and staph infections often. I think in PANDAS you see some really bad behaviors, but my son is very mellow and well behaved. He did start to have a lot of anxiety in the school setting over a year ago, and I had to start picking him up earlier and earlier or he would get very upset and start to cry. I think Andy said we could do in trans-dermally by just mixing the contents of an ALA capsule (right dosage of course) with some kind of lotion and rubbing it on his skin. I was thinking about mixing it with pure Aloe Vera gel? Any thoughts, advice or comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Oh yes, that's what we need! A tube of cream with DMSA/ALA that can be applied every 3/4 hours with a little shmear. I'm trying to figure out how my 25yo son will do the a/c protocol while he's out and about- a small pocket tube of cream would sure be better than carrying around pills and water and taking them in public. Can we get Lee Silsby or one of the compounding pharmacies to work on it? a H. > > I am re-reading Andy's book. Somehow my first copy disappeared (along with > my sewing kit) when we had to move things to replace our flooring, so I just > ordered it again and now I'm reading. > > We are going to start a home program and this will be the perfect time to to > chelate using ALA alone. My son does have OCD, and I don't know if it is > PANDAS but he gets strep and staph infections often. I think in PANDAS you > see some really bad behaviors, but my son is very mellow and well behaved. > He did start to have a lot of anxiety in the school setting over a year ago, > and I had to start picking him up earlier and earlier or he would get very > upset and start to cry. > > I think Andy said we could do in trans-dermally by just mixing the contents > of an ALA capsule (right dosage of course) with some kind of lotion and > rubbing it on his skin. I was thinking about mixing it with pure Aloe Vera > gel? Any thoughts, advice or comments? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Let's hope Lee could do it! I'd be up for a tube of ALA compounded with aloe vera! But would still like to hear from someone knowledgeable to know if this would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Andy said " High quality lotion " We do this with our younger boy because he has a real problem with the oral syringe. We mix the ALA with lubriderm lotion and apply every three hours day and night. He is making good progress. TJ ________________________________ From: Haven DeLay <hdelay@...> Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 9:08:55 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: ALA alone?????? I am re-reading Andy's book. Somehow my first copy disappeared (along with my sewing kit) when we had to move things to replace our flooring, so I just ordered it again and now I'm reading. We are going to start a home program and this will be the perfect time to to chelate using ALA alone. My son does have OCD, and I don't know if it is PANDAS but he gets strep and staph infections often. I think in PANDAS you see some really bad behaviors, but my son is very mellow and well behaved. He did start to have a lot of anxiety in the school setting over a year ago, and I had to start picking him up earlier and earlier or he would get very upset and start to cry. I think Andy said we could do in trans-dermally by just mixing the contents of an ALA capsule (right dosage of course) with some kind of lotion and rubbing it on his skin. I was thinking about mixing it with pure Aloe Vera gel? Any thoughts, advice or comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 DMSA doesn't really do too well transdermally because it is susceptible to oxidation. ALA will do just fine by itself. Does your son have any amalgam fillings? If so, you need to get them removed safely before chelation. TJ ________________________________ From: phashmall <PHashmall@...> Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 9:51:56 AM Subject: [ ] Re: ALA alone?????? Oh yes, that's what we need! A tube of cream with DMSA/ALA that can be applied every 3/4 hours with a little shmear. I'm trying to figure out how my 25yo son will do the a/c protocol while he's out and about- a small pocket tube of cream would sure be better than carrying around pills and water and taking them in public. Can we get Lee Silsby or one of the compounding pharmacies to work on it? a H. > > I am re-reading Andy's book. Somehow my first copy disappeared (along with > my sewing kit) when we had to move things to replace our flooring, so I just > ordered it again and now I'm reading. > > We are going to start a home program and this will be the perfect time to to > chelate using ALA alone. My son does have OCD, and I don't know if it is > PANDAS but he gets strep and staph infections often. I think in PANDAS you > see some really bad behaviors, but my son is very mellow and well behaved. > He did start to have a lot of anxiety in the school setting over a year ago, > and I had to start picking him up earlier and earlier or he would get very > upset and start to cry. > > I think Andy said we could do in trans-dermally by just mixing the contents > of an ALA capsule (right dosage of course) with some kind of lotion and > rubbing it on his skin. I was thinking about mixing it with pure Aloe Vera > gel? Any thoughts, advice or comments? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Thanks TJ. No amalgam fillings. So is there any ALA cream that can be purchased? a H. > > > > I am re-reading Andy's book. Somehow my first copy disappeared (along with > > my sewing kit) when we had to move things to replace our flooring, so I just > > ordered it again and now I'm reading. > > > > We are going to start a home program and this will be the perfect time to to > > chelate using ALA alone. My son does have OCD, and I don't know if it is > > PANDAS but he gets strep and staph infections often. I think in PANDAS you > > see some really bad behaviors, but my son is very mellow and well behaved. > > He did start to have a lot of anxiety in the school setting over a year ago, > > and I had to start picking him up earlier and earlier or he would get very > > upset and start to cry. > > > > I think Andy said we could do in trans-dermally by just mixing the contents > > of an ALA capsule (right dosage of course) with some kind of lotion and > > rubbing it on his skin. I was thinking about mixing it with pure Aloe Vera > > gel? Any thoughts, advice or comments? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 TJ, So you'd have to mix each dose separately, at time of application, right? If I emptied some caps into a cream, to last for a few rounds, I wouldn't know how much he should apply each time. Also, where on the body do you apply it? a H. > > Andy said " High quality lotion " > We do this with our younger boy because he has a real problem with the oral > syringe. > We mix the ALA with lubriderm lotion and apply every three hours day and night. > He is making good progress. > TJ > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Haven DeLay <hdelay@...> > > Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 9:08:55 AM > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: ALA alone?????? > > > I am re-reading Andy's book. Somehow my first copy disappeared (along with > my sewing kit) when we had to move things to replace our flooring, so I just > ordered it again and now I'm reading. > > We are going to start a home program and this will be the perfect time to to > chelate using ALA alone. My son does have OCD, and I don't know if it is > PANDAS but he gets strep and staph infections often. I think in PANDAS you > see some really bad behaviors, but my son is very mellow and well behaved. > He did start to have a lot of anxiety in the school setting over a year ago, > and I had to start picking him up earlier and earlier or he would get very > upset and start to cry. > > I think Andy said we could do in trans-dermally by just mixing the contents > of an ALA capsule (right dosage of course) with some kind of lotion and > rubbing it on his skin. I was thinking about mixing it with pure Aloe Vera > gel? Any thoughts, advice or comments? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 What's the oral syringe, and how would you fill and use it? a H. > > Andy said " High quality lotion " > We do this with our younger boy because he has a real problem with the oral > syringe. > We mix the ALA with lubriderm lotion and apply every three hours day and night. > He is making good progress. > TJ > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Haven DeLay <hdelay@...> > > Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 9:08:55 AM > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: ALA alone?????? > > > I am re-reading Andy's book. Somehow my first copy disappeared (along with > my sewing kit) when we had to move things to replace our flooring, so I just > ordered it again and now I'm reading. > > We are going to start a home program and this will be the perfect time to to > chelate using ALA alone. My son does have OCD, and I don't know if it is > PANDAS but he gets strep and staph infections often. I think in PANDAS you > see some really bad behaviors, but my son is very mellow and well behaved. > He did start to have a lot of anxiety in the school setting over a year ago, > and I had to start picking him up earlier and earlier or he would get very > upset and start to cry. > > I think Andy said we could do in trans-dermally by just mixing the contents > of an ALA capsule (right dosage of course) with some kind of lotion and > rubbing it on his skin. I was thinking about mixing it with pure Aloe Vera > gel? Any thoughts, advice or comments? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 I don't know of any. You can have some compounded, but they will want a prescription even though it is considered just an antioxidant. Compounding pharmacies don't do anything without a prescription. TJ ________________________________ From: phashmall <PHashmall@...> Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 12:01:23 PM Subject: [ ] Re: ALA alone?????? Thanks TJ. No amalgam fillings. So is there any ALA cream that can be purchased? a H. > > > > I am re-reading Andy's book. Somehow my first copy disappeared (along with > > my sewing kit) when we had to move things to replace our flooring, so I just > > ordered it again and now I'm reading. > > > > We are going to start a home program and this will be the perfect time to to > > chelate using ALA alone. My son does have OCD, and I don't know if it is > > PANDAS but he gets strep and staph infections often. I think in PANDAS you > > see some really bad behaviors, but my son is very mellow and well behaved. > > He did start to have a lot of anxiety in the school setting over a year ago, > > and I had to start picking him up earlier and earlier or he would get very > > upset and start to cry. > > > > I think Andy said we could do in trans-dermally by just mixing the contents > > of an ALA capsule (right dosage of course) with some kind of lotion and > > rubbing it on his skin. I was thinking about mixing it with pure Aloe Vera > > gel? Any thoughts, advice or comments? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 We mix it at each dose. I suppose you could measure out a certain amount of cream and then put in so many doses, and then split the cream up into that many gobs. I think it would be a little tricky. Unless maybe you could suck it up into an oral syringe and measure it out that way. There must be a way to measure cream besides by the teaspoon. TJ ________________________________ From: phashmall <PHashmall@...> Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 12:05:57 PM Subject: [ ] Re: ALA alone?????? TJ, So you'd have to mix each dose separately, at time of application, right? If I emptied some caps into a cream, to last for a few rounds, I wouldn't know how much he should apply each time. Also, where on the body do you apply it? a H. > > Andy said " High quality lotion " > We do this with our younger boy because he has a real problem with the oral > syringe. > We mix the ALA with lubriderm lotion and apply every three hours day and night. > He is making good progress. > TJ > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Haven DeLay <hdelay@...> > > Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 9:08:55 AM > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: ALA alone?????? > > > I am re-reading Andy's book. Somehow my first copy disappeared (along with > my sewing kit) when we had to move things to replace our flooring, so I just > ordered it again and now I'm reading. > > We are going to start a home program and this will be the perfect time to to > chelate using ALA alone. My son does have OCD, and I don't know if it is > PANDAS but he gets strep and staph infections often. I think in PANDAS you > see some really bad behaviors, but my son is very mellow and well behaved. > He did start to have a lot of anxiety in the school setting over a year ago, > and I had to start picking him up earlier and earlier or he would get very > upset and start to cry. > > I think Andy said we could do in trans-dermally by just mixing the contents > of an ALA capsule (right dosage of course) with some kind of lotion and > rubbing it on his skin. I was thinking about mixing it with pure Aloe Vera > gel? Any thoughts, advice or comments? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 An oral syringe is the way you would give medicine to an infant. They hand them out at the pharmacy when you get antibiotics or some other liquid medicine. For chelation you would mix the ALA, DMSA, or both with some juice, suck it up into the syringe, then squirt it into your child's mouth. Don't forget the treat afterwards! TJ ________________________________ From: phashmall <PHashmall@...> Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 12:06:40 PM Subject: [ ] Re: ALA alone?????? What's the oral syringe, and how would you fill and use it? a H. > > Andy said " High quality lotion " > We do this with our younger boy because he has a real problem with the oral > syringe. > We mix the ALA with lubriderm lotion and apply every three hours day and night. > He is making good progress. > TJ > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Haven DeLay <hdelay@...> > > Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 9:08:55 AM > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: ALA alone?????? > > > I am re-reading Andy's book. Somehow my first copy disappeared (along with > my sewing kit) when we had to move things to replace our flooring, so I just > ordered it again and now I'm reading. > > We are going to start a home program and this will be the perfect time to to > chelate using ALA alone. My son does have OCD, and I don't know if it is > PANDAS but he gets strep and staph infections often. I think in PANDAS you > see some really bad behaviors, but my son is very mellow and well behaved. > He did start to have a lot of anxiety in the school setting over a year ago, > and I had to start picking him up earlier and earlier or he would get very > upset and start to cry. > > I think Andy said we could do in trans-dermally by just mixing the contents > of an ALA capsule (right dosage of course) with some kind of lotion and > rubbing it on his skin. I was thinking about mixing it with pure Aloe Vera > gel? Any thoughts, advice or comments? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 All good ideas, but my son is 25! I'm looking for a small tube of ALA cream that he could take with him in his pocket while he's out and about, or sitting at the computer, to use every 3-4 hours. He doesn't like to be interrupted for much, and having to get up to get water and capsules while in the middle of something, I know isn't going to happen. I'm not always home to dose him. The cream though would be great for the night time use. I could put a dolop on him without waking him. Any place special on the body? a H. > > > > Andy said " High quality lotion " > > We do this with our younger boy because he has a real problem with the oral > > syringe. > > We mix the ALA with lubriderm lotion and apply every three hours day and > night. > > He is making good progress. > > TJ > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Haven DeLay <hdelay@> > > > > Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 9:08:55 AM > > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: ALA alone?????? > > > > > > I am re-reading Andy's book. Somehow my first copy disappeared (along with > > my sewing kit) when we had to move things to replace our flooring, so I just > > ordered it again and now I'm reading. > > > > We are going to start a home program and this will be the perfect time to to > > chelate using ALA alone. My son does have OCD, and I don't know if it is > > PANDAS but he gets strep and staph infections often. I think in PANDAS you > > see some really bad behaviors, but my son is very mellow and well behaved. > > He did start to have a lot of anxiety in the school setting over a year ago, > > and I had to start picking him up earlier and earlier or he would get very > > upset and start to cry. > > > > I think Andy said we could do in trans-dermally by just mixing the contents > > of an ALA capsule (right dosage of course) with some kind of lotion and > > rubbing it on his skin. I was thinking about mixing it with pure Aloe Vera > > gel? Any thoughts, advice or comments? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=VS-1791 & sourceTyp\ e=cs & source=FG & cm_mmc=Shopping%20Engines-_-googleproduct-_-Alpha%20Lipoic%20Acid\ %20Skin%20Cream%20-%202%20Ounces%20Cream%20-%20Glucose%20/%20Sugar%20Support-_-V\ S-1791 & ci_src=14110944 & ci_sku=VS-1791 ________________________________ From: phashmall <PHashmall@...> Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 3:01:23 PM Subject: [ ] Re: ALA alone?????? Â Thanks TJ. No amalgam fillings. So is there any ALA cream that can be purchased? a H. > > > > I am re-reading Andy's book. Somehow my first copy disappeared (along with > > my sewing kit) when we had to move things to replace our flooring, so I just > > ordered it again and now I'm reading. > > > > We are going to start a home program and this will be the perfect time to to > > chelate using ALA alone. My son does have OCD, and I don't know if it is > > PANDAS but he gets strep and staph infections often. I think in PANDAS you > > see some really bad behaviors, but my son is very mellow and well behaved. > > He did start to have a lot of anxiety in the school setting over a year ago, > > and I had to start picking him up earlier and earlier or he would get very > > upset and start to cry. > > > > I think Andy said we could do in trans-dermally by just mixing the contents > > of an ALA capsule (right dosage of course) with some kind of lotion and > > rubbing it on his skin. I was thinking about mixing it with pure Aloe Vera > > gel? Any thoughts, advice or comments? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Interesting! But it has fragrance in it, and probably other things that would make my son itch. We need a clean product, which is easy to dose according to ac protocol. a H. > > > > > > I am re-reading Andy's book. Somehow my first copy disappeared (along with > > > my sewing kit) when we had to move things to replace our flooring, so I just > > > ordered it again and now I'm reading. > > > > > > We are going to start a home program and this will be the perfect time to to > > > chelate using ALA alone. My son does have OCD, and I don't know if it is > > > PANDAS but he gets strep and staph infections often. I think in PANDAS you > > > see some really bad behaviors, but my son is very mellow and well behaved. > > > He did start to have a lot of anxiety in the school setting over a year ago, > > > and I had to start picking him up earlier and earlier or he would get very > > > upset and start to cry. > > > > > > I think Andy said we could do in trans-dermally by just mixing the contents > > > of an ALA capsule (right dosage of course) with some kind of lotion and > > > rubbing it on his skin. I was thinking about mixing it with pure Aloe Vera > > > gel? Any thoughts, advice or comments? > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 We put it on the back or the belly, depending on the way he is sleeping. Legs are fine as well. Make sure you do it every three hours, day and night for at least three days. TJ ________________________________ From: phashmall <PHashmall@...> Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 1:53:01 PM Subject: [ ] Re: ALA alone?????? All good ideas, but my son is 25! I'm looking for a small tube of ALA cream that he could take with him in his pocket while he's out and about, or sitting at the computer, to use every 3-4 hours. He doesn't like to be interrupted for much, and having to get up to get water and capsules while in the middle of something, I know isn't going to happen. I'm not always home to dose him. The cream though would be great for the night time use. I could put a dolop on him without waking him. Any place special on the body? a H. > > > > Andy said " High quality lotion " > > We do this with our younger boy because he has a real problem with the oral > > syringe. > > We mix the ALA with lubriderm lotion and apply every three hours day and > night. > > He is making good progress. > > TJ > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Haven DeLay <hdelay@> > > > > Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 9:08:55 AM > > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: ALA alone?????? > > > > > > I am re-reading Andy's book. Somehow my first copy disappeared (along with > > my sewing kit) when we had to move things to replace our flooring, so I just > > ordered it again and now I'm reading. > > > > We are going to start a home program and this will be the perfect time to to > > chelate using ALA alone. My son does have OCD, and I don't know if it is > > PANDAS but he gets strep and staph infections often. I think in PANDAS you > > see some really bad behaviors, but my son is very mellow and well behaved. > > He did start to have a lot of anxiety in the school setting over a year ago, > > and I had to start picking him up earlier and earlier or he would get very > > upset and start to cry. > > > > I think Andy said we could do in trans-dermally by just mixing the contents > > of an ALA capsule (right dosage of course) with some kind of lotion and > > rubbing it on his skin. I was thinking about mixing it with pure Aloe Vera > > gel? Any thoughts, advice or comments? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 So pure aloe vera gel would not be high quality? It seems to me the lubriderm would contain all kinds of chemicals. I need to know if aloe vera is acceptable. My son has sleep issues and I can't wake him up in the middle of the night. i just want to be able to rub it on every three hours. And he has the problem with sulfa drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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