Re: Dr Kaplan and/or hyperlexia

[Guest guest]

My son is very hyperlexic (read by his 1st birthday) and appears to have no

depth perception and possibly does not see in 3D. Does anyone have any idea how

to treat this?

Caryn

> >

> > Hi Penny,

> >

> > I'm certainly no expert, just a person who has done VT.

> > VT can include a lot of different stuff. It would depend

> > on the practitioner as well as the condition that is being

> > treated. My VT included a lot of vision exercises, some

> > physical exercises (bilateral movement!), eye patching,

> > and a few other things. They also had changes they asked

> > me to make in my desk set up at work, lighting, and

> > reading habits. The VT office I went to (behavioral

> > optomitrist) was very " structured " . They told me at the

> > first check-out visit what would be needed, how long it

> > would take, how much $ it would cost, etc. Very organized.

> >

> > I could not begin to say if VT would help your son, but

> > it is worth getting checked out, once you find a behavioral

> > optomotrist---which I think may not be so easy. I think

> > that most eye docs will not know a thing about VT. I

> > cannot guess how many different eye docs I went to who

> > failed to note the " eye teaming " problems I was having....

> > (I was about 35 when a new eye doc mentioned the issue

> > to me-- so it is not like I hadn't had my eyes checked a lot.)

> > So, look for a behavioral optomitrist. (If you can't find

> > one, write me off-list and I'll give you the number for

> > my doc, and you can call and ask for a referral.) I think

> > the majority of the VT practice is kids with " learning

> > issues " .... I think VT can help (but not always).

> >

> > Also, mercury poisoning causes SEVERAL vision problems and

> > diseases...... check Andy's book if you want more info....

> > in any case, perhaps chelation will help! I don't know

> > about stabismus.

> >

> > best,

> > Moria

> >

> > RESPONDING TO:

> > Message: 20

> > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:04:28 -0500

> > From: Penny Galloup <mcksmom@>

> > Subject: strabismus

> >

> > I know this was recently discussed and I just ignored it because I

> > didn't think it applied to me. My son's eyes occasionally cross,

> > sometimes he does a strange " popeye " sort of squint and recently one eye

> > at a time turns in occasionally. I still didn't think much of it

> > because I didn't know about strabismus until today. I just thought it

> > was a typical autistic stim behavior. My son's teacher asked the school

> > nurse to come in and look at my son's eyes. This is one of the things

> > she suspects could be wrong. I have an appointment with a optometrist

> > next week.

> >

> > He is 4.6 y.o. How can effective can vision therapy be at this point?

> > What exactly will they do? Where do prism lenses come in? If this is

> > the problem and is corrected could I see good changes in his learning

> > habits?

> >

> > I'm sorry for all the questions but this is new to me as of tonight and

> > I would appreciate everyone's input. I read the archives but would

> > still like to hear from all of you that this is pertinent to.

> >

> > Thanks so much.

> >

> > Penny

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My son also has Aspergers and hyperlexic. We tried vision therapy and prism

lenses but it caused visual disturbances to the point where he would get

nauseated every time he wore the glasses. One point I will make is the amazing

results this did for his toe walking.....he could walk flat footed every time he

wore the glasses. He would normally walk on his toes 99% of the time. Im hoping

some day he will be heavy enough were he cannot continue the toe walking. As he

gets older...going on 12 yrs. this is causing great embarrassment for him. So

many ppl don't understand Aspergers syndrome the toe walking is often caused him

much ridicule ....even by his Grandfather and cousins....they are relentless.

This breaks my heart as my son has a heart of gold and doesn't even understand

how his peers can be so cruel to each other let alone hearing it from his

Grandfather. If anyone has some light to what can help him in all area's of his

hyperlexic please let me know. Ive tried everything. He has normal healthy

bowel movements daily so it is not constipation as many believe. Thanks

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From: Caryn_Reid <caryn_reid@...>

Sent: Wed, September 8, 2010 11:17:21 AM

Subject: [ ] RE: Dr Kaplan and/or hyperlexia

My son is very hyperlexic (read by his 1st birthday) and appears to have no

depth perception and possibly does not see in 3D. Does anyone have any idea how

to treat this?

Caryn

> >

> > Hi Penny,

> >

> > I'm certainly no expert, just a person who has done VT.

> > VT can include a lot of different stuff. It would depend

> > on the practitioner as well as the condition that is being

> > treated. My VT included a lot of vision exercises, some

> > physical exercises (bilateral movement!), eye patching,

> > and a few other things. They also had changes they asked

> > me to make in my desk set up at work, lighting, and

> > reading habits. The VT office I went to (behavioral

> > optomitrist) was very " structured " . They told me at the

> > first check-out visit what would be needed, how long it

> > would take, how much $ it would cost, etc. Very organized.

> >

> > I could not begin to say if VT would help your son, but

> > it is worth getting checked out, once you find a behavioral

> > optomotrist---which I think may not be so easy. I think

> > that most eye docs will not know a thing about VT. I

> > cannot guess how many different eye docs I went to who

> > failed to note the " eye teaming " problems I was having....

> > (I was about 35 when a new eye doc mentioned the issue

> > to me-- so it is not like I hadn't had my eyes checked a lot.)

> > So, look for a behavioral optomitrist. (If you can't find

> > one, write me off-list and I'll give you the number for

> > my doc, and you can call and ask for a referral.) I think

> > the majority of the VT practice is kids with " learning

> > issues " .... I think VT can help (but not always).

> >

> > Also, mercury poisoning causes SEVERAL vision problems and

> > diseases...... check Andy's book if you want more info....

> > in any case, perhaps chelation will help! I don't know

> > about stabismus.

> >

> > best,

> > Moria

> >

> > RESPONDING TO:

> > Message: 20

> > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:04:28 -0500

> > From: Penny Galloup <mcksmom@>

> > Subject: strabismus

> >

> > I know this was recently discussed and I just ignored it because I

> > didn't think it applied to me. My son's eyes occasionally cross,

> > sometimes he does a strange " popeye " sort of squint and recently one eye

> > at a time turns in occasionally. I still didn't think much of it

> > because I didn't know about strabismus until today. I just thought it

> > was a typical autistic stim behavior. My son's teacher asked the school

> > nurse to come in and look at my son's eyes. This is one of the things

> > she suspects could be wrong. I have an appointment with a optometrist

> > next week.

> >

> > He is 4.6 y.o. How can effective can vision therapy be at this point?

> > What exactly will they do? Where do prism lenses come in? If this is

> > the problem and is corrected could I see good changes in his learning

> > habits?

> >

> > I'm sorry for all the questions but this is new to me as of tonight and

> > I would appreciate everyone's input. I read the archives but would

> > still like to hear from all of you that this is pertinent to.

> >

> > Thanks so much.

> >

> > Penny

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Caryn,

We couldn't afford the lenses. I went to Wal-Mart, and bought the clear,

colored, plastic dividers and tested him to see which one he preferred. My

son uses the blue one as an over-lay when he is reading, and this helps him

a lot with visual distortions.

I have a visual processing disorder. These are not " eye " problems. It is a

problem in the brain. The brain does not process what the eye sees, and

then will throw out that information. This is called " suppression. " If

this is the problem, glasses will not help.

If the child is young enough, they sometimes will patch the eye without the

processing problem and force the brain to use information from the eye with

the problem. This sometimes gets the brain to turn the processing back on.

My mother chose not to do this, so I have learned to adapt. I have very

poor depth perception. I have to carry a paper in my wallet fro driving.

Since I have one good eye that is 20/25, I can drive.

I adapted. I don't often turn left across a multi-lane road. I turn right,

and then find someplace to turn around safely. If both my eyes are open, my

brain throws out what it perceives with my right eye. So past four feet, I

see the world only with my left eye, and judging distance is more of a

timing thing for me (when I used to jump horses I calculated the horses

stride and the number of feet between jumps and counted the catering beats)

rather than rely on my depth perception.

Take your child to a good ophthalmologist and have him checked for a visual

processing disorder. This can very well be the cause of not seeing in 3D.

This is why I do not like movies in 3D. Those glasses do nothing for me.

I found that by helping my son with the overlays, I helped myself. The blue

overlay helps me see print better, too. It took me many years before I

found a doctor who explained it clearly to me. When I was a kid, most just

shoved prescription glasses at me that did NOTHING to improve my vision.

Hope this helps.

Haven

[Guest guest]

My child had accomodative esotropia, one eye had completely shut down and we had

to do eye-patching just to restore vision to that eye; she was extremely

far-sighted, read words at a very young age, but could not track sentences and

had no depth perception.

Vision therapy restored my child's depth perception and helped her in other ways

(better eye contact, better coordination, better tracking, much faster reading).

It required a lot of work (helping her do daily eye exercises) as well as

in-office time (so not cheap, either), but it was quite helpful.

Be sure to find a practitioner with a good reputation--as in all cases, there

are good practitioners and others who are not. My daughter's vision has also

significantly improved with age and mercury detox using Cutler's protocol.

Sue

>

> My son is very hyperlexic (read by his 1st birthday) and appears to have no

depth perception and possibly does not see in 3D. Does anyone have any idea how

to treat this?

>

> Caryn

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you. We are going to see Dr Kaplan next month. I wanted to see him b/c I

have seen someone else and she could not even examine my son as he does not

cooperate.

I have lost depth perception as well, in recent years since having my son.

>

> Caryn,

>

> We couldn't afford the lenses. I went to Wal-Mart, and bought the clear,

> colored, plastic dividers and tested him to see which one he preferred. My

> son uses the blue one as an over-lay when he is reading, and this helps him

> a lot with visual distortions.

>

> I have a visual processing disorder. These are not " eye " problems. It is a

> problem in the brain. The brain does not process what the eye sees, and

> then will throw out that information. This is called " suppression. " If

> this is the problem, glasses will not help.

>

> If the child is young enough, they sometimes will patch the eye without the

> processing problem and force the brain to use information from the eye with

> the problem. This sometimes gets the brain to turn the processing back on.

> My mother chose not to do this, so I have learned to adapt. I have very

> poor depth perception. I have to carry a paper in my wallet fro driving.

> Since I have one good eye that is 20/25, I can drive.

>

> I adapted. I don't often turn left across a multi-lane road. I turn right,

> and then find someplace to turn around safely. If both my eyes are open, my

> brain throws out what it perceives with my right eye. So past four feet, I

> see the world only with my left eye, and judging distance is more of a

> timing thing for me (when I used to jump horses I calculated the horses

> stride and the number of feet between jumps and counted the catering beats)

> rather than rely on my depth perception.

>

> Take your child to a good ophthalmologist and have him checked for a visual

> processing disorder. This can very well be the cause of not seeing in 3D.

> This is why I do not like movies in 3D. Those glasses do nothing for me.

>

> I found that by helping my son with the overlays, I helped myself. The blue

> overlay helps me see print better, too. It took me many years before I

> found a doctor who explained it clearly to me. When I was a kid, most just

> shoved prescription glasses at me that did NOTHING to improve my vision.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Haven

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for replying. My son stopped toe walking once we removed foods he was

allergic to (CLO and fruit) and also from treating bartonella. I think lots of

aspies (and ASD kids) have this. There are many natural remedies for this

infection but resveratrol seemed to help us the most with bartonella symptoms -

including toe walking and poor play skills.

Caryn

> > >

> > > Hi Penny,

> > >

> > > I'm certainly no expert, just a person who has done VT.

> > > VT can include a lot of different stuff. It would depend

> > > on the practitioner as well as the condition that is being

> > > treated. My VT included a lot of vision exercises, some

> > > physical exercises (bilateral movement!), eye patching,

> > > and a few other things. They also had changes they asked

> > > me to make in my desk set up at work, lighting, and

> > > reading habits. The VT office I went to (behavioral

> > > optomitrist) was very " structured " . They told me at the

> > > first check-out visit what would be needed, how long it

> > > would take, how much $ it would cost, etc. Very organized.

> > >

> > > I could not begin to say if VT would help your son, but

> > > it is worth getting checked out, once you find a behavioral

> > > optomotrist---which I think may not be so easy. I think

> > > that most eye docs will not know a thing about VT. I

> > > cannot guess how many different eye docs I went to who

> > > failed to note the " eye teaming " problems I was having....

> > > (I was about 35 when a new eye doc mentioned the issue

> > > to me-- so it is not like I hadn't had my eyes checked a lot.)

> > > So, look for a behavioral optomitrist. (If you can't find

> > > one, write me off-list and I'll give you the number for

> > > my doc, and you can call and ask for a referral.) I think

> > > the majority of the VT practice is kids with " learning

> > > issues " .... I think VT can help (but not always).

> > >

> > > Also, mercury poisoning causes SEVERAL vision problems and

> > > diseases...... check Andy's book if you want more info....

> > > in any case, perhaps chelation will help! I don't know

> > > about stabismus.

> > >

> > > best,

> > > Moria

> > >

> > > RESPONDING TO:

> > > Message: 20

> > > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:04:28 -0500

> > > From: Penny Galloup <mcksmom@>

> > > Subject: strabismus

> > >

> > > I know this was recently discussed and I just ignored it because I

> > > didn't think it applied to me. My son's eyes occasionally cross,

> > > sometimes he does a strange " popeye " sort of squint and recently one eye

> > > at a time turns in occasionally. I still didn't think much of it

> > > because I didn't know about strabismus until today. I just thought it

> > > was a typical autistic stim behavior. My son's teacher asked the school

> > > nurse to come in and look at my son's eyes. This is one of the things

> > > she suspects could be wrong. I have an appointment with a optometrist

> > > next week.

> > >

> > > He is 4.6 y.o. How can effective can vision therapy be at this point?

> > > What exactly will they do? Where do prism lenses come in? If this is

> > > the problem and is corrected could I see good changes in his learning

> > > habits?

> > >

> > > I'm sorry for all the questions but this is new to me as of tonight and

> > > I would appreciate everyone's input. I read the archives but would

> > > still like to hear from all of you that this is pertinent to.

> > >

> > > Thanks so much.

> > >

> > > Penny

> > >

> >

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