Need help - which chelation?

[Guest guest]

Hello group,

 

Our DAN doctor prescribed DMPS drops - 15 drops topically as a means of getting

the metals out. I have been reading from the board about the AC method. So I am

torn as to which method to use. HAs anyone tried the DMPS drops? Is is

effective? Where can I read up on the AC protocol. Thansk guys. Want to start

chelation next weekend, need all the information I can find.

[Guest guest]

Florence,

You can certainly use DMPS as a chelator safely to remove metals, but DMPS won't

remove the metals from the brain, so at some point you would want to add ALA.

Like any chelator, DMPS should be dosed based on it's half-life, which is 8

hours. So, I'm not sure how big your child is, but a dose of maybe 4 drops,

every 8 hours would be a reasonable way to start. If you have been told every

other day, do know that with that chelation schedule regression was actually

expected, and even named " horns and tail " as if regressing is some sort of cute

outcome. The regressions I've read about are not cute in any way. Developing

more extreme metal problems because redistribution has allowed more metals into

places like your CNS is serious, not cute.

If you look here http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/ you can read about the AC

protocol. If you look in the files under supplements you can read about Andy's

recommended supplements.

Dosing every 8 hours is very easy--you don't lose sleep and you can even do

fairly long rounds because the 8 hours schedule won't interfere with school or

work. I would never recommend to anyone that they dose dmps at longer

intervals.

Anita

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> Hello group,

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> Our DAN doctor prescribed DMPS drops - 15 drops topically as a means of

getting the metals out. I have been reading from the board about the AC method.

So I am torn as to which method to use. HAs anyone tried the DMPS drops? Is is

effective? Where can I read up on the AC protocol. Thansk guys. Want to start

chelation next weekend, need all the information I can find.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Anita

From: mysuperteach <mysuperteach@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Need help - which chelation?

Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 7:14 PM

Florence,

You can certainly use DMPS as a chelator safely to remove metals, but DMPS won't

remove the metals from the brain, so at some point you would want to add

ALA.   Like any chelator, DMPS should be dosed based on it's half-life, which is

8 hours.  So, I'm not sure how big your child is, but a dose of maybe 4 drops,

every 8 hours would be a reasonable way to start.  If you have been told every

other day, do know that with that chelation schedule regression was actually

expected, and even named " horns and tail " as if regressing is some sort of cute

outcome.  The regressions I've read about are not cute in any way.   Developing

more extreme metal problems because redistribution has allowed more metals into

places like your CNS is serious, not cute. 

If you look here http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/ you can read about the AC

protocol.  If you look in the files under supplements you can read about Andy's

recommended supplements.

Dosing every 8 hours is very easy--you don't lose sleep and you can even do

fairly long rounds because the 8 hours schedule won't interfere with school or

work.  I would never recommend to anyone that they dose dmps at longer

intervals.

Anita

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> Hello group,

>  

> Our DAN doctor prescribed DMPS drops - 15 drops topically as a means of

getting the metals out. I have been reading from the board about the AC method.

So I am torn as to which method to use. HAs anyone tried the DMPS drops? Is is

effective? Where can I read up on the AC protocol. Thansk guys. Want to start

chelation next weekend, need all the information I can find.

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[Guest guest]

Must I do a hair test first and if so where do I go for testing?

From: mysuperteach <mysuperteach@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Need help - which chelation?

Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 7:14 PM

Florence,

You can certainly use DMPS as a chelator safely to remove metals, but DMPS won't

remove the metals from the brain, so at some point you would want to add

ALA.   Like any chelator, DMPS should be dosed based on it's half-life, which is

8 hours.  So, I'm not sure how big your child is, but a dose of maybe 4 drops,

every 8 hours would be a reasonable way to start.  If you have been told every

other day, do know that with that chelation schedule regression was actually

expected, and even named " horns and tail " as if regressing is some sort of cute

outcome.  The regressions I've read about are not cute in any way.   Developing

more extreme metal problems because redistribution has allowed more metals into

places like your CNS is serious, not cute. 

If you look here http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/ you can read about the AC

protocol.  If you look in the files under supplements you can read about Andy's

recommended supplements.

Dosing every 8 hours is very easy--you don't lose sleep and you can even do

fairly long rounds because the 8 hours schedule won't interfere with school or

work.  I would never recommend to anyone that they dose dmps at longer

intervals.

Anita

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> Hello group,

>  

> Our DAN doctor prescribed DMPS drops - 15 drops topically as a means of

getting the metals out. I have been reading from the board about the AC method.

So I am torn as to which method to use. HAs anyone tried the DMPS drops? Is is

effective? Where can I read up on the AC protocol. Thansk guys. Want to start

chelation next weekend, need all the information I can find.

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[Guest guest]

You don't have to do a hair test but the results help you have a better idea

what you're dealing with (lead? mercury? arsenic?) which may influence your

decisions regarding which chelator(s) to use. It can also help you search for

and remove sources of exposure. You can order a DDI (Doctor's Data, Inc.) hair

elements test without a doctor through DLS (Direct Lab Services). If you

mention this group they'll give you a discount. If you post results here we can

help interpret the results.

S S

Re: Need help - which chelation?

Posted by: " florence george " ethelgeorge@... worogbe

Sat May 15, 2010 10:27 am (PDT)

Must I do a hair test first and if so where do I go for testing?

[Guest guest]

We've followed DAN advice like IV DMPS (thankfully only twice) and suppositories

and fortunately learned about AC chelation before messing up too much. We saw

limited positives and unpredictable negatives like uncontrollable yeast, food

reactions, irritability emerging. I have been on various boards for the past

two years and have not seen any testimonials for transdermal DMPS drops. The

reason I switched to AC protocol was because I couldn't find anyone whose kids

FULLY recovered (no supplements, no diet, no support) using DAN chelation, but

plenty of posts seeking help for new behaviors or issues.

Meanwhile there are lots of parents seeing gains from AC chelation and some nice

full recovery stories. It is a lot easier to get good support from people who

have used the same protocol - fewer unknowns and variables. It is easier to

stop. I believe chelation is one area where parents can do real damage by using

high doses or doing things inappropriately.

We had good results with oral DMPS every six hours, and now use DMPS+ALA or

DMSA+ALA or just plain ALA, all orally using Cutler frequent low dosage

protocol. Yeast control and antioxidants are very important, as is immune

support if using DMSA.

Good luck,

Jo

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> Our Dan doctor prescribed DMPS drops (15 drops topically every other day) for

my child as a way of getting the metals out. I have read through the posts about

AC chelation. I am torn as to which one to use. HAs anyone tried the drops? How

effective is it. Where can I get information on the AC protocol. Need all

information as I would like to start to chelate next weekend.

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> Thanks guys for your help.

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