Re: Night time clothes chewing

[Guest guest]

My son also chews his clothes (loves textiles). I have also noticed that

it is less the week during the full moon. He does not have parasites,

his iron and zinc levels are great - which is the first thing you look at

with PICA. According to my sons doctor, he said that he has tried

several things with the kids and nothing seems to stand out as a solid

treatment. He thinks it is more behavioral with my son. In other words,

kind of learn to live with it.... sigh. One of the things we are

doing aggresively again is yeast treatments - because the only time my

son hardly ever chewed was about 4 months into an aggressive yeast

treatment protocal......

I will watch to see what other post..... Maybe they have answers.

Martha

Night time clothes chewing

Posted by: " aussiepipe " mzizikenya@... aussiepipe

Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:27 pm (PST)

This one has been going on for a year or more and is really frustrating

me. My daughter (ASD, 7 years, AC chelation approx. 100 rounds) chews all

her pajama tops at night time. Sometimes a T-shirt can be ruined in a

night. She rarely chews during the day time (unless she has a top with

buttons or frills/ribbons just crying out to be chewed!). At various

times we have supplemented zinc to the lb + 20 that is talked about (and

I think even higher) and it doesn't seem to make any difference that I

can tell. It does come and go though and some nights are much worse than

others and there can also be a period of a few days or so where she isn't

chewing. Is it possible that this is worms??? It was quite bad last week

(new moon?) but seems to have settled down somewhat this week. Yeast?

We've done lots of OoO, GSE, biotin etc... and again nothing seems to

have an effect.

Thanks for any help,

Jenene.

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[Guest guest]

It could be another mineral she is defficient in. My son has sporadically gone

through this. Once when I was giving him GSE too close to his multi the chewing

started again when we hadnt seen this behavior in awhile. When I realized what

we were doing and gave him some extra mineral supplements it went away. Many say

zinc but I dont think zinc was the case here. Sorry I cant tell you wich

specific mineral it was.

>

> This one has been going on for a year or more and is really frustrating me.

My daughter (ASD, 7 years, AC chelation approx. 100 rounds) chews all her pajama

tops at night time. Sometimes a T-shirt can be ruined in a night. She rarely

chews during the day time (unless she has a top with buttons or frills/ribbons

just crying out to be chewed!). At various times we have supplemented zinc to

the lb + 20 that is talked about (and I think even higher) and it doesn't seem

to make any difference that I can tell. It does come and go though and some

nights are much worse than others and there can also be a period of a few days

or so where she isn't chewing. Is it possible that this is worms??? It was

quite bad last week (new moon?) but seems to have settled down somewhat this

week. Yeast? We've done lots of OoO, GSE, biotin etc... and again nothing

seems to have an effect.

> Thanks for any help,

> Jenene.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks. I have wondered if it is another mineral but which one is the question.

The only one that is ever mentioned seems to be zinc. I may have to change some

things I guess and see if it makes any difference.

Jenene

> >

> > This one has been going on for a year or more and is really frustrating me.

My daughter (ASD, 7 years, AC chelation approx. 100 rounds) chews all her pajama

tops at night time. Sometimes a T-shirt can be ruined in a night. She rarely

chews during the day time (unless she has a top with buttons or frills/ribbons

just crying out to be chewed!). At various times we have supplemented zinc to

the lb + 20 that is talked about (and I think even higher) and it doesn't seem

to make any difference that I can tell. It does come and go though and some

nights are much worse than others and there can also be a period of a few days

or so where she isn't chewing. Is it possible that this is worms??? It was

quite bad last week (new moon?) but seems to have settled down somewhat this

week. Yeast? We've done lots of OoO, GSE, biotin etc... and again nothing

seems to have an effect.

> > Thanks for any help,

> > Jenene.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> This one has been going on for a year or more and is really frustrating me.

My daughter (ASD, 7 years, AC chelation approx. 100 rounds) chews all her pajama

tops at night time. Sometimes a T-shirt can be ruined in a night. She rarely

chews during the day time (unless she has a top with buttons or frills/ribbons

just crying out to be chewed!).

Chewing at my house, daytime and nighttime, meant yeast overgrowth.

Dana

[Guest guest]

My son does the same thing. Almost constantly. Why not Threelac for yeast? I

haven't seen anyone recommend it here.

Monika

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From: danasview <danasview@...>

Sent: Thu, January 13, 2011 6:39:52 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Night time clothes chewing

> This one has been going on for a year or more and is really frustrating me.

My

>daughter (ASD, 7 years, AC chelation approx. 100 rounds) chews all her pajama

>tops at night time. Sometimes a T-shirt can be ruined in a night. She rarely

>chews during the day time (unless she has a top with buttons or frills/ribbons

>just crying out to be chewed!).

Chewing at my house, daytime and nighttime, meant yeast overgrowth.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Most of the time, the chewing on clothes is more due to anxiety, and she may be

doing it to help her fall asleep. You can rule out yeast overgrowth and

parasites, but if that will be the case, she will do this also during the day.

Have you try giving her something to help her relax and go to sleep at night

time, like melatonin, GABA or 5HTP???

The chewing due to zinc deficiency is not only on a particular object, most of

the time kids that have a zinc deficiency chew on everything. And when is a

mineral deficiency, they tend to chew on metallic things or they put stuff like

paper, chalk, play dough and other things on their mouth.

>

> This one has been going on for a year or more and is really frustrating me.

My daughter (ASD, 7 years, AC chelation approx. 100 rounds) chews all her pajama

tops at night time. Sometimes a T-shirt can be ruined in a night. She rarely

chews during the day time (unless she has a top with buttons or frills/ribbons

just crying out to be chewed!). At various times we have supplemented zinc to

the lb + 20 that is talked about (and I think even higher) and it doesn't seem

to make any difference that I can tell. It does come and go though and some

nights are much worse than others and there can also be a period of a few days

or so where she isn't chewing. Is it possible that this is worms??? It was

quite bad last week (new moon?) but seems to have settled down somewhat this

week. Yeast? We've done lots of OoO, GSE, biotin etc... and again nothing

seems to have an effect.

> Thanks for any help,

> Jenene.

>

[Guest guest]

We actually used threelac religiously for about 4 years. We have only cut down

on it in about the last 6 months and rarely give it now (no effect on the

chewing either way). It is still the first thing we reach for when one of us

has upset stomach/diarrhea.

Jenene

> > This one has been going on for a year or more and is really frustrating me.

My

> >daughter (ASD, 7 years, AC chelation approx. 100 rounds) chews all her pajama

> >tops at night time. Sometimes a T-shirt can be ruined in a night. She

rarely

> >chews during the day time (unless she has a top with buttons or

frills/ribbons

> >just crying out to be chewed!).

>

> Chewing at my house, daytime and nighttime, meant yeast overgrowth.

>

> Dana

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We do give melatonin. Still may be anxiety though.

Not chewing on metallic stuff but the thing that she does like to eat/lick

during the day is stuff like glue, soap and detergent. This is another

behaviour that I would like to find the cause of. Any ideas?

Jenene

> >

> > This one has been going on for a year or more and is really frustrating me.

My daughter (ASD, 7 years, AC chelation approx. 100 rounds) chews all her pajama

tops at night time. Sometimes a T-shirt can be ruined in a night. She rarely

chews during the day time (unless she has a top with buttons or frills/ribbons

just crying out to be chewed!). At various times we have supplemented zinc to

the lb + 20 that is talked about (and I think even higher) and it doesn't seem

to make any difference that I can tell. It does come and go though and some

nights are much worse than others and there can also be a period of a few days

or so where she isn't chewing. Is it possible that this is worms??? It was

quite bad last week (new moon?) but seems to have settled down somewhat this

week. Yeast? We've done lots of OoO, GSE, biotin etc... and again nothing

seems to have an effect.

> > Thanks for any help,

> > Jenene.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

What kind of fabric are her pajama tops made of? Are they treated with flame

retardant? Do they have a higher neckline than most of her clothes? Are they

sewn with the (horrible) plastic thread?

S S

Night time clothes chewing

Posted by: " aussiepipe " mzizikenya@... aussiepipe

Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:27 pm (PST)

This one has been going on for a year or more and is really frustrating me. My

daughter (ASD, 7 years, AC chelation approx. 100 rounds) chews all her pajama

tops at night time. Sometimes a T-shirt can be ruined in a night. She rarely

chews during the day time (unless she has a top with buttons or frills/ribbons

just crying out to be chewed!). At various times we have supplemented zinc to

the lb + 20 that is talked about (and I think even higher) and it doesn't seem

to make any difference that I can tell. It does come and go though and some

nights are much worse than others and there can also be a period of a few days

or so where she isn't chewing. Is it possible that this is worms??? It was quite

bad last week (new moon?) but seems to have settled down somewhat this week.

Yeast? We've done lots of OoO, GSE, biotin etc... and again nothing seems to

have an effect.

Thanks for any help,

Jenene.

[Guest guest]

Pica is often due to not getting enough of certain nutrients. Mercury toxicity

causes the body to be unable to properly use nutrients. Is she on digestive

enzymes? Many here (myself included) use Houston Enzymes (HNI) which are gfcf.

S S

[Guest guest]

In my sons case, he is on a full range of supplements including enzymes.

It doesn't matter what he is wearing - whether it is high necked, tank

top, etc. I prefer to put him in cotton shirts at night - so that if he

is going to eat them, they are not polyester etc...

We had stopped the ALA and perhaps that is the missing link. I was going

to re-introduce that,except that we have made so many changes recently

that I need to stop and let him have time to catch up.

Martha

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[Guest guest]

I agree. We have done the full range of supplements including enzymes for many

years. Not currently on too many - since having done so many rounds of

chelation - but it doesn't seem to make a difference either

way(increase/decrease in chewing).

As for pj's we use old T-shirts so no flame retardants, polyesters or anything

different to normal.

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. We will keep trying different things

(more minerals, more yeast stuff etc..).

Jenene

>

>

> In my sons case, he is on a full range of supplements including enzymes.

> It doesn't matter what he is wearing - whether it is high necked, tank

> top, etc. I prefer to put him in cotton shirts at night - so that if he

> is going to eat them, they are not polyester etc...

>

> We had stopped the ALA and perhaps that is the missing link. I was going

> to re-introduce that,except that we have made so many changes recently

> that I need to stop and let him have time to catch up.

>

> Martha

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>

[Guest guest]

Here we had to up the zinc.  It needed to be zinc picolinate and we were doing

three times my daughter's weight - she was 50 lbs and we needed to go to 150 mg

every day, spaced out.  Yeast would also make it worse, so you need to keep the

yeast protocol going, but my dd required enormous amounts of zinc.

Janelle

> This one has been going on for a year or more and is really frustrating me. My

>daughter (ASD, 7 years, AC chelation approx. 100 rounds) chews all her pajama

>tops at night time. Sometimes a T-shirt can be ruined in a night. She rarely

>chews during the day time (unless she has a top with buttons or frills/ribbons

>just crying out to be chewed!).

Chewing at my house, daytime and nighttime, meant yeast overgrowth.

Dana

[Guest guest]

It's magnesium. Give him a magnesium supplement with fresh spinach and he will

improve dramatically.

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From: Curran <lizcurran70@...>

Sent: Thu, January 13, 2011 2:21:42 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Night time clothes chewing

It could be another mineral she is defficient in. My son has sporadically gone

through this. Once when I was giving him GSE too close to his multi the chewing

started again when we hadnt seen this behavior in awhile. When I realized what

we were doing and gave him some extra mineral supplements it went away. Many say

zinc but I dont think zinc was the case here. Sorry I cant tell you wich

specific mineral it was.

>

> This one has been going on for a year or more and is really frustrating me.

My

>daughter (ASD, 7 years, AC chelation approx. 100 rounds) chews all her pajama

>tops at night time. Sometimes a T-shirt can be ruined in a night. She rarely

>chews during the day time (unless she has a top with buttons or frills/ribbons

>just crying out to be chewed!). At various times we have supplemented zinc to

>the lb + 20 that is talked about (and I think even higher) and it doesn't seem

>to make any difference that I can tell. It does come and go though and some

>nights are much worse than others and there can also be a period of a few days

>or so where she isn't chewing. Is it possible that this is worms??? It was

>quite bad last week (new moon?) but seems to have settled down somewhat this

>week. Yeast? We've done lots of OoO, GSE, biotin etc... and again nothing

>seems to have an effect.

>

> Thanks for any help,

> Jenene.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks. This is an easy one to try. We were actually just talking today about

giving some more magnesium to help with relaxing before bed. What does the

fresh spinach do?

Jenene

>

> It's magnesium. Give him a magnesium supplement with fresh spinach and he

will

> improve dramatically.

>

[Guest guest]

I have not started chelating yet (still trying to get someone to help his

adrenals) but my son started chewing on his hair non stop, I was wondering about

zinc also. His sensory issues have gone off the rictor scale last 6 months or

so, trying to figure out why, was told inflammation or bartonella, but he cant

tolerate hair cutting/finger nails etc, screams like it hurts deathly. So his

hair is long now and he chews it non stop...

> > This one has been going on for a year or more and is really frustrating me.

My

>

> >daughter (ASD, 7 years, AC chelation approx. 100 rounds) chews all her pajama

> >tops at night time. Sometimes a T-shirt can be ruined in a night. She rarely

> >chews during the day time (unless she has a top with buttons or

frills/ribbons

> >just crying out to be chewed!).

>

> Chewing at my house, daytime and nighttime, meant yeast overgrowth.

>

> Dana

>