Guest guest Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 To All: This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to let everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and we're doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more colds, flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15 months!!) and for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.: " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant, glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. " Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other than what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day. Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of Vit D3 (you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified by the top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly dead in a multi): - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills or Culturelle or what-not. - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood. - Vit C (time-released from GNC) - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other reasons) - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue. - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up on 'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em). Some of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile issues disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies a few months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time. Nerve Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key ones for nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as long as taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to take it for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned that day) until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native Remedies and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now! - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it) - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be GSE, anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc. This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a KEY factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products ... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5 other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories). Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3 is ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also. To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I sometimes take 50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down to 10K the next day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K iu's a day. If you have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then that is your problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can overdose on Vit D3 easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day and that's nearly impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do that!!! Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun. We get 20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day, in the summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math, please, and do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A (in Cod Liver Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3. My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or leave it 'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting results or not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the ALA schedule often enough or ... If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise, spead the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council website. You all can read. Happy New Year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 p.s. I forgot to mention that weekly neurofeedback was a big factor, too, as well as yoga, Tai Chi, and meditation. And, cutting out milk/dairy and going mostly organic and limiting grains. No HFCS, no chocolate, no caffeine. Lots of healthy water. More greens and fruits. You get the picture. Some kids can't handle all of that, obviously, just yet. So, keep in mind that this is working for US ... right NOW. And, 2 years ago, we had to do melatonin at night and then got rid of that with the home Proteus unit (google it) --- which was only needed for about a month and still no more nighttime sleep aids are needed anymore. But, we keep the Proteus unit for other reasons. Well, both kids and I still love white noise machines for falling asleep, to be honest. > > To All: > > This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to let everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and we're doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more colds, flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15 months!!) and for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.: > > " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant, glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. " > > Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml > > The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other than what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day. > Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of Vit D3 (you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified by the top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly dead in a multi): > > - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills or Culturelle or what-not. > - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood. > - Vit C (time-released from GNC) > - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other reasons) > - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue. > - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals > - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up on 'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em). Some of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile issues disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies a few months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time. Nerve Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key ones for nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as long as taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to take it for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned that day) until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native Remedies and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now! > - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it) > - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be GSE, anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc. > > This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a KEY factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products .... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5 other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories). > > Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3 is ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also. > > To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I sometimes take 50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down to 10K the next day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K iu's a day. If you have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then that is your problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can overdose on Vit D3 easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day and that's nearly impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do that!!! > > Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun. We get 20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day, in the summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math, please, and do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A (in Cod Liver Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3. > > My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or leave it 'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting results or not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the ALA schedule often enough or ... > > If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise, spead the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council website. You all can read. > > Happy New Year! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 I want to let everyone know that NP had us test 's D3 levels and he was still near having rickets after being on a high dose of NOW Brand Vit D for quite awhile. She switched us to an emulsified Vit D drop. I haven't rechecked his levels, but I have learned since then that if you want something to stay in the body longer and be better absorbed, you should try to emulsify it or buy it in an oil form or maybe gel? I recently made cranberry jello (using Knox gelatin and honey) with liquid magnesium chloride. I am hoping it will help the cranberry and magnesium do its work better instead of being flushed right out. Anyway, my 2 cents. > > To All: > > This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to let everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and we're doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more colds, flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15 months!!) and for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.: > > " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant, glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. " > > Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml > > The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other than what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day. > Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of Vit D3 (you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified by the top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly dead in a multi): > > - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills or Culturelle or what-not. > - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood. > - Vit C (time-released from GNC) > - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other reasons) > - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue. > - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals > - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up on 'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em). Some of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile issues disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies a few months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time. Nerve Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key ones for nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as long as taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to take it for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned that day) until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native Remedies and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now! > - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it) > - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be GSE, anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc. > > This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a KEY factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products .... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5 other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories). > > Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3 is ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also. > > To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I sometimes take 50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down to 10K the next day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K iu's a day. If you have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then that is your problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can overdose on Vit D3 easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day and that's nearly impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do that!!! > > Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun. We get 20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day, in the summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math, please, and do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A (in Cod Liver Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3. > > My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or leave it 'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting results or not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the ALA schedule often enough or ... > > If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise, spead the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council website. You all can read. > > Happy New Year! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 Great that all that is working for you and your family. The whole point of ALA chelation is so you do t have to swallow all those pills, restrict foods, watch the diet so carefully and basically balance everyones universe so that they can function optimally. We call what your doing, medical management. And it requires a lot of pills and tweaking. I actually think giving all that stuff on a long term basis is worse than chelation, but that's me. But parents aren't going to be around forever to monitor pills and diet. And nothing your doing is getting the metals out that still leave them vulnerable to physical and psychological disease. > > To All: > > This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to let everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and we're doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more colds, flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15 months!!) and for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.: > > " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant, glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. " > > Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml > > The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other than what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day. > Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of Vit D3 (you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified by the top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly dead in a multi): > > - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills or Culturelle or what-not. > - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood. > - Vit C (time-released from GNC) > - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other reasons) > - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue. > - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals > - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up on 'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em). Some of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile issues disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies a few months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time. Nerve Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key ones for nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as long as taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to take it for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned that day) until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native Remedies and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now! > - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it) > - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be GSE, anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc. > > This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a KEY factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products .... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5 other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories). > > Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3 is ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also. > > To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I sometimes take 50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down to 10K the next day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K iu's a day. If you have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then that is your problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can overdose on Vit D3 easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day and that's nearly impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do that!!! > > Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun. We get 20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day, in the summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math, please, and do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A (in Cod Liver Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3. > > My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or leave it 'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting results or not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the ALA schedule often enough or ... > > If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise, spead the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council website. You all can read. > > Happy New Year! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 I think you might have missed the crux of the message: " These studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. " - Dr. Cannell, Vitamin D Council Note the word 'removing'. You can write to him to see to get the studies that support this or search on google. With the increased immunity to colds/flu/sinus problems here for all 3 of us, I wouldn't decrease our Vit D protocol if you paid me. That alone is worth it's weight in gold. p.s. for those who are not absorbing Vit D3 thru the gut, you can buy UV lighting for your house that works like the sun. I'd search what's on the Vitamin D Council website for advice on what to buy. I know they tell you what types of units are good if you go to a tanning clinic (only certain types of tanning beds are going to give the right UV rays, so be careful and do not go to tan or burn! just a few minutes and get out before the child turns pink or brown. no sunscreen or you won't get the Vit D " bath " !). Proper eyewear is needed, so this isn't for every child!!! > > > > To All: > > > > This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to let everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and we're doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more colds, flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15 months!!) and for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.: > > > > " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant, glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. " > > > > Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml > > > > The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other than what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day. > > Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of Vit D3 (you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified by the top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly dead in a multi): > > > > - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills or Culturelle or what-not. > > - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood. > > - Vit C (time-released from GNC) > > - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other reasons) > > - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue. > > - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals > > - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up on 'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em). Some of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile issues disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies a few months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time. Nerve Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key ones for nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as long as taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to take it for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned that day) until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native Remedies and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now! > > - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it) > > - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be GSE, anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc. > > > > This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a KEY factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products .... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5 other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories). > > > > Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3 is ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also. > > > > To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I sometimes take 50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down to 10K the next day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K iu's a day. If you have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then that is your problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can overdose on Vit D3 easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day and that's nearly impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do that!!! > > > > Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun. We get 20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day, in the summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math, please, and do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A (in Cod Liver Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3. > > > > My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or leave it 'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting results or not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the ALA schedule often enough or ... > > > > If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise, spead the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council website. You all can read. > > > > Happy New Year! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 I didn't realize the Vitamin D people were this delusional. Note the word delusional. You can read anything on the web. Not that I don't get the benefits of Vitamin D, I do. Just that Vitamin D is not going to remove metals from chronically poisoned children. You would do well to study the properties of what is a chelator and what is not. And the difference between acute and chronic exposure to Mercury and what agents are effective in each case. I really wish it were this easy. [ ] Re: Alternative approach, take it or leave it I think you might have missed the crux of the message: " These studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. " - Dr. Cannell, Vitamin D Council Note the word 'removing'. You can write to him to see to get the studies that support this or search on google. With the increased immunity to colds/flu/sinus problems here for all 3 of us, I wouldn't decrease our Vit D protocol if you paid me. That alone is worth it's weight in gold. p.s. for those who are not absorbing Vit D3 thru the gut, you can buy UV lighting for your house that works like the sun. I'd search what's on the Vitamin D Council website for advice on what to buy. I know they tell you what types of units are good if you go to a tanning clinic (only certain types of tanning beds are going to give the right UV rays, so be careful and do not go to tan or burn! just a few minutes and get out before the child turns pink or brown. no sunscreen or you won't get the Vit D " bath " !). Proper eyewear is needed, so this isn't for every child!!! > > > > To All: > > > > This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to let everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and we're doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more colds, flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15 months!!) and for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.: > > > > " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant, glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. " > > > > Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml > > > > The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other than what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day. > > Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of Vit D3 (you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified by the top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly dead in a multi): > > > > - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills or Culturelle or what-not. > > - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood. > > - Vit C (time-released from GNC) > > - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other reasons) > > - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue. > > - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals > > - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up on 'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em). Some of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile issues disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies a few months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time. Nerve Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key ones for nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as long as taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to take it for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned that day) until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native Remedies and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now! > > - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it) > > - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be GSE, anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc. > > > > This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a KEY factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products .... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5 other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories). > > > > Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3 is ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also. > > > > To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I sometimes take 50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down to 10K the next day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K iu's a day. If you have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then that is your problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can overdose on Vit D3 easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day and that's nearly impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do that!!! > > > > Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun. We get 20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day, in the summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math, please, and do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A (in Cod Liver Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3. > > > > My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or leave it 'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting results or not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the ALA schedule often enough or ... > > > > If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise, spead the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council website. You all can read. > > > > Happy New Year! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 One reason our children may be low in Vitamin D is because they are calcium toxic. I have read that Vitamin D recycles and increases absorption of calcium. Both mercury and aluminum can cause elevated calcium (calcium released from bone, calcium wasting basically) and in my opinion this could definitely signal Vitamin D receptors to shut down and stop further absorption. If this is true, chelating will fix the problem - not extra Vitamin D. > > > > > > To All: > > > > > > This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to let everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and we're doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more colds, flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15 months!!) and for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.: > > > > > > " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant, glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. " > > > > > > Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml > > > > > > The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other than what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day. > > > Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of Vit D3 (you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified by the top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly dead in a multi): > > > > > > - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills or Culturelle or what-not. > > > - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood. > > > - Vit C (time-released from GNC) > > > - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other reasons) > > > - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue. > > > - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals > > > - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up on 'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em). Some of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile issues disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies a few months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time. Nerve Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key ones for nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as long as taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to take it for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned that day) until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native Remedies and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now! > > > - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it) > > > - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be GSE, anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc. > > > > > > This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a KEY factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products .... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5 other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories). > > > > > > Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3 is ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also. > > > > > > To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I sometimes take 50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down to 10K the next day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K iu's a day. If you have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then that is your problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can overdose on Vit D3 easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day and that's nearly impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do that!!! > > > > > > Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun. We get 20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day, in the summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math, please, and do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A (in Cod Liver Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3. > > > > > > My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or leave it 'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting results or not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the ALA schedule often enough or ... > > > > > > If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise, spead the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council website. You all can read. > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 This makes sense to me IF that is the case for a given child. Assumedly, it's rather complicated as to how one determines if their child is Calcium toxic (or not). Dr. Cannell states on his website: " It is true that a few people may have problems with high calcium due to undiagnosed vitamin D hypersensitivity syndromes such as primary hyperparathyroidism, granulomatous disease, or occult cancers, but a blood calcium level, PTH, 25(OH)D, and calcitriol level should help clarify the cause of the hypersensitivity. Although D can be toxic in excess, the same can be said for water. " Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/vitaminDToxicity.shtml (read the webpage for the rest of the statements) I wish that those of you who apparently are doctors or scientists and understand the chelation process in detail would relay your theories and facts back to Dr. Cannell. He is an M.D. and is one of the few M.D.'s who is grappling and simply wants to help the public. Everyone needs access to facts in order to have collective progress. I just don't feel qualified to relay the concerns or knowledge that you all present. He seems to read most of his emails and will personally respond. Find the contact info on the Vitamin D Council website and respectfully present your view. Interestingly, on his website, he has posted many letters from parents whose autistic children have improved greatly with Vitamin D, so it would seem that some sort of duality exists here that ought to be addressed. Or, there may be different types of root problems in autism that both of these forums are addressing successfully for the different nuances of the same syndrome. I think the key aspect of a scientist or doctor is to remain open-minded to the fact that current knowledge is limited. History proves time and again that generally accepted scientific 'truths' are often eclipsed with new knowledge or, at least, improvements. If Dr. Cannell isn't open to your facts or theories, we all suffer from a lack of forward movement. Likewise, if you won't take a serious look at what studies he has and the results, the same occurs. There is no cookie cutter approach and no silver bullet. Cheers, M > > > > > > > > To All: > > > > > > > > This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to let everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and we're doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more colds, flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15 months!!) and for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.: > > > > > > > > " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant, glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. " > > > > > > > > Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml > > > > > > > > The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other than what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day. > > > > Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of Vit D3 (you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified by the top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly dead in a multi): > > > > > > > > - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills or Culturelle or what-not. > > > > - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood. > > > > - Vit C (time-released from GNC) > > > > - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other reasons) > > > > - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue. > > > > - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals > > > > - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up on 'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em). Some of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile issues disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies a few months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time. Nerve Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key ones for nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as long as taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to take it for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned that day) until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native Remedies and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now! > > > > - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it) > > > > - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be GSE, anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc. > > > > > > > > This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a KEY factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products .... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5 other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories). > > > > > > > > Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3 is ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also. > > > > > > > > To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I sometimes take 50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down to 10K the next day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K iu's a day. If you have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then that is your problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can overdose on Vit D3 easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day and that's nearly impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do that!!! > > > > > > > > Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun. We get 20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day, in the summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math, please, and do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A (in Cod Liver Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3. > > > > > > > > My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or leave it 'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting results or not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the ALA schedule often enough or ... > > > > > > > > If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise, spead the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council website. You all can read. > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Well said. I love the Vitamin D council and I've been reading his work long before he mentioned autism. I believe he is the reason so many people understand that Vitamin D helps fight flu. I'm pleased that he cares about autism, and about exploring any link with Vitamin D. That's one more person trying to help our kids. Deb > > > > > > > > > > To All: > > > > > > > > > > This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to let everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and we're doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more colds, flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15 months!!) and for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.: > > > > > > > > > > " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant, glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. " > > > > > > > > > > Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml > > > > > > > > > > The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other than what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day. > > > > > Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of Vit D3 (you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified by the top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly dead in a multi): > > > > > > > > > > - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills or Culturelle or what-not. > > > > > - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood. > > > > > - Vit C (time-released from GNC) > > > > > - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other reasons) > > > > > - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue. > > > > > - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals > > > > > - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up on 'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em). Some of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile issues disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies a few months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time. Nerve Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key ones for nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as long as taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to take it for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned that day) until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native Remedies and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now! > > > > > - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it) > > > > > - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be GSE, anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc. > > > > > > > > > > This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a KEY factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products .... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5 other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories). > > > > > > > > > > Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3 is ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also. > > > > > > > > > > To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I sometimes take 50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down to 10K the next day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K iu's a day. If you have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then that is your problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can overdose on Vit D3 easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day and that's nearly impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do that!!! > > > > > > > > > > Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun. We get 20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day, in the summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math, please, and do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A (in Cod Liver Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3. > > > > > > > > > > My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or leave it 'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting results or not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the ALA schedule often enough or ... > > > > > > > > > > If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise, spead the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council website. You all can read. > > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Many supplements improve Autistic children; clo, Vitamin E, calcium but we don't consider those as removing mercury. In the quote you sent me the vitamin D council says they " hope " it removes Mercury. Not much hope, Vitamin D is not a chelator, cannot remove the brain and CNS stores of mercury that our kids have, that cause our kids problems. Continue to do research outside the Vitamin D council, never good to get all your information from one camp. [ ] Re: Alternative approach, take it or leave it This makes sense to me IF that is the case for a given child. Assumedly, it's rather complicated as to how one determines if their child is Calcium toxic (or not). Dr. Cannell states on his website: " It is true that a few people may have problems with high calcium due to undiagnosed vitamin D hypersensitivity syndromes such as primary hyperparathyroidism, granulomatous disease, or occult cancers, but a blood calcium level, PTH, 25(OH)D, and calcitriol level should help clarify the cause of the hypersensitivity. Although D can be toxic in excess, the same can be said for water. " Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/vitaminDToxicity.shtml (read the webpage for the rest of the statements) I wish that those of you who apparently are doctors or scientists and understand the chelation process in detail would relay your theories and facts back to Dr. Cannell. He is an M.D. and is one of the few M.D.'s who is grappling and simply wants to help the public. Everyone needs access to facts in order to have collective progress. I just don't feel qualified to relay the concerns or knowledge that you all present. He seems to read most of his emails and will personally respond. Find the contact info on the Vitamin D Council website and respectfully present your view. Interestingly, on his website, he has posted many letters from parents whose autistic children have improved greatly with Vitamin D, so it would seem that some sort of duality exists here that ought to be addressed. Or, there may be different types of root problems in autism that both of these forums are addressing successfully for the different nuances of the same syndrome. I think the key aspect of a scientist or doctor is to remain open-minded to the fact that current knowledge is limited. History proves time and again that generally accepted scientific 'truths' are often eclipsed with new knowledge or, at least, improvements. If Dr. Cannell isn't open to your facts or theories, we all suffer from a lack of forward movement. Likewise, if you won't take a serious look at what studies he has and the results, the same occurs. There is no cookie cutter approach and no silver bullet. Cheers, M > > > > > > > > To All: > > > > > > > > This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to let everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and we're doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more colds, flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15 months!!) and for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.: > > > > > > > > " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant, glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. " > > > > > > > > Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml > > > > > > > > The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other than what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day. > > > > Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of Vit D3 (you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified by the top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly dead in a multi): > > > > > > > > - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills or Culturelle or what-not. > > > > - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood. > > > > - Vit C (time-released from GNC) > > > > - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other reasons) > > > > - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue. > > > > - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals > > > > - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up on 'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em). Some of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile issues disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies a few months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time. Nerve Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key ones for nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as long as taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to take it for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned that day) until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native Remedies and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now! > > > > - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it) > > > > - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be GSE, anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc. > > > > > > > > This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a KEY factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products .... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5 other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories). > > > > > > > > Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3 is ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also. > > > > > > > > To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I sometimes take 50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down to 10K the next day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K iu's a day. If you have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then that is your problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can overdose on Vit D3 easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day and that's nearly impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do that!!! > > > > > > > > Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun. We get 20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day, in the summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math, please, and do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A (in Cod Liver Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3. > > > > > > > > My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or leave it 'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting results or not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the ALA schedule often enough or ... > > > > > > > > If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise, spead the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council website. You all can read. > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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