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To All:

This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to let

everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and we're

doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more colds,

flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15 months!!) and

for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.:

" Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link between

mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For example,

activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in rat brain.

The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through depletion

of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant, glutathione acts

as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as mercury. Autistic

individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like mercury. If brain levels

of activated vitamin D are too low to employ glutathione properly, and thus

unable to remove heavy metals, they may be damaged by heavy metal loads normal

children easily excrete. That is, the mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have

injured vitamin D deficient children while normal children would have easily

bound the mercury and excreted it. These studies offer further hope that

sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help autistic children by increasing

glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only do we have more clues that

vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory just did something else:

it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury accumulation theory and

the oxidative stress theory. "

Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml

The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other than what

is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day.

Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of Vit D3 (you

may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified by the top 2

companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly dead in a

multi):

- Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills or

Culturelle or what-not.

- Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood.

- Vit C (time-released from GNC)

- A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other reasons)

- B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue.

- Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals

- Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up on 'tissue

cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em). Some of them

are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile issues

disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies a few

months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time. Nerve

Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key ones for

nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as long as

taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to take it

for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned that day)

until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native Remedies

and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now!

- 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it)

- Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be GSE,

anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc.

This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a KEY factor

for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the Vitamin D

Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread the news.

I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products ... e.g.

one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down the route

of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses of Vit D3

for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply disappeared.

Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test to find out

what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5 other adult

friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One had

seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the winter

because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No outbreaks in

the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than you think,

and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to mitochondrial

dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories).

Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3 is ruined

by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also.

To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I sometimes take 50K

iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down to 10K the next day

and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K iu's a day. If you have

a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then that is your problem.

There are no formal studies that show that you can overdose on Vit D3 easily. I

mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day and that's nearly impossible.

You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do that!!!

Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun. We get

20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day, in the

summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math, please, and

do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A (in Cod Liver

Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3.

My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or leave it 'cos

this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting results or not

quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the ALA schedule

often enough or ...

If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise, spead the

word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other chronic

conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council website.

You all can read.

Happy New Year!

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p.s. I forgot to mention that weekly neurofeedback was a big factor, too, as

well as yoga, Tai Chi, and meditation. And, cutting out milk/dairy and going

mostly organic and limiting grains. No HFCS, no chocolate, no caffeine. Lots of

healthy water. More greens and fruits. You get the picture. Some kids can't

handle all of that, obviously, just yet. So, keep in mind that this is working

for US ... right NOW. And, 2 years ago, we had to do melatonin at night and then

got rid of that with the home Proteus unit (google it) --- which was only needed

for about a month and still no more nighttime sleep aids are needed anymore.

But, we keep the Proteus unit for other reasons. Well, both kids and I still

love white noise machines for falling asleep, to be honest.

>

> To All:

>

> This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to let

everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and we're

doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more colds,

flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15 months!!) and

for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.:

>

> " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link

between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For

example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in

rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through

depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant,

glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as

mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like

mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ

glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be

damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the

mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children

while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These

studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help

autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only

do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory

just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury

accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. "

>

> Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml

>

> The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other than

what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day.

> Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of Vit D3

(you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified by the

top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly dead in

a multi):

>

> - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills or

Culturelle or what-not.

> - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood.

> - Vit C (time-released from GNC)

> - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other reasons)

> - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue.

> - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals

> - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up on

'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em). Some

of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile issues

disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies a few

months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time. Nerve

Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key ones for

nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as long as

taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to take it

for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned that day)

until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native Remedies

and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now!

> - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it)

> - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be GSE,

anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc.

>

> This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a KEY

factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the

Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread

the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products

.... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down

the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses

of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply

disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test

to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5

other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One

had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the

winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No

outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than

you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to

mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories).

>

> Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3 is

ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also.

>

> To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I sometimes take

50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down to 10K the next

day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K iu's a day. If you

have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then that is your

problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can overdose on Vit D3

easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day and that's nearly

impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do that!!!

>

> Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun. We get

20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day, in the

summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math, please, and

do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A (in Cod Liver

Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3.

>

> My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or leave it

'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting results or

not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the ALA schedule

often enough or ...

>

> If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise, spead

the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other

chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council

website. You all can read.

>

> Happy New Year!

>

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I want to let everyone know that NP had us test 's D3 levels and he

was still near having rickets after being on a high dose of NOW Brand Vit D for

quite awhile. She switched us to an emulsified Vit D drop. I haven't rechecked

his levels, but I have learned since then that if you want something to stay in

the body longer and be better absorbed, you should try to emulsify it or buy it

in an oil form or maybe gel? I recently made cranberry jello (using Knox

gelatin and honey) with liquid magnesium chloride. I am hoping it will help the

cranberry and magnesium do its work better instead of being flushed right out.

Anyway, my 2 cents.

>

> To All:

>

> This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to let

everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and we're

doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more colds,

flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15 months!!) and

for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.:

>

> " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link

between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For

example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in

rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through

depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant,

glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as

mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like

mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ

glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be

damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the

mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children

while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These

studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help

autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only

do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory

just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury

accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. "

>

> Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml

>

> The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other than

what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day.

> Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of Vit D3

(you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified by the

top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly dead in

a multi):

>

> - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills or

Culturelle or what-not.

> - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood.

> - Vit C (time-released from GNC)

> - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other reasons)

> - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue.

> - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals

> - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up on

'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em). Some

of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile issues

disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies a few

months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time. Nerve

Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key ones for

nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as long as

taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to take it

for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned that day)

until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native Remedies

and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now!

> - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it)

> - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be GSE,

anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc.

>

> This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a KEY

factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the

Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread

the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products

.... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down

the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses

of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply

disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test

to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5

other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One

had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the

winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No

outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than

you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to

mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories).

>

> Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3 is

ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also.

>

> To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I sometimes take

50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down to 10K the next

day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K iu's a day. If you

have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then that is your

problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can overdose on Vit D3

easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day and that's nearly

impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do that!!!

>

> Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun. We get

20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day, in the

summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math, please, and

do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A (in Cod Liver

Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3.

>

> My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or leave it

'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting results or

not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the ALA schedule

often enough or ...

>

> If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise, spead

the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other

chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council

website. You all can read.

>

> Happy New Year!

>

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Great that all that is working for you and your family.

The whole point of ALA chelation is so you do t have to swallow all those pills,

restrict foods, watch the diet so carefully and basically balance everyones

universe so that they can function optimally. We call what your doing, medical

management. And it requires a lot of pills and tweaking. I actually think giving

all that stuff on a long term basis is worse than chelation, but that's me.

But parents aren't going to be around forever to monitor pills and diet. And

nothing your doing is getting the metals out that still leave them vulnerable to

physical and psychological disease.

>

> To All:

>

> This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to let

everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and we're

doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more colds,

flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15 months!!) and

for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.:

>

> " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link

between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For

example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in

rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through

depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant,

glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as

mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like

mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ

glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be

damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the

mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children

while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These

studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help

autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only

do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory

just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury

accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. "

>

> Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml

>

> The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other than

what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day.

> Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of Vit D3

(you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified by the

top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly dead in

a multi):

>

> - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills or

Culturelle or what-not.

> - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood.

> - Vit C (time-released from GNC)

> - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other reasons)

> - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue.

> - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals

> - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up on

'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em). Some

of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile issues

disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies a few

months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time. Nerve

Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key ones for

nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as long as

taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to take it

for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned that day)

until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native Remedies

and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now!

> - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it)

> - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be GSE,

anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc.

>

> This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a KEY

factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the

Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread

the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products

.... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down

the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses

of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply

disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test

to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5

other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One

had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the

winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No

outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than

you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to

mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories).

>

> Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3 is

ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also.

>

> To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I sometimes take

50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down to 10K the next

day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K iu's a day. If you

have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then that is your

problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can overdose on Vit D3

easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day and that's nearly

impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do that!!!

>

> Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun. We get

20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day, in the

summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math, please, and

do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A (in Cod Liver

Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3.

>

> My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or leave it

'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting results or

not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the ALA schedule

often enough or ...

>

> If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise, spead

the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other

chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council

website. You all can read.

>

> Happy New Year!

>

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I think you might have missed the crux of the message:

" These studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may

help autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. "

- Dr. Cannell, Vitamin D Council

Note the word 'removing'. You can write to him to see to get the studies that

support this or search on google.

With the increased immunity to colds/flu/sinus problems here for all 3 of us, I

wouldn't decrease our Vit D protocol if you paid me. That alone is worth it's

weight in gold.

p.s. for those who are not absorbing Vit D3 thru the gut, you can buy UV

lighting for your house that works like the sun. I'd search what's on the

Vitamin D Council website for advice on what to buy. I know they tell you what

types of units are good if you go to a tanning clinic (only certain types of

tanning beds are going to give the right UV rays, so be careful and do not go to

tan or burn! just a few minutes and get out before the child turns pink or

brown. no sunscreen or you won't get the Vit D " bath " !). Proper eyewear is

needed, so this isn't for every child!!!

> >

> > To All:

> >

> > This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to let

everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and we're

doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more colds,

flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15 months!!) and

for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.:

> >

> > " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link

between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For

example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in

rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through

depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant,

glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as

mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like

mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ

glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be

damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the

mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children

while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These

studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help

autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only

do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory

just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury

accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. "

> >

> > Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml

> >

> > The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other than

what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day.

> > Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of Vit D3

(you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified by the

top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly dead in

a multi):

> >

> > - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills or

Culturelle or what-not.

> > - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood.

> > - Vit C (time-released from GNC)

> > - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other reasons)

> > - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue.

> > - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals

> > - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up on

'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em). Some

of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile issues

disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies a few

months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time. Nerve

Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key ones for

nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as long as

taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to take it

for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned that day)

until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native Remedies

and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now!

> > - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it)

> > - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be GSE,

anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc.

> >

> > This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a KEY

factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the

Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread

the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products

.... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down

the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses

of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply

disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test

to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5

other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One

had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the

winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No

outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than

you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to

mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories).

> >

> > Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3 is

ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also.

> >

> > To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I sometimes take

50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down to 10K the next

day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K iu's a day. If you

have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then that is your

problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can overdose on Vit D3

easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day and that's nearly

impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do that!!!

> >

> > Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun. We get

20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day, in the

summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math, please, and

do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A (in Cod Liver

Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3.

> >

> > My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or leave it

'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting results or

not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the ALA schedule

often enough or ...

> >

> > If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise, spead

the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other

chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council

website. You all can read.

> >

> > Happy New Year!

> >

>

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I didn't realize the Vitamin D people were this delusional. Note the word

delusional. You can read anything on the web. Not that I don't get the benefits

of Vitamin D, I do. Just that Vitamin D is not going to remove metals from

chronically poisoned children.

You would do well to study the properties of what is a chelator and what is not.

And the difference between acute and chronic exposure to Mercury and what agents

are effective in each case.

I really wish it were this easy.

[ ] Re: Alternative approach, take it or leave it

I think you might have missed the crux of the message:

" These studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements

may help autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. "

- Dr. Cannell, Vitamin D Council

Note the word 'removing'. You can write to him to see to get the studies that

support this or search on google.

With the increased immunity to colds/flu/sinus problems here for all 3 of us,

I wouldn't decrease our Vit D protocol if you paid me. That alone is worth it's

weight in gold.

p.s. for those who are not absorbing Vit D3 thru the gut, you can buy UV

lighting for your house that works like the sun. I'd search what's on the

Vitamin D Council website for advice on what to buy. I know they tell you what

types of units are good if you go to a tanning clinic (only certain types of

tanning beds are going to give the right UV rays, so be careful and do not go to

tan or burn! just a few minutes and get out before the child turns pink or

brown. no sunscreen or you won't get the Vit D " bath " !). Proper eyewear is

needed, so this isn't for every child!!!

> >

> > To All:

> >

> > This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to let

everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and we're

doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more colds,

flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15 months!!) and

for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.:

> >

> > " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link

between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For

example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in

rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through

depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant,

glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as

mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like

mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ

glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be

damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the

mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children

while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These

studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help

autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only

do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory

just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury

accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. "

> >

> > Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml

> >

> > The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other than

what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day.

> > Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of Vit

D3 (you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified by

the top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly

dead in a multi):

> >

> > - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills or

Culturelle or what-not.

> > - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood.

> > - Vit C (time-released from GNC)

> > - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other reasons)

> > - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue.

> > - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals

> > - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up on

'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em). Some

of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile issues

disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies a few

months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time. Nerve

Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key ones for

nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as long as

taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to take it

for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned that day)

until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native Remedies

and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now!

> > - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it)

> > - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be GSE,

anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc.

> >

> > This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a KEY

factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the

Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread

the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products

.... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down

the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses

of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply

disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test

to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5

other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One

had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the

winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No

outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than

you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to

mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories).

> >

> > Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3 is

ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also.

> >

> > To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I sometimes

take 50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down to 10K the

next day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K iu's a day. If

you have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then that is your

problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can overdose on Vit D3

easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day and that's nearly

impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do that!!!

> >

> > Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun. We

get 20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day, in

the summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math, please,

and do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A (in Cod

Liver Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3.

> >

> > My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or leave it

'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting results or

not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the ALA schedule

often enough or ...

> >

> > If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise,

spead the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other

chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council

website. You all can read.

> >

> > Happy New Year!

> >

>

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One reason our children may be low in Vitamin D is because they are calcium

toxic. I have read that Vitamin D recycles and increases absorption of calcium.

Both mercury and aluminum can cause elevated calcium (calcium released from

bone, calcium wasting basically) and in my opinion this could definitely signal

Vitamin D receptors to shut down and stop further absorption. If this is true,

chelating will fix the problem - not extra Vitamin D.

> > >

> > > To All:

> > >

> > > This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to

let everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and

we're doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more

colds, flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15

months!!) and for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.:

> > >

> > > " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link

between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For

example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in

rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through

depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant,

glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as

mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like

mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ

glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be

damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the

mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children

while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These

studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help

autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only

do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory

just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury

accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. "

> > >

> > > Source:

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml

> > >

> > > The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other

than what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day.

> > > Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of Vit

D3 (you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified by

the top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly

dead in a multi):

> > >

> > > - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills or

Culturelle or what-not.

> > > - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood.

> > > - Vit C (time-released from GNC)

> > > - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other reasons)

> > > - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue.

> > > - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals

> > > - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up on

'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em). Some

of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile issues

disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies a few

months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time. Nerve

Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key ones for

nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as long as

taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to take it

for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned that day)

until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native Remedies

and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now!

> > > - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it)

> > > - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be

GSE, anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc.

> > >

> > > This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a

KEY factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the

Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread

the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products

.... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down

the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses

of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply

disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test

to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5

other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One

had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the

winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No

outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than

you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to

mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories).

> > >

> > > Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3

is ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also.

> > >

> > > To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I sometimes

take 50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down to 10K the

next day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K iu's a day. If

you have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then that is your

problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can overdose on Vit D3

easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day and that's nearly

impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do that!!!

> > >

> > > Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun. We

get 20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day, in

the summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math, please,

and do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A (in Cod

Liver Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3.

> > >

> > > My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or leave

it 'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting results or

not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the ALA schedule

often enough or ...

> > >

> > > If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise,

spead the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other

chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council

website. You all can read.

> > >

> > > Happy New Year!

> > >

> >

>

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This makes sense to me IF that is the case for a given child. Assumedly, it's

rather complicated as to how one determines if their child is Calcium toxic (or

not).

Dr. Cannell states on his website:

" It is true that a few people may have problems with high calcium due to

undiagnosed vitamin D hypersensitivity syndromes such as primary

hyperparathyroidism, granulomatous disease, or occult cancers, but a blood

calcium level, PTH, 25(OH)D, and calcitriol level should help clarify the cause

of the hypersensitivity. Although D can be toxic in excess, the same can be said

for water. "

Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/vitaminDToxicity.shtml

(read the webpage for the rest of the statements)

I wish that those of you who apparently are doctors or scientists and understand

the chelation process in detail would relay your theories and facts back to Dr.

Cannell. He is an M.D. and is one of the few M.D.'s who is grappling and

simply wants to help the public. Everyone needs access to facts in order to have

collective progress. I just don't feel qualified to relay the concerns or

knowledge that you all present. He seems to read most of his emails and will

personally respond. Find the contact info on the Vitamin D Council website and

respectfully present your view.

Interestingly, on his website, he has posted many letters from parents whose

autistic children have improved greatly with Vitamin D, so it would seem that

some sort of duality exists here that ought to be addressed. Or, there may be

different types of root problems in autism that both of these forums are

addressing successfully for the different nuances of the same syndrome.

I think the key aspect of a scientist or doctor is to remain open-minded to the

fact that current knowledge is limited. History proves time and again that

generally accepted scientific 'truths' are often eclipsed with new knowledge or,

at least, improvements. If Dr. Cannell isn't open to your facts or theories, we

all suffer from a lack of forward movement. Likewise, if you won't take a

serious look at what studies he has and the results, the same occurs. There is

no cookie cutter approach and no silver bullet.

Cheers,

M

> > > >

> > > > To All:

> > > >

> > > > This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to

let everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and

we're doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more

colds, flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15

months!!) and for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.:

> > > >

> > > > " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the

link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For

example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in

rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through

depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant,

glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as

mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like

mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ

glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be

damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the

mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children

while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These

studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help

autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only

do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory

just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury

accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. "

> > > >

> > > > Source:

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml

> > > >

> > > > The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other

than what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day.

> > > > Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of

Vit D3 (you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified

by the top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly

dead in a multi):

> > > >

> > > > - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills

or Culturelle or what-not.

> > > > - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood.

> > > > - Vit C (time-released from GNC)

> > > > - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other

reasons)

> > > > - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue.

> > > > - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals

> > > > - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up

on 'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em).

Some of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile

issues disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies

a few months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time.

Nerve Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key

ones for nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as

long as taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to

take it for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned

that day) until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native

Remedies and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now!

> > > > - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it)

> > > > - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be

GSE, anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc.

> > > >

> > > > This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a

KEY factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the

Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread

the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products

.... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down

the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses

of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply

disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test

to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5

other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One

had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the

winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No

outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than

you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to

mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories).

> > > >

> > > > Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3

is ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also.

> > > >

> > > > To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I

sometimes take 50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down

to 10K the next day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K

iu's a day. If you have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then

that is your problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can

overdose on Vit D3 easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day

and that's nearly impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do

that!!!

> > > >

> > > > Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun.

We get 20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day,

in the summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math,

please, and do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A

(in Cod Liver Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3.

> > > >

> > > > My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or

leave it 'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting

results or not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the

ALA schedule often enough or ...

> > > >

> > > > If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise,

spead the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other

chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council

website. You all can read.

> > > >

> > > > Happy New Year!

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Well said. I love the Vitamin D council and I've been reading his work long

before he mentioned autism. I believe he is the reason so many people

understand that Vitamin D helps fight flu. I'm pleased that he cares about

autism, and about exploring any link with Vitamin D. That's one more person

trying to help our kids.

Deb

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> > > > > To All:

> > > > >

> > > > > This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted

to let everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and

we're doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more

colds, flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15

months!!) and for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.:

> > > > >

> > > > > " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the

link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For

example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in

rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through

depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant,

glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as

mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like

mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ

glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be

damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the

mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children

while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These

studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help

autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only

do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory

just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury

accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. "

> > > > >

> > > > > Source:

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml

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> > > > > The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A

other than what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day.

> > > > > Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of

Vit D3 (you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified

by the top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly

dead in a multi):

> > > > >

> > > > > - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills

or Culturelle or what-not.

> > > > > - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood.

> > > > > - Vit C (time-released from GNC)

> > > > > - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other

reasons)

> > > > > - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue.

> > > > > - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals

> > > > > - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up

on 'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em).

Some of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile

issues disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies

a few months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time.

Nerve Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key

ones for nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as

long as taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to

take it for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned

that day) until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native

Remedies and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now!

> > > > > - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it)

> > > > > - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be

GSE, anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is

a KEY factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the

Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread

the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products

.... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down

the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses

of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply

disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test

to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5

other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One

had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the

winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No

outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than

you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to

mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories).

> > > > >

> > > > > Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit

D3 is ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also.

> > > > >

> > > > > To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I

sometimes take 50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down

to 10K the next day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K

iu's a day. If you have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then

that is your problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can

overdose on Vit D3 easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day

and that's nearly impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do

that!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun.

We get 20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day,

in the summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math,

please, and do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A

(in Cod Liver Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3.

> > > > >

> > > > > My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or

leave it 'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting

results or not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the

ALA schedule often enough or ...

> > > > >

> > > > > If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or

otherwise, spead the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and

many other chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D

Council website. You all can read.

> > > > >

> > > > > Happy New Year!

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Many supplements improve Autistic children; clo, Vitamin E, calcium but we don't

consider those as removing mercury. In the quote you sent me the vitamin D

council says they " hope " it removes Mercury.

Not much hope, Vitamin D is not a chelator, cannot remove the brain and CNS

stores of mercury that our kids have, that cause our kids problems.

Continue to do research outside the Vitamin D council, never good to get all

your information from one camp.

[ ] Re: Alternative approach, take it or leave it

This makes sense to me IF that is the case for a given child. Assumedly, it's

rather complicated as to how one determines if their child is Calcium toxic (or

not).

Dr. Cannell states on his website:

" It is true that a few people may have problems with high calcium due to

undiagnosed vitamin D hypersensitivity syndromes such as primary

hyperparathyroidism, granulomatous disease, or occult cancers, but a blood

calcium level, PTH, 25(OH)D, and calcitriol level should help clarify the cause

of the hypersensitivity. Although D can be toxic in excess, the same can be said

for water. "

Source: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/vitaminDToxicity.shtml

(read the webpage for the rest of the statements)

I wish that those of you who apparently are doctors or scientists and

understand the chelation process in detail would relay your theories and facts

back to Dr. Cannell. He is an M.D. and is one of the few M.D.'s who is

grappling and simply wants to help the public. Everyone needs access to facts in

order to have collective progress. I just don't feel qualified to relay the

concerns or knowledge that you all present. He seems to read most of his emails

and will personally respond. Find the contact info on the Vitamin D Council

website and respectfully present your view.

Interestingly, on his website, he has posted many letters from parents whose

autistic children have improved greatly with Vitamin D, so it would seem that

some sort of duality exists here that ought to be addressed. Or, there may be

different types of root problems in autism that both of these forums are

addressing successfully for the different nuances of the same syndrome.

I think the key aspect of a scientist or doctor is to remain open-minded to

the fact that current knowledge is limited. History proves time and again that

generally accepted scientific 'truths' are often eclipsed with new knowledge or,

at least, improvements. If Dr. Cannell isn't open to your facts or theories, we

all suffer from a lack of forward movement. Likewise, if you won't take a

serious look at what studies he has and the results, the same occurs. There is

no cookie cutter approach and no silver bullet.

Cheers,

M

> > > >

> > > > To All:

> > > >

> > > > This may not work for everyone or only for a few, but I just wanted to

let everyone know that we haven't had to use ALA in any specific way yet and

we're doing pretty well. Our saving grace has been Vit D3 for immunity (no more

colds, flu, or sinus infections for any of us in the family for about 15

months!!) and for mood/meltdowns/stuck thinking/etc.:

> > > >

> > > > " Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the

link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For

example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in

rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through

depletion of glutathione. Besides its function as a master antioxidant,

glutathione acts as a chelating (binding) agent to remove heavy metals such as

mercury. Autistic individuals have difficulty excreting heavy metals like

mercury. If brain levels of activated vitamin D are too low to employ

glutathione properly, and thus unable to remove heavy metals, they may be

damaged by heavy metal loads normal children easily excrete. That is, the

mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin D deficient children

while normal children would have easily bound the mercury and excreted it. These

studies offer further hope that sun-exposure or vitamin D supplements may help

autistic children by increasing glutathione and removing heavy metals. Not only

do we have more clues that vitamin D is involved in autism, the vitamin D theory

just did something else: it explained two other theories of autism, the mercury

accumulation theory and the oxidative stress theory. "

> > > >

> > > > Source:

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml

> > > >

> > > > The 13 year old gets 5K to 10K iu's per day of Vit D3. No Vit A other

than what is in the basic multi. The 6 y.o. gets 2K iu's per day.

> > > > Here's a basic list of other things we take besides the NOW brand of

Vit D3 (you may choose any other certified brand, but make sure it is certified

by the top 2 companies because Vit D3 dies on the shelf otherwise and is nearly

dead in a multi):

> > > >

> > > > - Gut flora control. This varies by brand, rotating thru Pearl pills

or Culturelle or what-not.

> > > > - Holy Thistle also (Milk Thistle) which helps a lot for mood.

> > > > - Vit C (time-released from GNC)

> > > > - A daily pill of Flax Seed oil (for Omega-3 balance and other

reasons)

> > > > - B-complex vitamins plus B-12 powder on tongue.

> > > > - Digest Gold enzymes pre-meals

> > > > - Pre-meal dissolve 12 mineral salts on tongue to replenish. Read up

on 'tissue cell salts' or 'cell tissue salts' or 'mineral salts' (12 of 'em).

Some of them are great for the myelin sheath, I " think " , as my son's tactile

issues disappeared when he re-started the Nerve Tonic pills from NativeRemedies

a few months ago. It was the only thing we had changed in his diet at that time.

Nerve Tonic from NR is a subset of the 12 mineral salts ... has 3 of the key

ones for nerves. p.s. The same nerve tonic eliminated (totally and instantly, as

long as taken 3x/day) my son's OCD (counting) symptoms a few years back. Had to

take it for 2 years (taking him off it meant instantly that symptoms returned

that day) until his gut repaired (he was also taking Digestive Tonic from Native

Remedies and stopped all milk). No crazy counting (OCD) for years now!

> > > > - 1 ALA pill/day (not much in it)

> > > > - Other things I can't remember right now, but they vary .... can be

GSE, anti-candida, pro-bio, fiber, etc.

> > > >

> > > > This may not work for your family, but I really feel that Vit D3 is a

KEY factor for all of us for many, many health factors. Please read up on the

Vitamin D Council website and support Dr. Cannell in his efforts to spread

the news. I have now " saved " several adult friends from unending pharm products

.... e.g. one of them had achey joints all over her body ... doc was going down

the route of possible MS or osteo issues. I convinced her to take massive doses

of Vit D3 for a couple of weeks (20K iu's per day) and her symptoms simply

disappeared. Now, she is down to 10K iu's per day and will take the 25OH(D) test

to find out what her levels are. But, man, is she happy! And, I have at least 5

other adult friends who avoided long-term medications for DIFFERENT reasons. One

had seasonal affective disorder and no longer has to take her Prozac in the

winter because she took my advice about Vit D3. And, eczema. Easy one! No

outbreaks in the winter anymore for that person. You adults might need more than

you think, and autistics need their levels to be WAY higher possibly due to

mitochondrial dysfunction (read Dr. Cannell's theories).

> > > >

> > > > Word to the wise ... do your homework. But, please realize that Vit D3

is ruined by taking Vit A and that too much Vit A can be bad, also.

> > > >

> > > > To the people who think you can overdose on Vit D3 ... ???? I

sometimes take 50K iu's a day if I start to get the sniffles and then back down

to 10K the next day and my sniffles are totally GONE. My kids take 5K to 10K

iu's a day. If you have a cheap brand and you're taking a lot of Vit A .... then

that is your problem. There are no formal studies that show that you can

overdose on Vit D3 easily. I mean, you'd have to take around 100,000 iu's a day

and that's nearly impossible. You'd be eating a LOT of Vit D3 pills to do

that!!!

> > > >

> > > > Think about it ... Vit D3 is from the sun and we evolved on the sun.

We get 20,000 iu's of Vit D3 naturally in a HALF HOUR in the middle of the day,

in the summer, from the sun when in a bathing suit. Go figure out the math,

please, and do NOT worry about too much Vit D3. DO worry about too much Vit A

(in Cod Liver Oil) and DO worry that Vit A counteracts the effects of Vit D3.

> > > >

> > > > My rant is over and I won't be checking replies. Take the info or

leave it 'cos this post is meant to help those who otherwise aren't getting

results or not quickly enough or want to try something else or can't meet the

ALA schedule often enough or ...

> > > >

> > > > If it works for your or your child for immunity or mood or otherwise,

spead the word! Vit D3 deficiency is real and is linked to cancer and many other

chronic conditions for adults. I won't repeat what's on the Vitamin D Council

website. You all can read.

> > > >

> > > > Happy New Year!

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