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Harper, where do we get these shots? I talked to my GI and she said it would be OK for me to get them. I don't know if I get them at my GP or where?

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We've discussed the importance of our getting vaccines for flu and Hepatitis A and B. (These vaccines are not based on live viruses and are safe for people using Imuran.) I believe we may need to get one more vaccine, for pneumonia. As I remember it, I was given the pneumonia vaccine just after I was diagnosed with AIH. My memory is pretty blurry for things that happened about then, so you should check with your own doctor to make sure that this vaccine is appropriate for you. To quote Consumer Reports, of all things, "Anyone who has chronic heart, lung, or liver disease, diabetes, sickle-cell disease, alcoholism, or compromised immunity or who has had spleen removed. Also for adults 65 and up. Five-year booster needed for people who got first shot before age 65 or who are at extremely high risk." Harper (AIH 5/00)

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Hi Listmates,

Below is From Dr. Hulda 's Newletter

Dear Guest of http://www..net!

by P. Amrein

I hope you have started the new year well. We see a lot of mixed signs on the political horizon. On the one hand, Senate Bill 577 in California is an attempt to pass a liberal legislation on practicing alternative medicine. On the other hand, several states are planning mandatory vaccination -- vaccines are being criticized because they contain mercury and other toxins and can also cause serious injury to vaccinated children. It remains to be seen which forces are stronger: alternative or orthodox medicine (resp. the people or the multinationals).

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I don't think the pharmaceutical companies are hiding

anything. Real, legitimate medical reseach has been

conducted and no links between vaccines and autism

have been found. Yes, it is remotely possible that a

vaccine may kill you. However, it is much more

possible that, while you're driving your car, you get

in an accident and die, yet people continue to drive

their children around. The only way to eradicate

serious diseases is to vaccinate against them. This

prevents them from spreading worldwide. Many school

districts (in the US anyway) will not admit children

without the proper vaccinations. I am not familiar

with the laws in the UK, where this has become a large

debate. When I decide to have children, they will be

vaccinated because I feel there is no medical reason

not to.

--- Nunnally <dezign4you@...> wrote:

> Celeste,

>

> There was just a special on television about this.

> There are a lot of people that believe that the

> mercury that was in the vaccinations caused

> perfectly

> normal healthy children to become autistic. Of

> course, the drug companies would never admit to this

> so there is a big legal debate over it. That's only

> one reason that I know of but I think there are

> others.

>

>

>

> --- " L. Mattier " <jennylaura99@...>

> wrote:

> > Why wouldn't someone vaccinate their children?!

> >

> >

> > --- Pierce <karlynn17@...> wrote:

> > > Gracia,

> > > Thanks for sharing that testimony. I need to

> > > research all of this soon b/c

> > > I'm having a baby in October. I'm so unsure

> about

> > > what to do (leaning

> > > toward not vaccinating). I certainly need to

> > > educate myself and then make a

> > > decision. Does anyone else have an opinion

> either

> > > way? I know this is kind

> > > of unrelated to the group, but I would

> appreciate

> > > any imput.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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,

Since your so confident that there is no link between

autism and vaccinating, what do you have to back these

statements up with? Is there somewhere I could find

the " real legitimate medical research " you are

referring to? Believe it or not, hundreds of years ago

vaccinations did not exist and neither did

antibiotics. Maybe, just maybe, our bodies are

capable of developing immunity to these diseases.

Thank you.

--- " L. Mattier " <jennylaura99@...>

wrote:

> I don't think the pharmaceutical companies are

> hiding

> anything. Real, legitimate medical reseach has been

> conducted and no links between vaccines and autism

> have been found. Yes, it is remotely possible that a

> vaccine may kill you. However, it is much more

> possible that, while you're driving your car, you

> get

> in an accident and die, yet people continue to drive

> their children around. The only way to eradicate

> serious diseases is to vaccinate against them. This

> prevents them from spreading worldwide. Many school

> districts (in the US anyway) will not admit children

> without the proper vaccinations. I am not familiar

> with the laws in the UK, where this has become a

> large

> debate. When I decide to have children, they will be

> vaccinated because I feel there is no medical reason

> not to.

>

> --- Nunnally <dezign4you@...> wrote:

> > Celeste,

> >

> > There was just a special on television about this.

>

> > There are a lot of people that believe that the

> > mercury that was in the vaccinations caused

> > perfectly

> > normal healthy children to become autistic. Of

> > course, the drug companies would never admit to

> this

> > so there is a big legal debate over it. That's

> only

> > one reason that I know of but I think there are

> > others.

> >

> >

> >

> > --- " L. Mattier " <jennylaura99@...>

> > wrote:

> > > Why wouldn't someone vaccinate their children?!

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Pierce <karlynn17@...> wrote:

> > > > Gracia,

> > > > Thanks for sharing that testimony. I need to

> > > > research all of this soon b/c

> > > > I'm having a baby in October. I'm so unsure

> > about

> > > > what to do (leaning

> > > > toward not vaccinating). I certainly need to

> > > > educate myself and then make a

> > > > decision. Does anyone else have an opinion

> > either

> > > > way? I know this is kind

> > > > of unrelated to the group, but I would

> > appreciate

> > > > any imput.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

_________________________________________________________________

> > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at

> > > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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I'd be happy to email some journal articles to you. As

a college student, I have access to libraries full of

research. Just let me know if you'd like some.

~

--- Nunnally <dezign4you@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Since your so confident that there is no link

> between

> autism and vaccinating, what do you have to back

> these

> statements up with? Is there somewhere I could find

> the " real legitimate medical research " you are

> referring to? Believe it or not, hundreds of years

> ago

> vaccinations did not exist and neither did

> antibiotics. Maybe, just maybe, our bodies are

> capable of developing immunity to these diseases.

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

>

> --- " L. Mattier " <jennylaura99@...>

> wrote:

> > I don't think the pharmaceutical companies are

> > hiding

> > anything. Real, legitimate medical reseach has

> been

> > conducted and no links between vaccines and autism

> > have been found. Yes, it is remotely possible that

> a

> > vaccine may kill you. However, it is much more

> > possible that, while you're driving your car, you

> > get

> > in an accident and die, yet people continue to

> drive

> > their children around. The only way to eradicate

> > serious diseases is to vaccinate against them.

> This

> > prevents them from spreading worldwide. Many

> school

> > districts (in the US anyway) will not admit

> children

> > without the proper vaccinations. I am not familiar

> > with the laws in the UK, where this has become a

> > large

> > debate. When I decide to have children, they will

> be

> > vaccinated because I feel there is no medical

> reason

> > not to.

> >

> > --- Nunnally <dezign4you@...> wrote:

> > > Celeste,

> > >

> > > There was just a special on television about

> this.

> >

> > > There are a lot of people that believe that the

> > > mercury that was in the vaccinations caused

> > > perfectly

> > > normal healthy children to become autistic. Of

> > > course, the drug companies would never admit to

> > this

> > > so there is a big legal debate over it. That's

> > only

> > > one reason that I know of but I think there are

> > > others.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- " L. Mattier "

> <jennylaura99@...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Why wouldn't someone vaccinate their

> children?!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- Pierce <karlynn17@...>

> wrote:

> > > > > Gracia,

> > > > > Thanks for sharing that testimony. I need

> to

> > > > > research all of this soon b/c

> > > > > I'm having a baby in October. I'm so unsure

> > > about

> > > > > what to do (leaning

> > > > > toward not vaccinating). I certainly need

> to

> > > > > educate myself and then make a

> > > > > decision. Does anyone else have an opinion

> > > either

> > > > > way? I know this is kind

> > > > > of unrelated to the group, but I would

> > > appreciate

> > > > > any imput.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

_________________________________________________________________

> > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at

> > > > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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I'd be happy to email some journal articles to you. As

a college student, I have access to libraries full of

research. Just let me know if you'd like some.

~

--- Nunnally <dezign4you@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Since your so confident that there is no link

> between

> autism and vaccinating, what do you have to back

> these

> statements up with? Is there somewhere I could find

> the " real legitimate medical research " you are

> referring to? Believe it or not, hundreds of years

> ago

> vaccinations did not exist and neither did

> antibiotics. Maybe, just maybe, our bodies are

> capable of developing immunity to these diseases.

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

>

> --- " L. Mattier " <jennylaura99@...>

> wrote:

> > I don't think the pharmaceutical companies are

> > hiding

> > anything. Real, legitimate medical reseach has

> been

> > conducted and no links between vaccines and autism

> > have been found. Yes, it is remotely possible that

> a

> > vaccine may kill you. However, it is much more

> > possible that, while you're driving your car, you

> > get

> > in an accident and die, yet people continue to

> drive

> > their children around. The only way to eradicate

> > serious diseases is to vaccinate against them.

> This

> > prevents them from spreading worldwide. Many

> school

> > districts (in the US anyway) will not admit

> children

> > without the proper vaccinations. I am not familiar

> > with the laws in the UK, where this has become a

> > large

> > debate. When I decide to have children, they will

> be

> > vaccinated because I feel there is no medical

> reason

> > not to.

> >

> > --- Nunnally <dezign4you@...> wrote:

> > > Celeste,

> > >

> > > There was just a special on television about

> this.

> >

> > > There are a lot of people that believe that the

> > > mercury that was in the vaccinations caused

> > > perfectly

> > > normal healthy children to become autistic. Of

> > > course, the drug companies would never admit to

> > this

> > > so there is a big legal debate over it. That's

> > only

> > > one reason that I know of but I think there are

> > > others.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- " L. Mattier "

> <jennylaura99@...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Why wouldn't someone vaccinate their

> children?!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- Pierce <karlynn17@...>

> wrote:

> > > > > Gracia,

> > > > > Thanks for sharing that testimony. I need

> to

> > > > > research all of this soon b/c

> > > > > I'm having a baby in October. I'm so unsure

> > > about

> > > > > what to do (leaning

> > > > > toward not vaccinating). I certainly need

> to

> > > > > educate myself and then make a

> > > > > decision. Does anyone else have an opinion

> > > either

> > > > > way? I know this is kind

> > > > > of unrelated to the group, but I would

> > > appreciate

> > > > > any imput.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

_________________________________________________________________

> > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at

> > > > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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I'd like to see them. Kathy

----- Original Message -----

From: L. Mattier <jennylaura99@...>

> I'd be happy to email some journal articles to you. As

> a college student, I have access to libraries full of

> research. Just let me know if you'd like some.

>

> ~

>

> --- Nunnally <dezign4you@...> wrote:

> > ,

> >

> > Since your so confident that there is no link

> > between

> > autism and vaccinating, what do you have to back

> > these

> > statements up with? Is there somewhere I could find

> > the " real legitimate medical research " you are

> > referring to? Believe it or not, hundreds of years

> > ago

> > vaccinations did not exist and neither did

> > antibiotics. Maybe, just maybe, our bodies are

> > capable of developing immunity to these diseases.

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> >

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Unfortunately a lot of the 'research " is paid for by the drug companies.

NEJM just did an article on this conflict of interest.

> I'd like to see them. Kathy

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: L. Mattier <jennylaura99@...>

>

>

>

> > I'd be happy to email some journal articles to you. As

> > a college student, I have access to libraries full of

> > research. Just let me know if you'd like some.

> >

> > ~

> >

> > --- Nunnally <dezign4you@...> wrote:

> > > ,

> > >

> > > Since your so confident that there is no link

> > > between

> > > autism and vaccinating, what do you have to back

> > > these

> > > statements up with? Is there somewhere I could find

> > > the " real legitimate medical research " you are

> > > referring to? Believe it or not, hundreds of years

> > > ago

> > > vaccinations did not exist and neither did

> > > antibiotics. Maybe, just maybe, our bodies are

> > > capable of developing immunity to these diseases.

> > >

> > > Thank you.

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

>

>

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   From: "myangel812002" <CollScoot1@...>

Subject: hepatitis vaccines

Anyone who received hepatitis vaccines with diagnosis of AIH, please email me.  Were there any side effects?  I heard that severe platelet drop can occur as well as rare neurological side effects.  My platelet count is already low at 60,000.  Thanks!

My doctor said I needed the Hepatitis A & B vaccines, as anyone with AIH would have difficulty if they contracted A or B in addition. I'm interested to hear that Prednisone is not a good idea with the vaccines. I expect to take Prednisone for the rest of my life, and I was taking about 60 mg when I began the Hepatitis A/B series of vaccinations. Hmmm. My doctor is supposed to be something of a specialist in AIH. Well, I got through the vaccinations okay.

Harper

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This thread of vaccines is very interesting to me. A few years ago, there was a child who passed HepA to one of our teachers. He was out for nearly 6 weeks, then only he could use one of the staff bathrooms. This was sort of frightening.

However, since developing AIH, it is more frightening than ever. Our school population is very impoverished, and these little ones often don't have the best hygiene in the world. I just make certain that I wash LOTS and don't allow myself as close contact to their faces as I once did.

This year, I don't know if I shared it, but the teacher in the room next to mine (we have an open room plan) has a child with a history of TB. Our classes interact 3 times a week with each other. I think of all of the things that have come around, this one frightenes me the most.....I am just going to have to be certain that I don't press myself too much.

Yesterday, I worked 11 hours in my classroom and am extremely tired today. I am going to have to limit my time in the room to just the regular hours....well...except for some Friday's or when it is really necessary to stay late. I have promised myself that this year is going to be a healthy year!

debby

hepatitis vaccines Anyone who received hepatitis vaccines with diagnosis of AIH, please email me. Were there any side effects? I heard that severe platelet drop can occur as well as rare neurological side effects. My platelet count is already low at 60,000. Thanks! My doctor said I needed the Hepatitis A & B vaccines, as anyone with AIH would have difficulty if they contracted A or B in addition. I'm interested to hear that Prednisone is not a good idea with the vaccines. I expect to take Prednisone for the rest of my life, and I was taking about 60 mg when I began the Hepatitis A/B series of vaccinations. Hmmm. My doctor is supposed to be something of a specialist in AIH. Well, I got through the vaccinations okay. Harper

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Harper-my hepatologist said the same thing-that I should start on the hep B

vaccine, then take the hep A. That's what I plan to do . Cathie

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>

>Subject: Re: [ ] Vaccines

>Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 23:57:12 EDT

>

>   From: " myangel812002 " <CollScoot1@...>

>Subject: hepatitis vaccines

>Anyone who received hepatitis vaccines with diagnosis of AIH, please email

>me.  Were there any side effects?  I heard that severe platelet drop can

>occur as well as rare neurological side effects.  My

>platelet count is already low at 60,000.  Thanks!

>

>My doctor said I needed the Hepatitis A & B vaccines, as anyone with AIH

>would have difficulty if they contracted A or B in addition. I'm

>interested

>to hear that Prednisone is not a good idea with the vaccines. I expect to

>take Prednisone for the rest of my life, and I was taking about 60 mg when

>I

>began the Hepatitis A/B series of vaccinations. Hmmm. My doctor is

>supposed

>to be something of a specialist in AIH. Well, I got through the

>vaccinations

>okay.

>Harper

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Whenever I can I love to travel to " third world " countries; it's part

of my job sometimes. Usually vaccines are recommended or required.

Most of the criticism of vaccines are centered around children, which

is a different issure for me.

This interview you posted went into some detail.

One thing he and others say is that diseases have become less

widespread because of better sanitation. Many of the coutnreis I go to

DO NOT have good sanitation.

Also, I have little control over my diet when I travel, as I am with a

team and we all eat the same food.

I ended up taking the vaccines. I don't know if it was the right

choice, but I haven't had anyone explain to me what my alternatives

would be in my situation.

- T

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Tamara wrote:

>

> Whenever I can I love to travel to " third world " countries; it's

part> of my job sometimes. Usually vaccines are recommended or

required. Most of the criticism of vaccines are centered around

children, which is a different issue for me.

==>Go to www.mercola.com and do a search for information about the

dangers of vaccines for anyone, not just children.

<snip>

> I ended up taking the vaccines. I don't know if it was the right

> choice, but I haven't had anyone explain to me what my alternatives

> would be in my situation.

==>Garlic is your best defense against any diseases. Dr. Mercola also

suggests alternatives to vaccines at his site.

Bee

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great but look at all the new chronic " diseases " that we suffer from instead.

then there is MRSA and other new infections. I think it may make more sense to

improve our immune systems without vaccines. this generation is less healthy

than the preceding ones.

Gracia

Coincidentally, this floated in across the transom today. - Chuck

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071113165636.htm

A comparison of illness and death rates for 13 vaccine-preventable

diseases in the U.S., before and after use of the vaccine, indicates

there have been significant decreases in the number of cases,

hospitalizations and deaths for each of the diseases examined, according

to a new study.

In the United States, vaccination programs have made a major

contribution to the elimination of many vaccine-preventable diseases and

significantly reduced the incidence of others. " Vaccine-preventable

diseases have societal and economic costs in addition to the morbidity

and premature deaths resulting from these diseases--the costs include

missed time from school and work, physician office visits, and

hospitalizations, " the authors write. National recommendations provide

guidance for use of vaccines to prevent or eliminate 17

vaccine-preventable diseases.

W. Roush, M.T., M.P.H., of the Centers for Disease Control and

Prevention, Atlanta, and colleagues with the Vaccine-Preventable Disease

Table Working Group, examined the illness and death rates before and

after widespread implementation of national vaccine recommendations (in

place before 2005) for 13 vaccine-preventable diseases. The diseases

were diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, poliomyelitis, measles, mumps,

rubella (including congenital rubella syndrome), invasive Haemophilus

influenzae type b (Hib), acute hepatitis B, hepatitis A, varicella

(chickenpox), Streptococcus pneumoniae and smallpox.

For eight diseases for which a vaccine was licensed or recommended prior

to 1980, the comparison of the period before national vaccination

recommendations vs. the 2006 number of reported cases shows greater than

99 percent declines in the number of cases for diphtheria (100 percent),

measles (99.9 percent), paralytic poliomyelitis (100 percent), rubella

(99.9 percent), congenital rubella syndrome (99.3 percent), and smallpox

(100 percent). Smallpox has been eradicated worldwide, and endemic

transmission of poliovirus, measles virus, and rubella virus has been

eliminated in the United States. There were no reported deaths due to

diphtheria, measles, mumps, paralytic poliomyelitis, or rubella; deaths

due to congenital rubella syndrome are not reported. The decline in

cases of mumps was 95.9 percent, of tetanus 92.9 percent, and of

pertussis 92.2 percent. The decline in tetanus deaths was 99.2 percent

and in pertussis deaths 99.3 percent.

For five diseases for which a vaccine was licensed or recommended after

1980 but before 2005, cases of invasive Hib disease declined 99.8

percent or greater and deaths declined 99.5 percent or greater; for

hepatitis A, reduction in cases was 87.0 percent, deaths 86.9 percent; a

decrease of 80.1 percent in cases and 80.2 percent in deaths for acute

hepatitis B; a decline of 34.1 percent in cases and 25.4 percent in

deaths for invasive pneumococcal disease; and a reduction of 85.0

percent in cases and 81.9 percent in deaths for varicella.

Hospitalizations declined by 87.0 percent for hepatitis A, 80.1 percent

for acute hepatitis B, and 88.0 percent for varicella.

" The number of cases of most vaccine-preventable diseases is at an

all-time low; hospitalizations and deaths from vaccine-preventable

diseases have also shown striking decreases. These achievements are

largely due to reaching and maintaining high vaccine coverage levels

from infancy throughout childhood by successful implementation of the

infant and childhood immunization program, " the authors write.

" Vaccines are one of the greatest achievements of biomedical science and

public health. Continued efforts to improve the efficacy and safety of

vaccines and vaccine coverage among all age groups will provide overall

public health benefit. The challenges in vaccine development, vaccine

financing, surveillance, assessment, and vaccine delivery are

opportunities for the future, " the authors conclude.

Reference for journal article: JAMA. 2007;298(18):2155-2163.

Adapted from materials provided by JAMA and Archives Journals.

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Thanks for a timely update. But I hope you know that some people aren't

going to let the facts interfere with their opinions! [ggg]

>

> Vaccines

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>

> Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:43 pm (PST)

>

> Coincidentally, this floated in across the transom today. - Chuck

>

> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071113165636.htm

> <http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071113165636.htm>

>

> A comparison of illness and death rates for 13 vaccine-preventable

> diseases in the U.S., before and after use of the vaccine, indicates

> there have been significant decreases in the number of cases,

> hospitalizations and deaths for each of the diseases examined,

> according

> to a new study.

>

> In the United States, vaccination programs have made a major

> contribution to the elimination of many vaccine-preventable

> diseases and

> significantly reduced the incidence of others. " Vaccine-preventable

> diseases have societal and economic costs in addition to the

> morbidity

> and premature deaths resulting from these diseases--the costs include

> missed time from school and work, physician office visits, and

> hospitalizations, " the authors write. National recommendations

> provide

> guidance for use of vaccines to prevent or eliminate 17

> vaccine-preventable diseases.

>

> W. Roush, M.T., M.P.H., of the Centers for Disease Control and

> Prevention, Atlanta, and colleagues with the Vaccine-Preventable

> Disease

> Table Working Group, examined the illness and death rates before and

> after widespread implementation of national vaccine

> recommendations (in

> place before 2005) for 13 vaccine-preventable diseases. The diseases

> were diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, poliomyelitis, measles, mumps,

> rubella (including congenital rubella syndrome), invasive Haemophilus

> influenzae type b (Hib), acute hepatitis B, hepatitis A, varicella

> (chickenpox), Streptococcus pneumoniae and smallpox.

>

> For eight diseases for which a vaccine was licensed or recommended

> prior

> to 1980, the comparison of the period before national vaccination

> recommendations vs. the 2006 number of reported cases shows

> greater than

> 99 percent declines in the number of cases for diphtheria (100

> percent),

> measles (99.9 percent), paralytic poliomyelitis (100 percent),

> rubella

> (99.9 percent), congenital rubella syndrome (99.3 percent), and

> smallpox

> (100 percent). Smallpox has been eradicated worldwide, and endemic

> transmission of poliovirus, measles virus, and rubella virus has been

> eliminated in the United States. There were no reported deaths due to

> diphtheria, measles, mumps, paralytic poliomyelitis, or rubella;

> deaths

> due to congenital rubella syndrome are not reported. The decline in

> cases of mumps was 95.9 percent, of tetanus 92.9 percent, and of

> pertussis 92.2 percent. The decline in tetanus deaths was 99.2

> percent

> and in pertussis deaths 99.3 percent.

>

> For five diseases for which a vaccine was licensed or recommended

> after

> 1980 but before 2005, cases of invasive Hib disease declined 99.8

> percent or greater and deaths declined 99.5 percent or greater; for

> hepatitis A, reduction in cases was 87.0 percent, deaths 86.9

> percent; a

> decrease of 80.1 percent in cases and 80.2 percent in deaths for

> acute

> hepatitis B; a decline of 34.1 percent in cases and 25.4 percent in

> deaths for invasive pneumococcal disease; and a reduction of 85.0

> percent in cases and 81.9 percent in deaths for varicella.

> Hospitalizations declined by 87.0 percent for hepatitis A, 80.1

> percent

> for acute hepatitis B, and 88.0 percent for varicella.

>

> " The number of cases of most vaccine-preventable diseases is at an

> all-time low; hospitalizations and deaths from vaccine-preventable

> diseases have also shown striking decreases. These achievements are

> largely due to reaching and maintaining high vaccine coverage levels

> from infancy throughout childhood by successful implementation of the

> infant and childhood immunization program, " the authors write.

>

> " Vaccines are one of the greatest achievements of biomedical

> science and

> public health. Continued efforts to improve the efficacy and

> safety of

> vaccines and vaccine coverage among all age groups will provide

> overall

> public health benefit. The challenges in vaccine development, vaccine

> financing, surveillance, assessment, and vaccine delivery are

> opportunities for the future, " the authors conclude.

>

> Reference for journal article: JAMA. 2007;298(18):2155-2163.

>

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Is this study peer reviewed:)

-- Vaccines

Coincidentally, this floated in across the transom today. - Chuck

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071113165636.htm

A comparison of illness and death rates for 13 vaccine-preventable

diseases in the U.S., before and after use of the vaccine, indicates

there have been significant decreases in the number of cases,

hospitalizations and deaths for each of the diseases examined, according

to a new study.

In the United States, vaccination programs have made a major

contribution to the elimination of many vaccine-preventable diseases and

significantly reduced the incidence of others. " Vaccine-preventable

diseases have societal and economic costs in addition to the morbidity

and premature deaths resulting from these diseases--the costs include

missed time from school and work, physician office visits, and

hospitalizations, " the authors write. National recommendations provide

guidance for use of vaccines to prevent or eliminate 17

vaccine-preventable diseases.

W. Roush, M.T., M.P.H., of the Centers for Disease Control and

Prevention, Atlanta, and colleagues with the Vaccine-Preventable Disease

Table Working Group, examined the illness and death rates before and

after widespread implementation of national vaccine recommendations (in

place before 2005) for 13 vaccine-preventable diseases. The diseases

were diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, poliomyelitis, measles, mumps,

rubella (including congenital rubella syndrome), invasive Haemophilus

influenzae type b (Hib), acute hepatitis B, hepatitis A, varicella

(chickenpox), Streptococcus pneumoniae and smallpox.

For eight diseases for which a vaccine was licensed or recommended prior

to 1980, the comparison of the period before national vaccination

recommendations vs. the 2006 number of reported cases shows greater than

99 percent declines in the number of cases for diphtheria (100 percent),

measles (99.9 percent), paralytic poliomyelitis (100 percent), rubella

(99.9 percent), congenital rubella syndrome (99.3 percent), and smallpox

(100 percent). Smallpox has been eradicated worldwide, and endemic

transmission of poliovirus, measles virus, and rubella virus has been

eliminated in the United States. There were no reported deaths due to

diphtheria, measles, mumps, paralytic poliomyelitis, or rubella; deaths

due to congenital rubella syndrome are not reported. The decline in

cases of mumps was 95.9 percent, of tetanus 92.9 percent, and of

pertussis 92.2 percent. The decline in tetanus deaths was 99.2 percent

and in pertussis deaths 99.3 percent.

For five diseases for which a vaccine was licensed or recommended after

1980 but before 2005, cases of invasive Hib disease declined 99.8

percent or greater and deaths declined 99.5 percent or greater; for

hepatitis A, reduction in cases was 87.0 percent, deaths 86.9 percent; a

decrease of 80.1 percent in cases and 80.2 percent in deaths for acute

hepatitis B; a decline of 34.1 percent in cases and 25.4 percent in

deaths for invasive pneumococcal disease; and a reduction of 85.0

percent in cases and 81.9 percent in deaths for varicella.

Hospitalizations declined by 87.0 percent for hepatitis A, 80.1 percent

for acute hepatitis B, and 88.0 percent for varicella.

" The number of cases of most vaccine-preventable diseases is at an

all-time low; hospitalizations and deaths from vaccine-preventable

diseases have also shown striking decreases. These achievements are

largely due to reaching and maintaining high vaccine coverage levels

from infancy throughout childhood by successful implementation of the

infant and childhood immunization program, " the authors write.

" Vaccines are one of the greatest achievements of biomedical science and

public health. Continued efforts to improve the efficacy and safety of

vaccines and vaccine coverage among all age groups will provide overall

public health benefit. The challenges in vaccine development, vaccine

financing, surveillance, assessment, and vaccine delivery are

opportunities for the future, " the authors conclude.

Reference for journal article: JAMA. 2007;298(18):2155-2163.

Adapted from materials provided by JAMA and Archives Journals.

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Crystal wrote:

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>

> Is this study peer reviewed:)

>

Actually, yes, at least the numbers are from such studies. Science Daily

is journalism, but it is reporting on papers that have met archival

standards.

Chuck

>...JAMA. 2007;298(18):2155-2163.

>

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I think that we should stay away from people who have had live virus vaccine

-- not just having it ourselves. I have to be away from the computer for a few

hours, so I can't check right now. Perhaps someone else can come up with an

answer in the meantime.

H.

In a message dated 8/9/08 10:16:01 AM, JJCATHCART@... writes:

> . Also, we need stay away from people who have had

> recent live virus vaccinations. Harper, Are you sure??????? My docs never

> said that....just that WE can't have any vaccinations made from LIVE

> virus....... recent live virus vaccinations. Harper, Are you sure??????? My

docs never

> said that....just that WE can't have any vaccinations made from LIVE

> virus.......<wbr>.except the flu.the flu shot is not only fine but is

mandatory.

> Anyone else told that? I am curious. , You have worked around those

kids

> for so long not to worry. If you get sick.you get sick and w

>

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I did a very quick Google (must leave the computer now) and immediately found

a reference to children with suppressed immune systems AND THEIR FAMILIES

avoiding live virus vaccines. It was a PDF, and I don't have time right now to

copy. Their may be subtleties that I didn't pick up on. Others may be able to

respond before I can again.

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From drugs.com:

" Do not receive a " live " vaccine while you are being treated with

azathioprine and avoid coming into contact with anyone who has recently received

a live

vaccine. There is a chance that the virus could be passed on to you. "

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My friends are looking for a pediatrician but have been turned away since they

don't vaccinate. Is this legal for doctors to do? How will she ever get a ped.

doc to see her kids "

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