Re: homeopth and infection

January 12, 2011

I have done sequential homeopathy in combination with classical homeopathy and

nothing has helped so far. It has been one year already. We have been doing

Tinus Smits CEASE protocol. It hasnt helped at all.

>

> Hi, All

>

> I am wondering anyone here who has done homeopth ( sqential detox or classic

homeopth), from your experience, if you did not get much improvement from

> homeopth treatment, what might be the factor that interfere the success,

infection,

> parasite or other factors?

>

> Thanks for sharing your experience.

>

> --- Yi

>

January 12, 2011

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Â Hi, Rochelle

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Â Can you tell me which homeopathist you have seen for cease therapy? What is

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From: rochelle b <mcroche2002@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: homeopth and infection

Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 12:21 PM

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I have done sequential homeopathy in combination with classical homeopathy and

nothing has helped so far. It has been one year already. We have been doing

Tinus Smits CEASE protocol. It hasnt helped at all.

>

> Hi, All

> Â

> I am wondering anyone here who has done homeopth ( sqential detox or classic

homeopth), from your experience, if you did not get much improvement Â from

> homeopth treatment, what might be the factor that interfere the success,

infection,

> parasite or other factors?

> Â

> Thanks for sharing your experience.

> Â

> --- Yi

>

January 12, 2011

The third time we tried classical homeopathy, we saw gains. We could go off some

supps, and saw many gains that were subtle but really made a difference. More

patience, making jokes, reading other people better. We'd been chelating, too.

My son lost his dx in the fall, a few months after we started homeopathy, and

about 19 months of chelation (slow chelation every other weekend at most,

skipped a month when we moved). We still chelate, and still do classical

homeopathy. NOTE: we use homeopathy for healing - of our son as a whole being,

we do not use homeopathy intended for " chelation " .

>

> Hi, All

>

> I am wondering anyone here who has done homeopth ( sqential detox or classic

homeopth), from your experience, if you did not get much improvement from

> homeopth treatment, what might be the factor that interfere the success,

infection,

> parasite or other factors?

>

> Thanks for sharing your experience.

>

> --- Yi

>

January 12, 2011

, I know some people who do or did homeopathy too. When I heard some of

them stopped chelating and some supplements, I knew they'd improve and possibly

credit the wrong thing. I know from experience that taking a break from

chelation (and sometimes from supplements) brings improvement for people in our

family. After three weeks or so our bodies seem to balance somewhat and we see

the fruit of our efforts.

For what it's worth...

Liz

> >

> > Hi, All

> >

> > I am wondering anyone here who has done homeopth ( sqential detox or classic

homeopth), from your experience, if you did not get much improvement from

> > homeopth treatment, what might be the factor that interfere the success,

infection,

> > parasite or other factors?

> >

> > Thanks for sharing your experience.

> >

> > --- Yi

> >

January 13, 2011

This is an important point. I've heard other parents' say their child improved

after stopping chelation for a few weeks. Andy says some people need a break to

realize the gains.

It was surprising to me at the time as ours would lose ground unless she was

chelated every week.

R

> > >

> > > Hi, All

> > >

> > > I am wondering anyone here who has done homeopth ( sqential detox or

classic homeopth), from your experience, if you did not get much improvement

from

> > > homeopth treatment, what might be the factor that interfere the success,

infection,

> > > parasite or other factors?

> > >

> > > Thanks for sharing your experience.

> > >

> > > --- Yi

> > >

January 13, 2011

No, I wasn't clear. We STILL chelate, and take a few supplements here and there.

My child is no longer " autistic " in any sense, but he still shows high in some

metals in his hair test. His hair test after 2 years of chelation and losing his

diagnosis no longer meets any counting rules. I wasn't clear: SINCE we added

homeopathy, my son no longer NEEDS to take 25+ supplements numerous times per

day to maintain his " non-autistic " status.

My son was recovered, on a PILE of supplements. After classical homeopathy was

added, we could totally remove all supplements and he maintained his 'NT'

status. When he first regressed - if we were late on supps (we had to dose 4x

per day) you could tell within 1/2 an hour because he would became completely

unmanageable. This wasn't a " break " , we stopped everything for months - AFTER he

was cleared of his diagnoses.

I do not in any way say homeopathy " recovered " my son, and most CERTAINLY

homeopathy did NOT chelate my child. ALA and me dragging my ass out of bed to

give it to him every 3 hours did that. Homeopathy has been necessary for my son

to heal, from all kinds of damage, but it won't chelate, nor IMO, recover. It

will IMO, help overall health and healing.

That's why for us, I don't think it worked the first 2 times - we hadn't

chelated yet. I feel you MUST chelate, to have a chance to heal our kids, if

they are metal toxic. In fact, I'm amazed at how many people have tests showing

their kids ARE metal toxic who don't chelate. Why would you ever leave those

toxins in your child? And why make yourself crazy battling yeast, trying to get

therapies to sink in, trying to get their immune systems working right, etc,

etc, when their brains that run the whole show are poisoned with toxic metals?

That's the root problem.

However, once we started reaching a point where my son was indistinguishable

from his peers and his dx was removed and he had nothing left to accomplish in

any therapy, but he still wasn't healthy as he should be, and we had to watch

his diet like a hawk and was only " NT " on piles of supplements, that's when we

added homeopathy (we hadn't taken a break at that point), and things just

started changing suddenly. He had all kinds of weird stuff happen - viral wise,

but we weren't on anything remotely anti-viral. It was similar to when we did

anti-viral protocols. We had emotional things change, huge break thoughs in his

ability to discuss the PTSD fears (though not in therapy for it at the time, as

we were stuck on a waiting list) and suddenly one day as I was muscle testing

him, he didn't need any supplements. It wasn't gradual. Oddly, he also refused

to take any supps the day before that, saying they tasted " funny " . So, I stopped

everything, just to see. He actually had a small backslide gradually over 3

weeks, which freaked me out, but he spit out everything I tried to give him.

And then it stopped and he charged forward for a few weeks, leveled out and was

fine. And has been, since. I give him what he tests for as far as supps and

usually it's very few, (not all of these each day) tiny bit of B complex (stress

from PTSD), a small amount of mag and zinc, a bit of C, and D (it's winter),

milk thistle (I make him take this daily because of chelation), and ashwaganda.

Sometimes he needs one GSE tablet, usually by the end of a round, and one or two

Culturelle, the day later. But his body is so much healthier now and can handle

things. He doesn't get all these supps every day, only what he (muscle) tests

for and in MUCH smaller amounts than he needed before. We chelate ALA only,

every other weekend. If he refuses to take mag and C and zinc those weeks, he

feels lousy, so now he does.

(Recovered kids discover their autonomy, and want to use it!)

I give him a regular kids all natural chewable multi to fill in, just like any

other health conscious mom. We eat out wherever we want, once or twice a week,

without issue, with one AFP chewable, just in case. At home, I cook from

scratch, unprocessed, non-GMO and organic for all his other meals (breakfast,

lunch, and dinner).

My son still has a soy sensitivity and still battles with parasites - so I

suspect (and the hair test shows) we still have some chelation to do. Besides

PTSD - which is being resolved through holistic Somatic approach to mind/body

psychology, EMDR, therapies, and homeopathy, my son has no other dx's at this

time. At one time he was diagnosed with OCD, ASD, SPD, SAD, PTSD - And that's

how he was - he had all those issues and was unable to function.

For me, I do everything holistically, so mind/body can't be separated when I

approach anything.

My son also had a mess of viral issues that we mostly, though not entirely,

cleared up with OLE, lysine, and Virastop, and still has PTSD, which resulted in

severe adrenal issues. We do not treat those issues specifically with

homeopathy, but those issues are being resolved with classical homeopathy, as

his whole BEING is brought into balance and healing. Everthing I do has an

energy medicine component as well. I know people think it's hogwash, - but I use

muscle testing to determine my son's supplemental needs. The results we have

gotten speak for themselves. I did use this group's guidelines for

supplementation, but that was a starting place. I individualized as needed for

my child, week to week, by muscle testing.

CHELATION recovered my son. Homeopathy is healing the damage - (psychic,

physical, emotional) left behind. That's how things are working for us.

> > >

> > > Hi, All

> > >

> > > I am wondering anyone here who has done homeopth ( sqential detox or

classic homeopth), from your experience, if you did not get much improvement

from

> > > homeopth treatment, what might be the factor that interfere the success,

infection,

> > > parasite or other factors?

> > >

> > > Thanks for sharing your experience.

> > >

> > > --- Yi

> > >

January 13, 2011

Who was your homeopath? Just wondering out loud....

> > > >

> > > > Hi, All

> > > >

> > > > I am wondering anyone here who has done homeopth ( sqential detox or

classic homeopth), from your experience, if you did not get much improvement

from

> > > > homeopth treatment, what might be the factor that interfere the success,

infection,

> > > > parasite or other factors?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for sharing your experience.

> > > >

> > > > --- Yi

> > > >

January 14, 2011

Baker, MD CCH

holisitic natural medicine, classical homeopathy, and board certified in

pediatrics.

We still consult with her.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi, All

> > > > >

> > > > > I am wondering anyone here who has done homeopth ( sqential detox or

classic homeopth), from your experience, if you did not get much improvement

from

> > > > > homeopth treatment, what might be the factor that interfere the

success, infection,

> > > > > parasite or other factors?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for sharing your experience.

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Yi

> > > > >

January 14, 2011

Hello could you please tell me how do you do muscul testing i would like to do

that to suppliment my son and could you tell me how lysin and OLE rid of the

virusses and how i will recognise that viruses are gone and how did you

undurstand that your kid had viruses im doing viral protocol with OLE naw i

replaced with Lysine is that the way it is working have you ever did A protocol

for measles do you stop all supps when you are doing surten protocol .Im ascing

alot of Q about the A protocol as im getting very hard time at home beeing

blamed that i gave too much supps to the kid and that is too dangerous helation

and im realy afraid if something go wrong i will be blamed and not because i

cant handle the arguments but i just want to know what to expect and waht to do

what are the possible wrong situations i just want to be ready to take action on

time instead of panicking.Im realy interested about mussel testing .

Thank you realy much

From: mosaictm <lisa369@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: homeopth and infection

Date: Friday, 14 January, 2011, 1:33