Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Hello All, A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? .. . How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things if not in the world/matter of ethology? I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. Glavic Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so meaningful? .. . I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I Feel as understand How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Justice cannot be served until 1. it is proven that a wrong has been committed. 2. the person or people who are wronged have the power to serve justice or have it served for them. Right now, people with disabilities are considered unfortunate, as are the poor- a social burden that taxpayers must bear. Not only does this degrade them in comparison to taxpayers, it keeps them from being treated. Society provides the absolute minimal intervention enough to make the person a " productive member of society " , if possible. In this way, most taxpayers are satisfied that the disabled are being taken care of. Things that hinder justice from being served are evident above. As long as society views the disabled as having bad genetics, they feel secure about the governments ways of " dealing with them " . As you may have noticed, there are several things the medical community will not, and cannot admit. Food allergies, sensitivities, and intolerances: if the medical community admits these exist (currently they only admit anaphylaxis because it is undeniably obvious), then they will also be forced to answer people's questions as to WHY the prevalence of such problems is so great in the current generations. Candida, yeast: if the medical community admits Candida overgrowth affects more than just a woman's vaginal area (again, the obvious which they cannot deny), then they will also have to explain why people are so imbalanced and why there is constant overgrowth. This will likely lead to discussions of heavy metals toxicity, food intolerance, and detoxification, which they would like to avoid. Metals toxicity: if the medical community does investigative, real, good testing for heavy metals of ANY kind, they will have to admit that heavy metals toxicity still exists and will be expected to treat it using chelation. If it is allowed for so much as one person to receive proper testing and diagnosis for toxic metals poisoning under the direction of the AAP or NIH, the implications could be huge. Instead, these organizations have made sure proper " preventative measures " are put in place to prevent such toxicity and therefore have given themselves an excuse to deny poisoning takes place. , this is what I understand about justice, and why it cannot take place at this time for my child with autism. Liz > > Hello All, > > A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? .. . > > How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how > meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the > better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this > respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things > if not in the world/matter of ethology? > > I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. > > Glavic > > Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so > meaningful? .. . > > I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of > human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as > much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual > justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I > Feel as understand > > How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? > > It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! > > Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Worth repeating Mike > > > > Hello All, > > > > A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? .. . > > > > How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how > > meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the > > better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this > > respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things > > if not in the world/matter of ethology? > > > > I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. > > > > Glavic > > > > Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so > > meaningful? .. . > > > > I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of > > human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as > > much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual > > justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I > > Feel as understand > > > > How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? > > > > It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! > > > > Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Well said, Liz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Hello, I figure that understanding is the absolute (Feeling, of The feeling/s?!. Oh yes, beyond language as we may perhaps know it, for the greater communication, if not Feeling/s, Thereof?) from which everything else is measured if not could be measured (of such control? as criteria?) and that everything else is related to as much (of as much?) and that anything that inhibits as much if not more of as much (that it would be so?) for the Individual of as much, of what understands, that anything else does, (and that it all doesn't connect in that respect, if not socially) is abusive and unjust, to as much, of such truth, that there would or could be any other, and what supports as much, [is] so reasonable and true and virtuous and just, if not so legitimate, I Feel as understand That would somewhat be my sense of It.. . Where you're not accepting of as much or at least tolerant of as much (of such tracks, of Communication? Hello, that I need an artifact, or fantasy) whatever treatment you're on isn't really working so well, as for as much, that there could be anything else so meaningful and just, but I think not, certainly not for the Individual, whatever that would make you otherwise? .. . (The problem, I'm thinking Of such proof, I Am?!. so just.. . I suspect that could move mountains (or criminals/abusers? .. .) where anything can, where out in the *open* I find is the best place for dealing with as much, that that doesn't expose the problem in eliminating it, somewhat? (But I Feel It Does?!. Glavic Volunteer, of Understanding Me thinks I'm also getting the treatments right for as much, (of as much) Thereof, of what I wish for Us, with respect to Justness (of being communicated with and/or being communicated/represented, so? of as much, and not censored otherwise, of abusiveness?!. if not politics, what I often Feel is otherwise of as much in that/this respect) that there ever has been a better measure, but I Feel there hasn't! been, Especially.. . Something to aim for folks, of whether we are being so successful or not, I Feel as understand (I don't believe in you so much otherwise?!. Hello, to Reason over authority, otherwise.. . To Reason, is to be so just, I Feel as understand, of as much as there so reasonably is, I Am, taking things further to Justness, (a greater justice) Thereof, of Feeling as Understanding, and what I wish for Us.. . I also somewhat stay away from abuse where I identify it in prosecuting it, and be so sure I am prosecuting what abuse there is by as much, (not so much for me?) though I also like to think of it also if not especially as *The treatment,* (Where anyone here could be part of the problem?) that any other treatment should matter.. . BWT Hey, if individualizing things is so meaningful to education (educating individuals, with special needs? and who doesn't have special needs) it must be so for everything else, eh? that that wouldn't entail Justness, but I Feel It Does. I more than just wish as much for you.. . > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? .. . > > > > > > How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how > > > meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the > > > better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this > > > respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things > > > if not in the world/matter of ethology? > > > > > > I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. > > > > > > Glavic > > > > > > Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so > > > meaningful? .. . > > > > > > I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of > > > human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as > > > much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual > > > justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I > > > Feel as understand > > > > > > How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? > > > > > > It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! > > > > > > Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 I understand that mercury chelation works and healing my son is part of the justice that he deserves. I also understand that it is not without discomfort and possibly worrisome side effects (the same as the poisoning itself when it occurred). Therefore, I feel uncomfortable or hesitant in suggesting others do the same - beyond mention of it and recommendation of this group. If treatment were easy, the exposure of the wrong that was done would be more evident. > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how > > > > meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the > > > > better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this > > > > respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things > > > > if not in the world/matter of ethology? > > > > > > > > I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. > > > > > > > > Glavic > > > > > > > > Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so > > > > meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of > > > > human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as > > > > much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual > > > > justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I > > > > Feel as understand > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? > > > > > > > > It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! > > > > > > > > Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 I do believe you are serving justice Liz. More than most, by saying what you do amongst other things like-minded, I'm pretty sure.. . You try to make sense of things if not everything (according to your feelings? of interests, that connects with what is yours, to do, no less) and I feel that goes a long way towards serving justice, the justice of being so simplifying and clear that we can all understand more by as much, and benefit from as much (including if not especially those you care for, for as much) that that doesn't also if not especially serve justice for one and All, but I Feel It Does I wish you the best in that respect. I'm finished with my 17th round of ALA chelation, my son now finished his 9th round, that I would let my son try anything (so questionable?) I wouldn't try first.. . I'm not seeing especially much of it and others around me haven't noticed any difference, (that they can tell?) except for the supplements I take along with it seem to be making me more resistant to infection (colds and flu?) I may be quitting it (the more formalized AC protocol) soon, though I have heard ALA is also good for many things, (as a powerful anti-oxidant?) so there really isn't an especially good reason for quitting it altogether I suppose. I might just take it (ALA, and most of the supplements I'm taking) more conveniently, irrespective of the frequent dose thing, and the chelation cycle. It's not that big a deal doing it, compared to so many other things out there, that run with higher risks and greater expense, and less promise, perhaps. Not so random?!. Best wishes in that respect Mike Maybe I got a bad batch of ALA, that my pursuit of justice won't help me discover and deal with as much, but I Feel It will, as good as anything does?!. Here's to you gal I didn't do the hair-analysis so I might not even have a heavy-metal toxicity issue, might be the thing with our situation, that I feel there is anything wrong with me, but with my son, I was hoping to see a bit more movement (preferrably in the right direction) We're not doing so bad as a family? I suppose that should count for a lot, if not everything, somewhat I was hoping for more for my son, (and daughter) that we will be around forever as a family, but maybe we'll go down as a family, having survived and maybe even having had our day that way, (We've had some good times ) that justice won't establish as much, but I'm feeling It will, however that turns out, you understand.. . For all of that I am grateful. > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how > > > > > meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the > > > > > better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this > > > > > respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things > > > > > if not in the world/matter of ethology? > > > > > > > > > > I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. > > > > > > > > > > Glavic > > > > > > > > > > Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so > > > > > meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of > > > > > human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as > > > > > much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual > > > > > justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I > > > > > Feel as understand > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? > > > > > > > > > > It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! > > > > > > > > > > Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 , I am surprised you don't feel as I do - that your brain is coming more into order after each round? I have very strong obsessions followed by deep thoughts or some kind of heightened awareness after each round. In fact, my body craves chelation after taking any kind of break from it. Is your son verbal, can he tell you somehow if chelation is helping him? I have seen more along the lines of cognitive gains than anything else for both him and me. I still had an amalgam when I started chelating my son, but I think I have done around 30 rounds and my children have done 55-60? Trying not to count here because I know it takes a long time. I can tell you with certainty that the first 6 months of chelation for us was horrible and I hated every minute of it. I did question whether my son was responding because there was little other than negative behaviors to notice. It wasn't until we got sick and had a long two month break that I noticed major changes in him. Since then, I encouraged others to take a break if they were discouraged, and they have witnessed great improvement during the break. Your body will let you know if you should go back to it, and your children's bodies will. Just listen. I wish you the best. Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how > > > > > > meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the > > > > > > better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this > > > > > > respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things > > > > > > if not in the world/matter of ethology? > > > > > > > > > > > > I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Glavic > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so > > > > > > meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of > > > > > > human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as > > > > > > much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual > > > > > > justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I > > > > > > Feel as understand > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Hi Liz, No, my son is not functionally verbal (unless someone else can figure out what he is saying/needing beyond being happy with what he is taking about? .. . teaser? .. .). That's primarily why I feel compelled to try for myself many of the things we try on him. Taking that break you speak of might be in order. I wasn't aware of the phenomena (typical phenomena, typical or not?) with respect to chelation. Judge for yourself my mind creativity/objectivity, that I have been letting off on that here of such creativity/objectivity, but I assure you I haven't? .. . No, I'm not feeling especially different, can't you tell? .. . (I felt my ship arrived some time ago in this respect?!. Thanks for your insight and support Liz, and great opportunity to repeat and impress upon what is so meaningful and helpful for justness, that many of us don't need such repetition, but I Feel we do.. . I may be encouraging the experts on this board in that respect, (me being one of my own?!.) including you, that I haven't got a warm spot for repetition, sheesh. Some of the best minds here are repeaters, that that isn't also if not especially part of what needs to be done as prioritized, that we are all so cognitive? (sheesh) Bear with me in that respect?!. (I like/d hearing from you.. . I find you so stimulating, and I more than wish that for others Of such treatment I Am?!. Mike Glavic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how > > > > > > > meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the > > > > > > > better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this > > > > > > > respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things > > > > > > > if not in the world/matter of ethology? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glavic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so > > > > > > > meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of > > > > > > > human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as > > > > > > > much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual > > > > > > > justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I > > > > > > > Feel as understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Liz and All? Perhaps I should elaborate, (add) for the less cognitive amongst us? that I'm not repeating for language accuracy (a set, programming, language, that that's what a living/interpretive language really is about. Not, I Feel) though perhaps very useful for a state otherwise, otherwise of Communication/Individual communication, if not such communication?) so much anymore.. . though I'm not trying to get it, off? wrong, but I might be doing that next (of what could be so, right? .. . relative to what I teach?) that we could be more calculating in putting puzzles together, that that's not what I'm (or a greater intelligence is?) primarily about with my repeating, where I find it necessary? .. . Be wary of making your trials perfectly the same as well, that your child will get the wrong message in that respect? and *not* be able to figure very much out for himself of how things really are and work more logically? .. . There's a place for everything, I understand, of going with my understanding, vs knowledge otherwise, be so sure, Thereof? .. . I'm not finding correct (politically correct?) language usage to be all that helpful, essentially, for those more cognitive and for developing the congitive (mind?) function further.. . Perhaps my son is so cognitve in his getting what he needs, of at least it hasn't shut me up? .. . You're welcome to talk to him in that respect, of Communication, that what isn't so evidential (open and honest and direct? for all that there is to be so open and honest and direct about?) is so legitimate, but I Feel it isn't.. . the BSers I find everywhere (otherwise?) and why I have calculated/figure out for my self? that justness would be the thing, should be The thing, for a/The greater understanding, Thereof of such facts, I am? that any other should matter, for as much.. . *Tracks,* to you know where and what?!. let us more than hope? Them's The facts, dear, that anything else could be so primary.. . Maybe the chelation has helped me in that respect? (in helping you/us? so reasonably? so justly? against the abuse otherwise?) but *I* thought I was like that before? .. . again, maybe that is proving to be working because most people tend to assume whatever they've invested in tends to be working, though I feel I'm just as, objective as I was before? (but maybe I'm further along with It in that respect? with you? I'd need your input for as much?!. IFAU) *Are* you getting me better? *That* would be meaninful to me.. . I don't feel I'm getting my son any better, but maybe I am? .. . I will have a closer look, thank-you Our whole family seems to be somewhat satified if not satisfying in that respect, is my sense of It, though a break from chelation does seem in order also thanks to you, that I can't learn from as much, but I Feel I Can.. . On more of the universe in a nutshell? One would seem so nutty perhaps, to try to accomplish as much, so much? relative to others, otherwise, I mean, of their criteria? and success? with respect to justice, if not such justice? .. . High end treatment for those who need and deserve as much? that that wouldn't be for every one, but I Feel It Is.. . Cheers? (I'm not expecting to hear any any time soon, *cheers,* I mean.. Justness will do, that anything else should matter Best wishes, Thereof Glavic Analyst I'm going with what I Feel, as understand, that anything else should matter, with respect to Justice, and everything else so meaningful Who says I'm not Connected, and Connecting, by as much?!. (Would be a BSer/abuser? indeed?!. as far as I'm concerned, of as much, Thereof I Feel I have such, control?!. I sort of felt that way before, though, and was hoping for as much for, my son, at least, if not for every one, Thereof? Maybe we shouldn't be defining each other by our language so much? (otherwise of Communication? and Understanding More? and Justness? Oh, my son is very just, just like his dad, perhaps? He is so *not* abusive if that has anything to do with It?) do you think?!. On what I hope for Us.. . that that wouldn't be Feeling, of a feeling, but I understand It Is That the use of a *language* defines the real abusiveness? but I understand better?!. (Much better?) if not to the contrary?!. Censorship (of Communication) is worse, for starters? .. . And Communication, is what you get from as much of Understanding More (for our selves, but what else? .. .) that language would have any more meaningful purpose, to be a language, otherwise? (That it would even be a language in that respect, where not for the justice of communication of understanding more for our selves as Individuals of God? Whoah?!. Of such champion/ing, I Am?!. I Feel I Am You may very well ask me what language I'm responding to, (what form of communication in that respect?) that *justness* (for the Individual, of one and All, Thereof? of such Justness? that there could be any other or anything so meaningful?) isn't The *real* thing in that respect of Communication, of Understanding More, of as much, but I Feel It Is! of what there *really* is, to Understanding More Best wishes in that respect, and not so much otherwise?!. Yes, I Feel Justice has a lot to do with that.. . Be yourself open and honest and direct (not censoring, of your self? where you can be as much when for Understanding More, and not for vengence, or whatever otherwise?) by and for as much I *do* recommend, of treating by and for as much, as I Do, Thereof, as I Feel I Do!?! .. . based on such, Objectivity? (but what else, where not of and for Understanding?!. More/of Communication, Hello, where we are as understanding as we make up our minds to be?!. Abe, baby?) and not less (so much for happiness?!.) I figure that, of such goodness if not justness, also encompasses my children.. . of such results *we* are, so Just!. I Feel as understand.. . that we could ask for anything more?!. (That that doesn't take fact, of such facts, to a *higher* level?!. but I Feel It Does, of what is so, Primary?!. I Feel/Understand More Therefore I Am.. . No, I Feel that didn't entirely come from within.. . If that ain't the puzzle to put the pieces together with I don't Know what Is?!. I tried not to let language hold me back? .. . (On why that, language, might not be so perfect nor have to be so perfect?!. Thanks for the question(s) Liz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how > > > > > > > > meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the > > > > > > > > better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this > > > > > > > > respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things > > > > > > > > if not in the world/matter of ethology? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glavic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so > > > > > > > > meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of > > > > > > > > human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as > > > > > > > > much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual > > > > > > > > justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I > > > > > > > > Feel as understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 , I think I am understanding you better. The way I realize my progress, , is by recognizing my own deficits. I have made the assumption that mercury is to blame for the following because chelating with ALA directly improved these certain things: lack of original/creative thinking, lack of empathy, perseveration, lack of self-esteem, perseveration, feeling of being cold all the time, feeling of insecurity - needing to constantly be in control of people/circumstances, tunnel vision on subjects. In order to determine if your son is having any progress, have you thought of the comparing symptoms you have after chelating to his behaviors or symptoms? My son's perseveration (or obsessions) are greatly increased after chelating as are mine. After my perseveration, I have a period of deep thinking, where I come to certain realizations - for example, realizing the big picture of something or having some kind of breakthrough thought about the research I'd been studying. I have no idea if my son experiences these same things. I do notice that his ability to attend to homeschool lessons and his willingness to participate in more complex lessons is increased. He seems to have a heightened understanding, (or is it motivation?) to carry through with instructions or initiate something that requires planning. Let me know if this makes sense to you or if you have seen something similar, or different. Do you have any symptoms at all when you stop a chelation round? Does your child? Typically my sons and I are all irritable by the third day of chelation and sometimes we have to take lithium orotate for our moods. Do you experience anything like that at your house? Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how > > > > > > > > > meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the > > > > > > > > > better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this > > > > > > > > > respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things > > > > > > > > > if not in the world/matter of ethology? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glavic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so > > > > > > > > > meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of > > > > > > > > > human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as > > > > > > > > > much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual > > > > > > > > > justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I > > > > > > > > > Feel as understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 You seem very experienced in this. Do you take ALA every 3 hours by the clock? I'm curious because some people follow a different schedule. Deb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how > > > > > > > > > meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the > > > > > > > > > better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this > > > > > > > > > respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things > > > > > > > > > if not in the world/matter of ethology? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glavic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so > > > > > > > > > meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of > > > > > > > > > human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as > > > > > > > > > much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual > > > > > > > > > justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I > > > > > > > > > Feel as understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Every four hours, (starting when we get up and have our morning coffee) but not at night, three days on and four days off. I'm only as experienced as that?!. I have too much to be experienced about to be especially experienced at anything in particular? (that anyone else can sense? ... .) though some seem to suggest I'm an expert at that, figuring as much out? ... . Mike On Understanding?!. whatever It is that I'm Feeling?!. at least trying to understand, if not of All (so meaningful?) in that respect.. . On how you can be that sort of expert?!. It's pretty simple if not so, different? easy? (Challenging.. . For all that is so meaningful, Thereof, of Feeling as Understanding. It's amazing what you can do with your *feeling/s* where you understand and train them so?!. It just might become a movement where I'm considered the expert in that respect? Here's more than hoping so, for the *movement,* just don't call me late, as a figure of speech? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how > > > > > > > > > > meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the > > > > > > > > > > better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this > > > > > > > > > > respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things > > > > > > > > > > if not in the world/matter of ethology? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glavic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so > > > > > > > > > > meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of > > > > > > > > > > human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as > > > > > > > > > > much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual > > > > > > > > > > justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I > > > > > > > > > > Feel as understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Deb, butting in here - I hope you don't mind. I would suggest no deviation from Andy's recommended dosing schedule. I have forgotten doses and have felt the effects of redistribution myself - this is not something I would do purposely or would subject my child to (more than one redistribution per round.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how > > > > > > > > > > meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the > > > > > > > > > > better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this > > > > > > > > > > respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things > > > > > > > > > > if not in the world/matter of ethology? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glavic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so > > > > > > > > > > meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of > > > > > > > > > > human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as > > > > > > > > > > much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual > > > > > > > > > > justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I > > > > > > > > > > Feel as understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Butting in of an open forum? don't be silly?!. I do ballparks, start with ballparks (It puts me in the 1%? if not the 1% of the 1%) and where that works, move to plates, but I would suggest doing things your own way, to what makes sense to you for you, if that doesn't? (But I Feel It Does?!.) Rarely do I start what I find so meaningful by starting things as specifically as others tell me to do, (think obedience training?) of what is so proprietary to them (which tends to require professional if not political help?!. I Find) but then, that would be just me on as much.. Find what works for you, I still recommend, of Communication (that the primary communication doesn't start from within, but I Feel It Does! of what makes sense to you, Hello? .. . Welcome all communication in that respect of what It Does for you?!. I Do. Me somewhat feeling what that is about (of the Individual?) somewhat better than others, that the Individual isn't somewhat anathema to politics, (and being ripped off?) but I understand It Is.. . Honing in to what works for me? I somewhat go by that.. . It also makes for the more meaningful *test* I find, for as much, that that wouldn't be of and for Justice/Justness, and as much as we can do for each other (to be continued? .. . I have no regrets trying the A/C Andy Cutler chelation protocol and would try it again, and may continue with it further, considering the almost harmful results? (of $$$, etc? think time as well?) we got from other interventions, (including the DAN chelation protocol) but, where nothing ventured tends to be nothing gained, and we are prepared to take such chances for what we are getting from as much.. . (think a greater understanding if not justice from as much, that that ain't the same thing A bit of insight on thinking if not my thinking, as Feelin', my way, through.. . where you wanted to Know (of such primary facts? that any other should matter, to me?!. I figure that's good enough.. . I wish as good results for you Glavic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how > > > > > > > > > > > meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the > > > > > > > > > > > better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this > > > > > > > > > > > respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things > > > > > > > > > > > if not in the world/matter of ethology? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glavic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so > > > > > > > > > > > meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of > > > > > > > > > > > human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as > > > > > > > > > > > much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual > > > > > > > > > > > justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I > > > > > > > > > > > Feel as understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Will you start the night dose soon? I find that the night dose is the most important. We keep going around the clock. No matter the time of day, we chelate anyway. (a rhyme!) Deb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how > > > > > > > > > > > meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the > > > > > > > > > > > better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this > > > > > > > > > > > respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things > > > > > > > > > > > if not in the world/matter of ethology? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glavic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so > > > > > > > > > > > meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of > > > > > > > > > > > human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as > > > > > > > > > > > much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual > > > > > > > > > > > justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I > > > > > > > > > > > Feel as understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 It sounds like redistribution could happen at night. Maybe that's why the night dose is so important. Deb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how > > > > > > > > > > > meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the > > > > > > > > > > > better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this > > > > > > > > > > > respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things > > > > > > > > > > > if not in the world/matter of ethology? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glavic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so > > > > > > > > > > > meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of > > > > > > > > > > > human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as > > > > > > > > > > > much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual > > > > > > > > > > > justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I > > > > > > > > > > > Feel as understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Did Dana do it through the night? I tend to mistrust anything that doesn't work if not perfectly done, or that is proprietary (That I could be so perfect? .. . We're not noticing any loss or progress, (if you noticed that bit?) however you can explain that? .. . It doesn't feel like if we compromised our sleep, etc., that would work? I am a man of feeling/s for whatever that's worth, that I have any use for professionals or politicians otherwise? but I assure you I don't? .. . Mike Glavic On the primary facts, that any other should matter.. . Relates to understanding, more (of Communication?) being my purpose, that I wouldn't? understanding more? .. . I don't find it especially alluring getting more perfect to something else.. . I would have felt a pull in that direction having come so far, trying it at night, be so sure, of how such objectivity works? .. . What I'm doing must be working for what I need because I'm less silent and censoring than I used to be? .. . How about that, of being so Communicative? .. .. for what actually works? I believe that starts from within, that I'd be learning anything if I still had to do everything, if you get my drift. I go with what works, for as much I have more meaningful things to try in that respect?!. I ain't sold on what you're recommending but thanks for *your* insight.. . It's not like chelation works for everyone, especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? .. .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how > > > > > > > > > > > > meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the > > > > > > > > > > > > better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this > > > > > > > > > > > > respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things > > > > > > > > > > > > if not in the world/matter of ethology? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glavic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so > > > > > > > > > > > > meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of > > > > > > > > > > > > human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as > > > > > > > > > > > > much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual > > > > > > > > > > > > justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I > > > > > > > > > > > > Feel as understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 There are posts on the Onibasu Wiki about skipping night doses. Bad idea. People usually make themselves sicker doing that. Chelation is compromise. Life is sacrifice..... But each person can do what they want. Likely they will end up on the wiki in 5 years talking about how messed up their kid got because they didn't do night doses. Recovering my son is worth the compromise of sleep. Enough ramblings and musings...back to chelation Jan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? ... . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the > > > > > > > > > > > > > better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this > > > > > > > > > > > > > respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things > > > > > > > > > > > > > if not in the world/matter of ethology? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glavic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of > > > > > > > > > > > > > human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as > > > > > > > > > > > > > much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual > > > > > > > > > > > > > justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > Feel as understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Say what? Say what you will, Feel? .. . We will disagree.. . (I Feel) Who doesn't? that doesn't do things more perfectly, as to what we feel? that that's not the real issue (No lying please? .. . I'd rather have lying than censorship, that I can't deal with lying, [Yes, I Feel I can, as I do almost every minute of my social day] of my being so reasonable as I am? that I Feel I Am, but censorship is entirely a different and far more abusive thing, I Feel (Think abusive if not violent actions? think the world as it is? too much is, of the/our problem/s?) as far as I'm concerned. That, I figure we have to deal with, for as much, if not before anything else.. . [Not a language class so much, so get cracking? with respect to trying to understand more for your self of as much?!. You might have it backwards? I could be of Biblical proportions in that respect (why not?) or maybe not, of the the real choice/s (of a greater intelligence?) are yours in *that/this* respect, I Feel as Understand that any other treatment would be worth a damn? (Seriously Thanks for what you do though (in that/this respect, mostly, if not only) and I would expect the same, that you would have as much to teach me? that we could teach each other anything, that there isn't a lot more to teach and to teaching, and health I more than hope you realize I mean well by as much.. That's how reason works (going with as much? of our feeling/s, of understanding? that knowledge would be or is worth a crap otherwise) is my sense of It, that most of us can't figure that out for ourselves, (what makes sense? of what is primary? to communication, more than any language or power otherwise) and if we couldn't, we shouldn't and probably wouldn't be here in the first, I figure. I think you somewhat over-rate chelation Jan, (as good as it is, relative to so much of the other BS, relative to the Individual? of such performance? that questions [if] what you're doing is actually working?) that there aren't more meaningful things than chelation, that should be the criteria by what we measure everything by? I would be thinking by as much, that I need to take orders? of such a world that I already find to be too much of the problem, otherwise? Chelation is good, but I figure not that good (as Everything? so meaningful?) Everyting in moderation by as much (of Communication?) I say, of being as good as I Feel I am, if not that good.. . If you're demanding obedience for your voluntary contributions here I won't be part of that, so much? I don't, demand that from my treatment, (approach?) for what I've accomplished so far... (Yes) if not otherwise of you or whatever, of reason, that God isn't so reasonably, but I Feel It Is... of my doing the analysis so far.. . God is *perfectly clear and understandable to me,* (what I define God as? but what else, of Understanding?!.) that I don't understand what you're problem is? .. . But how could God not be so perfectly clear and understandable [of God?] is not so much a question for me, alone, so alone? .. . I'm glad I could help (if not you?) in that respect. I feel It does help, where you wanted to Know? and where you don't? I don't figure you could help anyone like me, Especially.. . But I figure you do want to understand more, of your results? (and let's not be so specific for as much? Please, or I figure *you'd* be on the wrong track) so there we go Best wishes, Thereof Mike Glavic You asked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A place for questions if nothing else, so meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve " justice " (if not individual justice?) and how > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaningful is justice (justness? that that wouldn't be inherent to doing the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > better ABA/behavioral conditioning? for as much as we can achieve in that/this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > respect?) to you in your understanding if not scheme (great scheme?) of things > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if not in the world/matter of ethology? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I define, serve and place it by asking such questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glavic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyst, of sorts, if not such sorts, that everything else would be so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaningful? .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm Feeling/understanding that ABA and the better behavioral conditioning (of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > human ethology? if not Objectivity itself) Connects in that/this respect, of as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > much, so meaningful, as so meaningful to me, re., without individual > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > justice/justness I wouldn't be me as meaningful as I am and could be, Thereof, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Feel as understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you define and serve justice and where do you place it here with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the human-ethology board is interested in as much of as much of posting as much after All.. . ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never give up on Understanding More for your self that anything else should matter and be so just?!. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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