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I'm not sure that parasite cleanses every 6 months is enough if he truly has

them. Itchy bottom is a symptom of parasites, as is constant hunger, tummy

aches (and gurgling), constipation.

We've had parasites even when the gastro tests turned up negative, as evidenced

by the parasite I scooped out and took to the doctor for confirmation after

receiving a negative test. Doc gave 2 rounds of Rx but then believed the issue

was well treated. Symptoms persisted.

Pin-X or Reese's seems to work for about 2 weeks, then I assume that more eggs

have hatched because the problem re-occurs. After the 2 rounds of Rx I treated

with Pin-X every 2 weeks for 3 rounds in a row and then saw improvement. I was

fanatical about washing the sheets during that time as well, as well as frequent

hand washing in very warm water, nails clipped short, etc. I think our issue is

resolved but it did take time. If I see itchy bottom symptoms again this is the

first thing I will think of.

Deb

>

> We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have a

long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

>

> In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

>

> Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that had

everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues. We

still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

>

> He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger? growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea, he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder

and aloe vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of

his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

sure this can't be helping matters.

>

> At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial, so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting

them on his feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back

to 10) and today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been

mostly gone since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if

anything else was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2,

artichoke extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something

or that he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that

out. He has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic

stuff, and nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN!

if we need to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn,

stool test, OAT, metabolic panel....

>

> Any ideas?

>

>

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Noise sensitivity and constipation can both be signs of magnesium deficiency.

Magnesium deficiency also tends to leave the body too acid. It is possible that

contributed to the sore bottom. In case you don't already know it: Magnesium

is best absorbed when taken with calcium and calcium is best absorbed when taken

with several other things (D, K..and I think one other thing). The ideal ratio

is supposedly 2 to 1 (though I have also heard this may vary from some), but I

can't remember which mineral is supposed to be twice as much. You can probably

google it up or check Dana's site for more info. She has fantastic amounts of

good info about specific details like that. (Though you may already know all

those details -- you seem to be giving magnesium, K and D already.)

It's also possible that even though the acute infection is gone, the actual bug

is still lingering. A real safe/gentle means to treat for that is vitamin A

with vitamin E and fanatically wash everything down in the house. A stronger

version is A, E and OLE. There are a few other things you can try to treat for

virii/bacteria, but that is likely where I would start as a good broad spectrum

approach. And I would treat all of the family members if possible. We have

found that in order to really kill off a bug that has gotten into the household,

everyone has to be treated, not just the person who is obviously symptomatic.

The crying you are doing could be related to a vitamin deficiency. I want to

say biotin or some other b-vitamin is known to be related to crying jags. It

could also be your body's way of trying to flush out your eyes and sinuses. I

have a life-long history of sinus problems. I loved watching tear-jerk movies

and crying my eyes out as a kid. Now that I am healthier, I believe that a big

part of why I loved that was because it made me feel physically better by

treating my undiagnosed, chronic sinus issues. A good quality sea salt is good

support for mucus membranes (including the sinuses and also the gut -- you did

just have a stomach bug) and might help with some of those issues. A high brine

sea salt will also help treat for mineral deficiencies. I find I absorb it best

when taken with carbs and a healthy fat, so I routinely cook a good quality carb

(like potatoes or organic noodles) with sea salt and butter.

Good luck with this.

Michele

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http://www.kidslikemine.com

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>

> We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have a

long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

>

> In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

>

> Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that had

everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues. We

still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

>

> He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger? growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea, he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder

and aloe vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of

his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

sure this can't be helping matters.

>

> At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial, so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting

them on his feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back

to 10) and today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been

mostly gone since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if

anything else was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2,

artichoke extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something

or that he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that

out. He has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic

stuff, and nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN!

if we need to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn,

stool test, OAT, metabolic panel....

>

> Any ideas?

>

>

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Yes , we use Custom Probiotics. The vitamin D3 is Pure Encapsulations

liquid drops. We just started round 19 (A/C chelation) and he is PERFECT, doing

SO well!! There is no irritation at all, he is happy and patient (as much as

you can expect from a 2 year old), I see him starting to act like he is going to

get upset, then he calms himself. I noticed this started to get better the day

before we started this round, so maybe it's just coincidental timing?

>

> Are you sure his probiotics are dairy and soy-free? Which form of vit D are

you using?

> S S

>

> Seriously losing it, need help with 2 year old

> Posted by: " G " luckylot@... jessicagalligani

> Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:37 am (PST)

>

>

>

> We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have a

long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

>

> In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

>

> Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that had

everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues. We

still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY. He

is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even smile

anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

>

> He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger? growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea, he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder

and aloe vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is fine,

but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of his

BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm sure

this can't be helping matters.

>

> At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial, so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting

them on his feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back

to 10) and today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been

mostly gone since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if

anything else was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2,

artichoke extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something

or that he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that

out. He has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic

stuff, and nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN!

if we need to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn, stool

test, OAT, metabolic panel....

>

> Any ideas?

>

>

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Twice as much magnesium.

> >

> > We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have a

long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

> >

> > In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

> >

> > Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that

had everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues.

We still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

> >

> > He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger? growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea, he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder

and aloe vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of

his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

sure this can't be helping matters.

> >

> > At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial, so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting

them on his feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back

to 10) and today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been

mostly gone since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if

anything else was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2,

artichoke extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something

or that he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that

out. He has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic

stuff, and nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN!

if we need to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn,

stool test, OAT, metabolic panel....

> >

> > Any ideas?

> >

> >

> >

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I'm curious about how to make and use a high brine sea salt. I use himalayan

sea salt with my children every day, on their food. I tried adding a little to

their vitamins when they were sick too, lol. Just my attempt at giving them

more of it, lol.

I don't give him vit E, because of a sensitivity to soy so I use astaxanthin

which is 400 times more potent than vit E (in antioxidants). We use magnesium to

the point of loose BMs, then I back off. And yes, you are right, he also gets D

and K2 daily.

What is interesting about my crying (which never happens) is that I have

recently started taking all the same vitamins my kids take, because I am

preparing to have my amalgams removed and then I will be starting chelation

also, so I am following Andy Cutler's recommendations now.

> >

> > We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have a

long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

> >

> > In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

> >

> > Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that

had everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues.

We still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

> >

> > He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger? growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea, he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder

and aloe vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of

his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

sure this can't be helping matters.

> >

> > At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial, so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting

them on his feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back

to 10) and today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been

mostly gone since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if

anything else was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2,

artichoke extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something

or that he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that

out. He has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic

stuff, and nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN!

if we need to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn,

stool test, OAT, metabolic panel....

> >

> > Any ideas?

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Tressie,

I read in your post that your kid was yeast/gut/sulfur kid. Does that mean

Sulfur sensitivity? What were the Symptoms? Is low sulfur useful?

Thanks,

Hari

> > >

> > > We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes,

natural antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy

Cutler chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because

of his SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still

have a long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

> > >

> > > In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

> > >

> > > Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that

had everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues.

We still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

> > >

> > > He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger? growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea, he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder

and aloe vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of

his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

sure this can't be helping matters.

> > >

> > > At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial, so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting

them on his feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back

to 10) and today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been

mostly gone since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if

anything else was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2,

artichoke extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something

or that he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that

out. He has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic

stuff, and nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN!

if we need to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn,

stool test, OAT, metabolic panel....

> > >

> > > Any ideas?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Tressie,

My son, aged 7 was also not vaccinated and only received 1 round of

antibiotics though it was right away at birth.

For chelation are you using the AC protocol?

thanks,

Jeannine

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