Caprylic acid

[Guest guest]

I had posted asking about caprylic acid and what it was made from. I remembered

it comes from coconut oil. I react to eating coconut, anyone know if I could

use caprylic?

I was able to identify the coconut being a problem when it seemed I was reacting

to my allergy shots. The missing link was, after my shot each week I would go

to the health food store nearby and buy some date/coconut treats that I was

really enjoying. They're just date & coconut ground up and made into balls.

When coconut oil hand cream made little scratches on my hands swell up and turn

red, I figured it out.

C. in MI

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I was on Caprylic Acid for the first 4 months. I think it worked

really well!

Ghislaine

(visit my site at: http://pub64.ezboard.com/bcandidaconnection )

[Guest guest]

I took this and it worked really well for me:

http://www.healthierways.com/caprylic.htm

this is what it contains:

Caprylic Acid Formula Nutrition Facts

Biotin 1800 mcg 600%

Zinc (as zinc gluconate) 9 mg 60%

Chromium (as chromium aspartate) 150 mcg 125%

Caprylic acid 1000 mg *

Oregano leaf 300 mg *

Oregano leaf 300 mg *

Garlic extract 300 mg *

Pau D'Arco (bark) dried extract (4:1) 225 mg *

Olive leaf extract (18% oleoropin) 225 mg *

Grapefruit seed extract 150 mg *

*Daily Value Not Established. Other Ingredients: Kosher American

gelatin, magnesium stearate.

[Guest guest]

Pat,

Virgin (unheated) coconut oil is about 6% caprylic acid, and about 50% -

53% lauric acid. Both kill yeast, among other things. The lauric acid

works at far lower concentrations but it works slower.

You might find it much less expensive to use virgin coconut oil than

caprylic acid. You'd be using at least 4 tbsp daily. It won't raise

cholesterol and it will help increase metabolic rate, which translates to

weight loss in many people.

There's research on that on my web site. I don't sell coconut oil.

Duncan Crow

> Can I ask if anyone has used caprylic acid supplements, and if so, did

> they work for you?

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello; I read your post about caprylic acid. I assume that since it

> kills both bacteria and yeast, it isn't the best choice in fighting

> candida. Actually, I've been trying it for 3 days now, and I haven't

> felt well, after being improved for about 2 weeks. Can this be due

> to the caprylic acid?

When you use caprylic acid or coconut oil you're replacing good

bacteria though, and not the bad or the yeast. It's a good choice

for dome because it also gets into the bloodstream.

Not feeling well could be the Herxheimer effect. That is a

desireable albeit crummy feeling that shows the therapy is working.

Duncan

[Guest guest]

Jen: I know this goes against anything you've heard about " tropical oils " -

but coconut oil is probably THE best oil you can use - and it is antifungal.

Try this web site to find out about oils - www.westonaprice.org.

Caprylic acid is used by a lot of people as an antifungal - I tried it once

but found it too harsh, however, I'm sure others will weigh in.

To your good health - p

Caprylic Acid

> Has anyone had any luck with acprylic acid or coconut oil?

> Are coconuts good to eat while on the candida diet, or is this just

> a gimmic to get our money?

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've tried both. A little bit of improvement and nothing else.

Simona

Caprylic Acid

Has anyone had any luck with acprylic acid or coconut oil?

Are coconuts good to eat while on the candida diet, or is this just

a gimmic to get our money?

[Guest guest]

Dear Bee and Vas,

I recently read an article on the Naturally Empowered wbesite (http://

www.naturallyempowered.com/cgi-bin/NMPstore.cgi)

It compared Caprylic acid to Nystatin (and other leading Candida treatments), in

terms of

its long term beneficial effectiveness, and negative side effects. According to

this source,

Caprylic acid was more effective, with fewer side effects.

I am wondering what Caprylic acid associated negatives are you referring to?

> Dear Vas,

> Caprylic acid is made from coconuts and coconut oil is better. However

> caprylic acid is found in most health stores. Also I believe raw

> crushed garlic and oil of oregano are very good. Caprylic acid causes

> problems in some people.

> Bee

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

IMO coconut oil is much more effective than caprylic acid, which is

derived from coconuts and is processed into tablets. The oil is more

pure and does not require fillers or binders, etc. I have seen too

many people that have not done well on caprylic acid.

I recommend nystatin because I took it for 2-1/2 years, with good

results, when I overcame candida I'd had for over 25 years. It does

not get absorbed past the gut, and it kills candida on contact, and the

powdered form is very versatile for use in enemas, mouth washes, eye

washes, snizzles, douches, etc. I wouldn't say it is better than raw

crushed garlic, oil of oregano or coconut oil however.

Bee

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group,

did any had experience with caprylic acid, either good

or bad and how did they feel. i am planning to go on

it

thanks

vas

--- weathergirl32002 <weathergirl32002@...>

wrote:

---------------------------------

Thanks for all the support, Jeanne. It is very much

appreciated. You

made me feel a lot better. I have totally been

successful with the

bigger things you mentioned. I have not had a soda in

over a week, no

sugary cereal (which I used to have daily), and no

fruit, and very few

processed things. The thing I am having the hardest

time with is

giving up grains, but I will keep plugging. Thanks

again for your

encouragement. Oh, and I'm doing great with the no

dairy. That, for

some reason, has been significantly easier for me than

the no-sugar

thing. I guess it's because my " dairy " tooth isn't

calling me, but my

sweet tooth is

I also loved the coconut and magnesium article you

sent. Can't wait

to read more. Bought the coconut oil and have been

using it.

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[Guest guest]

I have taken it many years ago in the form of caprol, the liquid. It was a kit

that included bentonite, and psylium husks/seeds. It was very effective. But I

don't want to suggest that it would be a preferred method of treatment now, in

light of Bee's research.

Caprol isn't suggested to be used without a fiber, because i understand it has

the properties to go to the liver, rather than the intestines, where it is

needed. The fiber helps to get the caprol to the intestines, but it can be a

harsh treatment. So be weary and perhaps do some more research before you do it.

I do think that Bee's suggestions for anti-fungals are not only safe, but very

effective too!

God Bless,

Joe

Re: [ ] Re: caprylic acid

group,

did any had experience with caprylic acid, either good

or bad and how did they feel. i am planning to go on

it

thanks

vas

--- weathergirl32002 <weathergirl32002@...>

wrote:

---------------------------------

Thanks for all the support, Jeanne. It is very much

appreciated. You

made me feel a lot better. I have totally been

successful with the

bigger things you mentioned. I have not had a soda in

over a week, no

sugary cereal (which I used to have daily), and no

fruit, and very few

processed things. The thing I am having the hardest

time with is

giving up grains, but I will keep plugging. Thanks

again for your

encouragement. Oh, and I'm doing great with the no

dairy. That, for

some reason, has been significantly easier for me than

the no-sugar

thing. I guess it's because my " dairy " tooth isn't

calling me, but my

sweet tooth is

I also loved the coconut and magnesium article you

sent. Can't wait

to read more. Bought the coconut oil and have been

using it.

---------------------------------

[Guest guest]

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Srinivas Archinapalli wrote:

> group,

> did any had experience with caprylic acid, either good

> or bad and how did they feel. i am planning to go on

> it

> thanks

> vas

Once upon a time I took it for a while. It was just sort of neutral for

me - it didn't do much, either good or bad.

I've had the best luck with oil of oregano and garlic. I also used GSE

for a while with some results from it. I also used a product called

Candex, which operates on a whole different principle than the other

anifungals. I had good results with it, too.

Candex is made up of mostly cellulase and hemicellulase in large

quantities. These two enzymes dissolve cellulose, which is what plant

cells are made of. Candida cell walls are made of cellulose. So are

vegetable and fruit cells. Bacteria and animal (meat and human body)

cell walls have no cellulose in them, so it doesn't do anything to them.

So the recommendation with the Candex is that you take it at least an

hour before breakfast and at least two hours after dinner, to make sure

you're dissolving the candida instead of the celery and onions you had

for dinner. It seemed to work for me when I followed those instructions.

But it's more expensive than some of the other antifungals.

Zack

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In a message dated 14/04/2006 10:14:55 GMT Daylight Time, n.trotman@... writes:

Has anyone ever used this remedy? If yes - where do I get it from, what form does it come in and what quantities do I give?

>>>Yes I have heard of it, uses it for Jack in form of Kaprycidin A so thats the brand I keep at Mandi Mart. Cally just has success with her daughter with it but it was a rough ride through. I would start very slowly and work up. or Cally may post after weekend with clues on dosing, not one I have used yet

HTH

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

Hi,

My dd has been on caprylic for a week now. Her CDSA said the yeast

she had was sensitive to it, so I tried it and this was the first

time to try it.

I used Mycoprol from Emerson Ecologics. It's timed released, so

doesn't get immediately dumped into liver and bypass the gut. It

worked--lots of die off--rotten egg breath and flatus, wild and

whacky (ie BAD!) behaviors, increase in asthma that we hadn't seen

in a year (altho that could be from high pollen count as well.) I've

noticed my dd will have two poos in short succession each evening,

rather than one " blast and run. " We are using 1 cap with each meal,

then replenish probios at bedtime. I plan to finish the bottle of

100 caps before stopping.

Good luck,

Cally

>

>

> In a message dated 14/04/2006 10:14:55 GMT Daylight Time,

> n.trotman@... writes:

>

> Has anyone ever used this remedy? If yes - where do I get it

from, what form

> does it come in and what quantities do I give?

>

>

>

> >>>Yes I have heard of it, uses it for Jack in form of

Kaprycidin A so

> thats the brand I keep at Mandi Mart. Cally just has success with

her

> daughter with it but it was a rough ride through. I would start

very slowly and

> work up. or Cally may post after weekend with clues on

dosing, not one I

> have used yet

>

> HTH

> Mandi x

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Nicola,

We have been using Solgar's Caprylic acid

http://www.solgar.co.uk/modules/shop/view.asp?catid=18 & Prodcode=E550

for several weeks for C. Freundi and Klebsiella. It has very

successfully dealt with the Klebsiella (all gone is his recent test

and we expected it to be difficult to move) though we may have to try

uva ursi for the remaining C. Freundi.

The good thing about Solgar's Caprylic acid is that it is a caprylate

form which (I read) is more effective throught the intestine (not

getting absorbed too quickly) AND what made it great for us is that

it's a tablet we could crush and mix into our little boy's food with

his other vits. Eddie is only 2.5 yrs old and is not taking any

capsules or tables yet.

Hope this helps and best wishes

Sandy and Tim (mum and dad to Eddie, 2.5 yrs early, onset autism)

>

> Hi

>

> We have had the results of Luke's stool test which shows the

following:

>

> Bacillus sp - 4+

> NLF E. coli - 4+

>

> It is also tells us that both of the above bugs are sensitive to

caprylic acid.

>

> Has anyone ever used this remedy? If yes - where do I get it from,

what form does it come in and what quantities do I give?

>

> Any advice would be great.

>

> Thanks

> Nicola

>

[Guest guest]

>From: " healthnutwannab " <healthnutwannab@...>

>Greetings Shirley. Why do you suggest that coconut oil would keep one

>awake? I usually sleep so much better after a nice hot bath, then

>slather my body in coconut oil while still dripping wet. In fact, this has

>been my remedy for insomnia

>lately. I am now going to bed much earlier at night (but only after

>that hot bath!) and getting up earlier in the morning.

>

>with Metta,

>~Lori~

Hi Lori,

It is something with the caprylic acid that creates so much energy that even

using it externally will gives you an energetic boost not conducive to

sleeping. I put coconut oil on my face one night after taking my make-up off

and was unable to fall asleep until 2am. I can also remember taking caprylic

acid pills for my candida a few years ago before I found Bee's group and I

didn't sleep for weeks while I was taking it. I am glad it does not affect

you this way because sleep is an important component in healing. I am happy

to hear you are able to get up earlier too, isn't this program miraculous?

Shirley

[Guest guest]

,

Coconut oil has 8% caprylic acid.

in the UK

On 5/12/07, jennifer.chicago <jennifer.chicago@...> wrote:

>

> I've not read any information about Caprylic Acid in this forum or in

> the files. I've been taking it since before I encountered this

> website. It is my understanding it is an anti-fungal. Can anyone tell

> me anything about it or why it is not mentioned on this diet? Thanks.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I've not read any information about Caprylic Acid in this forum or in

> the files. I've been taking it since before I encountered this

> website. It is my understanding it is an anti-fungal. Can anyone tell

> me anything about it or why it is not mentioned on this diet? Thanks.

Hi . That is because caprylic acid is derived from coconut oil

so I only recommend coconut oil, which is the real food, rather than a

a fractionated processed caprylic acid supplement.

Bee

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>

> If I can't handle the other effects of coconut oil i.e weight loss,

> can caprylic acid supplements be used? I have limited body fat and

I

> have been used butter.

==>Caprylic acid is derived from coconut oil, but it is processed.

>

> Is coconut oil necessary for the good fats or could I substitute it

> with another oil.

==>It is one of the best highly saturated fats which need to go into

the construction of cells.

>

> Will cooking with coconut oil promote weight loss too?

==>It is the same. To gain weight take extra virgin olive oil.

Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi

>

> Has anyone taken Caproyl? From what I've been reading it's a good

antifungal .... I currently take Candida Stop by new roots.

>

>

> This is what I read about caprylic acid from a Naturapth's

doctor's site >>>>> One of the difficulties with caprylic / octanoic

acid is that, being a medium chain fatty acid, it is very easily

digested and absorbed by the body. Thus, it often gets absorbed in

the stomach and small intestines before it reaches the large

intestines, where it it most needed – because that is where most of

the candida overgrowth is found.

==>Maddy, caprylic acid is derived from coconut oil, so we use

the " real thing " instead of anything processed.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Why do you not recommend this as an anitfungal?

>

Caprylic acid occurs naturally in Coconut Oil which is an integral

part of this program. There's no need to supplement it on it's own.

jackie

[Guest guest]

Is the dose in the coconut oil as strong as what you would get in the capsule of

caprylic acid?

> >

> > Why do you not recommend this as an anitfungal?

> >

>

>

> Caprylic acid occurs naturally in Coconut Oil which is an integral

> part of this program. There's no need to supplement it on it's own.

>

> jackie

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Is the dose in the coconut oil as strong as what you would get in the

capsule of caprylic acid?

++Hi there. What is your name please? Absolutely, coconut oil it is

better than caprylic acid which is a processed product derived from

coconut oil. Coconut oil is a whole food, whereas caprylic acid isn't.

Ensure you get unrefined undeoderized, unbleached cold or expeller

pressed virgin coconut oil in the amounts recommended in my main

candida article. start with small amounts at first, and slowly

increase it. It will create die-off reactions so you want to take it

easy.

Bee

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>Posted by: " j_gehman122 " j_gehman@... j_gehman122

>Is the dose in the coconut oil as strong as what you would get in the capsule

of >caprylic acid?

It depends on where you are in the program. Caprylic acid can be hard on your

system causing too much die-off. That equals gas pains and all that goes with

it. Besides, you'll be missing out on the nutritional benefits of Coconut Oil.

Nan

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Not sure if anyone has wrote this but not got time to read all the links but

Caprilic acid can have really harsh affects on very sensaive people and should

be stared realy low ithe 350mg dose there might even be a smaller dose 250 mg

and one a day if he is sensative, even half if he is really sensative. The other

thing is to deal with the die off really well and make sure his system is

supported to deal with the die off so any weaknesses should be pumped up with

either herbs , acupuncture, whatever you beleive in. Things to support die off

are vit c , Milk thistle, Dandelion coffee.

I would personally say that if he cant take small doses of it then maybe you

should look for some support from a professional as his system is sensative.

There are other antifungals also that he migh not react to .

Ive done up to the highest doses of caprilic acid which was 6 x 680 a day. Also

obviousely must be done with a strict diet, Good luck lyns