Re: carnatine levels and chelation question

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What is an immune modulator?

From: ronnimike <HISSPECIALTOUCH@...>

Subject: [ ] carnatine levels and chelation question

Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 2:01 PM

 

My kids are taking 1000 mgs of acetyl l carnatine and at least 500 to 1000 mgs l

carnatine fumerate. I was wondering how high people are going esp with the

fumerate. We have muscular issues. The kids weight from 140 to 200 lbs, so need

adult levels.

Also am in a quandry about chelation. Have done about 80 rounds. The kids are

really doing a lot better in school. We have finally got their yeast levels down

and the bacteria...but we are still having some issues with foods and some

behaviors.

We are doing what I call " accidental " viral protocol. We are using coconut milk

a lot in cooking. We are seeing more results.

Here is my question....where do I go from here? Do I keep on chelating, or do I

push the viruses? We have done the high C protocol, and did OLE at 3000 x3 a day

for almost a year...but these are really viral kids. They are immature but very

different from days gone by.

I know that there are still viruses....cuz if we go off the immune

modulators....oh man!!! Really sick kids...so am trying to figure what to do?

Any thoughts here????

TIA

Ronni

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My doc reccomends no higher than 1000 mg for acetyl-carnitine, and no more than

2000 miligrams of l-carnitine unless dealing with a specfic condition like

neuropathy or CFS.

Any reason that you cant do both anti-viral and chelate?

Ksrla

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> My kids are taking 1000 mgs of acetyl l carnatine and at least 500 to 1000 mgs

l carnatine fumerate. I was wondering how high people are going esp with the

fumerate. We have muscular issues. The kids weight from 140 to 200 lbs, so

need adult levels.

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> Also am in a quandry about chelation. Have done about 80 rounds. The kids

are really doing a lot better in school. We have finally got their yeast levels

down and the bacteria...but we are still having some issues with foods and some

behaviors.

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> We are doing what I call " accidental " viral protocol. We are using coconut

milk a lot in cooking. We are seeing more results.

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> Here is my question....where do I go from here? Do I keep on chelating, or do

I push the viruses? We have done the high C protocol, and did OLE at 3000 x3 a

day for almost a year...but these are really viral kids. They are immature but

very different from days gone by.

> I know that there are still viruses....cuz if we go off the immune

modulators....oh man!!! Really sick kids...so am trying to figure what to do?

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> Any thoughts here????

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> TIA

> Ronni

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Immune modulators help protect the body against disease on a cellular level by

stimulating white blood cells which improves their immune response. Beta Glucan

is an example of an immune modulator.

Karla

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ok. and how do you get those? thru a doctor? is there anything natural that

serves the same purpose?

From: wiersmak <wiersmak@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: carnatine levels and chelation question

Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 2:49 PM

 

Immune modulators help protect the body against disease on a cellular level by

stimulating white blood cells which improves their immune response. Beta Glucan

is an example of an immune modulator.

Karla

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From what I understand....an immune modulator, is a supp that controls the

immune system, it keeps it in balance...not allowing it to cause inflammation or

be depressed and allow diseases. It doesn't always work perfectly...but it

helps a lot at my house.

hth

Ronni

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l carnatine fumerate. I was wondering how high people are going esp with the

fumerate. We have muscular issues. The kids weight from 140 to 200 lbs, so need

adult levels.

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> Also am in a quandry about chelation. Have done about 80 rounds. The kids are

really doing a lot better in school. We have finally got their yeast levels down

and the bacteria...but we are still having some issues with foods and some

behaviors.

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> We are doing what I call " accidental " viral protocol. We are using coconut

milk a lot in cooking. We are seeing more results.

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> Here is my question....where do I go from here? Do I keep on chelating, or do

I push the viruses? We have done the high C protocol, and did OLE at 3000 x3 a

day for almost a year...but these are really viral kids. They are immature but

very different from days gone by.

> I know that there are still viruses....cuz if we go off the immune

modulators....oh man!!! Really sick kids...so am trying to figure what to do?

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We use Beta 1-3 glucan from BetaForce.com It is the strongest and most

effective that I could find. Have compared a bunch and there is a comparison

chart on the site to look at.

hth

Ronni

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We are actually dealing with both. Hubby has neuropathy from diabetes and I

have CFS. But we are also dealing with weakening muscles...esp hubby with some

cardiac damage from avandi. The kids also have low muscle tone... He has a

bulge in his heart near the aortic valve...and trying to get around surgery. He

doesn't do well with it at all.

Chelating and antiviral cause an overwhelming amount of yeast. We were doing

large doses of pros, nystatin, biotin and some other things...plus the beta

glucan. I am hoping to get some liverlife and see if that clears the

issues...but right now it is a one or the other issue.

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> > My kids are taking 1000 mgs of acetyl l carnatine and at least 500 to 1000

mgs l carnatine fumerate. I was wondering how high people are going esp with

the fumerate. We have muscular issues. The kids weight from 140 to 200 lbs, so

need adult levels.

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> > Also am in a quandry about chelation. Have done about 80 rounds. The kids

are really doing a lot better in school. We have finally got their yeast levels

down and the bacteria...but we are still having some issues with foods and some

behaviors.

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> > We are doing what I call " accidental " viral protocol. We are using coconut

milk a lot in cooking. We are seeing more results.

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> > Here is my question....where do I go from here? Do I keep on chelating, or

do I push the viruses? We have done the high C protocol, and did OLE at 3000 x3

a day for almost a year...but these are really viral kids. They are immature

but very different from days gone by.

> > I know that there are still viruses....cuz if we go off the immune

modulators....oh man!!! Really sick kids...so am trying to figure what to do?

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> > Any thoughts here????

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You can get Beta Glucan OTC. I believe Kirkman sells it.

Karla

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> My kids are taking 1000 mgs of acetyl l carnatine and at least 500 to 1000 mgs

l carnatine fumerate. I was wondering how high people are going esp with the

fumerate. We have muscular issues. The kids weight from 140 to 200 lbs, so

need adult levels.

There was a period of time when my son needed 3000mg 3x per day. He did best

with l-carnitine, not acetyl.

> Also am in a quandry about chelation. Have done about 80 rounds. The kids

are really doing a lot better in school. We have finally got their yeast levels

down and the bacteria...but we are still having some issues with foods and some

behaviors.

Any specific foods? There were several foods that required certain supplements

before my son could eat them.

> We are doing what I call " accidental " viral protocol. We are using coconut

milk a lot in cooking. We are seeing more results.

> Here is my question....where do I go from here? Do I keep on chelating, or do

I push the viruses? We have done the high C protocol, and did OLE at 3000 x3 a

day for almost a year...but these are really viral kids.

I used high doses of vitamin A, vitamin C, vitamin D, and lysine.

Dana