Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 > After that, my dentist realized I was taking the other supplements and decided I didn't > need to take the charcoal. For my next two sessions (five fillings) I skipped the charcoal > and did much better: no headaches. I recently tried 2 different brands of activated charcoal, and felt terrible after trying them both. I don't know why, but its pretty typical that I would have a bad reaction to something... :-) Oh, I've also done some more experimentation with the detox foot fads (Shu Li). The first night went okay with 1 pad, but on nights 2 and 3, I got such nasty chest discomfort that I think I'm going to have to stop (or at least cut down the frequency to once a week/2-weeks/month...) At least I have nothing bad to report about the raw milk -- except that its not as tasty on subsequent days as it is while the frozen container is thawing... :-) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 >> My dentist gave me charcoal during my first mercury amalgam removals (2 fillings). He didn't realize I was also taking cilantro, green algae, and a supplement called Mercury Detox, at my naturopath's recommendation. I'm speculating that the charcoal may have cancelled out the supplements; in any case I had a strong headache that night and for the next day. >> After that, my dentist realized I was taking the other supplements and decided I didn't need to take the charcoal. For my next two sessions (five fillings) I skipped the charcoal and did much better: no headaches. ~Cara << Our experience was the opposite. Sue wasn't told to take much in the way of supplements when her amalgams were removed, and suffered a bad reaction. Since then she has taken activated charcoal for any operation that could release mercury and it seems to have worked. A physical explanation we have heard is that the liver eliminates nasties by two routes; bile and urine. Bile goes into the bile duct and then into the gut. However, it's suggested that if you have bad candida or leaky gut, the mercury can re-absorb into the body. Activated charcoal should stop or reduce this by mopping up the mercury and holding it until it is eliminated. It seems very likely though that activated charcoal would absorb supplements as well; it's an indiscriminate absorbent relying on physical absorption through its very open, porous structure, rather than any chemical reactions. My guess would be that activated charcoal is worth taking if you're about to do a process which could release a lot of mercury or heavy metals from your body, and you have a known candida or leaky gut problem, but you'd have to get the timing right if the detox process itself relied on gut absorption.. If taken on its own when not detoxing, it might mop up lots of food nutrients and leave you feeling weaker, as Shivani points out! If only we could see inside our bodies . detox seems a lot more complicated than the books and articles often make out. (As part of my work, I troubleshoot chemical and process plants, and I reckon our bodies are much more complex and difficult to understand than anything I normally deal with!) Ian _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Cara Sent: 19 December 2005 15:29 Subject: Re: activated charcoal Hi Shivani, > > > Someone suggested activated charcoal for clearing mercury. Something > to remember when using actiated charcoal is that it has such tremendous > absorption power that it also sucks up a lot of your nutrients if it is in your > digestive system at the same time as your food. > Regards, > Shivani > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 In a message dated 21/04/2006 12:59:34 GMT Daylight Time, Elaine.Rankin@... writes: has been SCD since Monday and today his abdomen is very distended, I assume full of gas. I was going to use activated charcoal which I had bought in anticipation. Does it interfere with any other supplements? >>>Yes it does - need to begiven at least an hour away from supps or it will take those out too - its loke a magnet Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 In a message dated 21/04/2006 14:12:42 GMT Daylight Time, Elaine.Rankin@... writes: Is it ok to open the capsule and add to a drink? >>>No problem except its black and doesn't look appetising LOL, it doesn;t tatse much just looks bad! Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 > , Do you only drink the AC only when you are going to get into > the sauna or do you drink it daily? I try not to do *anything* every day... That said, I probably drink one at least every other day - but I do drink them 3 times per day when doing a cleanse, such as the Master Cleanse, and before/after the sauna. Just drink the slurry in between the Lemonade. > In the past, I've used AC but ran into some problems with charlie > horses. They got really bad. Then read where AC not only will bind to > the toxins but also minerals as well. Was suggested not to take any > supplements or eat within 2 hours of taking the AC. Even so I couldn't > take it daily becuase it felt like it was stripping me of necessary > minerals. Yes, it will definitely bind with vitamins and minerals in your digestive tract, but I haven't read anything to lead me to believe that it will be a serious problem with respect to pulling minerals out of your body that are already there. I could be wrong though. Personally, I think my answer to this would be the same as when answering the same question about distilled water. Yes, it pulls them out, but they are easily replaced. So, just avoid drinking the slurry when eating, and be sure to get plenty of bio-available nutrients (including minerals) in your diet, and you'll be ok. I really like Dr. Schulze's mineral broth recipe > Now I'm wondering if maybe just using it on the days I do a sauna. > BTW, how often do you get in the sauna? Not as often as I'd like. We just moved, and I don't even have it set up yet, so haven't had one in over two months. We both work, so going through all of the boxes in the garage is taking forever - and the garage is going to be our 'fitness' room (including the sauna). We're going to take an entire weekend sometime in the next couple of weeks and just get it done, though - I'm missing my saunas! When it is set up, though, I do them anywhere from 2-5 times per week - probably averaging 3 times per week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 , Do you drink 2-5 tlbs. 3 times a day, or is the TOTAL amount spread out over the day equal to 2-5 tlbs.? gail -- In oxyplus , Marcus <tanstaafl@...> wrote: > >That said, I probably drink one at least every other day - but I do > drink them 3 times per day when doing a cleanse, such as the Master > Cleanse, and before/after the sauna. Just drink the slurry in between > the Lemonade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 > , Do you drink 2-5 tlbs. 3 times a day, or is the TOTAL amount > spread out over the day equal to 2-5 tlbs.? gail The 2-3 tablespoons is per slurry/glass, so yes to the first - 2-3 TB 3 times per day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Because the question often comes up on lists, do you have definitive information that activated charcoal binds with vitamins? I mean doesn't it depend on their ionic charge, thus their form? What data can you point out? Duncan > > Posted by: " Marcus " tanstaafl@... > bernardo_dela_paz Date: Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:19 am (PDT) > Yes, it will definitely bind with vitamins and minerals in your > digestive tract, but I haven't read anything to lead me to believe > that it will be a serious problem with respect to pulling minerals out > of your body that are already there. I could be wrong though. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 I read that its best to give this 90 mins after the nystatin, flagyl ,supplements etc so it doesn't carry them away as well. >>Think of it as a sponge - it will take food, supps, etc that is still in stomach - 90 mins before or after any supp - its tricky to dose but worth the hassle in my limited but recent experience Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Hi Helen my dr advised 1 hour before and 2 hours after supplements - to give the charcoal. I take that as meaning all supps. hth Peta PS the bad news is that means giving it at school probably. Charlie can swallow tablets and his TA is very good so she gave them to him mid morning. I explained the importance of timing and said that his behavior would be wild without it - did the trick! - -- In Autism Treatment , " tikka330726 " <olivers4@...> wrote: > > Hi again. > > I read that its best to give this 90 mins after the nystatin, > flagyl ,supplements etc so it doesn't carry them away as well. > > Being daft here. Please can anyone help. Normally give morning supps > with breakfast (having given probiotics first thing) then wait 1 hr > before giving gut bug killers. Would I then wait 90 mins after this > which would mean about 2 and a half hrs after nystatin? > > Sure I'm over complicating the whole thing but just want to do the > best for my little un who is suffering. > > Thanks for any help. > > Helen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Hi Helen my dr advised 1 hour before and 2 hours after supplements - to give the charcoal. I take that as meaning all supps. hth Peta PS the bad news is that means giving it at school probably. Charlie can swallow tablets and his TA is very good so she gave them to him mid morning. I explained the importance of timing and said that his behavior would be wild without it - did the trick! - -- In Autism Treatment , " tikka330726 " <olivers4@...> wrote: > > Hi again. > > I read that its best to give this 90 mins after the nystatin, > flagyl ,supplements etc so it doesn't carry them away as well. > > Being daft here. Please can anyone help. Normally give morning supps > with breakfast (having given probiotics first thing) then wait 1 hr > before giving gut bug killers. Would I then wait 90 mins after this > which would mean about 2 and a half hrs after nystatin? > > Sure I'm over complicating the whole thing but just want to do the > best for my little un who is suffering. > > Thanks for any help. > > Helen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 We used Nystatin without horrible die off. In fact, without huge reactoin at all. I dont think it means not effective. We had improvemnets as well. Low and slow is the rule book - if your approach suits the biochemistry you may not get profound die off. Or yeast may not be an issue (which would be incredible good fortune but by no means unknown. Party round yours then?) Steph x > > Thanks Mandi and Peta for your tips on activated charcoal and when to > use it. Started Nystatin on Fri and funny thing is , apart from being > maybe a little more hyper and stimmy he's actually ok and hasn't had > what i would call die-off....yet. Not up to full dose yet though so > things may change. Not sure if this meand Nystatin not effective or > whether yeast isn't an issue after all, when I thought it was!! > > Hey ho..on we go. > > Helen x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 > > We used Nystatin without horrible die off. In fact, without huge > reactoin at all. I dont think it means not effective. Party round yours then?) Steph x Thanks Steph.. Still no die off reaction but yes, little subtle differences, echoed back a v good 'bathroom' last night which was an absolute first. Actually thats not subtle at all is it?!! Yep, any excuse for a party round here..... Do us all a world of good. Rally looking forward to Bournemouth and letting the old hair down. Helen x > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 > > We used Nystatin without horrible die off. In fact, without huge > reactoin at all. I dont think it means not effective. Party round yours then?) Steph x Thanks Steph.. Still no die off reaction but yes, little subtle differences, echoed back a v good 'bathroom' last night which was an absolute first. Actually thats not subtle at all is it?!! Yep, any excuse for a party round here..... Do us all a world of good. Rally looking forward to Bournemouth and letting the old hair down. Helen x > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Fascinating, I don`t think Charcoal have been rated as an Autism treatment modality.. perhaps it ought to. Charcoal have no known serious side effects - but it steals what ever it finds, so used for long time, perhaps some more minerals and vitamins should be given ?? When you see such a quick and obvious effect, could you in more detail tell how much you give, and at what time, and how fast you see what effects. ? (Like a Nystatin treatment protocol with charcoal) Geir Flatabø On 12/17/06, tikka330726 <olivers4@...> wrote: > Hi everyone > > Gave activated charcoal for first time yesterday as I could get dosing > right and it really calmed down and helped with the rage, > headhitting etc we are getting from nyststin. Hurray. This am he woke > up SATURATED (he wears pullups) . It was like he'd had a bath on his > bed. Is this as a result of charcoal pulling things out? He's also > hyper than ever . I am guessing effects of charcoal now worn off. How > often can you give this please? If anyone can help that would be > brill. > > Thanks Helen x > > > > DISCLAIMER > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 > > Hi everyone > > > > Gave activated charcoal for first time yesterday as I could get dosing > > right and it really calmed down and helped with the rage, > > headhitting etc we are getting from nyststin. Hurray. This am he woke > > up SATURATED (he wears pullups) . It was like he'd had a bath on his > > bed. Is this as a result of charcoal pulling things out? He's also > > hyper than ever . I am guessing effects of charcoal now worn off. How > > often can you give this please? If anyone can help that would be > > brill. > > > > Thanks Helen x > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER > > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 And how much is one cap in " mg " ? Geir Flatabø On 12/17/06, tikka330726 <olivers4@...> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone > > > > > > Gave activated charcoal for first time yesterday as I could get > dosing > > > right and it really calmed down and helped with the rage, > > > headhitting etc we are getting from nyststin. Hurray. This am > he woke > > > up SATURATED (he wears pullups) . It was like he'd had a bath on > his > > > bed. Is this as a result of charcoal pulling things out? He's > also > > > hyper than ever . I am guessing effects of charcoal now worn > off. How > > > often can you give this please? If anyone can help that would be > > > brill. > > > > > > Thanks Helen x > > > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER > > > No information contained in this post is to be construed as > medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a > suitably qualified practitioner. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 > > > > Hi everyone > > > > > > > > Gave activated charcoal for first time yesterday as I could get > > dosing > > > > right and it really calmed down and helped with the rage, > > > > headhitting etc we are getting from nyststin. Hurray. This am > > he woke > > > > up SATURATED (he wears pullups) . It was like he'd had a bath on > > his > > > > bed. Is this as a result of charcoal pulling things out? He's > > also > > > > hyper than ever . I am guessing effects of charcoal now worn > > off. How > > > > often can you give this please? If anyone can help that would be > > > > brill. > > > > > > > > Thanks Helen x > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER > > > > No information contained in this post is to be construed as > > medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a > > suitably qualified practitioner. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Hi , I'm not as knowledgeable as others but here's my two cents worth... >>If yeast die off is not cleared from the bowels can this reinfect you? Yes! You'd need to up the probiotics so that there is some good bacteria to colonise the gut where the bad boys died off. >>I have never used activated charcoal but would like to give it a try for>>the die-off but I'm not sure about whether one has to be opening bowels>>frequently for this to work or be used. Norman has a very sluggish>>bowel and only has a BM every two to three days , would this be a>>problem? Have you tried Oxypowder? It's important to keep the poo moving through when doing a yeast protocol as otherwise you don't really stand a chance of killing it off. The bad guys die and have to be flushed out, otherwise their decaying bodies release neurotoxins into the blood stream which are not pleasant. >>Also what are the obvious signs of yeast die-off besides behavioural>>ones? Can one develop a rash or itchy skin with it, any others? has rashes now, burned skin from acid poos, sluggish bowels from die-off. I think there are quite a few symptoms of die-off but I think many have found the charcoal helpful. Best wishes to Norman and death to all bad bacteria!!! Darla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 is obviously not doing well with the nystating/flagyl as he's not eating anything at all and he's been up for about 4 to 5 hours in a row the past 3 or 4 nights. I've got the charcoal and I'll give it an hour after supps - does anyone know if it should be given an hour after flagyl? What about eating? I've given him his flagyl at 3:00 then wait 30 mins before giving him his afternoon bottle. Can I go ahead and give the charcoal at 4:00? How about during the night? Can I give it to him during the night as this is when he seems to be most distressed. >>Yes thats a good plan - you need to give the charcaol at least an hour away from anything you want to STAY inthis stomach be that food or supps - its like a big sponge - will saosk up anything in the gut - like nasty gas and bugs Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 >>Yes thats a good plan - you need to give the charcaol at least an hour away from anything you want to STAY inthis stomach be that food or supps - its like a big sponge - will saosk up anything in the gut - like nasty gas and bugs Mandi x Thanks, Mandi, I gave it to him and it definitely helped as he fell asleep tonight within about 10 minutes where it had been taking him over an hour because of his tummy. Will have some on the ready for tonight. Darla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Dear Darla, Here's hoping you get a good night's sleep yourself tonight.... Margaret > > > In a message dated 21/01/2007 18:59:11 GMT Standard Time, Mum231ASD@... > writes: > > >>Yes thats a good plan - you need to give the charcaol at least an hour > away from anything you want to STAY inthis stomach be that food or supps - its > like a big sponge - will saosk up anything in the gut - like nasty gas and bugs > > Mandi x > > > > Thanks, Mandi, I gave it to him and it definitely helped as he fell asleep > tonight within about 10 minutes where it had been taking him over an hour > because of his tummy. > > Will have some on the ready for tonight. > > Darla > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 I'd wait longer than 30 minutes after food or bottle to give the charcoal so that the food can get absorbed rather than be knocked out by the charcoal. Abigail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Does anyone know whether this should be taken with food or away from food? SARA >>Away or it will soak up the food, unless the food was a choclate bar he shouldn;t have had then it works brill - tested on Sam twice at Xmas Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Does anyone know whether this should be taken with food or away from food? SARA >>Away or it will soak up the food, unless the food was a choclate bar he shouldn;t have had then it works brill - tested on Sam twice at Xmas Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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