Re: bacteria vs virus question

[Guest guest]

> How can I tell the difference between bacteria and virus? Are the symptoms

different?

Most bacteria symptoms at my house were related to anger, aggression, and

diarrhea. Virus symptoms were varied and not the same as bacteria. Here is a

page of virus info

http://www.danasview.net/virfile.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dana thank you, that's good information on virus'. I think bacteria might be

our problem and I've started him on OLE. It does cause die off and he rages if

I don't get in there with the Alka Seltzer Gold pretty quick after each dose.

I think antibiotics are anti-bacterial and I'm thinking about asking the Dr for

a round of those. I'm not sure why everyone discourages antibiotics if in fact

they kill bacteria and we have a bacteria problem.

Deb

> > How can I tell the difference between bacteria and virus? Are the symptoms

different?

>

>

> Most bacteria symptoms at my house were related to anger, aggression, and

diarrhea. Virus symptoms were varied and not the same as bacteria. Here is a

page of virus info

>

> http://www.danasview.net/virfile.htm

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Have you also tried adding culturelle at bedtime to help with the bacteria? We

use 3 to 4 while on round and I give off-round as-needed.

I think what option you try, Rx or non-Rx, depends on the child, severity level

and the side-effects.

S

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On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:48 AM, " mrboysmom " <misterboysmom@...> wrote:

> Dana thank you, that's good information on virus'. I think bacteria might be

our problem and I've started him on OLE. It does cause die off and he rages if I

don't get in there with the Alka Seltzer Gold pretty quick after each dose.

>

> I think antibiotics are anti-bacterial and I'm thinking about asking the Dr

for a round of those. I'm not sure why everyone discourages antibiotics if in

fact they kill bacteria and we have a bacteria problem.

> Deb

>

>

> > > How can I tell the difference between bacteria and virus? Are the symptoms

different?

> >

> >

> > Most bacteria symptoms at my house were related to anger, aggression, and

diarrhea. Virus symptoms were varied and not the same as bacteria. Here is a

page of virus info

> >

> > http://www.danasview.net/virfile.htm

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hydrogen peroxide(food grade) from Health Food Store(35%) dilute to3%

works for all pathogens

google The One Minute Miricle Hydrogen Peroxide Dr. Rowan Dr.

etc. Amazon Books

Works for a lot of other things also

Bernie

[Guest guest]

Bernie,

Do you use this with a child? I tried it on me a few times, but only got as far

as adding a few drops into a large jar of water and drinking a little daily. I

only gave that to my kids on a few occasions, never increased or used it

regularly. I was worried about giving it to them, because I can't seem to find

enough consistent information on it. We have also tried MMS in the past, but

it's so super strong that I just can't keep it going.

>

> Hydrogen peroxide(food grade) from Health Food Store(35%) dilute to3%

> works for all pathogens

> google The One Minute Miricle Hydrogen Peroxide Dr. Rowan Dr.

etc. Amazon Books

> Works for a lot of other things also

> Bernie

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Dana thank you, that's good information on virus'. I think bacteria might be

our problem and I've started him on OLE. It does cause die off and he rages if

I don't get in there with the Alka Seltzer Gold pretty quick after each dose.

OLE eliminated bacteria here, and also helped control viruses [which caused

yeast].

> I think antibiotics are anti-bacterial and I'm thinking about asking the Dr

for a round of those. I'm not sure why everyone discourages antibiotics if in

fact they kill bacteria and we have a bacteria problem.

Most people have a yeast problem, and antibiotics will make that worse. But if

your problem is bacteria, antibiotics should help.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Because antibiotics not only kill the bad bacteria, they kill off the good

bacteria, as well --still leaving the body quite unbalanced.

The other problem with antibiotics is that bacteria - like all other living

things " will find a way " to go on surviving. So with the use of

antibiotics, bacteria mutate and change in order to go on surviving. It is

the over use of antibiotics that has given rise to super bugs.

That being said, I can well understand wanting to use them. I lost count of

how many times my son has had to be on antibiotics over the years due to

pneumonia, bronchitis, strep, cellulitis/staph infections. But over these

years it worried me that he would become resistant to their use.

On the good side, I credit the use of an IM, broad spectrum antibiotic with

convincing me that " autism " in my son was biomedical in nature. He was two

and had come down with his first bout of pneumonia. He was fine in the

afternoon, but by two AM we were at the hospital with a significant

pneumonia in his right lung.

He was given a broad spectrum antibiotic IM for two days and followed up

with oral Omnicef for ten. On the forth day of treatment, our son sat up

and said every word he had known before regression. He had not said a word

- any word in twelve months. Of course, I ran to the Internet and found

studies where they had used Vancomycin in ASD children, and it had produced

improvement. The study said, however, that when the antibiotic was stopped,

the children regressed to base line.

My son did not regress to base line and we built on the speech that

remained, but this incident was enough to convince me to do biomedical along

with therapeutic interventions.

So antibiotics can have a role, I think, but if I had known about natural

antivirals and antibacterials way back then, I would have tried them first,

and use synthetic when I absolutely had to.

If good bacteria get too low, this is a very bad thing, too, and you

wouldn't like the treatment for that if it came down to it -- not pleasant.

We are early in the AC Protocol now, but I have to say that since we

started, we have not needed synthetics. For the first time in years, my son

has not even needed to use his rescue inhaler at all! Only time will tell.

[Guest guest]

We were giving Culturelle but then it started making him rage. I don't know

why.

Deb

> > > > How can I tell the difference between bacteria and virus? Are the

symptoms different?

> > >

> > >

> > > Most bacteria symptoms at my house were related to anger, aggression, and

diarrhea. Virus symptoms were varied and not the same as bacteria. Here is a

page of virus info

> > >

> > > http://www.danasview.net/virfile.htm

> > >

> > > Dana

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, the Dr would not Rx antibiotics because his biopsies were negative for

bacteria. So since she didn't find it in his gut she things he doesn't have it.

He certainly has something! Call it autism, but it's got to have a biological

nature.

Dana, how much OLE did you use? I'm using 500mg 4/day but it does cause

die-off. Is that enough? Did you use it for days or weeks or months?

Deb

> > Dana thank you, that's good information on virus'. I think bacteria might

be our problem and I've started him on OLE. It does cause die off and he rages

if I don't get in there with the Alka Seltzer Gold pretty quick after each dose.

>

>

> OLE eliminated bacteria here, and also helped control viruses [which caused

yeast].

>

>

> > I think antibiotics are anti-bacterial and I'm thinking about asking the Dr

for a round of those. I'm not sure why everyone discourages antibiotics if in

fact they kill bacteria and we have a bacteria problem.

>

>

> Most people have a yeast problem, and antibiotics will make that worse. But

if your problem is bacteria, antibiotics should help.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Were you giving it at bedtime? Do you think there is an issue with constipation?

What are you using for yeast?

S

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 1, 2011, at 12:04 AM, " mrboysmom " <misterboysmom@...> wrote:

> We were giving Culturelle but then it started making him rage. I don't know

why.

> Deb

>

>

> > > > > How can I tell the difference between bacteria and virus? Are the

symptoms different?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Most bacteria symptoms at my house were related to anger, aggression,

and diarrhea. Virus symptoms were varied and not the same as bacteria. Here is a

page of virus info

> > > >

> > > > http://www.danasview.net/virfile.htm

> > > >

> > > > Dana

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Most treat for bacteria or viruses for years to resolve.

> > > Dana thank you, that's good information on virus'. I think bacteria might

be our problem and I've started him on OLE. It does cause die off and he rages

if I don't get in there with the Alka Seltzer Gold pretty quick after each dose.

> >

> >

> > OLE eliminated bacteria here, and also helped control viruses [which caused

yeast].

> >

> >

> > > I think antibiotics are anti-bacterial and I'm thinking about asking the

Dr for a round of those. I'm not sure why everyone discourages antibiotics if

in fact they kill bacteria and we have a bacteria problem.

> >

> >

> > Most people have a yeast problem, and antibiotics will make that worse. But

if your problem is bacteria, antibiotics should help.

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Probably just killing yeast and he doesn't feel good. Add that onto the high

threshold of other stuff he is dealing with and it's over the top. I would try

Custom Probiotics from OurkidsASD.com because it isn't packaged in aluminum, is

the same thing (plus bifidobacterium I think) and costs about the same.

> > > > > How can I tell the difference between bacteria and virus? Are the

symptoms different?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Most bacteria symptoms at my house were related to anger, aggression,

and diarrhea. Virus symptoms were varied and not the same as bacteria. Here is a

page of virus info

> > > >

> > > > http://www.danasview.net/virfile.htm

> > > >

> > > > Dana

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes, I was giving Culturelle at bedtime and also with meals. Yes, we definately

have constipation, it's one of his biggest problems and it causes head banging.

Deb

> > > > > > How can I tell the difference between bacteria and virus? Are the

symptoms different?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Most bacteria symptoms at my house were related to anger, aggression,

and diarrhea. Virus symptoms were varied and not the same as bacteria. Here is a

page of virus info

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.danasview.net/virfile.htm

> > > > >

> > > > > Dana

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Wow Haven that is really interesting. Since you had that experience with

antibiotics then what have you found to be comparable with the naturals? I have

tried OLE last week with my boy but it did cause gas and I had to stop it after

a few days because he started raging again. I don't know if I will try it again

at a lower dose or try OoO instead. I'm interested to know what others are

trying and at what doseages. My boy is 15yo and 143 lbs and I had tried 500mg

OLE several times a day.

I also wonder what you mean by the good bacteria. I had to take him off the

Culturelle and he is not getting any probiotics because they all made him rage.

So I'm worried after reading your post.

Lately I'm thinking that I'm trying too many things at once. I may just stick

with AC chelation for another few months and not try to add in any bacteria or

virus support, it might be too much for him right now.

I LOVE AC chelation and now he is starting to talk more and share his interests

with me.

Deb

>

> Because antibiotics not only kill the bad bacteria, they kill off the good

> bacteria, as well --still leaving the body quite unbalanced.

>

> The other problem with antibiotics is that bacteria - like all other living

> things " will find a way " to go on surviving. So with the use of

> antibiotics, bacteria mutate and change in order to go on surviving. It is

> the over use of antibiotics that has given rise to super bugs.

>

> That being said, I can well understand wanting to use them. I lost count of

> how many times my son has had to be on antibiotics over the years due to

> pneumonia, bronchitis, strep, cellulitis/staph infections. But over these

> years it worried me that he would become resistant to their use.

>

> On the good side, I credit the use of an IM, broad spectrum antibiotic with

> convincing me that " autism " in my son was biomedical in nature. He was two

> and had come down with his first bout of pneumonia. He was fine in the

> afternoon, but by two AM we were at the hospital with a significant

> pneumonia in his right lung.

>

> He was given a broad spectrum antibiotic IM for two days and followed up

> with oral Omnicef for ten. On the forth day of treatment, our son sat up

> and said every word he had known before regression. He had not said a word

> - any word in twelve months. Of course, I ran to the Internet and found

> studies where they had used Vancomycin in ASD children, and it had produced

> improvement. The study said, however, that when the antibiotic was stopped,

> the children regressed to base line.

>

> My son did not regress to base line and we built on the speech that

> remained, but this incident was enough to convince me to do biomedical along

> with therapeutic interventions.

>

> So antibiotics can have a role, I think, but if I had known about natural

> antivirals and antibacterials way back then, I would have tried them first,

> and use synthetic when I absolutely had to.

>

> If good bacteria get too low, this is a very bad thing, too, and you

> wouldn't like the treatment for that if it came down to it -- not pleasant.

>

> We are early in the AC Protocol now, but I have to say that since we

> started, we have not needed synthetics. For the first time in years, my son

> has not even needed to use his rescue inhaler at all! Only time will tell.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

So wait, he is not on ANY probiotic? And you are doing chelation??

I think the raging is his yeast/bacteria sign. What you are seeing when you

give probiotics and/or antimicrobials is die off. What I think I see happening

here is that you aren't getting past the die-off phase. It could mean that your

son is VERY infected with overgrowth.

With our son, we had to start VERY very low on things like GSE and OLE, because

he would get very aggressive and angry, plus his yeasty signs (tics, sensory

irritation, low-frustration threshold, etc) would go sky high. At first, I

thought it was irritating him or that he was not tolerating the things I was

giving him. It turned out that when I pressed on at lower, tolerable doses

(still causing an increase in symptoms though) we would come through the other

side with a new child! Please read my blog post on this, here is the link -

http://grayson-youarewhatyoueat.blogspot.com/2011/01/neutraceuticals-for-yeast-b\

acteria.html

There are many other blog posts from our journey, here is the page where you can

find them all categorized -

http://grayson-youarewhatyoueat.blogspot.com/p/my-blog-at-your-fingertips.html

Please feel free to e-mail me directly, if you would like to talk this through

more.

> >

> > Because antibiotics not only kill the bad bacteria, they kill off the good

> > bacteria, as well --still leaving the body quite unbalanced.

> >

> > The other problem with antibiotics is that bacteria - like all other living

> > things " will find a way " to go on surviving. So with the use of

> > antibiotics, bacteria mutate and change in order to go on surviving. It is

> > the over use of antibiotics that has given rise to super bugs.

> >

> > That being said, I can well understand wanting to use them. I lost count of

> > how many times my son has had to be on antibiotics over the years due to

> > pneumonia, bronchitis, strep, cellulitis/staph infections. But over these

> > years it worried me that he would become resistant to their use.

> >

> > On the good side, I credit the use of an IM, broad spectrum antibiotic with

> > convincing me that " autism " in my son was biomedical in nature. He was two

> > and had come down with his first bout of pneumonia. He was fine in the

> > afternoon, but by two AM we were at the hospital with a significant

> > pneumonia in his right lung.

> >

> > He was given a broad spectrum antibiotic IM for two days and followed up

> > with oral Omnicef for ten. On the forth day of treatment, our son sat up

> > and said every word he had known before regression. He had not said a word

> > - any word in twelve months. Of course, I ran to the Internet and found

> > studies where they had used Vancomycin in ASD children, and it had produced

> > improvement. The study said, however, that when the antibiotic was stopped,

> > the children regressed to base line.

> >

> > My son did not regress to base line and we built on the speech that

> > remained, but this incident was enough to convince me to do biomedical along

> > with therapeutic interventions.

> >

> > So antibiotics can have a role, I think, but if I had known about natural

> > antivirals and antibacterials way back then, I would have tried them first,

> > and use synthetic when I absolutely had to.

> >

> > If good bacteria get too low, this is a very bad thing, too, and you

> > wouldn't like the treatment for that if it came down to it -- not pleasant.

> >

> > We are early in the AC Protocol now, but I have to say that since we

> > started, we have not needed synthetics. For the first time in years, my son

> > has not even needed to use his rescue inhaler at all! Only time will tell.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Deb,

You cannot do AC chelation without the metabolic support ( I mean I believe

all our children need vitamin/mineral/amino acid support). Chelation is hard

on the body. If you have not done so already, please read Dr. McCandless'

book, " Children with Starving Brains, " and hopefully you have read Andy's

book so that you are well versed in how to properly do AC chelation.

The fact your child is on no probiotics gives me pause. I know each child

is different, but I haven't heard of the side effects you mentioned, except

perhaps if you are using the Culturelle that contains casein. I know they

make a form of Culturelle that is supposed to be casein free.

How many different brands of probiotics have you tried? If only Culturelle,

you need to try another. We use different ones from Kirkman's but last time

I think I bought one from vrp. Sometimes rage can come from die off -- Die

off can cause some weird behaviors.

Hopefully, per Andy, your child is on the vitamin and mineral support he

needs to undergo AC chelation.

You are right. It isn't best to give a whole bunch of new things at once.

Add one new things at a time and take notes. then you can more easily

determine which supplement is causing the problem.

However, with yeast and bacteria (and even changing diet) things tend to

get worse before they get better. Sometimes you just have to push through.

For my son, when we started the gf/cf/sf diet, we took casein away first,

and OM gosh! The withdrawal was horrendous. I cried every day just trying

to get through one tantrum after the other. The withdrawal went on for three

weeks, but then things got better! Then after we got comfortable without

casein, we removed gluten and then later we removed soy. (Removing soy

brought about a wow! moment)

My son had to have antibiotics for cellulitis back in September of last

year. Then we started to prepare to do AC. Since he was fifteen months

old, he has been put on antibiotics of one sort or another about every two

to three weeks. Strangely, he tends to improve on antibiotics, but once he

is off, he regresses. I am looking for permanent improvement, and I know

that he needs probiotics because antibiotics have been over used in him.

My son was also put on a nebulizer to be used with both Xopanex and

Pulmacort and had rescue inhalers of both. One pediatric pulmonologist we

saw wanted to put him on five different steroids throughout the day. We

thought NOT.

I am being cautiously optimistic, but since beginning AC chelation, our son

has not had an infection, has not needed antibiotics, and has not needed any

asthma meds. On the first day of AC, he started having asthma symptoms. I

did give a little Benadryl, but then on the next dose when it started, I

gave him a little Ace, and the asthmatic symptoms subsided. He has not

needed any type of asthma meds since, so I am really curious to see if this

remains.

This is the longest my son has ever gone without needing asthma meds or

antibiotics.

Yeast is a big problem, and we are using GSE and biotin but will probably

have to add something else to combat it.

We are just getting started with AC -- about to start round four, but I,

too, see some subtle improvements in him initiating conversation and most

notably his health.

[Guest guest]

Yes, I have read her book, and I have ready Andy's. He is taking a lot of supps

all in very healthy doses. He has been strict GFCF for 10 years. But no, he is

not getting any probiotics because the two we have tried made him rage.

I do not believe he can handle die off of any sort. I'm not willing to provide

something that makes him go through die off when it will make him rage. Rage is

a serious dangerous thing, he is a large 15yo boy.

After 10 rounds of AC chelation I can say that what we are doing, it is working.

We have never seen him this happy. He is laughing and giggling and dancing down

the halls. He is so happy at school. His digestive symptoms are lessened and

he is a joy to be around. We are on the right track.

As for the details of how I will remove any virus or bacteria, I just don't know

yet. I hope the AC chelation will make things easier down the road. His body

will be more well, he will be able to handle it better later. We are having to

do this slow and low because everything we try to address them, it makes things

worse. I'm not willing to go to worse right now.

Deb

>

> Deb,

>

> You cannot do AC chelation without the metabolic support ( I mean I believe

> all our children need vitamin/mineral/amino acid support). Chelation is hard

> on the body. If you have not done so already, please read Dr. McCandless'

> book, " Children with Starving Brains, " and hopefully you have read Andy's

> book so that you are well versed in how to properly do AC chelation.

>

> The fact your child is on no probiotics gives me pause. I know each child

> is different, but I haven't heard of the side effects you mentioned, except

> perhaps if you are using the Culturelle that contains casein. I know they

> make a form of Culturelle that is supposed to be casein free.

>

> How many different brands of probiotics have you tried? If only Culturelle,

> you need to try another. We use different ones from Kirkman's but last time

> I think I bought one from vrp. Sometimes rage can come from die off -- Die

> off can cause some weird behaviors.

>

> Hopefully, per Andy, your child is on the vitamin and mineral support he

> needs to undergo AC chelation.

>

> You are right. It isn't best to give a whole bunch of new things at once.

> Add one new things at a time and take notes. then you can more easily

> determine which supplement is causing the problem.

>

> However, with yeast and bacteria (and even changing diet) things tend to

> get worse before they get better. Sometimes you just have to push through.

>

> For my son, when we started the gf/cf/sf diet, we took casein away first,

> and OM gosh! The withdrawal was horrendous. I cried every day just trying

> to get through one tantrum after the other. The withdrawal went on for three

> weeks, but then things got better! Then after we got comfortable without

> casein, we removed gluten and then later we removed soy. (Removing soy

> brought about a wow! moment)

>

> My son had to have antibiotics for cellulitis back in September of last

> year. Then we started to prepare to do AC. Since he was fifteen months

> old, he has been put on antibiotics of one sort or another about every two

> to three weeks. Strangely, he tends to improve on antibiotics, but once he

> is off, he regresses. I am looking for permanent improvement, and I know

> that he needs probiotics because antibiotics have been over used in him.

>

> My son was also put on a nebulizer to be used with both Xopanex and

> Pulmacort and had rescue inhalers of both. One pediatric pulmonologist we

> saw wanted to put him on five different steroids throughout the day. We

> thought NOT.

>

> I am being cautiously optimistic, but since beginning AC chelation, our son

> has not had an infection, has not needed antibiotics, and has not needed any

> asthma meds. On the first day of AC, he started having asthma symptoms. I

> did give a little Benadryl, but then on the next dose when it started, I

> gave him a little Ace, and the asthmatic symptoms subsided. He has not

> needed any type of asthma meds since, so I am really curious to see if this

> remains.

>

> This is the longest my son has ever gone without needing asthma meds or

> antibiotics.

>

> Yeast is a big problem, and we are using GSE and biotin but will probably

> have to add something else to combat it.

>

> We are just getting started with AC -- about to start round four, but I,

> too, see some subtle improvements in him initiating conversation and most

> notably his health.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

For me, if I had to use a Rx, I would. Also, I have gone through several

probiotics and around #60(we're on80 (?)), I believe I just figured out

probiotics. I only give probiotics at bedtime, during the night or early AM,

long before food. During the day is when I do my yeast fighting and other anti's

which seems to work.

I use culturelle and recently added custom probiotics d-lactate free which is

really doing wonders.

S

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 3, 2011, at 9:39 PM, " mrboysmom " <misterboysmom@...> wrote:

> Yes, I have read her book, and I have ready Andy's. He is taking a lot of

supps all in very healthy doses. He has been strict GFCF for 10 years. But no,

he is not getting any probiotics because the two we have tried made him rage.

>

> I do not believe he can handle die off of any sort. I'm not willing to provide

something that makes him go through die off when it will make him rage. Rage is

a serious dangerous thing, he is a large 15yo boy.

>

> After 10 rounds of AC chelation I can say that what we are doing, it is

working. We have never seen him this happy. He is laughing and giggling and

dancing down the halls. He is so happy at school. His digestive symptoms are

lessened and he is a joy to be around. We are on the right track.

>

> As for the details of how I will remove any virus or bacteria, I just don't

know yet. I hope the AC chelation will make things easier down the road. His

body will be more well, he will be able to handle it better later. We are having

to do this slow and low because everything we try to address them, it makes

things worse. I'm not willing to go to worse right now.

> Deb

>

>

> >

> > Deb,

> >

> > You cannot do AC chelation without the metabolic support ( I mean I believe

> > all our children need vitamin/mineral/amino acid support). Chelation is hard

> > on the body. If you have not done so already, please read Dr. McCandless'

> > book, " Children with Starving Brains, " and hopefully you have read Andy's

> > book so that you are well versed in how to properly do AC chelation.

> >

> > The fact your child is on no probiotics gives me pause. I know each child

> > is different, but I haven't heard of the side effects you mentioned, except

> > perhaps if you are using the Culturelle that contains casein. I know they

> > make a form of Culturelle that is supposed to be casein free.

> >

> > How many different brands of probiotics have you tried? If only Culturelle,

> > you need to try another. We use different ones from Kirkman's but last time

> > I think I bought one from vrp. Sometimes rage can come from die off -- Die

> > off can cause some weird behaviors.

> >

> > Hopefully, per Andy, your child is on the vitamin and mineral support he

> > needs to undergo AC chelation.

> >

> > You are right. It isn't best to give a whole bunch of new things at once.

> > Add one new things at a time and take notes. then you can more easily

> > determine which supplement is causing the problem.

> >

> > However, with yeast and bacteria (and even changing diet) things tend to

> > get worse before they get better. Sometimes you just have to push through.

> >

> > For my son, when we started the gf/cf/sf diet, we took casein away first,

> > and OM gosh! The withdrawal was horrendous. I cried every day just trying

> > to get through one tantrum after the other. The withdrawal went on for three

> > weeks, but then things got better! Then after we got comfortable without

> > casein, we removed gluten and then later we removed soy. (Removing soy

> > brought about a wow! moment)

> >

> > My son had to have antibiotics for cellulitis back in September of last

> > year. Then we started to prepare to do AC. Since he was fifteen months

> > old, he has been put on antibiotics of one sort or another about every two

> > to three weeks. Strangely, he tends to improve on antibiotics, but once he

> > is off, he regresses. I am looking for permanent improvement, and I know

> > that he needs probiotics because antibiotics have been over used in him.

> >

> > My son was also put on a nebulizer to be used with both Xopanex and

> > Pulmacort and had rescue inhalers of both. One pediatric pulmonologist we

> > saw wanted to put him on five different steroids throughout the day. We

> > thought NOT.

> >

> > I am being cautiously optimistic, but since beginning AC chelation, our son

> > has not had an infection, has not needed antibiotics, and has not needed any

> > asthma meds. On the first day of AC, he started having asthma symptoms. I

> > did give a little Benadryl, but then on the next dose when it started, I

> > gave him a little Ace, and the asthmatic symptoms subsided. He has not

> > needed any type of asthma meds since, so I am really curious to see if this

> > remains.

> >

> > This is the longest my son has ever gone without needing asthma meds or

> > antibiotics.

> >

> > Yeast is a big problem, and we are using GSE and biotin but will probably

> > have to add something else to combat it.

> >

> > We are just getting started with AC -- about to start round four, but I,

> > too, see some subtle improvements in him initiating conversation and most

> > notably his health.

> >

> >

> >