Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Just saw DAN who says porphyrins show metals and also high oxylates (he also has high copper levels). DAN knows we're very wary of chelation and suggested we use Chlorella. According to info I read from Andy Cutler you shouldn't use Chorella since it moves metals too slowly and could get stuck ad make it worse. Anyone had any experience with this? Don't know which way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I would listen to Andy. We were scared of chelation too. IV did not go so well for my son and we were scared to start AC, but we did, and we are glad we did. We have seen some major improvement in some areas and he continues to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 I accidentally used chlorella in a greens supplement trying to alkalinize my son when he first started regressing. He got REALLY sick, really regressed, really bad. I would NOT recommend it. My son is now officially recovered, his diagnosis is removed. We used AC chelation protocol. I fired 2 DAN doctors and did it on my own. Both DAN doctors I used made my son worse. IMO, the vast majority of DAN doctors are NOT recovering kids, and not even much helping them. They sure make plenty of money though. > > Just saw DAN who says porphyrins show metals and also high oxylates (he also has high copper levels). DAN knows we're very wary of chelation and suggested we use Chlorella. According to info I read from Andy Cutler you shouldn't use Chorella since it moves metals too slowly and could get stuck ad make it worse. Anyone had any experience with this? Don't know which way to go. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Hi, How many rounds did you do before you felt he was recovered? So you did it completely with no help from a doctor? > > > > Just saw DAN who says porphyrins show metals and also high oxylates (he also has high copper levels). DAN knows we're very wary of chelation and suggested we use Chlorella. According to info I read from Andy Cutler you shouldn't use Chorella since it moves metals too slowly and could get stuck ad make it worse. Anyone had any experience with this? Don't know which way to go. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 , I agree. it would be nice if we could use them and tell them what we want them to do, but they push towards their own expensive agendas. Who did you go to if you wanted a CBC or other tests? Haven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Yes, , I too would be interested in hearing more about your experiences. Thank you! On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Haven DeLay <hdelay@...> wrote: > > > , > > I agree. it would be nice if we could use them and tell them what we want > them to do, but they push towards their own expensive agendas. > > Who did you go to if you wanted a CBC or other tests? > > Haven > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 No, I do not " feel " he is recovered. His ATEC went from a 65 to a 6. The doctor we saw each year for an assessment/eval officially removed is ASD diagnosis. He met and exceeded ALL his goals in ALL his therapies. He graduated from speech, sensory, OT, PT, behavioral therapies. He has NO therapies. He only has psychological counseling every other week (he was old enough to remember regressing and had a bad hospital experience one time which left him with PTSD). He is like every other kid in our neighborhood - he has friends, goes to birthday parties, we travel, and no one would know he ever had an ASD dx unless I tell them, and then they are shocked and frankly don't believe me. He is also highly gifted and that is apparent quickly when speaking with him and people assume that I somewhow " misunderstood " him being smart for autism. That is not the case: again his ATEC was a 65 at time of diagnosis. He had lost his potty training, was verbal but usually only 2 word (nonsense) sentences. He lost a ton of weight. He had huge viral issues, as well, so we had GI problems constantly. Severe sensory issues. We barely left the house the first year after he regressed, as getting him dressed usually resulted in me getting kicked, bit, punched - black eyes, bruises, blood, and even a concussion here and there were my daily life from trying to raise my four year old. He as severely aggressive and violent. We pulled him out of preschool and enrolled him in a special needs preschool. For AC chelation I did NOT use a doctor. I did not use ANY doctor for supplments or chelation. I had 2 hair tests run - one when my child was first diagnosed, and one taken the week his diagnosis was removed. He had no other testing run during that time. He saw our open minded DO family doc once a year for a brief checkup and that was it. I read, studied, dug out physiology texts to refresh, bought books on holistic nutrition and herbs, and scoured Dana's site and this group. I learned " muscle testing " (Applied Kinesiology) which is considered malarky by many, but it worked here -can't argue with the results. I do body/energy work for a living, though. We chelated 3 weekends out of 4, sometimes every other for almost 2 years before we reached the point of losing the dx. I did boatloads of other things with AC chelation, from a holistic health/energy medicine standpoint, and therapies (not ABA, though) too. I worked with him, with or without therapists daily, most of the day. Sort of my own individualized mishmash of RDI/Sonrise. Whatever worked. About 4 months before his dx was removed, his ATEC was down in the mid teens and we found a homeopathist (who does happen to be a holistic only MD, but formerly was a pediatrician) I felt was knowledgable and understood how I approached healing for my child. We started classical homeopathy WITH chelation (not instead of) and saw more gains, and more viral issues clear up (we have down repeated courses of viral supplements, too). Four months later his dx was removed. He's doing fantastic today (6 months later). He takes very minimal supplements, parasite herbs and yeast treatment as needed, we continue to chelate until the mercury levels come down some more. We continue with homeopathy. > > > > > > Just saw DAN who says porphyrins show metals and also high oxylates (he also has high copper levels). DAN knows we're very wary of chelation and suggested we use Chlorella. According to info I read from Andy Cutler you shouldn't use Chorella since it moves metals too slowly and could get stuck ad make it worse. Anyone had any experience with this? Don't know which way to go. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Haven, I did not get those tests. We had no need for them. If I really, really had wanted a test, I believe our family doc (a fairly open minded DO) would have ordered them for me, but she would not order anything " not typical " like a hair test. She would have had to justify it to the practice. But we had no testing run. My son had PTSD from a bad hospital experience and we ONLY take blood if it is very, very seriously needed. > > , > > I agree. it would be nice if we could use them and tell them what we want > them to do, but they push towards their own expensive agendas. > > Who did you go to if you wanted a CBC or other tests? > > Haven > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Thanks . I had a very open-minded DO when we started biomed. She was will ing to consult with ANDY but I blew it at the time. She is now retried. I am searching for an open-minded DO for all of us. How did you find yours? I wish she was in North Texas! Haven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I was giving chair massages at a hospital to employees as a way to give back to the community and promote business. I had some open minded DO's (women) come in for massages and one asked me to do a spa party at her house (I had a business partner at the time who sold organic spa products and cosmetics and was a beautician). When I went to her house and we got to chatting I found out her husband was an integrative MD who used TCM and acupuncture in his regular practice (he only worked with adults though). I told them my concerns about finding a new family physician/ped and they recommended someone. I researched her, and scheduled an appt to find out how open minded she would be with my son. I walked out with a new doctor and a medical exemption for my son's vax's. I gave up on Pediatricians and started searching for an integrative doctor or family physician. Ask around in your natural health community (massage therapists, chiro's, etc.) and see who they use. > > Thanks . > > I had a very open-minded DO when we started biomed. She was will ing to > consult with ANDY but I blew it at the time. She is now retried. > > I am searching for an open-minded DO for all of us. How did you find > yours? I wish she was in North Texas! > > Haven > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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