Re: Feeling lost in a sea of info

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> I have no diagnosis but my 2 1/2 year old daughter has some redflags  that has

led my endless hours researching autism.  My sister is a PA within a GI doctors

office so I'm going to seek her medical know how since all things seem to be gut

related. Also hoping since she is in my insurance coverage labs will be covered

as well for testing.  

>

> Has anyone had test results not showing a need for chelation here.

The test that is usually useful is an essential elements hair test from Doctors

Data Inc.

If the child has no amalgam and has not had recent metals exposure (for example

from thimerosal in a vaccine) then a trial of chelation is the most definitive

test. Side effects or improvements with trials of chelation indicate toxicity.

>  I see everyone talk about yeast but how do you know if you are dealing with

yeast problems.  Is it strictly based on behavior???

> I had started an anti-yeast protocol with bee propolis which is suppose to be

anti viral, anti fungal, anti bacterial but in doing so I think I've increased

hyperactivity more so than usual.  Then I read treating yeast before heavy

metals will rerelease toxins that are in the yeast making things worse so I've

now halted my attack against yeast.  

>

> If a persons gut is compromised won't it to be hard to process the DMSA or ALA

orally.

No

>   Can dosage be done via suppository as opposed to orally.

Suppository is actually worse than oral for several reasons. One is that rectal

absorption is more erratic. Rectal dosage forms are more expensive and more

difficult to control dose. Suppositories are not suitable.

>  My daughter is 2 1/2 and I'm scared of trying an oral chelation protocol

because she won't take anything from a syringe.  I have to hide everything in

stuff she likes in hopes she will finish it.  I don't know how I would wake her

up to get a dosage in her.

There are many suggestions from experienced parents compiled in Moria's webpages

(linked to from the LoveLetters on the homepage and in the links section).

Usually oral will work with some talking it over with other parents and thought.

If it is impossible ALA can be used transdermally.

>  She is still in diapers so I thought a suppository route might be more

feasible in sticking to the AC protocol.  Is that possible???  

>

> How do you know if they need to be on a specialized diet of if they are

allergic to x,y, or z?  She is already is picky enough I don't want to starve

her as well. 

>

Foods can be tested by elimination and challenge. avoid the food for 4 days,

then on the 5th day give her as much as she will take then note reactions.

There are blood tests available that would be if food sensitivities are a real

problem (because no one wants to draw blood from a child unless absolutely

necessary)

Often the child is sensitive to the foods that she has an aversion to and the

ones that she craves.

> Also is it correct to think that chelation will cure the intestinal problems

of food sensitivities and yeast???  

>

If you follow the progress adults and children who chelate (with Andy's

protocol), that is what has happened to many.....

> I've seen recommendations to be apart of some other forum but I can't get to

it.  Recovering from autism. 

>

RecoveryFromAutism/

> So feeling overwhelmed but I keep reading parents saying they wish they would

have done it sooner so this will by my starting point. 

>

I wish I had done it sooner ;0)

> If I am headed in the wrong direction or if anyone can recommend flavorless

easy to hide supplements to support chelation please let me know. 

>

> My uncle is Chiropractor and asked for ways to eliminate lead -

http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

http://www.noamalgam.com/

>

> " Apparently the most expedient way of eliminating lead is magnesium

treatment. "

No..... ;0)

"  This would involve taking magnesium lactate, 500 mg 4 times per day.  This is

done in conjunction with serial DMSA chelation treatment done on a serial basis.

 Of special note is the requirement to avoid fluoridated water.  Biochemical

markers of lead toxicity can be measured the lab work including lead levels

itself and protoporphyrin and delta-amino-levulenic acid.

>  

> Increasing antioxidant protection via;

> natural vitamin C with bioflavonoids, hespirin rutin and quercetin, 200 mg per

day in divided doses taken on an empty stomach with no other food for 45 min.

> Natural vitamin E, mixed tocopherol form, 100 IU's per day

> N-acetyl L-cysteine [NAC] 150 mg per day

> Alpha-lipoic acid 10 mg 2 times per day

> Calcium pyruvate 50 mg 2 times per day "

>

> I just saw the ALA in there I would probably follow the recommended dosage

base on the AC protocol. 

>

Good for you. ALA must be taken every 3h, or more frequently, around the clock

for several days in order to get the net movement of metals OUT of the body.

When taken randomly, like above, it will move metals INTO the brain and organs.

J

> So any input would be great. 

>

> Thanks, a

>

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. It

has been very helpful and I will try to look up more on the oral administration

part.

> >

> >

> > I have no diagnosis but my 2 1/2 year old daughter has some redflags  that

has led my endless hours researching autism.  My sister is a PA within a GI

doctors office so I'm going to seek her medical know how since all things seem

to be gut related. Also hoping since she is in my insurance coverage labs will

be covered as well for testing.  

> >

> > Has anyone had test results not showing a need for chelation here.

>

>

>

> The test that is usually useful is an essential elements hair test from

Doctors Data Inc.

>

> If the child has no amalgam and has not had recent metals exposure (for

example from thimerosal in a vaccine) then a trial of chelation is the most

definitive test. Side effects or improvements with trials of chelation indicate

toxicity.

>

>

>

> >  I see everyone talk about yeast but how do you know if you are dealing with

yeast problems.  Is it strictly based on behavior???

>

> > I had started an anti-yeast protocol with bee propolis which is suppose to

be anti viral, anti fungal, anti bacterial but in doing so I think I've

increased hyperactivity more so than usual.  Then I read treating yeast before

heavy metals will rerelease toxins that are in the yeast making things worse so

I've now halted my attack against yeast.  

> >

> > If a persons gut is compromised won't it to be hard to process the DMSA or

ALA orally.

>

>

> No

>

>

> >   Can dosage be done via suppository as opposed to orally.

>

> Suppository is actually worse than oral for several reasons. One is that

rectal absorption is more erratic. Rectal dosage forms are more expensive and

more difficult to control dose. Suppositories are not suitable.

>

>

> >  My daughter is 2 1/2 and I'm scared of trying an oral chelation protocol

because she won't take anything from a syringe.  I have to hide everything in

stuff she likes in hopes she will finish it.  I don't know how I would wake her

up to get a dosage in her.

>

>

>

> There are many suggestions from experienced parents compiled in Moria's

webpages (linked to from the LoveLetters on the homepage and in the links

section). Usually oral will work with some talking it over with other parents

and thought. If it is impossible ALA can be used transdermally.

>

>

> >  She is still in diapers so I thought a suppository route might be more

feasible in sticking to the AC protocol.  Is that possible???  

> >

> > How do you know if they need to be on a specialized diet of if they are

allergic to x,y, or z?  She is already is picky enough I don't want to starve

her as well. 

> >

>

>

> Foods can be tested by elimination and challenge. avoid the food for 4 days,

then on the 5th day give her as much as she will take then note reactions.

There are blood tests available that would be if food sensitivities are a real

problem (because no one wants to draw blood from a child unless absolutely

necessary)

>

> Often the child is sensitive to the foods that she has an aversion to and the

ones that she craves.

>

>

>

> > Also is it correct to think that chelation will cure the intestinal problems

of food sensitivities and yeast???  

> >

>

> If you follow the progress adults and children who chelate (with Andy's

protocol), that is what has happened to many.....

>

>

>

> > I've seen recommendations to be apart of some other forum but I can't get to

it.  Recovering from autism. 

> >

>

>

> RecoveryFromAutism/

>

>

> > So feeling overwhelmed but I keep reading parents saying they wish they

would have done it sooner so this will by my starting point. 

> >

>

> I wish I had done it sooner ;0)

>

>

>

> > If I am headed in the wrong direction or if anyone can recommend flavorless

easy to hide supplements to support chelation please let me know. 

> >

> > My uncle is Chiropractor and asked for ways to eliminate lead -

>

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/

>

>

> >

> > " Apparently the most expedient way of eliminating lead is magnesium

treatment. "

>

> No..... ;0)

>

>

> "  This would involve taking magnesium lactate, 500 mg 4 times per day.  This

is done in conjunction with serial DMSA chelation treatment done on a serial

basis.  Of special note is the requirement to avoid fluoridated water.

 Biochemical markers of lead toxicity can be measured the lab work including

lead levels itself and protoporphyrin and delta-amino-levulenic acid.

> >  

> > Increasing antioxidant protection via;

> > natural vitamin C with bioflavonoids, hespirin rutin and quercetin, 200 mg

per day in divided doses taken on an empty stomach with no other food for 45

min.

> > Natural vitamin E, mixed tocopherol form, 100 IU's per day

> > N-acetyl L-cysteine [NAC] 150 mg per day

> > Alpha-lipoic acid 10 mg 2 times per day

> > Calcium pyruvate 50 mg 2 times per day "

> >

> > I just saw the ALA in there I would probably follow the recommended dosage

base on the AC protocol. 

> >

>

> Good for you. ALA must be taken every 3h, or more frequently, around the

clock for several days in order to get the net movement of metals OUT of the

body. When taken randomly, like above, it will move metals INTO the brain and

organs.

>

> J

>

>

> > So any input would be great. 

> >

> > Thanks, a

> >

>