Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 While chelating the metals, you will need to address yeast; especially if you will be using DMSA. Both bee pollen and GSE can give a hyper response if not tolerated or sensitive.  S. > >From: shawna3878 <shawna3878@...> > >Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 5:35:43 AM >Subject: [ ] Re: Treating Yeast w/ GSE = Increased Hyper, Mood >Swings - Help! > > >I was just googling a bunch of stuff but I was read an abstracted quote >basically saying you need to first detox the metals before addressing yeast >issues. That addressing yeast first will rerelease the mercury back into the >bloodstream making symptoms worse. These past couple of days I gave my dd some >gse and bee propolis and she started thevday super hyperactive and more >aggressive so I'm going to stop and rethink my plans. > > > >> >> Hi all, >> I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with increased >>probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C. >> >> He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's been really >>hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little bumps on his >>elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off? >> >> Should I increase the GSE & mag? Remove GSE? I'm not sure what to do. >> >> Any advice would be much appreciated >> Thank you, >> >> >> Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of cake and ice >>cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue. >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 You can increase your GSE dose; we did at least two tablets when we dosed which is " lite " and my daughter is the same size as your son.  Make sure you have the no-fenol when you do it.  Watch for constipation when giving the Biotin at mealtime because you may need to add Magnesium. S. > >From: AdinsMom <athomenetjobs@...> > >Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 1:36:09 PM >Subject: [ ] Re: Treating Yeast w/ GSE = Increased Hyper, Mood >Swings - Help! > > >Thank you . I give him 125mg GSE in the afternoon. Probiotics were just >in evening, I've started twice per day now. It's Swanson Probiotic Complex > >Lactobacillus rhamnous 2 bil >Lact. acidophilus 1 bil >Lact. lactis 500 mil >Bifidobacterium longum 500 mil >Streptococcus thermophilus 200 mil >FOS (fructooligosaccharides) 400mg > > >> >> > Hi all, >> > I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with increased >>probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C. >> > >> > He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's been >>really hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little bumps on >>his elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off? >> > >> > Should I increase the GSE & mag? Remove GSE? I'm not sure what to do. >> > >> > Any advice would be much appreciated >> > Thank you, >> > >> > >> > Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of cake and >>ice cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue. >> > >> > >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Grapefruit Seed Extract S. [ ] Re: Treating Yeast w/ GSE = Increased Hyper, Mood >Swings - Help! > > What does GSE stands for? > Thx in advance > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > > ------------------------------------ > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 When I gave GSE, it was during the day .... after meals and I gave 2 at a time. OoO worked better for us during that time. If you are splitting 150-200mg into 2 doses during the day then you are not giving enough.  I believe Andy recommends 10 mg per lb. My daughter is 68lbs, I can only dose twice a day so I give 300mg 2x per day. Sometimes I give more when needed.  S. > >From: AdinsMom <athomenetjobs@...> > >Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 6:15:28 PM >Subject: [ ] Re: Treating Yeast w/ GSE = Increased Hyper, Mood >Swings - Help! > > > >, >did you give two tabs GSE at a time? or what times did you give it? >I've ordered No Fenol so will wait til it arrives to up the dose. He already >takes mag for constipation issues, I may have to increase the dose on that too. >He's taking 150-200mg of mag split 3x/day. >thanks for your help, > > > >> >> >> >> > Hi all, >> >> > I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with >>increased >> >> >>probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C. >> >> > >> >> > He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's been >> >>really hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little bumps on >> >> >>his elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off? >> >> > >> >> > Should I increase the GSE & mag? Remove GSE? I'm not sure what to do. >> >> > >> >> > Any advice would be much appreciated >> >> > Thank you, >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of cake >>and >> >> >>ice cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Do we get GSE with no phenols.I have been using GSE but doesn't know it is available as no phenols also. Can any one send the link where to buy gse wiyh no Phenols. Thank you Nazeema ________________________________ From: AdinsMom <athomenetjobs@...> Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 5:15:28 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Treating Yeast w/ GSE = Increased Hyper, Mood Swings - Help!  , did you give two tabs GSE at a time? or what times did you give it? I've ordered No Fenol so will wait til it arrives to up the dose. He already takes mag for constipation issues, I may have to increase the dose on that too. He's taking 150-200mg of mag split 3x/day. thanks for your help, > >> > >> > Hi all, > >> > I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with >increased > > >>probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C. > >> > > >> > He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's been > >>really hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little bumps on > > >>his elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off? > >> > > >> > Should I increase the GSE & mag? Remove GSE? I'm not sure what to do. > >> > > >> > Any advice would be much appreciated > >> > Thank you, > >> > > >> > > >> > Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of cake >and > > >>ice cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue. > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Yes, those doses are recommended while chelating but I continue the Mag off-round also. With the stuff I give for yeast and working on the gut, I find it helps. (In the beginning, my daughter's yeast symptoms were similar to her constipation symptoms: toe walking, hand flapping, etc.) If you start chelation, you may want to try a different type of mag. Thinking back to your original post, you may want to look at adrenal cortex extract also. S Sent from my iPhone On Feb 14, 2011, at 11:01 PM, " AdinsMom " <athomenetjobs@...> wrote: > > , > > Isn't that high dose of magnesium recommended for those that are chelating? > I would think otherwise it would depend on the individual need. The reason I say that is because I've giving him higher doses at one point when he was impacted and it made him extremely lethargic. > Maybe I'm wrong, just seems like a lot. > thanks for your help, I really appreciate it > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > Hi all, > > >> >> > I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with > > >>increased > > >> > > >> >>probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's been > > > > >> >>really hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little bumps on > > >> > > >> >>his elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off? > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Should I increase the GSE & mag? Remove GSE? I'm not sure what to do. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Any advice would be much appreciated > > >> >> > Thank you, > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of cake > > >>and > > >> > > >> >>ice cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 GSE contains phenol. You would by a no-phenol enzyme to take when taking the GSE. S Sent from my iPhone On Feb 14, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Nazeema Shaik <s_nazeema@...> wrote: > Do we get GSE with no phenols.I have been using GSE but doesn't know it is > available as no phenols also. > Can any one send the link where to buy gse wiyh no Phenols. > > Thank you > Nazeema > > ________________________________ > From: AdinsMom <athomenetjobs@...> > > Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 5:15:28 PM > Subject: [ ] Re: Treating Yeast w/ GSE = Increased Hyper, Mood > Swings - Help! > > > > , > did you give two tabs GSE at a time? or what times did you give it? > I've ordered No Fenol so will wait til it arrives to up the dose. He already > takes mag for constipation issues, I may have to increase the dose on that too. > He's taking 150-200mg of mag split 3x/day. > thanks for your help, > > > > > >> > > >> > Hi all, > > >> > I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with > >increased > > > > >>probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C. > > >> > > > >> > He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's been > > >>really hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little bumps on > > > > >>his elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off? > > >> > > > >> > Should I increase the GSE & mag? Remove GSE? I'm not sure what to do. > > >> > > > >> > Any advice would be much appreciated > > >> > Thank you, > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of cake > >and > > > > >>ice cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 The biggest difference I see when fighting yeast is when I use probiotics; I'm currently using Syntol (2 capsules at bedtime) at it has worked wonders so far. Also, I give a 1/2 capsule of Candidase at least an hour before breakfast.  I also give Aloe Vera juice mixed with juice on an empty stomach and I make sure we have fiber (I use Psyllium Husks). Another thing I do is give biotin/mag with meals. We used OoO in the past more than we used GSE. After awhile, OoO stopped working, even at an increased dose. Let me add that we are on #82 so how we fight yeast has really changed. S. > >From: allisonweeks0 <danweeks@...> > >Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 7:08:44 AM >Subject: [ ] Re: Treating Yeast w/ GSE = Increased Hyper, Mood >Swings - Help! > > >What else besides GFE is good you treating yeast? My son is on concerta and can >not take GFE? > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > Hi all, >> > > >> > I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with >> > >increased >> > > >> > > >>probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's >>been >> >> > > >>really hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little >>bumps on >> >> > > >> > > >>his elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off? >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Should I increase the GSE & mag? Remove GSE? I'm not sure what to do. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Any advice would be much appreciated >> > > >> > Thank you, >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of >>cake >> >> > >and >> > > >> > > >>ice cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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