Threelac

[Guest guest]

Hi,

U being in India try " Bifilac " from Tablets India Ltd. in collaboration with

Japan.

Similar to 3Lac, & better.

Shila

Threelac

> Hi all, Shan,

>

> Threelac is this ' miracle drug' for Candida - contains three different

strains of Bacteria. Am toying with the idea that maybe I have something

else causing bloating after meals and some of the other symptoms. Don't know

if the NHS in the UK here would run some tests for me, will have to check

with a consultant.

>

> I do the spit test every other day and there are these giant strings which

show up almost instantly and cloudy specks down after just ten minutes or

so...I bought it online from a distributor at

http://www.synergy-health.co.uk/supplements/threelac.html if you want to

read up more about what it does.

>

> Has anybody here cured Candida with threelac? I've done a liver cleanse

twice with fabulous results. But the kidney tea sounds a bit of an expensive

cleanse...I'd rather go with coffee enemas - read about those on sea silver

too.

>

> Being a coastal area, most Goan cooking involves a lot of coconut..so here

are some links below for Shan and those who are keen and adventurous...

>

> Ciao,

> Cleona

>

>

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/database/cheatsgoanmackerelcu_72061.shtml

>

> http://www.tips4me.com/tips/recipes/preview_main.asp?tip=goan_goan

>

> http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/database/goancoconutchutney_5109.shtml

>

>

> Time is not a line, but a series of now points.

> - Taisen Deshimaru

>

> India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Shan,

Another Canadian. Wow.

I know it takes a while to get used to the diet, but if you stay on it for 3

months, you will notice that when you eat your previous junk food, your body

starts to feel sick.

It takes time for the body to adjust & sugar is the hardest to kick.

We are here for you if you need support.

Re: Threelac

I wouldn't be " jealous when you read about die-off " if I was you

(which I am not). How would you like to feel like a monkey that has both a

bad

case of fleas and bad case of lice? Well; that is what I have just recently

felt like for over 4 days - I needed about 10 arms to scratch everything that

itched at once. But I haven't mentioned the headaches! - for a person like

me

whom never gets headaches except sinus ones, these headaches where something

else; sort of like a steel band squeezing around your head. No - I wouldn't

wish all that on anybody. Of coarse the temperatures and sore throats and

sore glands are great fun too. I still itch after 10 days - though not as

badly.

What is " threelac " ? I live is Canada - is there a different name for

it?

I really empathize with your feelings regarding the diet - I am

finding it a real pain to stay away from breads, starches (including rices),

and

anything with vinegar in it. I have a cookbook for making things that used

vinegar and use unbuffered vitamin C - but it is so time consuming and unless

it

is a special occassion am not keen on spending lots of time in the kitchen.

Maybe I will try your coconut based curries - could you please post me some

recipes?

Blessings

Shan

In a message dated 8/17/04 12:59:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

cleonalira2000@... writes:>

> Hi,

>

> I too have been taking threelac for a week now - one a day - cut down

> completely on sugars and eat less of carbs- its a very tough diet for me - a

> student -- I loved shortcuts like bread...

>

> I feel jealous when I read about die-off. I feel no different. Just v.

> slightly low in energy and v. slightly depressed for one day - but that

could have

> been due to anything.

>

> I also have raw garlic and eat a lot of coconut based curries.

>

> There is a refund on the product so am going to try for another two weeks at

> least.

>

> Ciao,

> Cleona

>

>

> Time is not a line, but a series of now points.

> - Taisen Deshimaru

[Guest guest]

Marni-

Check out the " files " section of this group, and in the files section,

the success stories. unless you have a very mild case, most products

really won't do much other than hide symptoms.

in my opinion as someone who got his overgrowth back into a normal

healthy balence, such products are not the answer in most cases.

cleansing and diet changes may seem like more work, but they bring

great benefits and a real cure (and don't cost much of anything). you

can read a little about cleansing at www.curezone.com (liver flush

faq, kidney cleanse, colon cleanse) or ask other people about it. the

success stories are good examples of cleansing...

I think three lac does have some cleansing properties (castor oil with

a strong probiotic) but there are much cheaper and more beneficial

methods out there.

g

> can anyone tell me what product brand of threelac I should take?

> And should I take inulin with it?

[Guest guest]

That's another symptom I've been having for a while. I've been having

back pains, often severe, for a couple months. It's in the center of my

back and also lower, close to the tailbone. My tailbone often seems to

have some swelling around it.

Constipation for me seems to be connected to die-off. It was REALLY bad

at first but then I cut back on the antifungal thngs and my BM's returned

to fairly normal for a while. Then recently I used some GSE for a while,

then oregano oil, and now SF722. I've gotten the constipation back along

with other symptoms of die-off.

I used Candex for a while back in May and June and didn't have the

constipation so bad with it. I may try that again.

Zack

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Tina Stacey wrote:

> Thanks for responding Bee. I have about 400 e mails to go through!

> Going to go buy a good chair today because my back is killing me! What

> are some things I should watch out for while using Threelac? I am

> finishing my first can of 60 packets now. If I don't take it, I seem to

> nearly instantly start feeling worse. I can barely have a BM without

> it.

>

> I have constant BM problems and am seeking help from a VA Doctor who

> just keeps telling me my problems are all probably from scar tissue.

> The last time he told me that, I ended up in emergency surgery for a

> ruptured ovary. I think the guy is a quack. I have requested a new

> Doctor but that take a few months through the VA. Thanks for your help.

> I have two small children and making all of the special foods seems

> nearly impossible. I'm lucky to get a shower! Sincerely, Tina

>

[Guest guest]

Have hot heard any bad results using threelac ( apart from die off, herx)only

that some people say it did not works for them but may be they where not

taking it long enough and they may have other health problems as well which

mimic candida.

>

>

> Has anyone experienced bad results in using Threelac?

[Guest guest]

Tried it twice, and to this day I'm not sure it really did anything... The last

time i took 4 packets a day... nyah, go figure.

-rasdasa

ThreeLac

Has anyone tried ThreeLac? My husband doesn't seem to have any

symptoms of yeast, but we figure that he has it since I do. We were

thinking of trying ThreeLac for him. Any opinions on this product?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

>

> You've probably discussed ThreeLac before, but I can't find the

> thread. So, sorry if I'm repeating something, but does anyone

> recommend ThreeLac? > Helena

Dear Helena,

I don't recommend it. There are better less expensive antifungals,

i.e. coconut oil, garlic, pau d'arco, oil of oregano, etc. They make

wild marketing claims that you can take it and not have to diet,

which is totally false.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Helena. I'm currently using Threelac. I'm seeing some benefit

from it, but it is not as dramatic as the ads claim. You will

absolutely NEED to follow the Candida Diet even if you use Threelac.

I'm also taking three cloves of garlic, one garlic pill, two vitamin

C tablets and oil of oregano in my regimen along with the Candida

Diet. I mix them up a bit but Threelac and vitamin C and garlic of

some sort every day.

So, it's claims of a cure might not be accurate, but I do see some

benefit. My best results have been from reading Bee's files though.

Hope this helps

> You've probably discussed ThreeLac before, but I can't find the

> thread. So, sorry if I'm repeating something, but does anyone

> recommend ThreeLac?

>

> Helena

[Guest guest]

Just out of curiousity have you had you gall bladder removed?

yourreeka <yourreeka@...> wrote:I have battled with candida for 10 years.

I have had chronic diarrhea

for that long too. I developed Guillain Barre sydrome, which is a

auto-immune disease. I have recovered, but have battled with diarrhea

ever since. I got off all dairy, and I try to stay on a candida diet,

but I would be lying if I didn't say that I do cheat sometimes. I am

testing threelac product because of the results of testimonies that I

have read. I completed one box of the product. I didn't notice any

change in my system, except my fingernails have really gotten stronger

and they have been brittle in the past. My PH is usually about 5.0,

which is too acidic, and while taking the threelac, it did move up to

6.0 several times as I tested my PH daily. I know there isn't a quick

fix, but I have spent so much money on products that don't work. I

wondered if anyone else has tried the product and did they find any

results.

[Guest guest]

,

Why are you asking " yourreeka " if she's had her gallbladder out? I've

had mine taken out and I'm curious to see where you are going with this

question.

Constance

I have battled with candida for 10

years. I have had chronic diarrhea

> for that long too.

[Guest guest]

Bee may respond to this too, but Threelac is terribly expensive and

terribly overmarketed. It promises a quick cure for candida and neglects

the diet entirely. There is no quick remedy and the diet is actually the

most important part.

See the file in the files section called " ThreeLac is Not

Recommended.htm " .

Zack

On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, yourreeka wrote:

> I am

> testing threelac product because of the results of testimonies that I

> have read. I completed one box of the product. I didn't notice any

> change in my system, except my fingernails have really gotten stronger

> and they have been brittle in the past. My PH is usually about 5.0,

> which is too acidic, and while taking the threelac, it did move up to

> 6.0 several times as I tested my PH daily. I know there isn't a quick

> fix, but I have spent so much money on products that don't work. I

> wondered if anyone else has tried the product and did they find any

> results.

>

[Guest guest]

I have several friends that had there gallbladder removed and since had terrible

diarrhea.

purpleloveraquar <purpleloveraquar@...> wrote:

,

Why are you asking " yourreeka " if she's had her gallbladder out? I've

had mine taken out and I'm curious to see where you are going with this

question.

Constance

I have battled with candida for 10

years. I have had chronic diarrhea

> for that long too.

[Guest guest]

yourreeka wrote:

>

> I have battled with candida for 10 years. I have had chronic

diarrhea for that long too. I developed Guillain Barre sydrome,

which is a auto-immune disease. I have recovered, but have battled

with diarrhea ever since. I got off all dairy, and I try to stay on

a candida diet, but I would be lying if I didn't say that I do cheat

sometimes. I am testing threelac product because of the results of

testimonies that I have read.

==>I agree with Zack that ThreeLac is overmarketed making wild claims

that you can cure candida with it without doing the diet, and it also

contains castor oil which is a purgative (causes the bowels to

evacuate). I've written the reasons it shouldn't be used in our

files.

>My PH is usually about 5.0, which is too acidic, and while taking

the threelac, it did move up to 6.0 several times as I tested my PH

daily. I know there isn't a quick fix, but I have spent so much money

on products that don't work. I wondered if anyone else has tried the

product and did they find any results.

==>You really shouldn't be concerned about your pH levels - it is a

non-issue which the body regulates at different levels throughout the

body on its own. See the " Acidity/Alkalinity " article in our files

by Dr. Weston A. Price.

==>It would be good for you to read my article " How to Successfully

Overcome Candida " , esp. for the diet which is very different from

others. You would help your health a lot by tweaking your diet

accordingly. After you've read the articles in our files, esp. the

Digestion Folder, please get back to us.

The best in health,

Bee

>

[Guest guest]

You don't need you gallbladder out to get chronic diarrhea. I had it 5

days out of the week and I still have mine. It's your intestines saying

that they are in distress(dysbiosis). Work on your colon health and you

will be delightfully surprised, as well as relieved.

Ken

-- Re: [ ] Re: threelac

I have several friends that had there gallbladder removed and since had

terrible diarrhea.

[Guest guest]

Threelac's makers do not neglect the diet entirely. They claim that you

don't need a specific diet, but they do recommend following a sensible diet

that is low in sugars of any kind. This, of course, is common sense and

should be followed by anyone, with or without candida.

I used one box of it in my recovery and I noticed that it did help

restore health in my intestines and digestive system as a whole, which is a

major step in candida recovery. Please note that Threelac is by no means a

panacea and you should adjust your recovery plan to fit your needs as we are

all different, and as the saying goes... " different strokes for different

folks. "

Ken

-- Re: [ ] threelac

Bee may respond to this too, but Threelac is terribly expensive and

terribly overmarketed. It promises a quick cure for candida and neglects

the diet entirely. There is no quick remedy and the diet is actually the

most important part.

See the file in the files section called " ThreeLac is Not

Recommended.htm " .

Zack

[Guest guest]

Oops sorry, but it might be an idea for someone.

Ken <crapmail@...> wrote:

You don't need you gallbladder out to get chronic diarrhea. I had it 5

days out of the week and I still have mine. It's your intestines saying

that they are in distress(dysbiosis). Work on your colon health and you

will be delightfully surprised, as well as relieved.

Ken

[Guest guest]

Bee, where in the files is the info on Threelac? --Judy

[Guest guest]

I had the chronic diarrhea for YEARS prior to having my gallbladder

taken out. I can only assume that I've had systemic candida for

most of my life but it truly got out of hand when I started eating

what I wanted as a late teen and early 20's person, instead of what

my family was eating. And now many years later I am still suffering

since my eating habits have become so much worse!

Constance

> ,

>

> Why are you asking " yourreeka " if she's had her gallbladder out?

I've

> had mine taken out and I'm curious to see where you are going with

this

> question.

>

> Constance

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Bee, where in the files is the info on Threelac? --Judy

Hi Judy,

It's in the file entitled " Threelac is not Recommended. "

here's a direct link.

http://f4.grp.fs.com/v1/YFFWQ-N094ZJ_3f_AZSebdII8mccOTSlhngLYpM1E7zELc36NnB\

4gTcnsCyEZMSZ-Z5IIO2lDrwdN2jS9dSIPyq4cYiL7JBbPSQ/ThreeLac%20is%20Not%20Recommend\

ed.htm

jackie

[Guest guest]

>

> yes, I've heard of Threelac. I'm taking it actually. While Bee (our

> dear Group Leader) does not recommend it--her reasons why are

> contained in an article in the files, I decided to give it a try a

> month and a half ago and am finding it to be beneficial for me.

> Please keep in mind that I am also following Bee's diet, taking raw

> garlic, the lemon/sea salt drink and various vitamin supplements. I

> agree with Bee that the diet is crucial to getting rid of Candida

> overgrowth....so it's best to start there and then build on it.

>

> jackie

>

I am going to try Threelac, the same as you, sticking to the diet, etc.

- T

[Guest guest]

>

> I am going to try Threelac, the same as you, sticking to the diet, etc.

>

> - T

>

I hope you'll let us know how it works for you, Tamara.

jackie

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Ok, I'm assuming here that you have problems chewing when you refer

to dental problems. If that is the case, then it seems that you

could eat anything that could be processed in a blender or food

grinder. It would be better to let a machine chew your food for you

than to eat carbs that feed candida. Even most carb foods require

chewing. I'm not sure how you prepare your eggs, but if you don't

like them plain, then you can add spices that don't add carbs but

add flavor (cayenne, cumin, coriander, etc.). You can also swallow

your eggs raw, or try Bee's egg drink.

I sense a resistance to change here and I understand completely, but

instead of excuses, you need to figure out how to fix some foods

that are on the diet. Fish is very easy to chew, and ground meat

could be crumbled very small or run through a processor. We do this

for babies and also for older adults as well. Raw veggies can be

blended together, and cooked veggies can be quite soft (or run

through a grinder).

I apologize if I'm misunderstanding your problem, but I also tried

Three-Lac, and I don't believe it will cure your problem without

complete dietary change. This can be very difficult with the brain

fog, but take it one step at a time. Take out one bad food and add

in one good food each day. Keep a list of foods that you try that

work for you and keep your fridge and freezer stocked with the right

foods. If you eat according to Bee's diet, you could potentially

help your dental problems as well (check out the work of Weston

Price).

In order to heal, you need to nourish your body and a bunch of

supplements is not necessarily the best solution. Maybe the first

step you could take is to get some coconut oil and start putting it

in your tea. Substitute this for a carb serving each time you do

it. You will get energy and actually start killing candida rather

than just feeding it.

Ok, I've said enough. I wish you the best...

Jan

>

The

> diet is impossible for me because of really bad dental problems,

and I'm

> not in good enough physical condition to undergo the needed

surgery at

> this point. Except for eggs, everything I am able to eat (mostly

carbs)

> is on the " you can't have it " list. Even what I add to the eggs

(they

> are not very good plain) is on that list also. I am between a

rock and

> a hard place on what to do. I'm already taking a bunch of

supplements

> to help compensate for what I can't eat.

>

> In searching, we found ThreeLac which doesn't require a diet

change

> (other than reducing refined sugar, and I don't add sugar to

anything -

> haven't for a long, long time).

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi -

>

> I am new to this group, my name is , and this is my first post.

==>Hi . Welcome to our group my friend. You've come to the

right place!

> I saw a holistic MD on May 2nd. He felt I do indeed have

hypothyroidism but now as 's Temperature Syndrome (actually I

was first dx with hypo in 1962 but have fallen through the cracks

since early 1970s when test was changed from PBI to T4 and TSH). Doc

also thought I have candidiasis and possibly heavy metal problems.

He ran tests for all plus an EKG. I will find out the results on May

16th at my next appointment. I have sooooo many symptoms, but I am

learning many of the overwhelmingly debilitating hypo symptoms are

also candida symptoms ... it's confusing to know what's what.

==>There are numerous symptoms caused by candida. Please be

cautioned that removing mercury fillings isn't always necessary and

can cause more symptoms. My diet does chelate out heavy metals very

efficiently, esp. the " good " fats like coconut oil, butter, lard,

etc. I didn't get my mercury fillings removed when I had candida

because I couldn't afford it and I still cured my candida - see Bee's

Personal Candida Story in the files (after all of the folders).

==>Also, candida toxins cause all of the body's cells to go rigid so

that nutrients, hormones, etc. cannot get into the cell where they

are needed, which affects the functioning of the liver, adrenals,

thyroid, etc. I believe I lost my thyroid due to too much tampering

with iodine and dessicated thyroid while I had candida. The main

focus should be on curing candida, which is the cause of thyroid

problems, rather than trying to treat the thyroid directly.

>

> In the meantime, since the doctor was pretty convinced on the

candida issue, my husband and I have been researching how to handle

this. The diet is impossible for me because of really bad dental

problems, and I'm not in good enough physical condition to undergo

the needed surgery at this point.

==>What kind of surgery is recommended?

> Except for eggs, everything I am able to eat (mostly carbs)

> is on the " you can't have it " list. Even what I add to the eggs

(they are not very good plain) is on that list also. I am between a

rock and a hard place on what to do. I'm already taking a bunch of

supplements to help compensate for what I can't eat.

==>Jan and S gave you some excellent advice about eating foods that

are pureed or blended. It is much easier for your body to

digest " real " foods, especially meats, eggs and " good " fats than any

carbs, even veggies, or supplements. For example, you get all of the

amino acids your body requires from eggs - see Bee's Raw Egg Drink in

the recipe folder.

>

> In searching, we found ThreeLac which doesn't require a diet change

> (other than reducing refined sugar, and I don't add sugar to

anything - haven't for a long, long time). ThreeLac is in powder

form as opposed to tab or cap, the latter two are very hard for me

to swallow. Has anyone tried ThreeLac?

> http://www.stopyeast.com

> We ordered ThreeLac on Friday and it arrived in yesterday afternoon

> mail. I have a bit more reading/re-reading to do (brain fog is

bad, and instructions for ThreeLac are somewhat complex) before I

try it probably later today. ThreeLac is not purported to be an

instant miracle cure, but is said to be effective over the long term.

==>ThreeLac is not recommended - see the article in the files. Their

advertising is totally false, i.e. that you can take it without doing

the diet as many of our members have found out. If you do decide to

take it, start on the diet first, and once you have gotten through

most of the die-off then try it. Do not take it before doing the

diet. There are no quick fixes my friend. Natural healing take

time, patience and giving your body what it needs to do its job of

healing and keeping you healthy.

The best in health,

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Dirk,

welcome! The main concern with ThreeLac is it's price and that it is

advertised as working without any dietary changes. Many people are

looking for a " quick fix " and they think ThreeLac will do that. Well,

we all know that's not really going to happen. It takes time and

diligence to get this thing under control. Yes, ThreeLac can help but

it is also possible to cure a candida overgrowth with diet alone.

There are people on this board who do use ThreeLac...if you're one of

htose people and it works for you, great! But it's not the be all end

all that it is advertised to be. People who find their way here are

usually in such a debilitated state that they need serious help...more

than what ThreeLac can create on it's own.

The information you will find here is so much more thorough than you

will get anywhere else. By following Bee's protocol anyone can cure

their candida overgrowth and go on to achieve true wellness.

jackie

>

> I have noticed some anti-Threelac literature on the website. Do you guys

> believe it's a waste of money? I realise it's expensive (quite

overpriced),

> but I do believe it is quite a good supp. Sure, it's not going to cure

> Candida without watching diet, but I think it's good nonetheless.

[Guest guest]

>

> I have noticed some anti-Threelac literature on the website. Do you

guys believe it's a waste of money? I realise it's expensive (quite

overpriced), but I do believe it is quite a good supp. Sure, it's not

going to cure Candida without watching diet, but I think it's good

nonetheless.

==>Some people have done okay on Threelac, but most consider it a waste

of money when there are so many better more natural products to use,

per my Main Article. If you're keen on getting it, do let us know how

you do.

Bee