Threelac

[Guest guest]

> Anyone ever tried Threelac for treating candida? Or

> know of someone

Nick,

I was on threelac for 6 months and didnt do very well

on it. I had die off most of the time and had to

adjust the amounts i took because the more you take

the more dieoff i had.

My husband has been on it for one year and did

wonderful. He had very little die off and it

regulated his bowel movements like a clock. He just

went off last week because he ran out. We are now

trying it to see how he does without it.

SO here is how it affected two people differently.

sue

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[Guest guest]

Here is my OPINION on three lac. It is fairly expensive and somewhat

addictive to people with yeast because you put it directly into your

mouth dry and it tastes good. I THINK after trying it for three months

it is an expensive addiction that does nothing much to kill the yeast.

I never noticed any difference and I personally think you would be

better off just buying a very good bacteria combo elsewhere and take

five billion per day.

Cheaper and better in my " opinion " .

Steph

[Guest guest]

i tired it and it gave me a joint pain flare so i sent it back for a

refund. the good thing about threelac is you can get a refund of it

doesn't help you. i also was suspicious of its ingreds because it tasted

like lemon meringue pie. seriously...

monique

[Guest guest]

what have you noticed with it bobcat?

[Guest guest]

I would disagree with a few things you are saying here. First of all,

if you get " addicted " to the one gram of sugar per packet of threelac,

you probably aren't very good at keeping on a strict diet in the first

place so there are other problems that must be dealt with first.

Secondly, other probiotics are not offensive enough to candida. They

fill areas where candida have been killed off, but they do not

actually " feed " on candida to kill it as threelac is supposedly doing

with it's spore forming bacteria.

I began on threelac, stopped for about 4 monthes and tried high doses

of olive leaf extract, pau' d'arco, oil of oregano, allimax, VCO, and

other probiotics. I found I got the most " die off " with threelac. So

where alot of people say it does not sit well with them and makes them

feel worse, well in my opinion I rather have some change than none at

all. Especially since the symptoms I get from threelac seem to be

greatly amplified and prolonged versions of the symptoms that other

antifungals give me.

I do agree that it is extremely expensive and most likely overpriced,

but I spend similar amounts of money on the combination of all these

other things. If I can get through the die-off and bring my health

back that much faster, money is a non issue anyway. Besides the money

I will save on all my other supps, I will be awake longer each day and

function on a much higher level which in turn will bring me more in

the long run, in more aspects than just financial.

Now this is a simple concept of focus on a goal and vision, but does

not speak of the efficacy of threelac. I have only taken it

consistently with proper diet for the past month. I think all the

hundreds of testimonials floating around the internet speak pretty

loudly, so a testimonial from me is not even that important. What I

really want to point out is that threelac has offensive bacteria.

Probiotics typical to the intestinal ecology are more defensive and

contributory to the proper functioning of your body. Duncan has

pointed out the bifido bacteria will regulate proper bacteria numbers,

but if your problem is great enough, as it is for most of us,

probiotics alone will not free you of what ails you.

So my point is that to most people who say threelac makes them feel

bad, I would like to ask the question " why is die-off good in some

cases, but bad in the case of threelac? " , assuming that people even

know if what is happening is die-off or not. Am I proposing you bite

the bullet and stick through the awful feeling threelac gives you to

-possibly- be saved? In a way, yes I am saying that, as unless you

have allergies to something in it, threelac has been proven safe. But

really you shouldn't have to bite the bullet that much, because you

have a great resource on this list. What am I talking about? Duncan

of course. The strategies we learn here for immune and biological

support are very powerful and should be used in any program you choose

to follow. Anyone who has tried whey and low carbing can attest that

it has improved the way they feel at least somewhat, and in many cases

largely.

So my proposal is to follow what we learn here and build up all your

defenses. Your own immune system is going to be the absolute

strongest tool in fighting any disease. You need to get serious about

this idea, and I think most of us are by now. And then try offensive

strategies from there and any " die-off " you would normally get will

surely be greatly reduced. Try other antifungals, and then try

threelac separately. See if the results they bring are really that

DIFFERENT or just of a DIFFERENT MAGNITUDE.

Again, I am not saying that threelac is the cure for everyone, I don't

even know if it is the cure for me, but how many other products have

the arsenal of miracle testimonials behind it? Forget cost, forget

how you feel right now. Those things are completely insignificant in

the bigger picture of lasting, full health. You owe it to yourself to

aim for health by rationally and intuitively finding what works for you.

greg

[Guest guest]

I agree. Ohhira is way better than normal probiotics and threelac. I have

tried all of them.

On 4/7/07, Bobcat4956@... <Bobcat4956@...> wrote:

>

> The BEST probiotic I have used is definitely Dr. Ohhira's Probiotics

> Plus.

> In a class of its own.

>

> Bill

>

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[Guest guest]

Greg, had threelac caused me to feel bad and given me some die off I

would have certainly stuck with it. The trueth is, it just did not do

anything for me in that respect. Also in addition to that, not that he

is correct of course, but who knows, the Dr. from the candida wellness

center said he did not consider some of the bacteria in three lac to be

safe. Of course he sell his own bacteria, but none the less, what he

said should be considered and checked into.

Steph

[Guest guest]

I, like many others, tried ThreeLac early on in my attempts to heal. It made me

very ill, to the point that I thought I was dying, for over a month. I am sure

it may work for others, but it definitely did not work for me!

[Guest guest]

, die off FEELS like you are dying if you have a severe case of

candida and it suddenly dies off. Maybe that is another reason they

call it die-off, because you feel like you are going to die off LOL LOL.

All kidding aside, it is sure unlikely that anyone would have any other

kind of bad reaction to good bacteria. You may need some serious

detoxing. I was in that kind of shape for along time, even an acid

stomach would put me over the edge with rapid heart beat and vomiting

because I so horribly toxic. I am not a whole less toxic now, but I

am working on it and slowely improving that particular problem. High

toxicity can really be dangerous and make you react severely to things

that normally would not bother you. Just a thought for you to

consider. Steph

[Guest guest]

>

> Why don't you recommend this product?

==>Do a site search for it on my website.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Bee has written an article on why she doesn't

recommend this product. See this page:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/mn33.php

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- " michelle.lee_83 " <michelle.lee_83@...>

wrote:

> Why don't you recommend this product?

>

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[Guest guest]

I am NOT a fan of threelac either.

One of the reasons I like Duncan's approach more than others is that he does

address toxicity issues with the whey. If you can reduce the total body

burden of toxins, candida is much easier to deal with.

Bill

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[Guest guest]

Use Caution with ThreeLac. It made me VERY ill to the point that I felt like I

was dying!

W

[Guest guest]

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bobcat4956@... wrote: I am NOT a fan of threelac either.

One of the reasons I like Duncan's approach more than others is that he does

address toxicity issues with the whey. If you can reduce the total body

burden of toxins, candida is much easier to deal with.

Bill

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[Guest guest]

Hi There!

Welcome to Bee's group! Is your name Jordan? We like to go by first names here

so we can everyone straight. It's hard to remember everyone's email address.

:-)

From your description of symptoms, it certainly sounds like you have candida to

me. Oftentimes, candida doesn't show up on medical tests because they aren't

sensitive to measure it in some cases and because everyone has a certain number

of candida in their systems which doctors tend to overlook. For this reason,

it's best to go by your symptoms.

Since you've only been on Bee's diet for one day, you shouldn't be taking any

raw garlic or probiotics yet. You wouldn't take garlic until you can

comfortably take 6 Tbsp. of coconut oil per day and probiotics will come after

that. It's really important that you follow the steps as Bee has laid them out,

otherwise you will overwhelm your body which can stop the healing the process

and you don't want that. Right now, just focus on the diet and supplements

along with coconut oil.

Make sure you read this article which explains the steps you need to follow:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

Also make sure to read this article, which will help you with getting started:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

I know it can feel like you are going crazy (anxiety, panic attacks & strange

symptoms) with candida, but just remember that it's the toxins that are making

you feel that way. It will get better as you continue on your healing journey.

For some motivation and inspiration, read the Success Stories on Bee's website:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

Take your time to read and re-read these articles. It will really help you to

know what you are doing if you understand the principles first. Once you've

read, get back to us with any questions you might have.

Hope that helps!

>

> Hey guys, I have basically self diagnosed myself with candida overgrowth. I

started the diet today and honsetly it looked my stomach or something inside me

was creeped out from the salad I made lol.

<snip>

I dont know but I would bet my car, house and other things that it is candida

fungus related. Also I have been very sensitive to cigarrete smoke( I dont

smoke) and some house cleaners. All this is sooo frustrating.....very much so,

please let me know what I should do because I am on the edge.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi, My name is Nerida and I am new to this site. It's a wonderful place for

information.

>

> I have recently found out that my 6 1/2 and 5 month old and of course me have

candida. My main concern is for my oldest, because he suffers the most. He

constantly has sinus. If he has anything with dairy or wheat or lots of sugar

or chemicals in it, then he will cough throughout the night and may develop into

asthma. He also suffers from eczema when having too much sugar. I was just

reading about THREELAC. Has any body used it with good results. I ask about

because he is already on a diet of no wheat diary or sugar, and supplements of

cod liver oil, butter, coconut oil (but not a lot), magnesium each day, without

any improvement in his sinus problems (the asthma is almost gone). I have read

the diet for young children and would like to try a few extra things with him,

but the Threelac looks good. What are people's thoughts on it? Will it just be

a band aid solution.

+++Hi Nerida. Welcome to our group. Please do not use ThreeLac - see this

article: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/mn33.php

There are no quick fixes, and it takes time for the body to heal itself

naturally the way Nature intended.

Our bodies cannot be pushed, and shouldn't be, into healing. Giving extra things

doesn't help since health is only achieved by providing out bodies with " proper

nutrients " (diet plus only the supplements recommended), and by eliminating

toxins and foods that feed candida, bacteria, etc., and by eliminating damaging

foods. In other words, " more is not better. "

Be sure you also give calcium along with magnesium since they work together, and

too much of one will deplete the other one in the body.

Sinus problems are caused by excess mucus which is one of the body's ways to

eliminate toxins.

Please ensure you read two important articles:

1) How to Successfully Overcome Candida

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

2) Curing Candida, How to Get Started

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

For encouragement and inspiration see these wonderful Success Stories by members

of this group: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

Bee,

I am breast feeding at the moment. I'm just wondering how serious I need to be.

I will be transferring everything to the baby (toxins and all). Won't that hurt

him? Have other people done this successfully without getting to sick while

doing it. I don't want to feel sick because I won't be able to look after him

properly. After reading some of the stories and how severe their healing

reactions are I'm quite concerned. Maybe if I just take all sugars from my diet

and take the supplements that will help without too reaction.

Do little children often have the severe reactions as well? Or do their bodies

react better and heal faster because they haven't lived with it for years.

Nerida

[Guest guest]

>

> Bee,

>

> I am breast feeding at the moment. I'm just wondering how serious I need to

be. I will be transferring everything to the baby (toxins and all). Won't that

hurt him?

+++Hi Nerida. It will hurt you and your baby much worse if you aren't getting

" proper nutrients " and cure your candida, since candida will continually

overgrow and put out over 79 different kinds of toxins anyway and neither of you

will have the nutrients required in order to get rid of existing toxins.

Have other people done this successfully without getting to sick while doing it.

I don't want to feel sick because I won't be able to look after him properly.

After reading some of the stories and how severe their healing reactions are I'm

quite concerned. Maybe if I just take all sugars from my diet and take the

supplements that will help without too reaction.

+++Getting die-off/healing and detoxifying reactions are unavoidable. To lessen

your reactions follow the article Curing Candida, How to Get Started, which

explains how to start on the program slowly and gradually:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

+++If you only go off sugars and take the supplements it won't help you since

you must also get rid of grains, bad oils and fats, processed foods, toxins,

etc., etc. and eat the foods that build up your immune system.

+++Candida, and other health problems, are only cured by building up the immune

system, which is done by:

1) Consuming " proper nutrients " (diet plus supplements),

2) Eliminating toxins and foods that feed candida (they also feed bacteria and

cancer),

3) Eliminating damaging foods, and

4) Eliminating toxins in general.

>

> Do little children often have the severe reactions as well? Or do their

bodies react better and heal faster because they haven't lived with it for

years.

+++Most children will get rashes, diarrhea, and other evidence of

die-off/detoxifying reactions. Yes, they do heal faster because they haven't

lived as long. Healing starts once you are completely on the entire program.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

hi nerida,

i have tried the treelac & i think it helps but i had some severe die off with

it but i think i was taking to much from  the start. Now i  realize being on

bee's diet & Supplements need to be part of the program to starve the yeast &

build up the immune system.

 

april

Hi, My name is Nerida and I am new to this site. It's a wonderful place for

information.

I have recently found out that my 6 1/2 and 5 month old and of course me have

candida. My main concern is for my oldest, because he suffers the most. He

constantly has sinus. If he has anything with dairy or wheat or lots of sugar or

chemicals in it, then he will cough throughout the night and may develop into

asthma. He also suffers from eczema when having too much sugar. I was just

reading about THREELAC. Has any body used it with good results. I ask about

because he is already on a diet of no wheat diary or sugar, and supplements of

cod liver oil, butter, coconut oil (but not a lot), magnesium each day, without

any improvement in his sinus problems (the asthma is almost gone). I have read

the diet for young children and would like to try a few extra things with him,

but the Threelac looks good. What are people's thoughts on it? Will it just be a

band aid solution.

Nerida

[Guest guest]

I have tried Threelac. It did something positive for me in the beginning.

It normalized the appearance of bowel movements, making them formed, solid,

and even floating (which is supposed to be ideal, from my understanding).

However, with further use, it seemed to lose its effectiveness -- at least

for me.

I wouldn't say it is a product completely without merit. We're all so

different, so it may be helpful to you. It's a bit pricey, however, so search

Amazon or other similar sites to get the best price, if you decide to try it.

[Guest guest]

Hi Doug,

My diet if fairly good, but the reason I use the word " fairly " is because I

have personally found it impossible to remain on a strict anti-Candida

diet. One of the reasons (and there are a few) is that I was losing far too

much weight. I'm 5'8 " and 145 to begin with, which is pretty lean for a guy --

but after 3 weeks on a strict carb-free Candida diet, I lost 22 pounds!

Over a pound a day! I assume a lot of the was water-weight, but I have an

extremely fast metabolism (thyroid issue?) in general, so it's hard for me to

maintain a decent body weight even when not on the Candida diet. But when I

dropped down to 123 lbs., I both looked -- and felt -- horrible, and I

didn't know how much more weight I would lose if I didn't stop.

How is your diet, Doug? And this is a great topic for the group as a

whole, if anyone else would like to respond.

[Guest guest]

Thanks , if its effect did not last that does not sound effective. I think

in addition I need to remove one food a week. How is your diet ? Doug

From: Paspenc5@... <Paspenc5@...>

Subject: Re: threelac

candidiasis

Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 8:42 PM

 

I have tried Threelac. It did something positive for me in

the beginning.

It normalized the appearance of bowel movements, making them formed, solid,

and even floating (which is supposed to be ideal, from my understanding) .

However, with further use, it seemed to lose its effectiveness -- at least

for me.

I wouldn't say it is a product completely without merit. We're all so

different, so it may be helpful to you. It's a bit pricey, however, so search

Amazon or other similar sites to get the best price, if you decide to try it.

[Guest guest]

douglas richey wrote:

> Thanks , if its effect did not last that does not sound effective.

My two cents, nothing will control candida in a lasting way until the

underlying causes for the overgrowth are eliminated, that usually means

diet, balancing the hormones and so forth.

sol

[Guest guest]

>

> I have come across a product named Threelac in my searching. It claims to be

effective, but I think it's a kind of probiotic, which Bee says is not useful.

THoughts?

>

+++Hi ,

May we ask that you do a Search on my website or the messages on this group

before asking questions? Thanks a bunch!

No, Threelac is not recommended - see this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/mn33.php

Cheers, Bee

[Guest guest]

Oops -- I forgot to search first.  My apologies.

+++Hi ,

May we ask that you do a Search on my website or the messages on this group

before asking questions? Thanks a bunch!

No, Threelac is not recommended - see this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/mn33.php

Cheers, Bee