new hair test results uploaded

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Our son, who seems to have just come down with something and/or had a bad

reaction to sulfur food, and/or phenol food, and/or DMSA, has what I *think*

look like utterly normal hair results. As far as I can tell (caveat: my

arithmetic is *not* reliable these days), he meets none of the five counting

rules. Of the five ranges reported, Na/K is on the low side of normal and Zn/Cu

is on the high side of normal; is either of these significant?

I uploaded the scanned file to the HairTests directory as " 3y10mo vegan

boy.jpg " . Have I missed anything?

Thank you,

P.S. We have decided to abort the round due to whatever is going on with him, as

he seems suddenly very unwell with fever. We gave about 2.1mg DMSA every two

hours starting yesterday at 2:00PM, and every four hours at night starting at

8:00PM (resuming every two hours at 8:00AM), with a slightly botched

administration at 12:00AM this morning (perhaps a half or two-thirds the dose

because of that) but otherwise nothing unusual about the administration.

[Guest guest]

>

> Our son, who seems to have just come down with something and/or had a bad

reaction to sulfur food, and/or phenol food, and/or DMSA, has what I *think*

look like utterly normal hair results. As far as I can tell (caveat: my

arithmetic is *not* reliable these days), he meets none of the five counting

rules. Of the five ranges reported, Na/K is on the low side of normal and Zn/Cu

is on the high side of normal; is either of these significant?

>

> I uploaded the scanned file to the HairTests directory as " 3y10mo vegan

boy.jpg " . Have I missed anything?

>

> Thank you,

>

>

> P.S. We have decided to abort the round due to whatever is going on with him,

as he seems suddenly very unwell with fever. We gave about 2.1mg DMSA every two

hours starting yesterday at 2:00PM, and every four hours at night starting at

8:00PM (resuming every two hours at 8:00AM), with a slightly botched

administration at 12:00AM this morning (perhaps a half or two-thirds the dose

because of that) but otherwise nothing unusual about the administration.

Actually the administration is VERY unusual.

You cannot vary the time between doses like that as it will cause

redistribution. Please pick a time (every 4 hours is fine) and stick with it

throughout 3 days and nights.

What supplements is he on?

The hair test does not indicate deranged mineral transport.

There seem to be adrenal issues with Ca and Mg up and Na and K down. This

indicates underproduction of adrenaline (lowish Na/Mg confirms this) and

cortisol.

Na/K below 0.5 would indicate high thyroid.

>

[Guest guest]

, thank you very much for your message. I wish I'd received it two days

ago...! Well...

> > P.S. We have decided to abort the round due to whatever is going on with

him, as he seems suddenly very unwell with fever. We gave about 2.1mg DMSA every

two hours starting yesterday at 2:00PM, and every four hours at night starting

at 8:00PM (resuming every two hours at 8:00AM), with a slightly botched

administration at 12:00AM this morning (perhaps a half or two-thirds the dose

because of that) but otherwise nothing unusual about the administration.

>

> Actually the administration is VERY unusual.

> You cannot vary the time between doses like that as it will cause

redistribution.

Damn it! :( I cannot believe I did this. I was attempting to avoid

redistribution/regression by doing very small, very frequent doses during the

day.

It seems I know just enough to be dangerous. Good God. I am shaking with worry

for son and rage at self. I think I am probably the one responsible for

mercury-poisoning my child in the first place. I took chlorella in pregnancy, if

you can believe someone would do such an idiotic thing, because I was trying to

remove any thimerosal that my fetus (now son) might be getting due to an

ill-advised mercury-containing flu shot that I accepted when said fetus was 13

weeks old in my belly. Now has a spectrum disorder, and, joy of joys, probably a

new poisoning thanks to me.

> Please pick a time (every 4 hours is fine) and stick with it throughout 3 days

and nights.

Will do in future. I read somewhere on this group someone recommending a

more-frequent-during-the-day administration, saying it was easier on their

family. (?!) That is where I got the idea that it would be okay to do every four

hours at night.

> What supplements is he on?

+ Digestive enzymes (Zand QuickDigest, 1 or more tablets before meals and on

demand)

+ Probiotics (Bio-K+ [50B organisms] and acidophilus tablets [1B organisms] on

demand)

+ Methylcobalamin B-12 (usually 3mg, spread throughout day)

+ Omega-3s (V-Pure 350mg EPA/50mg DHA in smoothies [derived from algae], in

addition to ground flax seed and chia seed that he has always liked on cereal)

+ Vitamins A, C, and E (Juice Plus Chewables, 4 red and 4 green, equivalent of

144%, 114% and 92% of the daily adult recommended amounts, respectively)

+ Glycine (500mg in nightly licorice/chamomile tea)

+ Hepata-Chord (half dropper, twice daily)

+ Taurine (500mg in nightly licorice/chamomile tea)

He didn't get the glycine or taurine tonight because he passed out before I

could give him the tea.

I assume we should give him at least four days of a break before attempting

another chelation round on a regular every-four-hours schedule, yes?

What does redistribution/regression look like? Oh, my God, I cannot believe I am

asking this question...

> There seem to be adrenal issues with Ca and Mg up and Na and K down. This

indicates underproduction of adrenaline (lowish Na/Mg confirms this) and

cortisol.

He had/has a yeast infection and/or bacterial overgrowth at the time. His system

has been overstressed.

I have to stop typing now.

Thank you,

[Guest guest]

,

You should let yourself off the hook for this one. See below...

its_the_mercury wrote:

>

>

> , thank you very much for your message. I wish I'd received it two days

ago...! Well...

>

> > > P.S. We have decided to abort the round due to whatever is going on with

him, as he seems suddenly very unwell with fever. We gave about 2.1mg DMSA every

two hours starting yesterday at 2:00PM, and every four hours at night starting

at 8:00PM (resuming every two hours at 8:00AM), with a slightly botched

administration at 12:00AM this morning (perhaps a half or two-thirds the dose

because of that) but otherwise nothing unusual about the administration.

> >

> > Actually the administration is VERY unusual.

>

>

>

> > You cannot vary the time between doses like that as it will cause

redistribution.

>

> Damn it! :( I cannot believe I did this. I was attempting to avoid

redistribution/regression by doing very small, very frequent doses during the

day.

>

> It seems I know just enough to be dangerous. Good God. I am shaking with worry

for son and rage at self. I think I am probably the one responsible for

mercury-poisoning my child in the first place. I took chlorella in pregnancy, if

you can believe someone would do such an idiotic thing, because I was trying to

remove any thimerosal that my fetus (now son) might be getting due to an

ill-advised mercury-containing flu shot that I accepted when said fetus was 13

weeks old in my belly. Now has a spectrum disorder, and, joy of joys, probably a

new poisoning thanks to me.

Probably not. I really don't think so. We're talking about _one_ instance of

redistribution, here.

>

> > Please pick a time (every 4 hours is fine) and stick with it throughout 3

days and nights.

>

> Will do in future. I read somewhere on this group someone recommending a

more-frequent-during-the-day administration, saying it was easier on their

family. (?!)

That was probably for ALA, where the required interval is 3 hours. Andy says

it's OK for _some_ to go to 4 hours at night (others don't tolerate it). Going

from 2 to 4 is just too much... But again, you only introduced one extra

redistribution cycle. Don't worry--just concentrate on doing it right in the

future!

> That is where I got the idea that it would be okay to do every four hours at

night.

>

> > What supplements is he on?

>

> + Digestive enzymes (Zand QuickDigest, 1 or more tablets before meals and on

demand)

> + Probiotics (Bio-K+ [50B organisms] and acidophilus tablets [1B organisms] on

demand)

> + Methylcobalamin B-12 (usually 3mg, spread throughout day)

> + Omega-3s (V-Pure 350mg EPA/50mg DHA in smoothies [derived from algae], in

addition to ground flax seed and chia seed that he has always liked on cereal)

> + Vitamins A, C, and E (Juice Plus Chewables, 4 red and 4 green, equivalent of

144%, 114% and 92% of the daily adult recommended amounts, respectively)

With chelation he should get a lot more C, E, and extra magnesium and zinc, or

it's going to be miserable.

> + Glycine (500mg in nightly licorice/chamomile tea)

> + Hepata-Chord (half dropper, twice daily)

> + Taurine (500mg in nightly licorice/chamomile tea)

>

> He didn't get the glycine or taurine tonight because he passed out before I

could give him the tea.

>

> I assume we should give him at least four days of a break before attempting

another chelation round on a regular every-four-hours schedule, yes?

If you stop a round, start the next one at the next scheduled time. So if you

were going to do 3 days on/4 days off, wait a week....

>

> What does redistribution/regression look like? Oh, my God, I cannot believe I

am asking this question...

Redistribution is _not_ regression! It actually happens every time you finish a

chelation round and is what causes post-round symptoms. So the symptoms might be

twice as bad here.

It's the ongoing, repeated redistribution due to continuously chelating

improperly that causes harm. Please give yourself a pass on this one.

>

> > There seem to be adrenal issues with Ca and Mg up and Na and K down. This

indicates underproduction of adrenaline (lowish Na/Mg confirms this) and

cortisol.

>

> He had/has a yeast infection and/or bacterial overgrowth at the time. His

system has been overstressed.

>

> I have to stop typing now.

>

> Thank you,

>

>

> __

[Guest guest]

,

Thank you very much for your reassuring message! I'm very glad to have received

it. I will be able to sleep, now. I will share it with my husband, too.

We just had a terrifying half hour where our son, feverish, started to

hallucinate, having both visual and auditory disturbances, screaming over and

over that he wanted to " go outside " (it's the middle of the night) and didn't

want to " make that noise. " Of course his rantings woke his little sister who

started crying too. My husband had the presence of mind to put son in the shower

to cool him down and sing to him. Now they're watching airplane videos and

chatting and son seems himself. I am much relieved.

From now on, DMSA will go every 4 hours on the dot for three days, then four

days off. We started Thursday so we'll start the next round this coming

Thursday. I hope son won't protest. Will cross that bridge when we get there...

Thanks again,

[Guest guest]

Okay, BREATHE! Most of us who have done the Cutler protocol do 3 hours during

the day and 4 hours at night WHEN THE ALA IS ADDED IN. Otherwise we do every

four hours round the clock when it is just the DMSA. The reason for the change

is that ALA has a shorter half-life and needs to be administered more

frequently, BUT a slower metabolism at night allows for a little longer time

(and more sleep!)

Barb

[ ] Re: new hair test results uploaded

, thank you very much for your message. I wish I'd received it two days

ago...! Well...

> > P.S. We have decided to abort the round due to whatever is going on with

him, as he seems suddenly very unwell with fever. We gave about 2.1mg DMSA every

two hours starting yesterday at 2:00PM, and every four hours at night starting

at 8:00PM (resuming every two hours at 8:00AM), with a slightly botched

administration at 12:00AM this morning (perhaps a half or two-thirds the dose

because of that) but otherwise nothing unusual about the administration.

>

> Actually the administration is VERY unusual.

> You cannot vary the time between doses like that as it will cause

redistribution.

Damn it! :( I cannot believe I did this. I was attempting to avoid

redistribution/regression by doing very small, very frequent doses during the

day.

It seems I know just enough to be dangerous. Good God. I am shaking with worry

for son and rage at self. I think I am probably the one responsible for

mercury-poisoning my child in the first place. I took chlorella in pregnancy, if

you can believe someone would do such an idiotic thing, because I was trying to

remove any thimerosal that my fetus (now son) might be getting due to an

ill-advised mercury-containing flu shot that I accepted when said fetus was 13

weeks old in my belly. Now has a spectrum disorder, and, joy of joys, probably a

new poisoning thanks to me.

> Please pick a time (every 4 hours is fine) and stick with it throughout 3

days and nights.

Will do in future. I read somewhere on this group someone recommending a

more-frequent-during-the-day administration, saying it was easier on their

family. (?!) That is where I got the idea that it would be okay to do every four

hours at night.

> What supplements is he on?

+ Digestive enzymes (Zand QuickDigest, 1 or more tablets before meals and on

demand)

+ Probiotics (Bio-K+ [50B organisms] and acidophilus tablets [1B organisms] on

demand)

+ Methylcobalamin B-12 (usually 3mg, spread throughout day)

+ Omega-3s (V-Pure 350mg EPA/50mg DHA in smoothies [derived from algae], in

addition to ground flax seed and chia seed that he has always liked on cereal)

+ Vitamins A, C, and E (Juice Plus Chewables, 4 red and 4 green, equivalent of

144%, 114% and 92% of the daily adult recommended amounts, respectively)

+ Glycine (500mg in nightly licorice/chamomile tea)

+ Hepata-Chord (half dropper, twice daily)

+ Taurine (500mg in nightly licorice/chamomile tea)

He didn't get the glycine or taurine tonight because he passed out before I

could give him the tea.

I assume we should give him at least four days of a break before attempting

another chelation round on a regular every-four-hours schedule, yes?

What does redistribution/regression look like? Oh, my God, I cannot believe I

am asking this question...

> There seem to be adrenal issues with Ca and Mg up and Na and K down. This

indicates underproduction of adrenaline (lowish Na/Mg confirms this) and

cortisol.

He had/has a yeast infection and/or bacterial overgrowth at the time. His

system has been overstressed.

I have to stop typing now.

Thank you,