Re: Meningitis vaccine - to get or not to get - that is the question

[Guest guest]

No way in hell I'd get it.

>

> My typical daughter is heading off to college in the fall and in order to live

on campus, she has to either take a religious exemption or receive the

meningitis vaccine. I asked her doctor to check her titres, but apparently

there is not a titre test for meningitis. I have been searching for side

effects and ingredients but I am still not sure which direction to go with her.

My husband keeps pointing out that if there is an outbreak, she won't be able to

live on campus during that time. Anyone have any experience with the meningitis

vaccine and reactions?

>

> Thanks for any input.

> -

>

[Guest guest]

why should something like a meningitis outbreak happen???  l don`t think the

probabilities are statistically important as to let her take that risk.  l

don`t trust vaccines anymore, of any kind, for people of any age.  my beloved

mother received hep C immunizations when she was 59 yo.  months later, she

developed strange rashes in the body, strange neurological symptoms and started

to suffer anxiety and panick attacks, the downwards spiral started without mercy

and 8 months later she was diagnosed with ALS.  she died a horrible death,

after 3 years of suffering non-stop degeneration.  l am not 100 certain if the

vax was the only cause, but l am certain it did play an important role in

triggering the I.System chaos and systemic toxicity.

 

 let her know about the pros and cons and allow her to be part of the decision

too, she is an adult and will have to ponder both sides.

blessings,

lsa 

--- El vie 4-jun-10, Liz <elizabethsoliday@...> escribió:

De: Liz <elizabethsoliday@...>

Asunto: [ ] Re: Meningitis vaccine - to get or not to get - that is

the question

A:

Fecha: viernes, 4 de junio de 2010, 23:30

 

No way in hell I'd get it.

>

> My typical daughter is heading off to college in the fall and in order to live

on campus, she has to either take a religious exemption or receive the

meningitis vaccine. I asked her doctor to check her titres, but apparently there

is not a titre test for meningitis. I have been searching for side effects and

ingredients but I am still not sure which direction to go with her. My husband

keeps pointing out that if there is an outbreak, she won't be able to live on

campus during that time. Anyone have any experience with the meningitis vaccine

and reactions?

>

> Thanks for any input.

> -

>

[Guest guest]

According to research done by Gilmore in New York, relying mostly

on the Menactra website, IAC website and spot checks of state DOH

websites, there are 8 states that require meningitis vaccine to go to

college, all include personal choice waivers except NJ and CT. Most of

the rest of the states require educational materials given to students

on risk/benefit, 11 states have no requirement of any kind. Texas just

introduced a seventh grade mandate, but they are a philosophical

exemption state so anyone can opt out. NY does not have philosophical

exemption.

Here is some information on risk/benefit/cost on meningitis vaccine

excerpted from a SafeMinds letter to New York State opposing mandates

for 7th grade meningitis vaccination.

Vaccination decisions should be made by weighing the risks and benefits

of vaccination for a particular disease for an individual in relation to

the needs of society. The annual incidence for Meningococcal disease is

0.8 cases per 100,000 (MMWR). Meningococcal disease is considered a

“Rare Disease” by the Office of Rare Disease (ORD) of the National

Institutes of Health (NIH). The NYS rates in 2008 for adolescents ages

10-19 for meningococcal disease ranged from 0.0 to 0.4 cases per 100,000

(NYSDOH). Given the relative rarity of the disease, the standards of

safety for this vaccine should be extremely high.

Safety studies needed to make such a determination of safety for the

meningococcal vaccines are grossly inadequate. Both licensed

meningococcal vaccines are manufactured by Sanofi-Pasteur. Neither

Menomune nor Menactra has been tested for carcinogenic or mutagenic

potential in animals, impairment of fertility or for long term health

effects beyond 6 months. Safety studies for adverse events have not

included unvaccinated or placebo-vaccinated controls. NYSDOH estimates

that meningococcal vaccines are at best only 85% effective, and are

completely ineffective against meningococcus B, which accounts for about

33% of all meningococcus infections. NYSDOH estimates that the vaccines

only immunize for 3 to 5 years.

Menactra has been reported to cause cases of Guillain Barre Syndrome. It

is based on a diphtheria toxoid and it is contraindicated for anyone

with a previous reaction to a Diphtheria vaccine or a latex allergy.

Menomune may contain 25mcg of thimerosal (a mercury-containing

preservative) which is a neurotoxin and highly allergenic. Primate

research documents that thimerosal is capable of crossing the blood

brain barrier, depositing mercury directly into the brain.

According to the package insert for Menactra, the rates of serious

adverse reactions within 6 months for adolescents and adults are 1.0%

following Menactra vaccination and 1.3% following Menomune–A/C/Y/W-135

vaccination. If 240,000 seventh graders get the shot there will probably

be 2400 serious adverse reactions every year from these vaccinations. At

$85 per vaccine and $35 for an office visit this law could cost upwards

of $28,000,000 per year, plus the costs associated with these adverse

reactions.

On 6/4/10 3:13 PM, stacylynncollins@... wrote:

>

> My typical daughter is heading off to college in the fall and in order

> to live on campus, she has to either take a religious exemption or

> receive the meningitis vaccine. I asked her doctor to check her

> titres, but apparently there is not a titre test for meningitis. I

> have been searching for side effects and ingredients but I am still

> not sure which direction to go with her. My husband keeps pointing out

> that if there is an outbreak, she won't be able to live on campus

> during that time. Anyone have any experience with the meningitis

> vaccine and reactions?

>

> Thanks for any input.

> -

>

[Guest guest]

No. Although this a personal choice. Meningitis is treatable. Even the fatal

kind is treatable (I am living proof of this.)

>

> My typical daughter is heading off to college in the fall and in order to live

on campus, she has to either take a religious exemption or receive the

meningitis vaccine. I asked her doctor to check her titres, but apparently

there is not a titre test for meningitis. I have been searching for side

effects and ingredients but I am still not sure which direction to go with her.

My husband keeps pointing out that if there is an outbreak, she won't be able to

live on campus during that time. Anyone have any experience with the meningitis

vaccine and reactions?

>

> Thanks for any input.

> -

>