Re: Has anybody used OSR#1. Thoughts?

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I did. but it caused me too much yeast.

as I've tried DMPS, ATTM, ALA (after OSR), I would say ALA is the one suits me

the best.

But I spoiled this by glutathione. don't really sur what's the best to do now.

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Hi Zoe,

Thank you for your msg. What dose did you try for OSR and for ALA?

In my case ALA caused lots of yeast for me. But maybe the dose was much higher.

I think that I was doing 100mg every 3 hrs.

I am not familiar with taking Glutathione, at least not directly. Coffee enemas

are supposed to help the body produce its own glutathione. OSR is supposed to

do that too and Vit C helps with that too.

O.

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Did the FDA not outlaw the purchasing of OSR1? That's proof enough that the

stuff works better than anything else.

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My son is 90% recovered due to OSR. No side effects. Still some lang

processing/attention difficulties. I have 3 more months left before I am out

Kerri

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hello o,

due to high yeast i always have although permanent treatement for this, i took

only 10mg per dose. in at least 6hrs distance. it's much milder than DMPS for my

poor liver, but the yeast is really a big headach.

100mg ALA is absolutly too much. (according to andy, 5mg to 30mg for 90 lb, my

weigh)i took only 20mg every 3 hrs and it's far enough to cause a panicing yeast

evasion.

all chelators provoke yeast,you are right.

please keep me informed of your observation if you want;

good luck

Zoe

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This is funny.

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How long did have you been treating him? And what was the dose you're using?

Thanks Kerri.

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Its supposed to be an antioxidant, but it appears to also chelates mercury:

http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/09/cti-sciences-osr1-boosts-orac-score-better-th\

an-acai-and-other-touted-foods.html

http://orbisvitae.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat & Number=45573#Post45\

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Zoe,

Have you tried to do the ALA doses closer in time? I found that even every 4

hours caused me to have bad reactions that went away when I took them every 2-3

hrs. Suggestion to try. Half the dose you are taking every 6 hrs, and take

every 3 hrs. See how you feel, but you may have to take it also at night.

O.

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hello kerri,

would you tell me what protocol you have used for yous son?

thanks,

Zoe

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Hi Zoe,

I think that your OSR protocol is actually smart. I have seen

discussions/mentions by Andy Cutler and Boyd Haley that possibly the half life

of OSR is around 6-7 hours.

In any case, when I do ALA, I have to stick to 2.5 hrs more or less, and with

OSR I feel that I can go 8 hrs without feeling bad.

I have not used DMPS. I used DMSA. I feel that dmsa is good at sticking to

the mercury, but I see two major flaws. It makes the liver work harder; the

body has to expel the DMSA, and it chelates good minerals. So, if DMPS is

anything close to DMSA (I don't know this), then OSR feels like it is working

with my body instead of against it. Makes sense?

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It seems, though, according to my own experience that it is significantly longer

than DMSA, which is longer than ALA.

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Ralitsa,

There are a few online pharmacies that sell it, still, I believe. All chelators

can be harmful unfortunately. Since you are only starting, I agree with TJ that

probably the best thing is to start with the regular chelators, until you learn

a little about how the body reacts to the chelation.

People are still learning about OSR1, and while promising, you do not want that

many variables when starting out.

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It stands for Oxidative Stress Relief. There is a group with the same

name. I suggest you checking it out.

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I believe Andy did research to figure out the half life of DMSA and ALA.

Why couldn't the same type of thing be done for OSR? A 6-8 hour chelator

would be a huge help for people who work a hectic job and have a hard time

keeping up with such frequent dosing. I notice that it's $60 for 30

pills... if you dose 3 a day times 3 days, I'm guessing that you can get 3

rounds

from it. Is that how you are dosing it (on 3 days and off 4?).

[Guest guest]

Our first and foremost thought is DO NO HARM and I can't be certain OSR will do

no harm. It may not. But there is the risk it may - kinda like vaccines that got

us into this mess. YMMV of course.

We never used DMSA and don't know enough about it to comment.

However, ALA is a known, tried and proven anti oxidant that has been used for

years and is actually beneficial for the body and chelates mercury in small

amounts over a long period of time. OTC as health food supplement

Easy decision for us. Good luck with your decision.

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Are you taking the OSR every 8 hours (3 times a day?) Because chelators

can also upset the mineral balance, I think I would opt to do 3 days on and

4 days off (esp. because there isn't a lot known about it).

I'm sticking with ALA and DMSA for now (since I have a supply here paid

for) but I've only managed to get in a few rounds a year because the frequent

dosing has been so hard for me to keep up with while teaching full-time

(and dealing with the brain fog and chronic exhaustion). I'm ready to get in

another 10 rounds for now and am eager to see more improvement with the

brain fog and exhaustion levels!

Thanks for sharing about OSR... I'm keeping it in mind and hope to read

more about it in the future. I think parents could really use a chelator

that is dosed every 6 or 8 hours instead of every 3.

Rosegvr/

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I do not know why it is so difficult to figure it out. I know that both Cutler

and Haley have thought about it and know the importance of it. so, not sure.

In my experience, I could feel the effects of going beyond 2-3 hrs with ALA, and

I don't feel much with OSR, even past 8 hrs. It is weird because it feels

really gentle. I am doing 300 mg a day, jut went up to that from 200 mg. It

feels a bit heavier than with 200 but I really do not have a basis of comparison

with to how much ALA that is equivalent.

Since I do not feel the ups and downs of it, I just take it with no off cycles.

This is how I have read people have taken it.

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> Why couldn't the same type of thing be done for OSR? A 6-8 hour chelator

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> keeping up with such frequent dosing. I notice that it's $60 for 30

> pills... if you dose 3 a day times 3 days, I'm guessing that you can get 3

rounds

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Rose,

I have used ALA and DMSA before. You should not feel fog and chronic

exhaustion. If you are, you need to do one of two things. Either reduce the

dose, or increase frequency. Most times, it is the latter. If you keep a

steady level of chelator, you will not feel those effects. Remember 3-4 hrs is

a general idea, but people have different metabolisms.

About OSR, this is one of the good things, that it does not pull good minerals

like dmsa does with Zinc. In that sense, it is more like ALA. With ALA you

should still supplement minerals because we want the mineral receptors to be

filled with minerals and not with mercury. The body does not want to let the

mercury go until there are enough minerals. Yes, I am doing so every 8 hrs. I

do not see the need of going days off. I do plan on doing later a period off.

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> 4 days off (esp. because there isn't a lot known about it).

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> I'm sticking with ALA and DMSA for now (since I have a supply here paid

> for) but I've only managed to get in a few rounds a year because the frequent

> dosing has been so hard for me to keep up with while teaching full-time

> (and dealing with the brain fog and chronic exhaustion). I'm ready to get in

> another 10 rounds for now and am eager to see more improvement with the

> brain fog and exhaustion levels!

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> Thanks for sharing about OSR... I'm keeping it in mind and hope to read

> more about it in the future. I think parents could really use a chelator

> that is dosed every 6 or 8 hours instead of every 3.

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Thank you Mrom-

I only do a few rounds of chelation a year because of the chronic

exhaustion and brain fog. I'm actually clearer on a round than I am off round.

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go every 3 hours (even though my metabolism is sluggish as I tend to carry

weight and put on weight easily) and 4 hours a night. My biggest problem

with getting rounds in (besides forgetting when I'm busy teaching and dealing

with the needs of lots of kids) is that I don't sleep much on the 3 nights

of the round. I have tried everything but I'm so anxious about missing a

round that I don't sleep soundly or get back to sleep easily.

The OSR would be a big help but I see it's quite expensive. I believe you

said you do 300mg doses... and it's $60 for 30 pills (I'm assuming they are

probably 100mg pills) so you need 3 per dose 3 times a day which is 9 times

a round of say 3 days (27). So it's $60 a round? If you are dosing

constantly, then are you spending $120 plus a week on the stuff plus

supplements? Several hundred dollars a month would be cost prohibitive for me

but I

dream of 6-8 hour dosing.

Thanks again for your help.

Rosegvr/

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Without trying to generate a big debate, I'll say this. I used dmsa and dmsa +

ALA for a few years, and my improvement was limited. Probably close to zero.

Was I perfect?, probably no, but I did the best I could.

I started using OSR, because a friend, who is totally cured suggested it to me.

I've been on it for a month and so far, I like it a lot. I'll tell you in some

time what happens.

The concept of half-life is interesting. When in dmsa, I needed to take the

next dose every 4 hrs so that I would not get the feeling of the mercury in my

brain. With ALA, it needed to be every 2.5 hrs. I cannot explain why, but it

seems that this concept does not apply that much to OSR. It's like if the

mercury-OSR bond stays bonded even though some time has passed, so the available

released mercury is little. If I stop taking OSR, nothing at all happens. I

cannot tell you of the chemistry, but I can tell you what I feel, and I have

learned that this is the ultimate court, not Andy, not Haley, Mercola, Klinghart

or anybody else.

I only speak from my personal experience. People should choose whatever is best

for them. To me, it seems that there is more than one truth around.

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OSR is being pulled out of the market because the FDA wants to treat is as a

drug, and not a supplement.

There are a few pharmacies/dr offices that still have some of it. I bought some

from forresthealth.com. This is just one source. There may be other cheaper

out there.

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Hello O,

it seems you don't have yeast problem which is a huge advantage. how lucky you

are: you don't have to have day off.

my big headache beside chelation is the yeast.

even 10mg osr twice a day make me gut problem...

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> > Why couldn't the same type of thing be done for OSR? A 6-8 hour chelator

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> > keeping up with such frequent dosing. I notice that it's $60 for 30

> > pills... if you dose 3 a day times 3 days, I'm guessing that you can get 3

rounds

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