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The ambush was to be expected. However, I thought Wakefield acquitted himself

remarkably well in the short time he had to defend himself, his constant

reiteration of the government's settlements with parents for vax injury from the

MMR etc, and the fact that the media/pr campaign notwithstanding repeating the

same mantra about vaxes, will not erase the fact that vax injured kids with

autism exist and are not going away, nor is he. I thought he got his point

across very well. He seemed like a quiet force to be reckoned with, dignified

and sincere, no matter how Lauer and the story preceding him tried to depict him

otherwise. Although Lauer's comment asking whether he could in fact still refer

to Wakefield as " doctor " in view of his license revocation in the UK was a low

blow, hitting below the belt.

Irene

>

> Wow. I posted one time at the Today Facebook page about the Wakefield ambush @

http://www.facebook.com/todayshow?ref=ts#!/posted.php?id=12566691349 & share_id=10\

6428256070630 & comments=1#s106428256070630I & went to comment a second time & a

message appeared I was abusing the system. I guess they have my number & want

nada to do with me. I tried to post the following when I was so rudely cut off.

Could someone post it there for me, please?

>

> I bet NBC's poll for the Today show is fixed, too? It started out in the high

40's on the side of truth & has dropped like a hot potato to around 12% in just

hours.

>

>

http://community.todaymoms.com/_question/2010/05/24/4342399-do-you-think-vaccine\

s-are-related-to-autism

>

> Email the today show & show your disgust.

>

> TODAY@...

>

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Hi Marsha,

I didn't try to post your message but I did try to post mine, whether it was

accepted or not, I don't know, yet, of my *trying* to communicate is all that I

feel that really matters for as much.. .

So many people so sure one way or the other (with there being so little to be so

sure about, I'd say) without so much concern about how things affect us

" individually " (uniquely?) as if that doesn't matter so much or is not also of

the primary issue? (to justice, where there would be any justice at all, in that

respect?) is pretty disconcerting, of how the question is being framed towards

" generalities " I would have to say about as much (of politics?) as we're

typically seeing of this debate, of someone or something trying to make the

matter a black or white thing, which I absolutely am sure it is " not, " really,

and failing to accomodate the individual, with our compromised conditions and

special needs in that respect, could be considered a measure of our neglect if

not outright abuse in not being more open to as much.

It's a proven fact (contested by science if not so much by the courts) that

vaccines have negatively affected " some " (if not a small minority, as with

autism, very possibly? And who should be expendable if not murdered in that

respect, to justify murder even?) and if one looks more closely at the matter,

science is nothing better than a collection of the anecdotal (individual

situations) where being more specific would be more accurate and what " medicine "

(if not science, if not justice) should be, where it could be all that it can

be. I would say it is pretty clear that being cautious and doing " more research "

with respect to the individual and the individual situation (in question?) would

always (more logically?) be the " more reasonable " answer in that respect of the

facts as they relate to the individual, and generalities (and changing

situation) of as much.

I'm of the persuasion that the group (of science?) is only better (as good as it

can be?) where it encompasses (and accomodates) the condition " and voice " of the

" individual " (of being dedicated to as much? of the individual condition and

unique differences " of needs, " where that would mean so much to us, of us?) if

not the greater truth (The truth of understanding? of the feeling/s? of those

facts...) of as much, that my life or any life should be considered any less

significant or meaningful than that, if not of all that there is or could be,

Thereof

Heaven help us where we lose the value of the individual where that individual

may be us some day.

Glavic

I'm with you in that respect.

>

> Wow. I posted one time at the Today Facebook page about the Wakefield ambush @

http://www.facebook.com/todayshow?ref=ts#!/posted.php?id=12566691349 & share_id=10\

6428256070630 & comments=1#s106428256070630I & went to comment a second time & a

message appeared I was abusing the system. I guess they have my number & want

nada to do with me. I tried to post the following when I was so rudely cut off.

Could someone post it there for me, please?

>

> I bet NBC's poll for the Today show is fixed, too? It started out in the high

40's on the side of truth & has dropped like a hot potato to around 12% in just

hours.

>

>

http://community.todaymoms.com/_question/2010/05/24/4342399-do-you-think-vaccine\

s-are-related-to-autism

>

> Email the today show & show your disgust.

>

> TODAY@...

>

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Not so much your message but my message with respect to what I would more than

hope you're looking for us to be activists for, presented to the blog or

whatever in question, not yet posted, (cleared?) for whatever reason.. . but

good enough, (I Feel) of our trying to communicate in that respect of all that

Communication can be (my sense of It

So many people so sure one way or the other (with there being so little to be so

sure about, I'd say) without so much concern about how things affect us

" individually " (uniquely?) as if that doesn't matter so much or is not also of

the primary issue? (to justice, where there would be any justice at all, in that

respect?) is pretty disconcerting, of how the question is being framed towards

" generalities " I would have to say about as much (of politics?) as we're

typically seeing of this debate, of someone or something trying to make the

matter a black or white thing, which I absolutely am sure it is " not, " really,

and failing to accomodate the individual, with our compromised conditions and

special needs in that respect, could be considered a measure of our neglect if

not outright abuse in not being more open to as much.

It's a proven fact (contested by science if not so much by the courts) that

vaccines have negatively affected " some " (if not a small minority, as with

autism, very possibly? And who should be expendable if not murdered in that

respect, to justify murder even?) and if one looks more closely at the matter,

science is nothing better than a collection of the anecdotal (individual

situations) where being more specific would be more accurate and what " medicine "

(if not science, if not justice) should be, where it could be all that it can

be. I would say it is pretty clear that being cautious and doing " more research "

with respect to the individual and the individual situation (in question?) would

always (more logically?) be the " more reasonable " answer in that respect of the

facts as they relate to the individual, and generalities (and changing

situation) of as much.

I'm of the persuasion that the group (of science?) is only better (as good as it

can be?) where it encompasses (and accomodates) the condition " and voice " of the

" individual " (of being dedicated to as much? of the individual condition and

unique differences " of needs, " where that would mean so much to us, of us?) if

not the greater truth (The truth of understanding? of the feeling/s? of those

facts...) of as much, that my life or any life should be considered any less

significant or meaningful than that, if not of all that there is or could be,

Thereof

Heaven help us where we lose the value of the individual where that individual

may be us some day.

Glavic

I'm with you in that respect.

(My second attempt to get this message posted here)

>

> Wow. I posted one time at the Today Facebook page about the Wakefield ambush @

http://www.facebook.com/todayshow?ref=ts#!/posted.php?id=12566691349 & share_id=10\

6428256070630 & comments=1#s106428256070630I & went to comment a second time & a

message appeared I was abusing the system. I guess they have my number & want

nada to do with me. I tried to post the following when I was so rudely cut off.

Could someone post it there for me, please?

>

> I bet NBC's poll for the Today show is fixed, too? It started out in the high

40's on the side of truth & has dropped like a hot potato to around 12% in just

hours.

>

>

http://community.todaymoms.com/_question/2010/05/24/4342399-do-you-think-vaccine\

s-are-related-to-autism

>

> Email the today show & show your disgust.

>

> TODAY@...

>

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Is that interview with Lauer online anywhere?

>

> The ambush was to be expected. However, I thought Wakefield acquitted

himself remarkably well in the short time he had to defend himself, his constant

reiteration of the government's settlements with parents for vax injury from the

MMR etc, and the fact that the media/pr campaign notwithstanding repeating the

same mantra about vaxes, will not erase the fact that vax injured kids with

autism exist and are not going away, nor is he. I thought he got his point

across very well. He seemed like a quiet force to be reckoned with, dignified

and sincere, no matter how Lauer and the story preceding him tried to depict him

otherwise. Although Lauer's comment asking whether he could in fact still refer

to Wakefield as " doctor " in view of his license revocation in the UK was a low

blow, hitting below the belt.

>

> Irene

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Further to as much (My sense of It

Hello Jay, (and All (You too if not Especially, God

Something related to what you're asking and that I posted on another board of

reaching Out

That the majority view isn't that we don't really know for sure and that we

should be looking further into it, (as Wakefield was primarily doing, Hello?)

for what justice itself would entail, if not an advancing science, is an

indictment of our failed state of education, of faith, of politics or whatever

abuse you want to call it otherwise of us individuals communicating and

doing/volunteering as much, of such corruption otherwise.. .

What I wrote to the Human-ethology board that somewhat expresses my

sentiment (and intelligence? and interest, that there would be any intelligence

and truth-seeking interest at All? .. .

Excellent. Thank-you for posting me. I love our objectivity in that respect.

(Somewhat? of as much..) I shall surely now be *reading* us more, now,

Especially, of Communication and how that works.. . (of Understanding More?!.

Hello

What's communicating/trying to communicate with you?!.

BWT.

Glavic

Reaching Out. Identifying *abuse* where I find it (as I Feel it) in dealing with

It, of Feeling as understanding (That's not so much about being NICE, as we know

it, no, but for The *real* (true) thing/s.. .

It's good that we're not language bigots otherwise of as much I Feel as

Understand, of Communication.. . I Feel there is a lot of intelligent people

(out there?) that would join us in that/this respect.. . (of as much?!.

Best wishes, Thereof

> >

> > Wow. I posted one time at the Today Facebook page about the Wakefield ambush

@

http://www.facebook.com/todayshow?ref=ts#!/posted.php?id=12566691349 & share_id=10\

6428256070630 & comments=1#s106428256070630I & went to comment a second time & a

message appeared I was abusing the system. I guess they have my number & want

nada to do with me. I tried to post the following when I was so rudely cut off.

Could someone post it there for me, please?

> >

> > I bet NBC's poll for the Today show is fixed, too? It started out in the

high 40's on the side of truth & has dropped like a hot potato to around 12% in

just hours.

> >

> >

http://community.todaymoms.com/_question/2010/05/24/4342399-do-you-think-vaccine\

s-are-related-to-autism

> >

> > Email the today show & show your disgust.

> >

> > TODAY@

> >

>

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I tried to find it for you but came up empty. I think it was all of 5 minutes of

ambush & the rest were clips from the first time he did truth & the health &

well being of our children wrong.

> >

> > The ambush was to be expected. However, I thought Wakefield acquitted

himself remarkably well in the short time he had to defend himself, his constant

reiteration of the government's settlements with parents for vax injury from the

MMR etc, and the fact that the media/pr campaign notwithstanding repeating the

same mantra about vaxes, will not erase the fact that vax injured kids with

autism exist and are not going away, nor is he. I thought he got his point

across very well. He seemed like a quiet force to be reckoned with, dignified

and sincere, no matter how Lauer and the story preceding him tried to depict him

otherwise. Although Lauer's comment asking whether he could in fact still refer

to Wakefield as " doctor " in view of his license revocation in the UK was a low

blow, hitting below the belt.

> >

> > Irene

>

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