Guest guest Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 With Singulair... Very good, my kid is sleeping much better since he started taking it. From what I read is a quite safe med and a inhibitor of allergic/inflammatory response. I don't go easily for meds, but this one I've liked so far. Isa Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel [ ] Veramyst, singlulair A new allergist has sent us home with samples of singulair and veramyst to try. We are GF/CF/SF and chelating (AC protocol); my son is 10 years old. He has also prescribed Diflucan for intestinal yeast, and it seems to be helping with his keratosis pilaris as well. Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with their children and either singulair or veramyst or both? TIA, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 My son did not do well on singular - although it did control his allergies, he got very moody on it and had huge tantrums constantly. He does well on Nasonex. Carole > > With Singulair... Very good, my kid is sleeping much better since he started taking it. From what I read is a quite safe med and a inhibitor of allergic/inflammatory response. I don't go easily for meds, but this one I've liked so far. > Isa > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > [ ] Veramyst, singlulair > > A new allergist has sent us home with samples of singulair and > veramyst to try. We are GF/CF/SF and chelating (AC protocol); my son > is 10 years old. > > He has also prescribed Diflucan for intestinal yeast, and it seems to > be helping with his keratosis pilaris as well. > > Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with their children and > either singulair or veramyst or both? > > TIA, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 If you use Singulair you should always use the granules because the chewable tablet has aspartame. Which were you using. Also a reminder to check into all supplements and, especially, pharmaceuticals because of added sweeteners and chemicals. On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:54 PM, cgt321 <cgt321@...> wrote: > > > My son did not do well on singular - although it did control his allergies, > he got very moody on it and had huge tantrums constantly. > > He does well on Nasonex. > > Carole > > > > > > With Singulair... Very good, my kid is sleeping much better since he > started taking it. From what I read is a quite safe med and a inhibitor of > allergic/inflammatory response. I don't go easily for meds, but this one > I've liked so far. > > Isa > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > [ ] Veramyst, singlulair > > > > A new allergist has sent us home with samples of singulair and > > veramyst to try. We are GF/CF/SF and chelating (AC protocol); my son > > is 10 years old. > > > > He has also prescribed Diflucan for intestinal yeast, and it seems to > > be helping with his keratosis pilaris as well. > > > > Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with their children and > > either singulair or veramyst or both? > > > > TIA, > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Under age 12 (has nothing to do with weight), they give the 5mg singulair, which is chewable and has red dye. Even though the 10 mg (over age 12) looks dyed, it is not. But they work well. > > A new allergist has sent us home with samples of singulair and > veramyst to try. We are GF/CF/SF and chelating (AC protocol); my son > is 10 years old. > > He has also prescribed Diflucan for intestinal yeast, and it seems to > be helping with his keratosis pilaris as well. > > Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with their children and > either singulair or veramyst or both? > > TIA, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 It was probably the red dye, which is in the 5mg. You may be able to get liquid (?) or powder form, that does not have red dye. The 10 mg does not have red dye. On the flip side, a class 2 antihistamine that is colorless does the same thing. We have Nasonex and Flonase (both), but I like Astelin better. > > > > With Singulair... Very good, my kid is sleeping much better since he started taking it. From what I read is a quite safe med and a inhibitor of allergic/inflammatory response. I don't go easily for meds, but this one I've liked so far. > > Isa > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > [ ] Veramyst, singlulair > > > > A new allergist has sent us home with samples of singulair and > > veramyst to try. We are GF/CF/SF and chelating (AC protocol); my son > > is 10 years old. > > > > He has also prescribed Diflucan for intestinal yeast, and it seems to > > be helping with his keratosis pilaris as well. > > > > Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with their children and > > either singulair or veramyst or both? > > > > TIA, > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 My son doesn't actually have any noticable reactions to food dyes - although we avoid them anyway. His school used to use skittles for rewards and we never noticed any negative behaviors, so I really think it was the Singulair itself that didn't agree with him. > > > > > > With Singulair... Very good, my kid is sleeping much better since he started taking it. From what I read is a quite safe med and a inhibitor of allergic/inflammatory response. I don't go easily for meds, but this one I've liked so far. > > > Isa > > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > > > [ ] Veramyst, singlulair > > > > > > A new allergist has sent us home with samples of singulair and > > > veramyst to try. We are GF/CF/SF and chelating (AC protocol); my son > > > is 10 years old. > > > > > > He has also prescribed Diflucan for intestinal yeast, and it seems to > > > be helping with his keratosis pilaris as well. > > > > > > Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with their children and > > > either singulair or veramyst or both? > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Singulair worked very well for our son, but we had to discontinue as his diet excludes all artificial colors & flavors and we could not get it (even compounded) without the red color... Jill > > A new allergist has sent us home with samples of singulair and > veramyst to try. We are GF/CF/SF and chelating (AC protocol); my son > is 10 years old. > > He has also prescribed Diflucan for intestinal yeast, and it seems to > be helping with his keratosis pilaris as well. > > Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with their children and > either singulair or veramyst or both? > > TIA, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Could be. There was even some recent news hype about Singulair causing suicidal tendencies. We never had that here, but I guess anything is possible. Medicines affect people in different ways. > > > > > > > > With Singulair... Very good, my kid is sleeping much better since he started taking it. From what I read is a quite safe med and a inhibitor of allergic/inflammatory response. I don't go easily for meds, but this one I've liked so far. > > > > Isa > > > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > > > > > [ ] Veramyst, singlulair > > > > > > > > A new allergist has sent us home with samples of singulair and > > > > veramyst to try. We are GF/CF/SF and chelating (AC protocol); my son > > > > is 10 years old. > > > > > > > > He has also prescribed Diflucan for intestinal yeast, and it seems to > > > > be helping with his keratosis pilaris as well. > > > > > > > > Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with their children and > > > > either singulair or veramyst or both? > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 There is a colorless powder now. (Not sure if it is new, but our allergust had samples.) > > > > A new allergist has sent us home with samples of singulair and > > veramyst to try. We are GF/CF/SF and chelating (AC protocol); my son > > is 10 years old. > > > > He has also prescribed Diflucan for intestinal yeast, and it seems to > > be helping with his keratosis pilaris as well. > > > > Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with their children and > > either singulair or veramyst or both? > > > > TIA, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 My son had a horrible adverse reaction to Singulair. He went wild. He did not sleep for almost a week. He ran in circles, screamed, and punched everyone and everything he could as hard as he could. He was simply manic. And this was at age 3, BEFORE he regressed. Our family doctor (finally bothered) to look at the warnings and the package insert and found that aggression and insomnia (among other things) were known adverse reactions. A few months ago there was something that came out about a lab somewhere that was testing pharmaceuticals and fudging efficacy and safety results. Singulair was on that list. I don't know about the accuracy of this link, it was the quickest thing I could find when I googled it. http://singulair.legalview.info/articles/653077/ > > > > > > > > With Singulair... Very good, my kid is sleeping much better since he started taking it. From what I read is a quite safe med and a inhibitor of allergic/inflammatory response. I don't go easily for meds, but this one I've liked so far. > > > > Isa > > > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > > > > > [ ] Veramyst, singlulair > > > > > > > > A new allergist has sent us home with samples of singulair and > > > > veramyst to try. We are GF/CF/SF and chelating (AC protocol); my son > > > > is 10 years old. > > > > > > > > He has also prescribed Diflucan for intestinal yeast, and it seems to > > > > be helping with his keratosis pilaris as well. > > > > > > > > Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with their children and > > > > either singulair or veramyst or both? > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Hi everyone  My daughter also had an adverse reaction to Singulair and if you go online, you can read hundreds of horror stories about this drug causing insomnia, tantruming, hallucinations - and not just in children.  When I mentioned this to our clinical dietician, she sent me an article below which explains that Singulair works on mast cells in the gut and while inhibiting histamine it also unfortunately inhibits serotonin. So, if you have a child with low serotonin to begin with as many kids with ASD are, then Singulair can really send them over the edge. Anyway, to cut a long story short, we have reduced the amount of Singulir we give (with no loss of gains) and also supplement 30mg of 5HTP in small does throughout the day and this seems to be working much better. Sleep is fine and no more tantrums.  Here is the article:   Nature 297, 229 - 231 (20 May 1982); doi:10.1038/297229a0 Differential release of serotonin and histamine from mast cells Theoharis C. Theoharides, Philip K. Bondy*, Nikolaos D. Tsakalos† &  Philip W. Askenase Department of Internal Medicine, Yale University School of Medicine, 333 Cedar Street, New Haven, Connecticut 06510, USA and *Veterans Administration Medical Center, West Spring Street, West Haven, Connecticut 06516, USA †Permanent address: Department of Internal Medicine, Aristotelian University School of Medicine, Thessaloniki, Greece. Exocytosis dependent on calcium and metabolic energy has been established as the mechanism for the release of membrane-bound secretory products from various exocrine, endocrine and neural cells1. This has also been shown to be the case in mast cells, which have been used increasingly as a model secretory system2. The secretory granules of mast cells contain several mediators3, some of which, such as histamine, are known to participate in many immune reactions and allergic diseases4,5. Because of mast cell involvement in these clinical syndromes, as well as the role of histamine in gastric acid secretion6 and possibly in brain pathophysiology7, there has been great interest in the pharmacological modulation of histamine release from mast cells8. Serotonin is also stored in mast cell granules of several species but much less is known about its secretion. Because histamine and serotonin may have divergent functions in delayed hypersensitivity4,9, we hypothesized that these amines could undergo differential release. We now report that the tricyclic antidepressant drug amitriptyline (Elavil) inhibits histamine release from stimulated mast cells while permitting the release of serotonin. In these conditions, exocytosis of secretory granules is largely prevented, but serotonin is released by an unknown process which still requires calcium and metabolic energy. The ability to secrete differentially expands the physiological potential of the mast cell, and suggests that release of serotonin may not always indicate mast cell secretion via exocytosis of secretory granules. --- Στις ΤÏίτ., 01/06/10, ο/η mosaictm <lisa369@...> ÎγÏαψε: Από: mosaictm <lisa369@...> ΘÎμα: [ ] Re: Veramyst, singlulair Î Ïος: ΗμεÏομηνία: ΤÏίτη, 1 ΙοÏνιος 2010, 21:18  My son had a horrible adverse reaction to Singulair. He went wild. He did not sleep for almost a week. He ran in circles, screamed, and punched everyone and everything he could as hard as he could. He was simply manic. And this was at age 3, BEFORE he regressed. Our family doctor (finally bothered) to look at the warnings and the package insert and found that aggression and insomnia (among other things) were known adverse reactions. A few months ago there was something that came out about a lab somewhere that was testing pharmaceuticals and fudging efficacy and safety results. Singulair was on that list. I don't know about the accuracy of this link, it was the quickest thing I could find when I googled it. http://singulair.legalview.info/articles/653077/ > > > > > > > > With Singulair... Very good, my kid is sleeping much better since he started taking it. From what I read is a quite safe med and a inhibitor of allergic/inflammatory response. I don't go easily for meds, but this one I've liked so far. > > > > Isa > > > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > > > > > [ ] Veramyst, singlulair > > > > > > > > A new allergist has sent us home with samples of singulair and > > > > veramyst to try. We are GF/CF/SF and chelating (AC protocol); my son > > > > is 10 years old. > > > > > > > > He has also prescribed Diflucan for intestinal yeast, and it seems to > > > > be helping with his keratosis pilaris as well. > > > > > > > > Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with their children and > > > > either singulair or veramyst or both? > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Singulair does act on the mast cells; it is a leukotriene inhibitor. Some who cannot use singulair can use Class 2 antihistamines. Class 1 antihistamines have the same effect as Singulair because they cross the BBB readily. Class 2 does so only slightly and does not have the same effects with serotonin; they do not cause sedation like the class 1. This is why I strongly recommended Loratidine in a different post, as opposed to Diphenhydramine. Suasn > > > > > > > > > > With Singulair... Very good, my kid is sleeping much better since he started taking it. From what I read is a quite safe med and a inhibitor of allergic/inflammatory response. I don't go easily for meds, but this one I've liked so far. > > > > > Isa > > > > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > > > > > > > [ ] Veramyst, singlulair > > > > > > > > > > A new allergist has sent us home with samples of singulair and > > > > > veramyst to try. We are GF/CF/SF and chelating (AC protocol); my son > > > > > is 10 years old. > > > > > > > > > > He has also prescribed Diflucan for intestinal yeast, and it seems to > > > > > be helping with his keratosis pilaris as well. > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with their children and > > > > > either singulair or veramyst or both? > > > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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