Re: Treating Yeast w/ GSE = Increased Hyper, Mood Swings - Help!

[Guest guest]

You didn't say if he were on any special diet. You said he had been really

moody and irritable the last couple of days. the cake and ice cream was

yesterday. I only know for us that regular (gluten, casein-containing cake)

would be disastrous for my son. He turns into " Mr. Hyde " whenever he gets

thee proteins.

Whenever i see changes in behavior and mood, I always look at diet first

asking myself what has he eaten -- especially from between the time he

seemed like himself and the onset of the change in behavior.

It is possible it could be die off, but then I would think you should push

through. Sometimes GSE can cause some phenolic issues. It has here. Our

son gets red ears, but I give him the GSE at the same time as an enzyme to

cover phenolic.

Cake and ice cream are full of sugar and bad carbs which are only going to

feed yeast, so giving cake and ice cream defeats the purpose of trying to

kill yeast.

I know at a family gathering once, one of our extended family members

sneaked our son some no-no food. He changed, and we knew someone did it.

They just didn't really get it in the beginning, but we talked to everyone

and asked that they respect what we were trying to do. Seeing how well our

son has done has made believers out of them.

Many people just don't understand that when you are trying to fight yeast,

even a little sugar can hurt a lot and defeat the purpose.

Are you chelating? If so, with what and what protocol?

Athlete's foot is generally fungus. I know when we first started GSE our

son got his first pimple the next day. We've been pushing through.

Have you thought of his adrenals? I know when my son gets really hyper and

anxious, we have given a little ACE with very good results.

We just started with GSE, biotin, and ACE a month ago, along with starting

the AC Protocol and teh yeast beast is the hardest to control for us, so I

think youahve to be very careful diet-wise.

[Guest guest]

The bumps sound like die-off, we had them here. Your son may have a phenol issue

so give the gse with an enzyme that addresses that.

How much gse and probiotics? When do you give it?

S

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On Feb 13, 2011, at 11:50 PM, " AdinsMom " <athomenetjobs@...> wrote:

> Hi all,

> I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with increased

probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C.

>

> He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's been

really hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little bumps on

his elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off?

>

> Should I increase the GSE & mag? Remove GSE? I'm not sure what to do.

>

> Any advice would be much appreciated

> Thank you,

>

>

> Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of cake and

ice cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was just googling a bunch of stuff but I was read an abstracted quote

basically saying you need to first detox the metals before addressing yeast

issues. That addressing yeast first will rerelease the mercury back into the

bloodstream making symptoms worse. These past couple of days I gave my dd some

gse and bee propolis and she started thevday super hyperactive and more

aggressive so I'm going to stop and rethink my plans.

>

> Hi all,

> I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with increased

probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C.

>

> He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's been

really hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little bumps on

his elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off?

>

> Should I increase the GSE & mag? Remove GSE? I'm not sure what to do.

>

> Any advice would be much appreciated

> Thank you,

>

>

> Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of cake and

ice cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue.

>

[Guest guest]

> I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with increased

probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C.

> He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's been

really hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little bumps on

his elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off?

> Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of cake and

ice cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue.

At my house, yeast tended to migrate around in the body before leaving. This

sounds like what you are seeing. I would keep the GSE, give it with No-Fenol

for the hyper issue. You might also add biotin.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> > I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with increased

probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C.

> > He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's been

really hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little bumps on

his elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off?

> > Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of cake and

ice cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue.

>

>

> At my house, yeast tended to migrate around in the body before leaving. This

sounds like what you are seeing. I would keep the GSE, give it with No-Fenol

for the hyper issue. You might also add biotin.

>

> Dana

>

Thanks Dana. I've got biotin on the way, will order some No-Fenol.

I'm giving him Nutribiotic Graprefruit Seed Extract 125 mg, 1 per day. Should I

increase it? He's 65# 9 yrs.

~

[Guest guest]

Thank you . I give him 125mg GSE in the afternoon. Probiotics were just

in evening, I've started twice per day now. It's Swanson Probiotic Complex

Lactobacillus rhamnous 2 bil

Lact. acidophilus 1 bil

Lact. lactis 500 mil

Bifidobacterium longum 500 mil

Streptococcus thermophilus 200 mil

FOS (fructooligosaccharides) 400mg

>

> > Hi all,

> > I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with increased

probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C.

> >

> > He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's been

really hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little bumps on

his elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off?

> >

> > Should I increase the GSE & mag? Remove GSE? I'm not sure what to do.

> >

> > Any advice would be much appreciated

> > Thank you,

> >

> >

> > Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of cake and

ice cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue.

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

ok, he's not chelating yet. waiting to do a hair test.

> >>

> >> Hi all,

> >> I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with increased

> >>probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C.

> >>

> >> He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's been

really

> >>hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little bumps on his

> >>elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off?

> >>

> >> Should I increase the GSE & mag? Remove GSE? I'm not sure what to do.

> >>

> >> Any advice would be much appreciated

> >> Thank you,

> >>

> >>

> >> Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of cake and

ice

> >>cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue.

> >>

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

What does GSE stands for?

Thx in advance

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[Guest guest]

,

did you give two tabs GSE at a time? or what times did you give it?

I've ordered No Fenol so will wait til it arrives to up the dose. He already

takes mag for constipation issues, I may have to increase the dose on that too.

He's taking 150-200mg of mag split 3x/day.

thanks for your help,

> >>

> >> > Hi all,

> >> > I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with

increased

> >>probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C.

> >> >

> >> > He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's been

> >>really hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little bumps

on

> >>his elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off?

> >> >

> >> > Should I increase the GSE & mag? Remove GSE? I'm not sure what to do.

> >> >

> >> > Any advice would be much appreciated

> >> > Thank you,

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of cake

and

> >>ice cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue.

> >> >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >>

[Guest guest]

I would recommend a different probiotic. I never found the Swanson probiotics

to help, they don't provide enough units, not even for me. Custom Probiotics

has worked wonders for us!! I can't speak highly enough about them. I give our

boys 400+ billion CFUs at night and at no other time throughout the day, but we

do give kefir water drinks in between antimicrobial doses during the day. I

give the antimicrobials (300mg GSE-2 tablets, 4 drops OoO-BioAlternatives, 500mg

OLE-Swanson and 10mg Biotin) three times a day for our 40 pound 5 year old. We

used to have major Clostridia and moderate yeast and his last stool test

(Metametrix DNA microbiology test) was perfect! I would like to see his good

bacteria a bit higher, but there was NO yeast, bacteria or parasites! I wish I

could say the same for our two year old, he had a parasite, but we have been

working with him for half the time, we are getting there.

Have you looked into Andy Cutler chelation?? That has been our saving grace.

We are only on round 46 with our 5 year old and already I see TONS of great

changes. Here is the link for my blog, if you would like to check out our

journey, there is LOTS of information there -

http://grayson-youarewhatyoueat.blogspot.com/

I just wrote today about the emotions surrounding our stool test results...

> >

> > > Hi all,

> > > I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with

increased probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C.

> > >

> > > He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's been

really hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little bumps on

his elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off?

> > >

> > > Should I increase the GSE & mag? Remove GSE? I'm not sure what to do.

> > >

> > > Any advice would be much appreciated

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > >

> > > Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of cake

and ice cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

,

thanks for the advice. I have read your blog, you have a lot of great

information, thank you!

I've been reading a lot on Cutlers chelation, am also a member of frequent dose

chelation and have been learning there too.

We have not done it yet because I want to wait and have a hair test done first

(which we will hopefully do soon).

Also, I will have to have proof that he needs it as my hubby otherwise won't

likely go for it.

> > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > > I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with

increased probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C.

> > > >

> > > > He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's been

really hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little bumps on

his elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off?

> > > >

> > > > Should I increase the GSE & mag? Remove GSE? I'm not sure what to do.

> > > >

> > > > Any advice would be much appreciated

> > > > Thank you,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of cake

and ice cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

,

Isn't that high dose of magnesium recommended for those that are chelating?

I would think otherwise it would depend on the individual need. The reason I say

that is because I've giving him higher doses at one point when he was impacted

and it made him extremely lethargic.

Maybe I'm wrong, just seems like a lot.

thanks for your help, I really appreciate it

> >> >>

> >> >> > Hi all,

> >> >> > I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with

> >>increased

> >>

> >> >>probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's

been

>

> >> >>really hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little

bumps on

> >>

> >> >>his elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off?

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Should I increase the GSE & mag? Remove GSE? I'm not sure what to do.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Any advice would be much appreciated

> >> >> > Thank you,

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of

cake

> >>and

> >>

> >> >>ice cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue.

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>

[Guest guest]

What else besides GFE is good you treating yeast? My son is on concerta and can

not take GFE?

> > > >>

> > > >> > Hi all,

> > > >> > I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with

> > >increased

> > >

> > > >>probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's

been

> > > >>really hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little

bumps on

> > >

> > > >>his elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Should I increase the GSE & mag? Remove GSE? I'm not sure what to do.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Any advice would be much appreciated

> > > >> > Thank you,

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of

cake

> > >and

> > >

> > > >>ice cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue.

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>

[Guest guest]

We've had success w increasing biotin and using emulsified oil of oregano.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> > Hi all,

> > > > >> > I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with

> > > >increased

> > > >

> > > > >>probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C.

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days he's

been

> > > > >>really hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little

bumps on

> > > >

> > > > >>his elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off?

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > Should I increase the GSE & mag? Remove GSE? I'm not sure what to

do.

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > Any advice would be much appreciated

> > > > >> > Thank you,

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of

cake

> > > >and

> > > >

> > > > >>ice cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue.

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> >

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

[Guest guest]

> Thanks Dana. I've got biotin on the way, will order some No-Fenol.

> I'm giving him Nutribiotic Graprefruit Seed Extract 125 mg, 1 per day. Should

I increase it? He's 65# 9 yrs.

Try giving him another one, at a different time of the day. See if that helps.

There have been times when I gave my son 4 tablets 3x per day, but I worked up

to it to be sure he tolerated that much and he needed that much.

Dana

[Guest guest]

,

I forgot to mention I did start him on ACE, he's been on it about 3 weeks now.

thanks!

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >> > Hi all,

> > > >> >> > I started my 9 yr old son on GSE about 1 1/2 weeks ago along with

> > > >>increased

> > > >>

> > > >> >>probiotics. He also takes magnesium for constipation, EFA's, Vit C.

> > > >> >> >

> > > >> >> > He's been really moody, irritable etc and the last couple days

he's been

> > >

> > > >> >>really hyper, also his athletes foot has come back along with little

bumps on

> > > >>

> > > >> >>his elbows and a bit of acne. Is this from yeast die off?

> > > >> >> >

> > > >> >> > Should I increase the GSE & mag? Remove GSE? I'm not sure what to

do.

> > > >> >> >

> > > >> >> > Any advice would be much appreciated

> > > >> >> > Thank you,

> > > >> >> >

> > > >> >> >

> > > >> >> > Ps. forgot to mention, his grandmother gave him a hefty portion of

cake

> > > >>and

> > > >>

> > > >> >>ice cream yesterday, symptoms got worse after and continue.

> > > >> >> >

> > > >> >> >

> > > >> >>

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