Re: still playing with saliva......

[Guest guest]

> Dana, i have been giving OLE and GSE to my son for playing with saliva but no

success yet, did not give carnitine or biotin yet.

For my son, this meant carnitine deficiency. Try adding carnitine.

> When you say increase the dose how much increase you mean?

Depends on how much you are giving now. For example, if you are giving 4 drops

2x per day now, try giving 4 drops 3x per day, or 6 drops 2x per day.

> Also since i am not doing AC protocol the OLE GSE biotin and carnitine will

not have adverse effect pl. clarify?

I don't really understand the question. OLE and GSE are high phenol. OLE

addressed bacteria and viruses, tended to increase yeast. GSE addressed yeast.

Biotin addressed yeast and a few other issues. Carnitine was required for the

proper absorption of many supplements.

> And you have said time and again OLE and GSE increased yeast in your house so

if it increases it are these supplements still safe to give?

OLE increased yeast here. GSE eliminated yeast.

For my son, if a supplement increased yeast, that was usually a sign that it was

helping him. Most of the supplements he required for recovery tended to

increase yeast.

> My son is 18. Him playing with saliva has stopped his life in a way. He cannot

go to any program because everyone is saying it is a severe hygenic issue. i

really don't know what to do???????????

Try carnitine.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi Dana thanks so much for responding....carnitine what strength??????? please

clarify/ how much you started with? and then increased to how much? mostly the

brands that you tell here are tried out and work so kindly tell what brand you

give to your son and again its strength.

When I asked adverse effects means that it will not interact with the metals

that are in his body( i know now) and displace them in any way?

also biotin brand and strength please because you have mentioned it a lot and i

would really want to buy that too.

thanks much,

mandy

> > Dana, i have been giving OLE and GSE to my son for playing with saliva but

no success yet, did not give carnitine or biotin yet.

>

>

> For my son, this meant carnitine deficiency. Try adding carnitine.

>

>

> > When you say increase the dose how much increase you mean?

>

>

> Depends on how much you are giving now. For example, if you are giving 4

drops 2x per day now, try giving 4 drops 3x per day, or 6 drops 2x per day.

>

>

> > Also since i am not doing AC protocol the OLE GSE biotin and carnitine will

not have adverse effect pl. clarify?

>

>

> I don't really understand the question. OLE and GSE are high phenol. OLE

addressed bacteria and viruses, tended to increase yeast. GSE addressed yeast.

Biotin addressed yeast and a few other issues. Carnitine was required for the

proper absorption of many supplements.

>

>

> > And you have said time and again OLE and GSE increased yeast in your house

so if it increases it are these supplements still safe to give?

>

>

> OLE increased yeast here. GSE eliminated yeast.

>

> For my son, if a supplement increased yeast, that was usually a sign that it

was helping him. Most of the supplements he required for recovery tended to

increase yeast.

>

>

> > My son is 18. Him playing with saliva has stopped his life in a way. He

cannot go to any program because everyone is saying it is a severe hygenic

issue. i really don't know what to do???????????

>

>

> Try carnitine.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Dana with all due respect you know so much that if you could pl. make us a list

of all the supplements their brands and their strengths and the reasons you use

them for that you have in your medicine cabinet it would be so easy for everyone

seeking your advice. thanks.

thanks for your time really.........

>

> Dana, i have been giving OLE and GSE to my son for playing with saliva but no

success yet, did not give carnitine or biotin yet.

>

> When you say increase the dose how much increase you mean?

>

> Also since i am not doing AC protocol the OLE GSE biotin and carnitine will

not have adverse effect pl. clarify?

>

> And you have said time and again OLE and GSE increased yeast in your house so

if it increases it are these supplements still safe to give?

>

> My son is 18. Him playing with saliva has stopped his life in a way. He cannot

go to any program because everyone is saying it is a severe hygenic issue. i

really don't know what to do???????????

> Been doing so much reading online, it's so overwhelming but really

informative.....i have found a couple of dentists in NY who can take amalgam out

of my son's mouth, still a word of mouth would help so much, don't know whom to

choose?

>

>

> Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Dana's supp info is here:

http://www.danasview.net/supps.htm

I've done a lot of reading through it and it is very well put together.

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:21 PM, beforesunrise202 <

beforesunrise202@...> wrote:

>

>

> Dana with all due respect you know so much that if you could pl. make us a

> list of all the supplements their brands and their strengths and the reasons

> you use them for that you have in your medicine cabinet it would be so easy

> for everyone seeking your advice. thanks.

> thanks for your time really.........

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Dana, i have been giving OLE and GSE to my son for playing with saliva

> but no success yet, did not give carnitine or biotin yet.

> >

> > When you say increase the dose how much increase you mean?

> >

> > Also since i am not doing AC protocol the OLE GSE biotin and carnitine

> will not have adverse effect pl. clarify?

> >

> > And you have said time and again OLE and GSE increased yeast in your

> house so if it increases it are these supplements still safe to give?

> >

> > My son is 18. Him playing with saliva has stopped his life in a way. He

> cannot go to any program because everyone is saying it is a severe hygenic

> issue. i really don't know what to do???????????

> > Been doing so much reading online, it's so overwhelming but really

> informative.....i have found a couple of dentists in NY who can take amalgam

> out of my son's mouth, still a word of mouth would help so much, don't know

> whom to choose?

> >

> >

> > Thanks

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Hi Dana thanks so much for responding....carnitine what strength???????

I started with 250mg. If your child is very young, I would start with 100mg.

>>then increased to how much?

My son ended up requiring 3000mg 3x per day for a while.

>>mostly the brands that you tell here are tried out and work so kindly tell

what brand you give to your son

I used NOW brand. It seems that most kids do best with acetyl-l-carnitine, but

my son did best with l-carnitine, so experiment to see which one works best for

your child.

> When I asked adverse effects means that it will not interact with the metals

that are in his body( i know now) and displace them in any way?

Not in my experience.

> also biotin brand and strength please because you have mentioned it a lot and

i would really want to buy that too.

I used several different brands. I liked Country Life the best because it was a

teeny tiny capsule. It is 5mg per capsule. I started with 400mcg tho,

different brand, and worked up. My son ended up needing 20mg 3x per day.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Dana with all due respect you know so much that if you could pl. make us a

list of all the supplements their brands and their strengths and the reasons

you use them for that you have in your medicine cabinet it would be so easy for

everyone seeking your advice. thanks.

I made this page several years ago, so I do need to update it, but you can start

here if you want

http://www.danasview.net/supps.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

thanks you, helpful just like your every advice....

> > Dana with all due respect you know so much that if you could pl. make us a

list of all the supplements their brands and their strengths and the reasons

you use them for that you have in your medicine cabinet it would be so easy for

everyone seeking your advice. thanks.

>

>

> I made this page several years ago, so I do need to update it, but you can

start here if you want

>

> http://www.danasview.net/supps.htm

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

thanks again.....

> > Hi Dana thanks so much for responding....carnitine what strength???????

>

>

> I started with 250mg. If your child is very young, I would start with 100mg.

>

>

> >>then increased to how much?

>

>

> My son ended up requiring 3000mg 3x per day for a while.

>

>

> >>mostly the brands that you tell here are tried out and work so kindly tell

what brand you give to your son

>

>

> I used NOW brand. It seems that most kids do best with acetyl-l-carnitine,

but my son did best with l-carnitine, so experiment to see which one works best

for your child.

>

>

> > When I asked adverse effects means that it will not interact with the metals

that are in his body( i know now) and displace them in any way?

>

>

> Not in my experience.

>

>

> > also biotin brand and strength please because you have mentioned it a lot

and i would really want to buy that too.

>

>

> I used several different brands. I liked Country Life the best because it was

a teeny tiny capsule. It is 5mg per capsule. I started with 400mcg tho,

different brand, and worked up. My son ended up needing 20mg 3x per day.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

thanks i have been doing some reading too lately. it is so informative. the

more i read the more I know I know how little I know.

> > >

> > > Dana, i have been giving OLE and GSE to my son for playing with saliva

> > but no success yet, did not give carnitine or biotin yet.

> > >

> > > When you say increase the dose how much increase you mean?

> > >

> > > Also since i am not doing AC protocol the OLE GSE biotin and carnitine

> > will not have adverse effect pl. clarify?

> > >

> > > And you have said time and again OLE and GSE increased yeast in your

> > house so if it increases it are these supplements still safe to give?

> > >

> > > My son is 18. Him playing with saliva has stopped his life in a way. He

> > cannot go to any program because everyone is saying it is a severe hygenic

> > issue. i really don't know what to do???????????

> > > Been doing so much reading online, it's so overwhelming but really

> > informative.....i have found a couple of dentists in NY who can take amalgam

> > out of my son's mouth, still a word of mouth would help so much, don't know

> > whom to choose?

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What about parasites. Mickie was doing the same thing and after treating him

for parasites for a few weeks he stopped. Interesting enough I had also

stopped GSE and replaced it with OLE so that also might have helped.

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:55 PM, beforesunrise202 <

beforesunrise202@...> wrote:

>

>

> Dana, i have been giving OLE and GSE to my son for playing with saliva but

> no success yet, did not give carnitine or biotin yet.

>

> When you say increase the dose how much increase you mean?

>

> Also since i am not doing AC protocol the OLE GSE biotin and carnitine will

> not have adverse effect pl. clarify?

>

> And you have said time and again OLE and GSE increased yeast in your house

> so if it increases it are these supplements still safe to give?

>

> My son is 18. Him playing with saliva has stopped his life in a way. He

> cannot go to any program because everyone is saying it is a severe hygenic

> issue. i really don't know what to do???????????

> Been doing so much reading online, it's so overwhelming but really

> informative.....i have found a couple of dentists in NY who can take amalgam

> out of my son's mouth, still a word of mouth would help so much, don't know

> whom to choose?

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

--

Zurama

Mickie 13yrs

Round #47

25mg DMSA 25mg ALA

Autistic by Injection <http://mickiesprogress.blogspot.com>

[Guest guest]

hi Dana, acc. to your post-----

folic acid-------

" Required for proper absorption of B12 and TMG. For my kids, this eliminated

most scripting/echolalia, stopped my son from " writing letters in the air " , and

caused baby smooth skin for everyone, including me. For kids who don't absorb

nutrients well, can be given as folinic acid. "

My son has also been writing letters in air scripting for a long time besides

playing with saliva, sometimes it's too much, so I also want to try folic acid ,

is this one ok

Source Naturals Folic Acid -- 800 mcg - 500 Tablets

(i use source naturals for Zn also.)

my question is i don't give B12 and TMG to my son. should i give him those or

just folic acid alone can be absorbed.

pl. answer the same for

biotin

carinitine

do i have buy any other supplements to help their absorption.

i just came across Vitacost.com which seems pretty reasonable.

also what are the other very common supplements you use? and which are your

trusted brands?

my son is 18 and he takes

Zn. 50mg

primal defense and no fenol with every meal

melatonin 5mg and

cod liver oil with A & D.

thanks

[Guest guest]

how did you test for parasites?

>

> >

> >

> > Dana, i have been giving OLE and GSE to my son for playing with saliva but

> > no success yet, did not give carnitine or biotin yet.

> >

> > When you say increase the dose how much increase you mean?

> >

> > Also since i am not doing AC protocol the OLE GSE biotin and carnitine will

> > not have adverse effect pl. clarify?

> >

> > And you have said time and again OLE and GSE increased yeast in your house

> > so if it increases it are these supplements still safe to give?

> >

> > My son is 18. Him playing with saliva has stopped his life in a way. He

> > cannot go to any program because everyone is saying it is a severe hygenic

> > issue. i really don't know what to do???????????

> > Been doing so much reading online, it's so overwhelming but really

> > informative.....i have found a couple of dentists in NY who can take amalgam

> > out of my son's mouth, still a word of mouth would help so much, don't know

> > whom to choose?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Zurama

> Mickie 13yrs

> Round #47

> 25mg DMSA 25mg ALA

> Autistic by Injection <http://mickiesprogress.blogspot.com>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dana do you give Ca Mg to your son if yes how much and how long you've been

giving that? what symptoms have you seen with its deficiency?

Also my son is so constipated these days and his stimming of saliva is worst

when he has not eaten for few hours and his stomach is empty, he goes nuts and

drains himself with stimming????

[Guest guest]

hi

you can test for parasites througt comprehensive stool analysis test gt plains,

doctors data or genova diagnostics, or the 2105 microbial ecology profile by

meta metrix www.metametrix.com

Isobel

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dana, i have been giving OLE and GSE to my son for playing with saliva but

> > > no success yet, did not give carnitine or biotin yet.

> > >

> > > When you say increase the dose how much increase you mean?

> > >

> > > Also since i am not doing AC protocol the OLE GSE biotin and carnitine

will

> > > not have adverse effect pl. clarify?

> > >

> > > And you have said time and again OLE and GSE increased yeast in your house

> > > so if it increases it are these supplements still safe to give?

> > >

> > > My son is 18. Him playing with saliva has stopped his life in a way. He

> > > cannot go to any program because everyone is saying it is a severe hygenic

> > > issue. i really don't know what to do???????????

> > > Been doing so much reading online, it's so overwhelming but really

> > > informative.....i have found a couple of dentists in NY who can take

amalgam

> > > out of my son's mouth, still a word of mouth would help so much, don't

know

> > > whom to choose?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Zurama

> > Mickie 13yrs

> > Round #47

> > 25mg DMSA 25mg ALA

> > Autistic by Injection <http://mickiesprogress.blogspot.com>

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> My son has also been writing letters in air scripting for a long time besides

playing with saliva, sometimes it's too much, so I also want to try folic acid ,

> is this one ok

> Source Naturals Folic Acid -- 800 mcg - 500 Tablets

I did not use that brand, but so long as it doesn't have a lot of fillers, and

you are having success with that brand for other supplements, it should be fine.

> my question is i don't give B12 and TMG to my son. should i give him those or

just folic acid alone can be absorbed.

You can give just folic. The folic required carnitine here. I am suspicious

[but was unable to confirm fully] that the folic required B12 just like the B12

required folic. So once you determine that the folic is tolerated, you might

try adding mB12. Watch for yeast, both folic and B12 increased yeast here.

> pl. answer the same for

> biotin

Required magnesium.

> carinitine

Was required for the proper absorption of many nutrients.

> also what are the other very common supplements you use? and which are your

trusted brands?

My son doesn't need daily supplements any more. I did start DMSA about 8 months

ago, to see if that caused any additional improvements [it appears that it

does]. I have already chelated my kids with ALA.

Brands I have used and liked include NOW, Country Life, HNI, Sun Harvest,

Nutribiotic, and a few others.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Dana do you give Ca Mg to your son

No

>> if yes how much and how long you've been giving that? what symptoms have you

seen with its deficiency?

My son was calcium toxic. It required IP6 to eliminate the toxicity, then

giving the supps that calcium requires for proper absorption. He eats/drinks

milk products for his calcium.

I take a cal/mag supplement for myself.

> Also my son is so constipated these days and his stimming of saliva is worst

when he has not eaten for few hours and his stomach is empty, he goes nuts and

drains himself with stimming????

What are the stims? What supps do you give? What does he eat?

At my house, the most common cause of constipation was yeast and magnesium

deficiency [both usually caused by certain supplements]. Certain foods also

caused constipation.

http://www.danasview.net/constip.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

thanks much

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dana, i have been giving OLE and GSE to my son for playing with saliva

but

> > > > no success yet, did not give carnitine or biotin yet.

> > > >

> > > > When you say increase the dose how much increase you mean?

> > > >

> > > > Also since i am not doing AC protocol the OLE GSE biotin and carnitine

will

> > > > not have adverse effect pl. clarify?

> > > >

> > > > And you have said time and again OLE and GSE increased yeast in your

house

> > > > so if it increases it are these supplements still safe to give?

> > > >

> > > > My son is 18. Him playing with saliva has stopped his life in a way. He

> > > > cannot go to any program because everyone is saying it is a severe

hygenic

> > > > issue. i really don't know what to do???????????

> > > > Been doing so much reading online, it's so overwhelming but really

> > > > informative.....i have found a couple of dentists in NY who can take

amalgam

> > > > out of my son's mouth, still a word of mouth would help so much, don't

know

> > > > whom to choose?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Zurama

> > > Mickie 13yrs

> > > Round #47

> > > 25mg DMSA 25mg ALA

> > > Autistic by Injection <http://mickiesprogress.blogspot.com>

> > >

> > >

> > >