Re: Was: Mild neutropenia with dmsa Now: Neutrophils??

[Guest guest]

Have you tried that neutrophil plus supplement mentioned? The only other

thing I can think of outside the supplement realm is to look into frequency

devices, such as a zapper to lower the viral load.

From: jtmk98.535597

Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 7:18 AM

Subject: [ ] Was: Mild neutropenia with dmsa Now: Neutrophils??

Some of you here understand WBC readings?? My Dr.s haven't been able to explain

it to me and I've been very frustrated about it.

I know this is OT, yet the discussion may lead to help for those dealing with

viral issues.

I've had low WBC ever since I got mono about 1991. I had the low grade fever

with the mono until about 4 yrs ago. I was sent to the Head of Infectious

Disease at Ohio State when it hit 2.6

He said my WBC readings were like someone with advanced Aids, that he'd never

seen anything like it even in early Aids. Nonetheless, there was nothing he

could do for me.

I had BC last year (no node involvement, did not take chemo or radiation, but

had a double mastectomy). I have seen my Oncologist (though I think it's pretty

pointless to anymore. She's very nice but doesn't know anything beyond the

triple-play for cancer)and she does my CBC.

Last WBC reading through her was 3.3 (It is always about here) RBCs are fine,

but all the rest are low: EOS, Lymphs, Monos, Basophils Abs, Eosinophils Abs,

Lymphocytes Abs, Monocytes Abs, and the one they go by to see if you'd make it

through chemo (which I won't take, & they go by a range of 2.0 to 11.0),is 2.2,

which to my mind, shows me I wouldn't even be a good candidate for it anyhow.

The one High reading in the whole WBC panel is Neutrophils at 68.4, though when

it's all taken together, in the Neutrophils Abs, it's still pathetically low.

I had another Dr. give me the mono test lately and my readings are identical to

what they were when I was in the full-blown mono, except the IGG for Epstein

Barr has gone from 4.67 to 4.73, with a range saying it should be under .91

Until the last two years, I had a poor, high sugar diet. Now my diet is whole

foods, no processed, no white flour or sugar, lots of raw, and LOTS of

supplements. I take Beta Glucan, all the ones for chelation (had amalgams out in

August and have been doing AC with my two dds), have added what Dana recommends

for Viral protocol, and many more recommended for cancer, the immune system, &

on.

My sense is that the low WBC is not allowing the mono to leave and the mono is

not allowing the WBC to raise. So, I'm wanting to pick the brains of you brains

out there who might have insight into how to get free of this vicious cycle.

I do plan on seeing a homeopath next month.

Thank you to anyone who can shed any light on all this and if there's any hope

of helping such a long, deep viral/immune system problem.

>

> JMO, but low neutrophils is a concern. I think you are prudent to

> post-pone. I would. Did you get a baseline CBC before starting chelation?

>

> You need to get the neutrophil count back up. Our son's was low for years

> before it stabilized.

>

> It may just be an infection caught at school. Usually neutropenia is more

> of a concern when doing IV rather than frequent, low dose chelation.

>

> I'd let him get well, recheck neutrophil count, and then prepare to resume

> when the count stabilizes. Sometimes it can be a deficiency in B12 and

> folate, but this sounds like something he caught at school.

>

> If my son's neutrophil came back low, I would post-pone and recheck it

> before resuming.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We had good results with Neutrophil Plus by Biotics Research, now sold to the

public.

> >

> > JMO, but low neutrophils is a concern. I think you are prudent to

> > post-pone. I would. Did you get a baseline CBC before starting chelation?

> >

> > You need to get the neutrophil count back up. Our son's was low for years

> > before it stabilized.

> >

> > It may just be an infection caught at school. Usually neutropenia is more

> > of a concern when doing IV rather than frequent, low dose chelation.

> >

> > I'd let him get well, recheck neutrophil count, and then prepare to resume

> > when the count stabilizes. Sometimes it can be a deficiency in B12 and

> > folate, but this sounds like something he caught at school.

> >

> > If my son's neutrophil came back low, I would post-pone and recheck it

> > before resuming.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

What did that product do for you? Did it raise a low WBC or change any readings

in the WBC profile?

I would love to use some of the therapies that involve machines for either my

two dds or myself, but we live hours away from any large cities where they might

be available, and even the in-home versions are cost-prohibitive. We are

spending so much already on the supplements for my 2 dds, myself (cancer) and my

dh (other health issues).

> > >

> > > JMO, but low neutrophils is a concern. I think you are prudent to

> > > post-pone. I would. Did you get a baseline CBC before starting chelation?

> > >

> > > You need to get the neutrophil count back up. Our son's was low for years

> > > before it stabilized.

> > >

> > > It may just be an infection caught at school. Usually neutropenia is more

> > > of a concern when doing IV rather than frequent, low dose chelation.

> > >

> > > I'd let him get well, recheck neutrophil count, and then prepare to resume

> > > when the count stabilizes. Sometimes it can be a deficiency in B12 and

> > > folate, but this sounds like something he caught at school.

> > >

> > > If my son's neutrophil came back low, I would post-pone and recheck it

> > > before resuming.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Yes, over the course of 6 weeks, it raised the neutrophil value.

> > > >

> > > > JMO, but low neutrophils is a concern. I think you are prudent to

> > > > post-pone. I would. Did you get a baseline CBC before starting

chelation?

> > > >

> > > > You need to get the neutrophil count back up. Our son's was low for

years

> > > > before it stabilized.

> > > >

> > > > It may just be an infection caught at school. Usually neutropenia is

more

> > > > of a concern when doing IV rather than frequent, low dose chelation.

> > > >

> > > > I'd let him get well, recheck neutrophil count, and then prepare to

resume

> > > > when the count stabilizes. Sometimes it can be a deficiency in B12 and

> > > > folate, but this sounds like something he caught at school.

> > > >

> > > > If my son's neutrophil came back low, I would post-pone and recheck it

> > > > before resuming.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

But did it raise your total WBC? As I said in my original post, for some

strange reason, though all of the other readings within the WBC, and the WBC

itself are low, my actual neutrophils are high (68.4):

Last WBC reading through her was 3.3 (It is always about here) RBCs are fine,

but all the rest are low: EOS, Lymphs, Monos, Basophils Abs, Eosinophils Abs,

Lymphocytes Abs, Monocytes Abs, and the one they go by to see if you'd make it

through chemo (which I won't take, & they go by a range of 2.0 to 11.0),is 2.2,

which to my mind, shows me I wouldn't even be a good candidate for it anyhow.

> > > The one High reading in the whole WBC panel is Neutrophils at 68.4, though

when it's all taken together, in the Neutrophils Abs, it's still pathetically

low.

I'm looking for a way to raise my total WBC and hopefully some of the other

readings in that WBC set, to indicate a stronger immune system.

> > > > >

> > > > > JMO, but low neutrophils is a concern. I think you are prudent to

> > > > > post-pone. I would. Did you get a baseline CBC before starting

chelation?

> > > > >

> > > > > You need to get the neutrophil count back up. Our son's was low for

years

> > > > > before it stabilized.

> > > > >

> > > > > It may just be an infection caught at school. Usually neutropenia is

more

> > > > > of a concern when doing IV rather than frequent, low dose chelation.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'd let him get well, recheck neutrophil count, and then prepare to

resume

> > > > > when the count stabilizes. Sometimes it can be a deficiency in B12 and

> > > > > folate, but this sounds like something he caught at school.

> > > > >

> > > > > If my son's neutrophil came back low, I would post-pone and recheck it

> > > > > before resuming.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >