Need Advice

[Guest guest]

You begin by getting a professional diagnosis. This does not mean you must

treat the patient this way. It is the beginning, a diagnosis. If it is a

tumor it needs further evaluation to see if it is malignant or not. This is

best done with conventional equipment not offered in a naturopaths office.

You may use an Osteopath who works with the natural and conventional. Yet

for diagnosis I would not be afraid to go conventional, I do however, always

handle Doctor's in a politically correct manner, as they are easy to report

parents that have other idea's for treatment then there recommendation to

the DSS for child neglect. Yet you run that risk know by even considering

not taking you child to a Doctor. My Osteopath always helps me with how to

talk to my Doctor, she tells me exactly what terminology to use with

conventional Doctors. Best wishes.

[Guest guest]

a bump could be a benign sebaceous cyst or could be something much more

serious. Diagnostically speaking you should take the boy to a western MD.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 09/01/2000 7:36:31 PM Central Daylight Time,

abrs@... writes:

<< You begin by getting a professional diagnosis. This does not mean you must

treat the patient this way. It is the beginning, a diagnosis. >>

*********

How did your trip to the hospital turn out and was the diagnosis as you

suspected?

I believe it was your throat. (?)

EJ

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 09/02/2000 7:38:12 AM Central Daylight Time,

abrs@... writes:

<< They want to remove my tonsils and adenoids,

but I know being more careful in my environment will control this.

Bernadette >>

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I know you are greatly relieved and are handling it. I am reading Norman

's book * Colon Health: the key to a vibrant life. Wish my parents

had known what he tells about having tonsils removed. They are an intricant

part to health. Oh well, too late for me.

EJ

[Guest guest]

Thanks for asking..... I flew to MASS. Ear, Nose and Throat. I was in a

bizarre state, having just been told these kind of lumps are seen in people

that use there throat a lot and people that wear voice boxes. Before leaving

my throat was swelling shut. At the hospital they found swollen tonsils and

adenoids along with the lump. They scheduled me for a barium swallow and

ultra sound the following week. I went to Lake Winnapasakee for the week

while waiting for the following test to be taken. In the fresh clear air up

in the mountains at the lake, my lump virtually vanished, my tonsils and

adenoids were no longer sore. I was also eating only raw foods. I began

hiking, boating, swimming and just had a healthy great time. I knew before

going back for the test that this was allergy related. So before returning

home, I had a dehumidifier installed in the basement, a whole hose fan

installed to air the house out, and continue to fast at least once a month

on all raw food. VA air is very humid and I just live more carefully.

Especially being more careful with air conditioning. I must air my house out

2-3 times a day with fresh air. They want to remove my tonsils and adenoids,

but I know being more careful in my environment will control this.

Bernadette

Re: Need advice

>

> In a message dated 09/01/2000 7:36:31 PM Central Daylight Time,

> abrs@... writes:

>

> << You begin by getting a professional diagnosis. This does not mean you

must

> treat the patient this way. It is the beginning, a diagnosis. >>

> *********

>

> How did your trip to the hospital turn out and was the diagnosis as you

> suspected?

> I believe it was your throat. (?)

> EJ

>

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[Guest guest]

Kandice, a bump does not mean necessarily cancer. If you do not go to an MD

then the authorities will not ever accuse you of neglect or anything else

for that matter. According to Hulda e, lumps and " tumors " are nothing

more or less than encapsulated parasites. I would get a zapper, or build

one (instructions in the book by Hulda e) and start a good parasite

program. There are some people who have a stronger zapper than the one

Hulda e uses. I had a lump on my back that a therapist used this

zapper that had a glass " rake " on the end of it. It shot out a violet light

when it was on. He applied it to the lump with a good deal of attention to

that lump. The lump eventually opened up and out came a section of tape

worm. Needless to say I do a lot of zapping now. I am sorry I cannot give

you more information on that other zapper. I have one back home, but it

would take some digging to get more info on it.

Kris

Smart is believing only half of what you hear,

brilliant is knowing which half to believe.

Atlantic1@...

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

> My 11 year old son came to me and asked me why he has a " bump "

> under his nipple. I felt it and it was pea sized and hard.

> He says it only hurts when he messes with it and this was the

> first time he noticed it.

>

> Where do I go from here? I don't want to go to a medical doctor.

> I don't believe much in medical-type cancer treatment if that is

> what it is. But if I don't go mainstream, will I be in trouble

> for neglect?

This could be as minor as a blocked duct. Males have them in that area as

well. Most cancers do not hurt I am told. I have had many lumps

investigated including a pea sized one in my breast. I am pleased to say

that none have been cancer. I know that is the first thought that comes to

mind but be assured that it is not always the case. In my opinion a MD

would be the best place to go to get a diagnosis as their methods are faster

(i.e. a blood test) then depending on how you feel you want to proceed is up

to you. I have a sister that had a lump in her breast detected by her MD.

They wanted to do needle biopsies etc. She refused and took her problem to

her health care practitioner and he has helped dissipate the lump.

I hope this alleviates some of your fear. Good luck and God bless.

[Guest guest]

Kandice, I have 3 boys and the 2 older ones (now 20 and 18) had lumps under

their nipples when going through pubity. I just told them it was to do with

hormones and we had a great laugh about their breasts. And the lumps did

hurt a bit but it does go away. I don't know what you can do for it and I am

not sure that you would want to as it does not last for very long. Sherry

>From: naturalmom@...

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>Subject: Need advice

>Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 21:58:24 -0000

>

>Hi,

>My 11 year old son came to me and asked me why he has a " bump "

>under his nipple. I felt it and it was pea sized and hard.

>He says it only hurts when he messes with it and this was the

>first time he noticed it.

>

>Where do I go from here? I don't want to go to a medical doctor.

>I don't believe much in medical-type cancer treatment if that is

>what it is. But if I don't go mainstream, will I be in trouble

>for neglect?

>

>What are my options for dealing with this " bump " naturally? I

>have a Naturopath who has dealt with a couple of my other kids for

>allergies and eczema and such. Is this a good place to start?

>

>What should I be doing as far as cleansing and diet for him? I

>just really don't know where to begin...

>

>Thanks for anything you can offer.

>

>Blessings,

>

>Kandice

>Stay home with your family and earn income.

>kandyc@...

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kandice,

My son had the same thing. Just tell him not to bother it and it should go

away. At this age our boy's hormones are kicking into over drive. This can

occasional cause boys to get lumps around the breast. When the different

hormones have straightened out and are being produced in the correct amounts

the lump should go away.

I would still take him to an MD but I assure you that I have been through

this. It may not be the same thing but it sure sounds like it.

Best,

Kim

> Hi,

> My 11 year old son came to me and asked me why he has a " bump "

> under his nipple. I felt it and it was pea sized and hard.

> He says it only hurts when he messes with it and this was the

> first time he noticed it.

>

> Where do I go from here? I don't want to go to a medical doctor.

> I don't believe much in medical-type cancer treatment if that is

> what it is. But if I don't go mainstream, will I be in trouble

> for neglect?

>

> What are my options for dealing with this " bump " naturally? I

> have a Naturopath who has dealt with a couple of my other kids for

> allergies and eczema and such. Is this a good place to start?

>

> What should I be doing as far as cleansing and diet for him? I

> just really don't know where to begin...

>

> Thanks for anything you can offer.

>

> Blessings,

>

> Kandice

> Stay home with your family and earn income.

> kandyc@...

>

[Guest guest]

Once again I need all the loving advice I can get from the group. On

WEdnesday Ashli goes for her 3 month checkup at the Ped Rheumy. Since August

Ashli has been in what I call a " medicated remission " . She is still stiff a

little in the mornings (only about 5 minutes) and that is it. Now I know the

warm weather here in Cleveland, Ohio has made a difference and that as the

colder weather begins her symptoms may re-appear. I'm just wondering if you

think I should suggest to the doctor to start tapering the motrin and

plaquenil or should we wait and see how she does in the winter months? I go

back in forth in my mind.

Thanks so much for all the caring,

Sandi A. (Ashli's mom)

[Guest guest]

Sandi

ask the doctor this is always the best

i feel the same way

melissa takes her voltaren 3 times a day

but still has some problems

and winter time i think makes it worse cold and rainy weather

Robbin

[Guest guest]

It was about six months before the took my daughter off plaquinal. That was

the drug that seemed to bring remission for her. She was already off the

nsaids because they made her bleed. It would not hurt to ask. Maybe you could

try to eliminate the nsaids like we did. Good Luck SHU

[Guest guest]

this sounds ok with the way he wants to taper

preds need to gradually taper off

he seems like he doesnt want any sudden imbalance in her body

to cause a lapse this will help her

its kind of like adjusting the body back to some what normal

Robbin

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[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn

You need to make an appointment with an opthamologist, as some forms

of JRA can cause uveitis (sp?) My son Jordan has been twice and all

is fine, but he's systemic, which it doesn't seem to usually bother.

It's the kids with polyarticular and pauciarticular that need to be

watched closely. Jordan goes every 4 months to his, and make sure

that the opth that you choose does see children, making it a little

easier experience.

Good Luck

Lori

Mom of Jordan 5 - systemic

[Guest guest]

has pauciarticular JRA and is ANA positive. Even though she is

currently in remission she has to get her eyes checked every 6 months.

Teri

[Guest guest]

Well, I put on the yeast connection diet ( caveman diet )and

introduced foods one at a time the were potential allergy foods. He is

allergic to wheat ,corn , beef( these are the foods that i reintroduced

after the three week cave man diet). He is allergic to every form of

grass,weed and trees. He is also allergic to outdoor mold in the fall(

decaying leaves) and thawing ground above 35 degrees. Those are the two

times that the out door molds really fly. He is allergic to dust but not

to animals. we had our carpet taken out two months ago. we now have

tile floor. He isn't taking any steroids in fact that is what we have

been trying to avoid. He usually reacts with eczema,asthma and rhinitis

to all of the allergens that i explained. we only give some flat

bread that ii use with spelt flour and he eats oatmeal/oat bran,rice

cakes( only the salted ones). He eats spelts noodles but no regular

pasta. I would love to see the list of things that your son can eat it

would help. I am also trying to get some recipes from the yeast

connection cookbook. So far i had found a few and one of the men from

this list gave me a couple of good recipes. For 's skin problems i

put olive leaf extract ointment on his eczema and his cuts( that is how

his toxins come out) Then it fights the fungal part of the breakout and

helps to clear him up some . It seems like once in a while toxins are

dumped and that is when i see all the eczema the most. Thank you Angie

and all you out there for being a good friend. i appreciate your love

and care.

Love in Jesus,

[Guest guest]

Cher, I thinky our genotype goes a long way in

determining length of treatment. Some with very bad

livers choose to stay on interferon, like a maintenance

dosing, much longer. Best to talk to your doc and good

luck.

alley

[Guest guest]

Cher, I thinky our genotype goes a long way in

determining length of treatment. Some with very bad

livers choose to stay on interferon, like a maintenance

dosing, much longer. Best to talk to your doc and good

luck.

alley

[Guest guest]

If it were me I would stay on for a while longer. You could still

have some virus in your liver (probably not with that low sensitivity

test), but it does increase your chance of a SVR, and it also allows

the interferon to use some of it's antifibrotic effects on your

liver. If you were having serious side effects it might be different,

but you are doing good now, and it's better to stay on longer while

you have insurance than risking the need for retreatment when you no

longer have it.

Claudine

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for your response. I too feel like I should stay on longer.

I suppose the real test will be when I come off the medicinne to see

if it will stay away. Does anybody know what the chances are of

this?? I am a genotype 2b and also can anyone think of any other

tests I should be getting b4 getting off medicinne. What are the

chances of this coming back?? From the beginning my enzymes went

normal when I ws tested @ 6 weeks and the viral load wsn't done until

7 months. I started @ greater than 850,000. Thanks

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your response. I too feel like I should stay on longer.

I suppose the real test will be when I come off the medicinne to see

if it will stay away. Does anybody know what the chances are of

this?? I am a genotype 2b and also can anyone think of any other

tests I should be getting b4 getting off medicinne. What are the

chances of this coming back?? From the beginning my enzymes went

normal when I ws tested @ 6 weeks and the viral load wsn't done until

7 months. I started @ greater than 850,000. Thanks

[Guest guest]

i am assuming when you gave your viral load at 850000 you meant IU,

not copies. I don't think the IU's test higher than 850000 cuz mine

is that too.

Genotype 2's usually, tho not always, do 6 mo of treatment. They are

easier to get into remission, however, my gastro has found they are

not always sustained responders, but most are.

I dunno what tests you are thinking of to get before stopping

treatment. Your doc should be doing periodic CBC and a pcr when you

finish treatment.

Hope that helps

alley

> Thank you for your response. I too feel like I should stay on

longer.

> I suppose the real test will be when I come off the medicinne to

see

> if it will stay away. Does anybody know what the chances are of

> this?? I am a genotype 2b and also can anyone think of any other

> tests I should be getting b4 getting off medicinne. What are the

> chances of this coming back?? From the beginning my enzymes went

> normal when I ws tested @ 6 weeks and the viral load wsn't done

until

> 7 months. I started @ greater than 850,000. Thanks

[Guest guest]

i am assuming when you gave your viral load at 850000 you meant IU,

not copies. I don't think the IU's test higher than 850000 cuz mine

is that too.

Genotype 2's usually, tho not always, do 6 mo of treatment. They are

easier to get into remission, however, my gastro has found they are

not always sustained responders, but most are.

I dunno what tests you are thinking of to get before stopping

treatment. Your doc should be doing periodic CBC and a pcr when you

finish treatment.

Hope that helps

alley

> Thank you for your response. I too feel like I should stay on

longer.

> I suppose the real test will be when I come off the medicinne to

see

> if it will stay away. Does anybody know what the chances are of

> this?? I am a genotype 2b and also can anyone think of any other

> tests I should be getting b4 getting off medicinne. What are the

> chances of this coming back?? From the beginning my enzymes went

> normal when I ws tested @ 6 weeks and the viral load wsn't done

until

> 7 months. I started @ greater than 850,000. Thanks

[Guest guest]

Cher....I think you're doing very good....being a 2b geno....you really

lucked out. I think you'll remain undetected.

Carol

runabout_104 wrote:

> Thank you for your response. I too feel like I should stay on longer.

>

> I suppose the real test will be when I come off the medicinne to see

> if it will stay away. Does anybody know what the chances are of

> this?? I am a genotype 2b and also can anyone think of any other

> tests I should be getting b4 getting off medicinne. What are the

> chances of this coming back?? From the beginning my enzymes went

> normal when I ws tested @ 6 weeks and the viral load wsn't done until

> 7 months. I started @ greater than 850,000. Thanks

>

>

>