Guest guest Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Hi Laurie Thank you so much .... it really helps to hear that others are or have experienced some of the same symptoms ..... I can't wait to get back to walking again as I love it but like you said I don't want to push myself too much just yet. The healing is more important at this time. I know I've had this candida for a long time and it will take time to get it better. I heard it takes a month for each year that you have had it. I have to be patient I guess and keep at it. My big problem is the carbs as I love a piece of toast for breakfast. I've been having a piece, no yeast and no sugar bread for my breakfast and I hope it hasn't caused too much problems. The ND told me it was ok as long as the carbs are kept to 50 grms a day. Seems some say yes and some say no carbs at all. It's so confusing knowing what the correct information is. God Bless and good luck Maddy lauriej9541 <lauriej9541@...> wrote: Hi Maddy I got terrible joint pain months after I started this program, in my hands and I was stiff if I sat for too long as well as when I got up in the morning. This lasted off and on about a year I think. But it eventually went away as I healed and I rarely experience it now. I go for long walks each day but when I first began this program I became weak and was quite tired. That was partly due to switching over from carbs to fats and also just being underweight. I exercised only as much as I could tolerate and built up again as I became stronger. I can now walk 3 km, garden and ride my bike a bit too on days when I am more energetic. But you must be patient and not push your body while it is healing or you will pay for it. You will heal and get back to exercising when your body is ready. Take it slow and heal first. I hope this helps. Laurie > It's very common for this to happen. For instance, I quit drinking > beer (I was up to 6-8 beers per day) and smoking (one pack per day for > 18 years) COLD TURKEY after a spiritual fast in 2001. After decades of > treating my body wrong, and having the goal of getting spritually and > physically healthy, I decided to DO IT! I started jogging even. I > noticed within 2 days that all my joints were aching and I was overcome > with fatigue. I also still felt hungover every morning. Within a > month of investigating, I discovered that I had been feeding my candida > with beer for many years... which I had always had, but had become much > worse since a couple of rounds of strong antibiotics in 1998. When I > cut off the yeast's food supply, it IMMEDIATELY introduced itself to me > in a strong way! I started an anti-candida program for 5 months. I > was very strict and lost down to 122 pounds from 160. But the diet > didn't work, because it wasn't THIS one. > > As Bee often says, it gets worse before it gets better. But to really > get better, you'll have to get on the program (diet and supplements) > 100% and not " tweak it " to suit your cravings. Sure... gradually get > on it over the period of a month. But do get on it. > > Doug > > I > > would think that symptoms would get better instead of worse as there > > is less in my system to feed it, so why is this happening? How long > > will it go on for, and what can I do to keep from doing the hokey > > pokey all day? I am a teacher and I spend the whole day with > > people's full attention focussed on me. > > > > Thanks and best regards to all, > > Frances > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 > > I've been eating a piece of no yeast and no sugar bread ..... I hope it hasn't caused too much problems .... I like a piece of toast for my breakfast Hi there...we would all like a piece of toast with breakfast but wheats & grains & bread are not allowed. Take care. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Hi, I had 5 years of recurrent ankle,knee and wrist pains due to candida and some nights would not be able to sleep at all. The pains were initially just at night and in the mornings but then became 24 hours. All my rheumatology tests were negative (because I had candidiasis - something most rheumatologists know nothing about) and the only thing that fixed me was a low carb diet and natural antifungals. Good luck Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 > > Hi, everyone! > > I have been lurking for some time now, but I've never written. I am > a carb addict from way back. But I have a bad candida problem that > manifests itself in my stool and vaginally (Sorry I have to discuss > this but....I am at a loss to know what to do.) > > I have made several attempts to get rid of the carbs with no > success. This time I am doing it slowly. I have gotten off coffee > and sugar, but still have some tea. I only have one serving of carbs > per day. > > Here is my problem and my dilemma. Whenever I get pretty close to > cleaning up the carbs, my vaginal candida gets really bad. I get > very dry and I itch so bad it's tormenting me something awful. This > has also happened whenever I have tried to take a probiotic, no > matter how small the dose. > > I am in a lot of pain right now and I don't know what to do. I > would think that symptoms would get better instead of worse as there > is less in my system to feed it, so why is this happening? How long > will it go on for, and what can I do to keep from doing the hokey > pokey all day? I am a teacher and I spend the whole day with > people's full attention focussed on me. > > Thanks and best regards to all, > Frances > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 i had a similar problem sometime ago all i did was to sit on a warm water with salt content at most a one tablespoon full though it depend on the quantity of water and the itching stoped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 > > Hi Laurie > > Thank you so much .... it really helps to hear that others are or have experienced some of the same symptoms ..... I can't wait to get back to walking again as I love it but like you said I don't want to push myself too much just yet. The healing is more important at this time. I know I've had this candida for a long time and it will take time to get it better. I heard it takes a month for each year that you have had it. I have to be patient I guess and keep at it. My big problem is the carbs as I love a piece of toast for breakfast. I've been having a piece, no yeast and no sugar bread for my breakfast and I hope it hasn't caused too much problems. The ND told me it was ok as long as the carbs are kept to 50 grms a day. Seems some say yes and some say no carbs at all. It's so confusing knowing what the correct information is. ==>Hi Maddy. It isn't the amount of carbs, as much as it is the " type of carbs. " I suggest you re-read the section on carbs and grains in my main candida article " How to Successfully Overcome Candida " : http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s20 http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s21 The best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 Hi Frances. This is the 2nd time you have posted the same message, which I answered in Message #54469. Bee > > > > Hi, everyone! > > > > I have been lurking for some time now, but I've never written. I > am > > a carb addict from way back. But I have a bad candida problem that > > manifests itself in my stool and vaginally (Sorry I have to discuss > > this but....I am at a loss to know what to do.) > > > > I have made several attempts to get rid of the carbs with no > > success. This time I am doing it slowly. I have gotten off coffee > > and sugar, but still have some tea. I only have one serving of > carbs > > per day. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 > ==>It is much more efficient to get energy from the " good " fats on my > program than from carbs. 58% of protein and 10% of fats turn into > glucose inside the body providing all the blood sugar requirements > needed. Good fats also do not utilize so much energy, enzymes, etc. > like carbs do in order to be digested and utilized. Fats like > coconut oil do not even need stomach acid, digestive enzymes or bile in order for it to be absorbed and utilized in the body. They go out of the digestive system through the lymphatic system directly into the blood stream. > Bee, doesn't it also take a little bit for the body to adjust to using the good fats and stop depending on carbs for its energy. At the beginning for me, I was hungry much of the time, but before too long I could tell my body was responding to the fats better for energy, and NO blood sugar problems, no more feeling weak. Good fats are best! Sincerely, Jana > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 > Bee, doesn't it also take a little bit for the body to adjust to > using the good fats and stop depending on carbs for its energy. At > the beginning for me, I was hungry much of the time, but before too > long I could tell my body was responding to the fats better for > energy, and NO blood sugar problems, no more feeling weak. Good fats > are best! ==>Yes Jana. It does take time for the body to adjust its energy source from carbs to good fats. That is a very good point to remember for those who are hungry and/or craving carbs. That's wonderful you're stabilized on good fats now! Good for you Jana! The best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Hi, First I'm so sorry to hear surgery didn't help! I had the same surgery at the same level over 2 years ago and I'm still in pain also. Now though I have so many more pain conditions going on; fibromyalia, neck, migraines, ect. When I first started having back problems I thought I had to do whatever the Dr's told me; I assumed they knew best, knew when I needed surgery, ect. Well after a 2 1/2 year battle with pain I have come to realize that we don't have to have surgery and in fact spine surgery is rarely successfull long term. We don't have to have all of the injections they offer; they only help 30% of people and within that 30% are people who have had pain less then 6 months. I have had ESI's, facet joint injections, SI joint injections, the RACZ procedure, spinal cord stimulator and not 1 helped me; almost everyone caused me more pain after. Some people do get relief from these procedures but then it's so short lived. I know that desperate feeling of needing something to work and trying anything in the hopes that it will help. I also know too well the despair when whatever was done didn't help. I'm a single mom to 3 boys; my youngest was almost 2 when I had my surgery and was only 15 months when I started having back/leg pain. I know how hard it is to take care of your kids when you hurt so. Sorry for the long email but please really research these procedures offered and know you don't have to have another surgery. I wish you the very best in your search back to your " normal life " ! Hugs, > > > Just had spinal disectomy L5 -S1 two months ago stayed in pain then an > mri was ordered to find out I have a reherniated disc. I have a > epidural scheduled next week that didnt work the first time and sent me > to surgey 3whats up is this normal will I need another surgery. > frustrated , in pain and depressed and my children 7 and2 are getting > the brunt of it all. any advice helpful tips much appreciated. > > > > Kjmacmason > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Hi, First I'm so sorry to hear surgery didn't help! I had the same surgery at the same level over 2 years ago and I'm still in pain also. Now though I have so many more pain conditions going on; fibromyalia, neck, migraines, ect. When I first started having back problems I thought I had to do whatever the Dr's told me; I assumed they knew best, knew when I needed surgery, ect. Well after a 2 1/2 year battle with pain I have come to realize that we don't have to have surgery and in fact spine surgery is rarely successfull long term. We don't have to have all of the injections they offer; they only help 30% of people and within that 30% are people who have had pain less then 6 months. I have had ESI's, facet joint injections, SI joint injections, the RACZ procedure, spinal cord stimulator and not 1 helped me; almost everyone caused me more pain after. Some people do get relief from these procedures but then it's so short lived. I know that desperate feeling of needing something to work and trying anything in the hopes that it will help. I also know too well the despair when whatever was done didn't help. I'm a single mom to 3 boys; my youngest was almost 2 when I had my surgery and was only 15 months when I started having back/leg pain. I know how hard it is to take care of your kids when you hurt so. Sorry for the long email but please really research these procedures offered and know you don't have to have another surgery. I wish you the very best in your search back to your " normal life " ! Hugs, > > > Just had spinal disectomy L5 -S1 two months ago stayed in pain then an > mri was ordered to find out I have a reherniated disc. I have a > epidural scheduled next week that didnt work the first time and sent me > to surgey 3whats up is this normal will I need another surgery. > frustrated , in pain and depressed and my children 7 and2 are getting > the brunt of it all. any advice helpful tips much appreciated. > > > > Kjmacmason > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 > > > > > > Just had spinal disectomy L5 -S1 two months ago stayed in pain then > an > > mri was ordered to find out I have a reherniated disc. I have a > > epidural scheduled next week that didnt work the first time and > sent me > > to surgey 3whats up is this normal will I need another surgery. > > frustrated , in pain and depressed and my children 7 and2 are > getting > > the brunt of it all. any advice helpful tips much appreciated. > > > > > > > > Kjmacmason > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 > > > > > > Just had spinal disectomy L5 -S1 two months ago stayed in pain then > an > > mri was ordered to find out I have a reherniated disc. I have a > > epidural scheduled next week that didnt work the first time and > sent me > > to surgey 3whats up is this normal will I need another surgery. > > frustrated , in pain and depressed and my children 7 and2 are > getting > > the brunt of it all. any advice helpful tips much appreciated. > > > > > > > > Kjmacmason > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 At 12:18 PM 7/3/2008, you wrote: >Just had spinal disectomy L5 -S1 two months ago stayed in pain then an >mri was ordered to find out I have a reherniated disc. I have a >epidural scheduled next week that didnt work the first time and sent me >to surgey 3whats up is this normal I'm sorry to hear of your experience. I have this area in my back fused. In fact it was done 2x. Once very successfully in 1987, and the second time not so good in 2000. Since my 2 surgeries of 2000, one for the lower back and one for my neck, I've been in chronic pain. I've tried everything for relief. I've been to every type of pain management, physical therapy, injections, acupuncture, healing services, you name it. Nothing has provided long term relief. I have a wonderful primary care physician who provides me with pain management through narcotics like Vicoden, muscle relaxers, and nerve pain medicine. I also see a psychiatrist who helps with depression. The Doctors work together and it took some time before they found the right combination of medicines. These also have to be changed over time since we build up a tolerance and they are less effective. I also use Ice packs every night and sometimes during the day. My Wife gives me massage at night before bed with a hand held percussion massager made by Homemedco. A TENS stimulator and a back brace may be of help also. I also have a massage matt, and After my second surgery, my Wife bought me a La-Z_Boy recliner with heat and massage. This is where I went when I couldn't stand it anymore. I usually ended up sleeping there. I've used that chair so much, I wore it out. We are using our economic stimulus check to replace it. I was lucky not to have little ones to care for. At the time my Daughter was in 9th grade. But my Wife and I did have our own business. We owned a photo portrait studio. There was no workmens comp so I had to work in order to survived. When I couldn't do it anymore we closed our doors in 2005 and I filed for disability. We moved in with my mother-in-law, and my wife got employment on her own. I hope that your story works out better. As you read the stories here, you may think that most back surgeries fail. But those of us that are here, got here because we are experiencing some sort of pain. If your back experience was a great success, then your not attracted to this board. Welcome, Dave. Reading, PA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 At 12:18 PM 7/3/2008, you wrote: >Just had spinal disectomy L5 -S1 two months ago stayed in pain then an >mri was ordered to find out I have a reherniated disc. I have a >epidural scheduled next week that didnt work the first time and sent me >to surgey 3whats up is this normal I'm sorry to hear of your experience. I have this area in my back fused. In fact it was done 2x. Once very successfully in 1987, and the second time not so good in 2000. Since my 2 surgeries of 2000, one for the lower back and one for my neck, I've been in chronic pain. I've tried everything for relief. I've been to every type of pain management, physical therapy, injections, acupuncture, healing services, you name it. Nothing has provided long term relief. I have a wonderful primary care physician who provides me with pain management through narcotics like Vicoden, muscle relaxers, and nerve pain medicine. I also see a psychiatrist who helps with depression. The Doctors work together and it took some time before they found the right combination of medicines. These also have to be changed over time since we build up a tolerance and they are less effective. I also use Ice packs every night and sometimes during the day. My Wife gives me massage at night before bed with a hand held percussion massager made by Homemedco. A TENS stimulator and a back brace may be of help also. I also have a massage matt, and After my second surgery, my Wife bought me a La-Z_Boy recliner with heat and massage. This is where I went when I couldn't stand it anymore. I usually ended up sleeping there. I've used that chair so much, I wore it out. We are using our economic stimulus check to replace it. I was lucky not to have little ones to care for. At the time my Daughter was in 9th grade. But my Wife and I did have our own business. We owned a photo portrait studio. There was no workmens comp so I had to work in order to survived. When I couldn't do it anymore we closed our doors in 2005 and I filed for disability. We moved in with my mother-in-law, and my wife got employment on her own. I hope that your story works out better. As you read the stories here, you may think that most back surgeries fail. But those of us that are here, got here because we are experiencing some sort of pain. If your back experience was a great success, then your not attracted to this board. Welcome, Dave. Reading, PA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Hi Dave I was interested to read your history- I have not had surgery and yet my regime of steady downhill back pain getting worse since a massive back spasm in 2003. I too ice all the time, often go to bed with ice. Working with a psych to help with the dark moods that accompany this disability as well as a physiatrist for pain management. Have had numerous epidurals and the last several have not worked. More foot pain. Been 5 years now and seems to be just getting worse. I was just prescribed Neurontin, which I didnt want to take but now it seems like I have to try it. I am 44 years old and thank goodness no little ones to take care of either as I think I would be beyond broke down at this pt. Contemplating surgery at some point as Im feeling like I already have chronic pain every single day.... whats to loose.... wendy Re: need advice At 12:18 PM 7/3/2008, you wrote: >Just had spinal disectomy L5 -S1 two months ago stayed in pain then an >mri was ordered to find out I have a reherniated disc. I have a >epidural scheduled next week that didnt work the first time and sent me >to surgey 3whats up is this normal I'm sorry to hear of your experience. I have this area in my back fused. In fact it was done 2x. Once very successfully in 1987, and the second time not so good in 2000. Since my 2 surgeries of 2000, one for the lower back and one for my neck, I've been in chronic pain. I've tried everything for relief. I've been to every type of pain management, physical therapy, injections, acupuncture, healing services, you name it. Nothing has provided long term relief. I have a wonderful primary care physician who provides me with pain management through narcotics like Vicoden, muscle relaxers, and nerve pain medicine. I also see a psychiatrist who helps with depression. The Doctors work together and it took some time before they found the right combination of medicines. These also have to be changed over time since we build up a tolerance and they are less effective. I also use Ice packs every night and sometimes during the day. My Wife gives me massage at night before bed with a hand held percussion massager made by Homemedco. A TENS stimulator and a back brace may be of help also. I also have a massage matt, and After my second surgery, my Wife bought me a La-Z_Boy recliner with heat and massage. This is where I went when I couldn't stand it anymore. I usually ended up sleeping there. I've used that chair so much, I wore it out. We are using our economic stimulus check to replace it. I was lucky not to have little ones to care for. At the time my Daughter was in 9th grade. But my Wife and I did have our own business. We owned a photo portrait studio. There was no workmens comp so I had to work in order to survived. When I couldn't do it anymore we closed our doors in 2005 and I filed for disability. We moved in with my mother-in-law, and my wife got employment on her own. I hope that your story works out better. As you read the stories here, you may think that most back surgeries fail. But those of us that are here, got here because we are experiencing some sort of pain. If your back experience was a great success, then your not attracted to this board. Welcome, Dave. Reading, PA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Hi Dave I was interested to read your history- I have not had surgery and yet my regime of steady downhill back pain getting worse since a massive back spasm in 2003. I too ice all the time, often go to bed with ice. Working with a psych to help with the dark moods that accompany this disability as well as a physiatrist for pain management. Have had numerous epidurals and the last several have not worked. More foot pain. Been 5 years now and seems to be just getting worse. I was just prescribed Neurontin, which I didnt want to take but now it seems like I have to try it. I am 44 years old and thank goodness no little ones to take care of either as I think I would be beyond broke down at this pt. Contemplating surgery at some point as Im feeling like I already have chronic pain every single day.... whats to loose.... wendy Re: need advice At 12:18 PM 7/3/2008, you wrote: >Just had spinal disectomy L5 -S1 two months ago stayed in pain then an >mri was ordered to find out I have a reherniated disc. I have a >epidural scheduled next week that didnt work the first time and sent me >to surgey 3whats up is this normal I'm sorry to hear of your experience. I have this area in my back fused. In fact it was done 2x. Once very successfully in 1987, and the second time not so good in 2000. Since my 2 surgeries of 2000, one for the lower back and one for my neck, I've been in chronic pain. I've tried everything for relief. I've been to every type of pain management, physical therapy, injections, acupuncture, healing services, you name it. Nothing has provided long term relief. I have a wonderful primary care physician who provides me with pain management through narcotics like Vicoden, muscle relaxers, and nerve pain medicine. I also see a psychiatrist who helps with depression. The Doctors work together and it took some time before they found the right combination of medicines. These also have to be changed over time since we build up a tolerance and they are less effective. I also use Ice packs every night and sometimes during the day. My Wife gives me massage at night before bed with a hand held percussion massager made by Homemedco. A TENS stimulator and a back brace may be of help also. I also have a massage matt, and After my second surgery, my Wife bought me a La-Z_Boy recliner with heat and massage. This is where I went when I couldn't stand it anymore. I usually ended up sleeping there. I've used that chair so much, I wore it out. We are using our economic stimulus check to replace it. I was lucky not to have little ones to care for. At the time my Daughter was in 9th grade. But my Wife and I did have our own business. We owned a photo portrait studio. There was no workmens comp so I had to work in order to survived. When I couldn't do it anymore we closed our doors in 2005 and I filed for disability. We moved in with my mother-in-law, and my wife got employment on her own. I hope that your story works out better. As you read the stories here, you may think that most back surgeries fail. But those of us that are here, got here because we are experiencing some sort of pain. If your back experience was a great success, then your not attracted to this board. Welcome, Dave. Reading, PA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 At 10:56 PM 7/7/2008, you wrote: >I was just prescribed Neurontin, which I didnt want to take but now >it seems like I have to try it. I was on Neurontin for nerve pain. I couldn't take it. It was like speed for me. My Wife and helpers at the studio knew when I took it, and didn't like me on it. I now take Depakote for nerve pain. >I am 44 years old and thank goodness no little ones to take care of >either as I think I would be beyond broke down at this pt. > >wendy I'm 47. When we had our studio clients always commented on my patience and caring for children and babies. Today with my Chronic pain and chronic sleep depravation I have little or no patience for unruly children. I'm generally on my last nerve or doing all I can to stay awake. 24 x 7 pain and meds do that to you. I thank God my " Child " is 23. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 At 10:56 PM 7/7/2008, you wrote: >I was just prescribed Neurontin, which I didnt want to take but now >it seems like I have to try it. I was on Neurontin for nerve pain. I couldn't take it. It was like speed for me. My Wife and helpers at the studio knew when I took it, and didn't like me on it. I now take Depakote for nerve pain. >I am 44 years old and thank goodness no little ones to take care of >either as I think I would be beyond broke down at this pt. > >wendy I'm 47. When we had our studio clients always commented on my patience and caring for children and babies. Today with my Chronic pain and chronic sleep depravation I have little or no patience for unruly children. I'm generally on my last nerve or doing all I can to stay awake. 24 x 7 pain and meds do that to you. I thank God my " Child " is 23. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Hi , I am also 44, no kids - only lots of furry ones and that's enough! I have both cervical and lumbar problems and the constant pain is surely enough to make me feel crazy most of the time! Just wanted to add to your and Dave's conversation regarding the Neurontin and Depakote. I have tried both without good results, I remember the Depakote made me a total space case (worse than usual!) & didn't help with my pain so I had to discontinue it, and the Neurontin didn't work out for me either although I cannot remember the specifics of what was wrong with it besides it not helping the pain go away. I went a long time with the pain just getting worse and worse and finally I tried Lyrica. I take that three times a day and that one works real good for nerve pain associated with spinal injuries as well as advertised for fibromyalgia now too. Everyone reacts different to different medications like this, so don't lose hope...one might work for you as well, it's just a matter of trying. I think this has kept me from having surgery on my lumbar (already had cervical fusion) up til now. Best wishes!!! Debbie > > > >I was just prescribed Neurontin, which I didnt want to take but now > >it seems like I have to try it. > > I was on Neurontin for nerve pain. I couldn't take it. It was like > speed for me. My Wife and helpers at the studio knew when I took it, > and didn't like me on it. I now take Depakote for nerve pain. > > > >I am 44 years old and thank goodness no little ones to take care of > >either as I think I would be beyond broke down at this pt. > > > >wendy > > I'm 47. When we had our studio clients always commented on my > patience and caring for children and babies. Today with my Chronic > pain and chronic sleep depravation I have little or no patience for > unruly children. I'm generally on my last nerve or doing all I can > to stay awake. 24 x 7 pain and meds do that to you. I thank God my > " Child " is 23. Dave > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Hi , I am also 44, no kids - only lots of furry ones and that's enough! I have both cervical and lumbar problems and the constant pain is surely enough to make me feel crazy most of the time! Just wanted to add to your and Dave's conversation regarding the Neurontin and Depakote. I have tried both without good results, I remember the Depakote made me a total space case (worse than usual!) & didn't help with my pain so I had to discontinue it, and the Neurontin didn't work out for me either although I cannot remember the specifics of what was wrong with it besides it not helping the pain go away. I went a long time with the pain just getting worse and worse and finally I tried Lyrica. I take that three times a day and that one works real good for nerve pain associated with spinal injuries as well as advertised for fibromyalgia now too. Everyone reacts different to different medications like this, so don't lose hope...one might work for you as well, it's just a matter of trying. I think this has kept me from having surgery on my lumbar (already had cervical fusion) up til now. Best wishes!!! Debbie > > > >I was just prescribed Neurontin, which I didnt want to take but now > >it seems like I have to try it. > > I was on Neurontin for nerve pain. I couldn't take it. It was like > speed for me. My Wife and helpers at the studio knew when I took it, > and didn't like me on it. I now take Depakote for nerve pain. > > > >I am 44 years old and thank goodness no little ones to take care of > >either as I think I would be beyond broke down at this pt. > > > >wendy > > I'm 47. When we had our studio clients always commented on my > patience and caring for children and babies. Today with my Chronic > pain and chronic sleep depravation I have little or no patience for > unruly children. I'm generally on my last nerve or doing all I can > to stay awake. 24 x 7 pain and meds do that to you. I thank God my > " Child " is 23. Dave > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Hello, I am in the same boat pretty much, had a L1/L2 discectomy three months ago and have the nerve pain and weakness in my right leg back again as bad as before the surgery. Saw the surgeon and he put me on Lyrica for that which has helped, also started physical therapy, after the 1st one wanted to curl up somewhere and die as the exercises where not hard but sure suffered after. See him in 2 weeks and he wants to do an mri then if its no better. Last appointment he was disappointed as he thought I would be better, he thinks it may be scar tissue so what am I supposed to do have another surgery to fix the problems from the 1st one. Is so frustrating, Hubby asked why I was so grumpy last night, its so hard trying to do stuff and you can't because of pain. I have 3 kids at home and they help at lot but that is not fair on them. Still having problems coming to terms that I can no longer do things as I did before, but being stubborn I try and then suffer. My back is pretty much done for the day by lunchtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Hello, I am in the same boat pretty much, had a L1/L2 discectomy three months ago and have the nerve pain and weakness in my right leg back again as bad as before the surgery. Saw the surgeon and he put me on Lyrica for that which has helped, also started physical therapy, after the 1st one wanted to curl up somewhere and die as the exercises where not hard but sure suffered after. See him in 2 weeks and he wants to do an mri then if its no better. Last appointment he was disappointed as he thought I would be better, he thinks it may be scar tissue so what am I supposed to do have another surgery to fix the problems from the 1st one. Is so frustrating, Hubby asked why I was so grumpy last night, its so hard trying to do stuff and you can't because of pain. I have 3 kids at home and they help at lot but that is not fair on them. Still having problems coming to terms that I can no longer do things as I did before, but being stubborn I try and then suffer. My back is pretty much done for the day by lunchtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Debbie, My husband is on Depakote for his bipolar condition, although I did read in the paperwork that comes with it that it can also help with pain. My husband has a lot of back and leg pain, he takes an opiate to help with that, Depakote does nothing for that pain, however, it has done wonders for the bipolar. you're the first person I know of who has been given Depakote for pain! He also has been given Lyrica for nerve pain-I had Neurontin, it didn't work, and when I went off of it, went through severe withdrawal. They're kinda in the same family of drugs, like Xanax and Valium are similiar also, some do better on one than the other. I guess we're always going to be looking for something that gives us consistant pain relief. I'm going to Curves now to see if that can build up my strength-my insurance pays the whole membership price, which is totally weird, I've never had insurance that pays for a gym membership. I'm just in my first week, my lower back is sore, as are my knees. I told my pain dr. i need to see an ortho dr. again, as I've had both knees replaced, and still have pain. I'll have to juggle that into my schedule somewhere. I'm trying to go all year without having to go in the hospital. Hope everything works out that you can stay surgery free.  Jeannie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Jeannie, I too take Depakote for bipolar and have been on it for 20 years. It requires a blood level draw from time to time as I am sure you know. I know of several people that have been on it for chronic pain. It can also add a significant weight gain if you are not careful. Take care, Annie A poet is, after all, to see From: Abbott <jeannieboo1@...> Subject: Re: Re: need advice neck pain Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:53 AM Debbie, My husband is on Depakote for his bipolar condition, although I did read in the paperwork that comes with it that it can also help with pain. My husband has a lot of back and leg pain, he takes an opiate to help with that, Depakote does nothing for that pain, however, it has done wonders for the bipolar. you're the first person I know of who has been given Depakote for pain! He also has been given Lyrica for nerve pain-I had Neurontin, it didn't work, and when I went off of it, went through severe withdrawal. They're kinda in the same family of drugs, like Xanax and Valium are similiar also, some do better on one than the other. I guess we're always going to be looking for something that gives us consistant pain relief. I'm going to Curves now to see if that can build up my strength-my insurance pays the whole membership price, which is totally weird, I've never had insurance that pays for a gym membership. I'm just in my first week, my lower back is sore, as are my knees. I told my pain dr. i need to see an ortho dr. again, as I've had both knees replaced, and still have pain. I'll have to juggle that into my schedule somewhere. I'm trying to go all year without having to go in the hospital. Hope everything works out that you can stay surgery free.  Jeannie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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