Guest guest Posted July 15, 2000 Report Share Posted July 15, 2000 Hi All, Only a few minutes to write & I have much more info on this topic to share, but our holistic gave us a hand-out on magnesium yesterday & , of course, when reading it, lymies were at the forefront of my mind... Seems this doc that wrote the article is certain that heart attacks, irregular heartbeats, muscle cramping, etc. are all caused by magnesium deficiency - which, incidentally, he believes is caused in many American diets by too high of a calcium intake. Have a wonderful day all & I hope this is helpful! Blessings, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2000 Report Share Posted July 15, 2000 Hi All, \ I used to take the Slo-Mag recommended by Dr. B when I first got lyme, it really helped. Now I take a cheleated magnesium done by the Albion Method, (haven't a clue why, but was told it works well) Anyway, when I am super tired, immune system is down, lyme is bad and my arms and legs are flying all over the place when I lay down, i head for the magnesium. I was told that any infection just drains your system of mag. It works for me. Just my thought, Hugs to all Connie, MI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2000 Report Share Posted July 15, 2000 On Sat, 15 Jul 2000 Dobelovr11@... wrote: > Hi All, > > Only a few minutes to write & I have much more info on this topic to share, > but our holistic gave us a hand-out on magnesium yesterday & , of course, when > reading it, lymies were at the forefront of my mind... > > Seems this doc that wrote the article is certain that heart attacks, > irregular heartbeats, muscle cramping, etc. are all caused by magnesium > deficiency - which, incidentally, he believes is caused in many American > diets by too high of a calcium intake. > > Have a wonderful day all & I hope this is helpful! > > Blessings, > > Chris *** Very interesting Chris: I just called my LLMD a couple of weeks ago as I was beginning to get more leg cramps (at night especially). I have also had rapid heart and irregular heart (especially during herx.) althought my call was not about that. The LLMD immediately told me to get from my Pharmacist: " Magonate Liquid " - Magnesium Deitary Supplement. of which I take 3 tsp./day on any empty stomach, as indicated on the container. I began to improve right away (thank God and the Dr.) as I don't particularly like leg-cramps. (Bye the way: he said specifically NOT to take Potassium - too little/much P. is not good for the heart - as I used to take P. for leg cramps!) I will have to see if this seems to be helping with my cardiac symptoms as well. -Thanks for the interesting post: -Glen Wolfsen (in beautiful NJ) You, O God, keep my lamp burning; my God turns my darkness into light. Psalm 18:28 ------------------------------------------ wolfsen@... http://www.eclipse.net/~wolfsen/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2000 Report Share Posted July 16, 2000 Hi , When I took the Slo-Mag, I took 3 a day, can't remember the mgs. You can find a bottle for about $9-13 in the drugstore, sometims you have to ask for it. It really worked for me during those bad herx's. One thing you have to do is take it reagularly so the levels stay in you bloodstream. Some of the lymepatients here take magnesium shots every 3-4 days, but they feel bad a day or so before their shot is due. I just use orals. I sometimes take 400 mgs a day. But ususally now only when I herx or everything is jumping and twitching. Good Luck, Connie, MI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2000 Report Share Posted July 16, 2000 Dear Glen, Thanks for sharing info! The article I read also stated that many Americans ( & others who consume dairy foods in any appreciable quantity) tend to be low in magnesium because the excess calcium depletes the magnesium. Other things that deplete magnesium are coffee & sugar, according to the author. Blessings, Chris In a message dated 07/15/2000 8:55:12 AM Central Daylight Time, wolfsen@... writes: << The LLMD immediately told me to get from my Pharmacist: " Magonate Liquid " - Magnesium Deitary Supplement. of which I take 3 tsp./day on any empty stomach, as indicated on the container. I began to improve right away (thank God and the Dr.) as I don't particularly like leg-cramps. (Bye the way: he said specifically NOT to take Potassium - too little/much P. is not good for the heart - as I used to take P. for leg cramps!) >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2000 Report Share Posted July 17, 2000 On Sun, 16 Jul 2000 Dobelovr11@... wrote: > Dear Glen, > > Thanks for sharing info! (***) It is my pleasure to share - I find that sharing (in however humble a form) is an important part of my life . . and that the Internet is important for we who are not as mobile as we would like to be. I have more limited mobility than most as I also take care of my wife who has MS and doesn't remember where I am if I leave the house for more than a short amount of time. [ In fact, her MS is what got me started on the " net " - building a humble web-page so I wouldn't have to remember MS-URL's; and then it just expanded from there (!) ] [ Little did I know that I myself, would now be using the net for sharing, but also about <LYME>!!!, and then trying to add a section of LYME resources for our local folks who look at the page wil find something hopefully worthwhile (?!) ] > > The article I read also stated that many Americans ( & others who consume > dairy foods in any appreciable quantity) tend to be low in magnesium because > the excess calcium depletes the magnesium. Other things that deplete > magnesium are coffee & sugar, according to the author. > ++++ YES: No coffie, sugar, alcohol, hot pepper (shucks) for me!! *BUT* - I am taking (on order of my LLMD) Osteosheild Bone Building Complex with 1221 mg calcium + 600 mg magnesium + 1.7 mg manganese (+ other stuff) - thus I suspect I needed additional magnesium as per below. > Blessings, > > Chris > Peace and Joy to you: thankx for writing - Glen Wolfsen (from Hot wet humid New Jersey) - just what I need!!! > In a message dated 07/15/2000 8:55:12 AM Central Daylight Time, > wolfsen@... writes: > > << The LLMD immediately told me to get from my Pharmacist: > > " Magonate Liquid " - Magnesium Deitary Supplement. > > of which I take 3 tsp./day on any empty stomach, as indicated on the > container. I began to improve right away (thank God and the Dr.) as I > don't particularly like leg-cramps. (Bye the way: he said specifically > NOT to take Potassium - too little/much P. is not good for the heart - as > I used to take P. for leg cramps!) >> > To the faithful you show yourself faithful, to the blameless you show yourself blameless, to the pure you show yourself pure, but to the crooked you show yourself schrewd. Psalm 18:25-26. wolfsen@... http://www.eclipse.net/~wolfsen/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2000 Report Share Posted October 4, 2000 Hi ; How many do you take and how many are in the bottle? thank you hugs, lea > I take the brand " Slow Mag " for magnesium. Each tablet is 64mg of magnesium > Chloride. It releases slowly, and does not upset my stomach, like so many > other magnesium pills did. It comes with 212 mg of calcium in each tablet. > > I take the recommened dosage of two tablets and my restless legs have > stopped > for the most part. If I am on my feet too much, one day, then i still get > the trembles at night. > > It costs $9.99 a bottle and most pharmacies carry it. For some reason, many > keep it behind the counter. It is manufactured in France, but is > distributed > by the Company, just in case you need to know the company. > > ~ Sussex Co. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2001 Report Share Posted March 23, 2001 In a message dated 3/23/01 7:28:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, fcunsrial1@... writes: << Magnesium also acts a mild stimulant to intestinal peristalsis. Try 200 mg in divided doses and increase until you begin to get loose stools, then back off. Do not exceed 800 mg in adults 400 in children. >> Does it matter if magnesium is mixed into her food? I know some things should be taken on an empty stomach which in our case would be nearly impossible. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 Hi , Try magnesium citrate alone or mixed with food. Buy one with 100 mg or so of elemental magnesium and start slowly and every three days or so increase until loose bowels begin. Back off slowly until you get the correct amount. Magnesium and calcium taken before going to bed will help the quality of sleep. Make sure the Calcium is also citrate or some other chelated form and vit D added. Warm regards. Dillr@... wrote: > In a message dated 3/23/01 7:28:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, > fcunsrial1@... writes: > > << > Magnesium also acts a mild stimulant to intestinal peristalsis. Try 200 mg in > divided doses and increase until you begin to get loose stools, then back > off. Do > not exceed 800 mg in adults 400 in children. >> > > Does it matter if magnesium is mixed into her food? I know some things should > be taken on an empty stomach which in our case would be nearly impossible. > > Thank you > > > > _ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 In a message dated 3/24/01 8:20:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, fcunsrial1@... writes: << Hi , Try magnesium citrate alone or mixed with food. Buy one with 100 mg or so of elemental magnesium and start slowly >> We will try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 I just bought some " Lifes Greens with advanced probiotics " from vitamin world. Does anyone else use this? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2001 Report Share Posted April 14, 2001 , There are a lot of " abusers " out there that have no scruples in selling supplements at very high prices. There are several ways of presenting minerals to the body for absorption and one of the most researched is the so-called chelated minerals. These are minerals chemically bound to a molecule the body is very " familiar " with and thus easily to metabolize. Examples are ororates, citrates, aspartates, etc. They differ slightly in the degree of absorption and citrate is the most effective in terms of value per absorbed amount. others will tell you that ororates are more absorbed but they cost a a lot more. Rather than buying brands, choose a discount health food store in your area and shop for the generic Calcium/magnesium citrate. Seek a ratio of 2 calciums (i.e. 500 mg) for one (250 mg) of magnesium unless your health practitioner told you otherwise. Take the minerals at night. One final word about value. Some retailers will try to sell you , let's say calcium supplements and tell you that a given supplement has 1000 of calcium citrate. READ THE LABEL. Make sure that the 1000 mg ARE CALCIUM, not CALCIUM CITRATE. If the 1000 mg are expressed as CAlcium Citrate you are not getting 1000 mg of Calcium Technically the label should read...Calcium from Calcium citrate 1000 mg. If it does not read like that DO NOT BUY IT. Brands such as Solaray, Solgar, Twin labs, GNC, Olympian Labs, Country Life, etc are recommended. GNC has a second one for half the price policy and a day a month in which you can get 20% off in addition. I think you need to pay a small annual fee for this 20% off but the second one for half the price is on all the time, at least in Florida. Although there are not distinguished for their knowledge, I find their supplements to be ok IF YOU SHOP as I suggested. Wheat germ oil contains octacosanol in varying amounts. If you want to treat anyone with supplements you must know the amounts you area supplying. The amount of octacosanol is measured in minims and you can get as high as 20.000 minims per capsule. There are many other presentations mostly at 1000 to 5000 minims. Warm regards and sorry about the lecture. FCR Dillr@... wrote: > Here is a list of the ingredients in a calcium/magnesium supplements we are > considering on using. Does anyone see anything good or bad about this? > > =============== > > 11395 7.35 oz / 210 grams net wt $19.00 > > You are not what you eat; you are what you absorb. Even if you take several > calcium/magnesium tablets, if your body does not assimilate them, you will > not reap their benefits. > Enrich markets a unique calcium/magnesium powdered drink which is easily > blended with liquid and quickly absorbed by the body. This is the newest > technology, the leading edge of nutritional research and development. It is a > scientific fact that the amount of mineral absorbed is more important than > the quantity consumed. A mineral that is not absorbed cannot get into the > bones to strengthen them. So absorption is an important way of measuring the > benefits of calcium and magnesium. > > All calcium and magnesium is not absorbed at the same rate. For example: > > Inorganic calcium is absorbed at 17%.1 > > Chelated calcium is absorbed at 44%.1 (This means that the chelate, which is > calcium bound to an amino acid or protein, is almost three times as > absorbable as the inorganic mineral). > > Inorganic magnesium is absorbed at 16%.2 > > Organic magnesium is absorbed at 87%.2 (This means that the chelate, which is > magnesium bound to an amino acid or protein, is absorbed five times as much > as the inorganic mineral). > Facts: > > Calcium is essential to strong bones and may prevent osteoporosis. > > Magnesium assists in the body's absorption of calcium. > > Boron may retard bone loss.3 > > Together, boron, calcium, magnesium, and vitamin D help to prevent > osteoporosis.3 > 1. Heaney, R.P. MD., Creighton University, Calcified Tissue International, > 1990. > > 2. Graff, D. Weber State University, International Conference on Human > Nutrition, 1995. > > 3. Mindell, Earl. Vitamin Bible, 1991. > > Ingredients: Serving Size: 1 Teaspoon > Servings Per Container: 30 > Amount Per Serving % Daily Value > Vitamin D 80 IU 20% > Calcium (as calcium amino acid chelate) 318 mg 32% > Magnesium (as magnesium amino acid chelate) 176 mg 44% > Manganese (as manganese amino acid chelate) 7 mcg 0% > Boron (as boron amino acid chelate) 6 mcg ‡ > ‡ Daily Value not established. > Other Ingredients: Fructose, Methylcellulose, Malic acid, Citric acid, and > Peach flavor. > > Recommended Use: Take one rounded teaspoon daily in half cup of water or > juice. > > Due to our high standard for product, we have included a Pillowpak dessicant. > Please do not consume. > > > > ©2000 Enrich Corporation > All logo(s), trademark(s) and registered trademark(s > > > _ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2001 Report Share Posted April 16, 2001 <<<, There are a lot of "abusers" out there that have no scruples in selling supplements at very high prices. There are several ways of presenting minerals to the body for absorption and one of the most researched is the so-called chelated minerals>>>> Hi all, Can someone tell me if they have any experience with Cal-Mag Zinc in liquid form, from a Calif. company called Whole-Life, and if it's a beneficial Cal-Mag? Thank you again, Kandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2001 Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 Hi Kandy, Liquid minerals are very diluted and may not be enough for a Ca/Mg preparation. Depending on the age of the child, they may need up to 500/250 mg a day (depending on diet), and no liquid can provide that much. Some claim that because liquids are better absorbed, you need less.......Those do not understand the needs of epileptic brains. Stick to national brands of solid (pills, capsules) and always start with small doses and increase every few days to the suggested dose. Warm regards Cuns-Rial Kandylh3@... wrote: > > <<<, There are a lot of " abusers " out there that have no scruples > in > selling > supplements at very high prices. > There are several ways of presenting minerals to the body for > absorption and > one > of the most researched is the so-called chelated minerals>>>> > > > Hi all, > Can someone tell me if they have any experience with Cal-Mag Zinc in > liquid > form, from a Calif. company called Whole-Life, and if it's a > beneficial > Cal-Mag? > Thank you again, > Kandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2001 Report Share Posted October 3, 2001 Hi All, Here is a good Web Link on Magnesium http://www.theherbsplace.com/magnesium.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2002 Report Share Posted January 16, 2002 Hi Deborah, Here are some articles on "Magnesium" from FindArticles.com Take Care, Sharon Myers Find Articles.Com - "Magnesium" Find Articles.Com Click Here 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 I've been taking liquid " Magonate " . It really helped me. In the past, for years, I had trouble with uncontrolable coughing. My coughing was really terrible. My eyes would water, my face would turn red, I couldn't talk, people thought I was choking. I've taken various medications prescribed by doctors from nose sprays to asthma inhalers. I was diagnosed with some type of breathing problem, similiar to asthma, but not true asthma. I still carry cough drops with me. My throat still feels very dry & on the verge of coughing. But, since I've used the Magonate, I haven't had any major episodes. I started out using 2 tsps./3 times a day. Now, I just use 2 tsp. in the morning. I've heard that the liquid works better than the tablets. Also, my doctor had me stop taking calcium supplements. He said it would interfere with the Magnesium absorption. I'm not really sure about that. But, I haven't done any research into it. Magnesium Does anyone here know anything about Magnesium supplementation? Also, I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on whether or not taking an Alleve once a day for muscle aches would slow down my thyroid function. Thank you in advance for any comments you might have. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 I heard somewhere that magnesium when taken with calcium is bad for the thyroid Nunnally wrote: > > Does anyone here know anything about Magnesium > supplementation? Also, I was wondering if anyone had > any thoughts on whether or not taking an Alleve once a > day for muscle aches would slow down my thyroid > function. Thank you in advance for any comments you > might have. > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 No, this is not true. Calcium can interfere with absorption of thyroid medications if taken too close to the time the meds are taken, but calcium is not bad for the thyroid. Celeste Hilt wrote: > I heard somewhere that magnesium when taken with calcium is bad for the > thyroid > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2002 Report Share Posted May 1, 2002 My doctor told me not to take the calcium supplement with Magnesium. He says it interferes with the absorption. So, he said if I didn't know for sure that I needed the calcium, just to discontinue it. He said that I should never take the Calcium/Magnesium supplements that have both in them. Re: Magnesium I heard somewhere that magnesium when taken with calcium is bad for the thyroid Nunnally wrote: > > Does anyone here know anything about Magnesium > supplementation? Also, I was wondering if anyone had > any thoughts on whether or not taking an Alleve once a > day for muscle aches would slow down my thyroid > function. Thank you in advance for any comments you > might have. > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2002 Report Share Posted May 1, 2002 I take cal/mag in equal amounts in a multi vitamin I get from naturopath. If hypothyroidism is treated properly, if you are getting T3, you shouldn't have muscle aches or need aleve. Gracia > > Does anyone here know anything about Magnesium > supplementation? Also, I was wondering if anyone had > any thoughts on whether or not taking an Alleve once a > day for muscle aches would slow down my thyroid > function. Thank you in advance for any comments you > might have. > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2002 Report Share Posted May 1, 2002 I have never heard that in all my life! I thought they always work together. Gracia > My doctor told me not to take the calcium supplement with Magnesium. He says it interferes with the absorption. So, he said if I didn't know for sure that I needed the calcium, just to discontinue it. He said that I should never take the Calcium/Magnesium supplements that have both in them. > > Re: Magnesium > > > I heard somewhere that magnesium when taken with calcium is bad for the > thyroid > > Nunnally wrote: > > > > > Does anyone here know anything about Magnesium > > supplementation? Also, I was wondering if anyone had > > any thoughts on whether or not taking an Alleve once a > > day for muscle aches would slow down my thyroid > > function. Thank you in advance for any comments you > > might have. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2002 Report Share Posted May 1, 2002 At 17:49 30.04.2002 -0700, you wrote: >My doctor told me not to take the calcium supplement with Magnesium. He >says it interferes with the absorption. So, he said if I didn't know for >sure that I needed the calcium, just to discontinue it. He said that I >should never take the Calcium/Magnesium supplements that have both in them. > , find better doctor. He told you total nonsense! Espen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 I take Tri-Boron-Plus. It is a calcium supplement with magnesium, Vitamin D and co-factors. It is made by Twinlab. It is not expensive. A bottle of 240 capsules is around $25.00. You take 4 capsules a day. I bought it at the Vitamin Shoppe. Many times it is on sale. I think they have an internet site. Martha A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 also stay away from benadryl if you have restless legs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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