Magnesium

[Guest guest]

I use the Natural Calm brand of Mag. Tastes great and works great!

Phil

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Phil wrote:

>

> Does anyone know if its true magnesium is depleted or inhibited with

a high fat diet? I have noticed since increasing my fat intake I am

> needing more magnesium? I am upto 700mg now but am worried about the

> amount of glycine I am taking in, problem also is its the only one I

> seem to tolerate.

==>Fats do not deplete magnesium. They help pull magnesium and other

nutrients out of foods. What is the reason are you taking 700 mg of

magnesium? Why are you be worried about glycine - are you taking a

supplement? What do you mean it's the only one you seem to tolerate?

Sorry Phil, your questions need a little more clarification for me to

understand where you are coming from.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Thanks Bee, To clarify the only magnesium I tolerate is magnesium

glycinate. I was just slightly concerned if you could inbalance amino

acids due to the 500mg glycine per magnesium supplement. Re the fats

and magnesium question, I just noticed I have needed more magnesium

as I have increased my fat in take?

Thanks

Phil

> >

> > Does anyone know if its true magnesium is depleted or inhibited

with

> a high fat diet? I have noticed since increasing my fat intake I am

> > needing more magnesium? I am upto 700mg now but am worried about

the

> > amount of glycine I am taking in, problem also is its the only

one I

> > seem to tolerate.

>

> ==>Fats do not deplete magnesium. They help pull magnesium and

other

> nutrients out of foods. What is the reason are you taking 700 mg

of

> magnesium? Why are you be worried about glycine - are you taking a

> supplement? What do you mean it's the only one you seem to

tolerate?

> Sorry Phil, your questions need a little more clarification for me

to

> understand where you are coming from.

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Thanks Bee, To clarify the only magnesium I tolerate is magnesium

glycinate. I was just slightly concerned if you could inbalance amino

acids due to the 500mg glycine per magnesium supplement.

==>You do not need to be concerned that amino acids will become

imbalanced. Sometimes megadoses of certain animo acids are perscribed

as a treatment for certain conditions.

> Re the fats and magnesium question, I just noticed I have needed

more magnesium as I have increased my fat in take?

==>How do you know you need more magnesium?

Bee

>

[Guest guest]

I get cramps in my calf muscles and my eye starts to twitch, as soon

as I take the magnesium (withing about 30mins) it clears up.

Also thanks for the post about the CO, I did increase it quite fast,

I will decrease it

Thanks

Phil

> >

> > Hi Thanks Bee, To clarify the only magnesium I tolerate is

magnesium

> glycinate. I was just slightly concerned if you could inbalance

amino

> acids due to the 500mg glycine per magnesium supplement.

>

> ==>You do not need to be concerned that amino acids will become

> imbalanced. Sometimes megadoses of certain animo acids are

perscribed

> as a treatment for certain conditions.

>

> > Re the fats and magnesium question, I just noticed I have needed

> more magnesium as I have increased my fat in take?

>

> ==>How do you know you need more magnesium?

>

> Bee

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sue, yes magnesium does make the stools very loose. It's a treatment

for constipation. Some forms of magnesium cause it more easily than

other forms, but I do not have time to look them up.

I don't think you need much more than 600 mg per day. Cut back to the

amount that doesn't cause diarrhea.

Bee

>

> Hi bee,

>

> howmuch is too much magnesium? I took 900 mg on sat and sun and

about

> 1150 today and i have had diareah all day. Im thinking its the

> magnesium andhopefully not the nexium that the dr prescribed. I also

> had chicken soup which maybe was greasy and a hamburger which was

> greasy.

>

> What are your thoughts.

> thanks

> sue

>

[Guest guest]

MAG CITRATE HAS A PRONOUNCED LAXATIVE EFFECT SO I TAKE VERY LITTLE OF THAT TYPE.

I HAVE MAG TAURINATE BY ITSELF AND ALSO MAG GLYCONATE. AND A MULTI MAG WHICH

HAS SOME OF THE MAG CITRATE. I TRY TO SWITCH THEM AROUND.

ita <jzealey@...> wrote: I've found out that I'm quite

deficient in magnesium, and have seen

people mention a few different forms of magnesium on here. Can someone

please recommend the best type to get? Thanks.

ita

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[Guest guest]

Natural Calm is a great one. You can google it by typing in Natural

Calm. It's by Gilliham - (sp. may be wrong on his last name). I

know that you can buy it a whole foods.

>

> I've found out that I'm quite deficient in magnesium, and have seen

> people mention a few different forms of magnesium on here. Can

someone

> please recommend the best type to get? Thanks.

>

> ita

>

[Guest guest]

Magnesium Citrate is the best as it stays in your system whereas a cheaper

version such as magnesium oxide doesn't. Citrate is more expensive but you

get better results.

Alison

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From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

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Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:05 PM

candidiasis

Subject: Magnesium

I've found out that I'm quite deficient in magnesium, and have seen

people mention a few different forms of magnesium on here. Can someone

please recommend the best type to get? Thanks.

ita

[Guest guest]

mag citrate can increase biwek mivements o you end up with less mag than you had

to start with.

~Alison from Chicago~ <Callesto71@...> wrote: Magnesium Citrate

is the best as it stays in your system whereas a cheaper

version such as magnesium oxide doesn't. Citrate is more expensive but you

get better results.

Alison

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From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of ita

Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:05 PM

candidiasis

Subject: Magnesium

I've found out that I'm quite deficient in magnesium, and have seen

people mention a few different forms of magnesium on here. Can someone

please recommend the best type to get? Thanks.

ita

[Guest guest]

i second that! but beware it can take up to 12 hours for it to kick in,

and when it does, well, you don't want to be stuck in traffic!

Re: Magnesium

Natural Calm is a great one. You can google it by typing in Natural

Calm. It's by Gilliham - (sp. may be wrong on his last name). I

know that you can buy it a whole foods.

>

> I've found out that I'm quite deficient in magnesium, and have seen

> people mention a few different forms of magnesium on here. Can

someone

> please recommend the best type to get? Thanks.

>

> ita

>

[Guest guest]

Increased bowel movements don't necessarily mean the magnesium wasn't

absorbed.

Alison

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From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Leigh McCall-Alton

Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 5:36 AM

candidiasis

Subject: RE: Magnesium

mag citrate can increase biwek mivements o you end up with less mag than you

had to start with.

~Alison from Chicago~ <Callesto71comcast (DOT) <mailto:Callesto71%40comcast.net>

net> wrote: Magnesium Citrate is the best as it stays in your system whereas

a cheaper

version such as magnesium oxide doesn't. Citrate is more expensive but you

get better results.

Alison

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[mailto:candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40> ]

On

Behalf Of ita

Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:05 PM

candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40>

Subject: Magnesium

I've found out that I'm quite deficient in magnesium, and have seen

people mention a few different forms of magnesium on here. Can someone

please recommend the best type to get? Thanks.

ita

[Guest guest]

it leeches magnesium from your body. get eal. i have had several doctors and

nutritionalista to tell me this.

~Alison from Chicago~ <Callesto71@...> wrote: Increased bowel

movements don't necessarily mean the magnesium wasn't

absorbed.

Alison

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From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Leigh McCall-Alton

Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 5:36 AM

candidiasis

Subject: RE: Magnesium

mag citrate can increase biwek mivements o you end up with less mag than you

had to start with.

~Alison from Chicago~ <Callesto71comcast (DOT) <mailto:Callesto71%40comcast.net>

net> wrote: Magnesium Citrate is the best as it stays in your system whereas

a cheaper

version such as magnesium oxide doesn't. Citrate is more expensive but you

get better results.

Alison

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From: candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40>

[mailto:candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40> ]

On

Behalf Of ita

Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:05 PM

candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40>

Subject: Magnesium

I've found out that I'm quite deficient in magnesium, and have seen

people mention a few different forms of magnesium on here. Can someone

please recommend the best type to get? Thanks.

ita

[Guest guest]

Hi,

There are 3 major antacid salts & have following side effects.

Calcium salts have tendency towards constipation.

Magnesium salts in excess have laxative action.

Aluminum salts affect brain.

General characteristics.

No need to oppose.

Healthy regards,

gesi

~Alison from Chicago~ wrote:

> Increased bowel movements don't necessarily mean the magnesium wasn't

> absorbed.

>

>

>

> Alison

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

> what are the effects on the body of not having enough

> magensium.

==>Magnesium affects the heart and pulse.

>

> I have been having a kinda racing feeling,not so much

> heart racing, as a jittery feeling inside. I feel it

> when i relax. It has been about 4 days now and i have

> had it before and seem to remember it has to do with

> lack of magnesium.

>

> I have slacked on my mag in the past week and am

> wondering if that is what is causing this. I get a

> heart racing feeling when i am sleeping. Last night i

> took 350 mg before bedtime at 3 hour intervals and it

> seemed less but still there.

==>Do ensure you are taking all of the supplements recommended - the

diet and supplements work together. You should only go off

everything 1-2 days a month just to allow the body to re-adjust

itself without them. There are a number of things that could make

you feel jittery and for your heart to race. I suggest you re-check

all of your supplements and that you do deep breathing exercises;

see the Breathe Right Folder. Let us know how it goes.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

but bee...

can lack of mag cause a jittery feeling or make

anxiety worse?

I am doing all of the supplements with the exception

of cod liver oil as i am using up my summer omegas and

will then get the cod. ALso my b's are a bit off but

again i will replace them wheni finish these.

My dr(yeasty knowledgeable and kinda doesnt promote

western med) indicated that i should be careful with

vit d as too much can cause kidney stones. He did say

it is usually seen with higher levels such as 10,000

per day for a length of time. He gave me a rx for

another vit d test. last time my levels were low like

in the 30's and with your program they were up to the

high 40's.

thanks sue

>

>

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[Guest guest]

>

>

> but bee...

>

> can lack of mag cause a jittery feeling or make

> anxiety worse?

==>Yes it can, but so can many other factors, i.e. candida and other

toxins, adrenal malfunction, low thyroid, (both caused by candida),

lack of B vitamins, Vitamin C, Omega 3, oil soluble vitamins (A, D &

E), calcium, etc. This is why the diet plus supplements are so very

important.

>

> I am doing all of the supplements with the exception

> of cod liver oil as i am using up my summer omegas and

> will then get the cod. ALso my b's are a bit off but

> again i will replace them wheni finish these.

>

> My dr(yeasty knowledgeable and kinda doesnt promote

> western med) indicated that i should be careful with

> vit d as too much can cause kidney stones. He did say

> it is usually seen with higher levels such as 10,000

> per day for a length of time. He gave me a rx for

> another vit d test. last time my levels were low like

> in the 30's and with your program they were up to the

> high 40's.

==>Like he said it would take megadoses for a long period of time,

whereas I recommend 800 to 1,200 IUs per day. In order to bring up

vitamin D blood levels some people need more. My friend is taking

about 5,000 IUs per day.

==>I believe he is may be referring to synthetic vit. D however,

whereas fish oil and cod liver oil are a totally natural source

which are considered " whole foods " . Also one must take vitamin D and

A, that's why when cod liver oil is low in either of them or both

one must take extra supplements, and you need to take vitamin A with

fish oils. Also other nutrients work together with vitamin D, A & E

such as phosphorus which is contained in meats and eggs.

==>I think you should start on cod liver oil right away, and maybe

freeze your fish oil until next summer.

Bee

[Guest guest]

> ==>I think you should start on cod liver oil right

> away, and maybe

> freeze your fish oil until next summer.

>

> Bee

*** Any suggestions from the group on a good brand of

cod liver oil in maybe a pill form? Im open to

ordering it from the net...

Thanks... Sue

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[Guest guest]

>

> These supplements are all new to me. Also in the health food store,

I was looking ath a cal/mag one. COuld not find one that had the mag

the same as the calcium. Each one had a 2:1 ratio. I am understanding

that I need them to be the same right? I could not find a regular

magnesium one. Does it matter if it is liquid or a pill?

==>Like my article states most cal/mag supplements are 2:1 ratio, so

you need to either buy them separately or buy a separate magnesium so

you can take enough to balance it out to 1:1. Natural Factors has a

good 350 mg calcium citrate and 150 mg magnesium citrate. Liquid is

okay too and it is easier to absorb but most of them contain sugars of

some kind in order to make it taste better.

>

> Also can anyone recommend a good children's vitamin? Their

pediatrician told me to get Flintstones!! They are old enough to

swallow a pill hole. Every kids vitamin has sugar or fructose as the

first ingredient!

==>Buy adult supplements and depending upon the age of the child give

them less; babies to age 3 is about 1/4 of an adult dose; 4 - 12 is 1/3

of an adult dose; 12 and over is an adult dose. It is best to get

supplements in capsules so you can dump them out into foods. Some will

mix okay in water; however cal/mag won't mix in water - it just settles

to the bottom. A good Vitamin B complex alternative for children is

Nutritional Yeast Flakes by Frontier or some similar " good " brand,

which is mixed into water. Children usually love it. It has a nutty

flavour. See my article " Candida Treatments for Babies & Children "

which hasn't been posted on my website yet, but it is in our Group's

Files (left menu) in the very first folder along with my article.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello,

>

> I am new to this group and I have been doing a lot of reading in the

> files section.

==>Hi . Welcome to our group.

>

> I have been plagued with constipation for years now. And I have

tried all sorts of remedies, namely increasing fiber. Now I learn

that is probably doing more harm than good.

>

> So I read to take magnesium. I already take 500mg per day, but for

> the last three days I have doubled that. I finally had 2 bowel

> movements today and they were pencil thin. Is that because of the

> magnesium? I'm a little worried.

==>, hopefully you are on this diet and taking the other

supplements as well - they all work together. If you take magnesium

without calcium it will deplete calcium, so ensure you are taking at

least 300 mg twice a day of calcium as well.

==>You can take magnesium for short periods of time to alleviate

constipation but it shouldn't be used long-term. The best treatment

for constipation is the high " good " saturated fats in my diet, but

when you have candida it can take awhile to adjust to high levels

because they are antifungal; die-off symptoms can be too severe

unless you start on low doses and gradually increase them.

==>Good fats like coconut oil, butter, lard, and other natural

occurring meat and egg fats heal and strengthen the intestines and

they are so important for overall health. They work together with

omega-3 and the oil soluble vitamins A, D & E, so cod liver oil is

critical (contains omega-3, A & D) along with a Vitamin E supplement

per my candida article.

==>If you change your diet to this one too quickly it can cause

constipation too, so it is important to gradually lower your carbs as

you are gradually increasing your good fats.

==>I believe it is better to use vitamin C for constipation, rather

than magnesium, because you can take higher doses without throwing

off mineral balances. Take 4,000 mgs the first dose, and 1,000 mgs

every hour until bowel tolerance is reached, i.e. loose stools. If

you do not get loose stools on 1,000 mgs take 2,000 mgs every hour.

Sodium ascorbate may work better than tablets, which is a mixture of

equal amounts (50/50 mixture) of ascorbic acid crystals and baking

soda, and mixed with water to take it. Most ascorbic acid crystals

contain 1,000 to 1,200 mgs of vitamin C per 1/4 teaspoon.

==>However I highly recommend you start on the 9-day program which is

in our Group's Files (left menu) - see C) Digestion Folder. On Day

One you can also have Bee's Raw Egg Drink along with the recommended

broths - See our Recipe Files, under drinks.

The best to you, Bee

[Guest guest]

I have used a product called CALM, which is magnesium citrate, for many years,

and recommend it.

Best,

Cass A

[Guest guest]

I get mine from colloidal minerals, Thorne's Buffered Vitamin C, and mostly

from Kirkman's magnesium-sulphate cream.

Heidi N

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[Guest guest]

>

> Is it okay to put my daily allotted amount of magnesium citrate

powder-

> 600 mg- in my electolyte drink? I will take the calcium citrate in

> tablet form 300 mg twice a day.

> Thank you.

> Happiness, Ellen " -)

==>Yes you may.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Maarten,

I tested showing an extreme deficiency of magnesium, started taking

supplements but didn't see much improvement. I have some reference

books and started poring through them and found a suggestion that

taking B6 with the magnesium makes it more available. I've been taking

50mgs of B6 and am showing closer to normal now. I'm assuming you would

rather get magnesium through food, so would I but I'm happy this is

working for now.

Good Luck,

Sharon A. Kane

Food As Medicine

www.sanctuary-healing.com

>

> Hi guys.

>

> Do you know of good natural sources of magnesium for the body? Are

there

> fermentation processes that help make it available?

>

> Thanks,

> Maarten

>

[Guest guest]

> I tested showing an extreme deficiency of magnesium, started taking

> supplements but didn't see much improvement.

I've been taking this lately and have been very happy with it:

http://www.petergillham.com/

It's dissolved in boiling water & drunk like a tea, which somehow makes

it more bioavailable.