Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Hi, I'm new to the group, checked out the message board and really zeroes in on your post because my daughter is doing the same thing and its driving me nuts! One thing we're exploring is acid reflux. did some reading and found it tied to lots of excess saliva, noticed the back of her throat was kind of red too, well we tried her on Prilosec and the incidence went way down, disappeared actually, but a week into it she stated hitting herself on the forhead. Trying liquid antiacid now, but her hands are so rough and almost leathery now, she's just dried them out completely. Does he want to drink alot of water?She was asking for alot and just gulping it down, she really seemed uncomfortable in the back of the throat area -is he getting alot of oral motor therapy, maybe tactile defensiveness in the mouth area? Throwing out stuff, and like you searching for the solution to this because its a hot button behavior for me ugh. > > Maybe it is a sensory issue? Have you tried oral stimulation, > like a > > flavorful gum or spicy hard candy? Could it be the salt he is > > craving? Just my thoughts. > > > > -mom to Damin, 10 > > > > > My 7year old not so verbal son constantly must lick his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Hi, I'm new to the group, checked out the message board and really zeroes in on your post because my daughter is doing the same thing and its driving me nuts! One thing we're exploring is acid reflux. did some reading and found it tied to lots of excess saliva, noticed the back of her throat was kind of red too, well we tried her on Prilosec and the incidence went way down, disappeared actually, but a week into it she stated hitting herself on the forhead. Trying liquid antiacid now, but her hands are so rough and almost leathery now, she's just dried them out completely. Does he want to drink alot of water?She was asking for alot and just gulping it down, she really seemed uncomfortable in the back of the throat area -is he getting alot of oral motor therapy, maybe tactile defensiveness in the mouth area? Throwing out stuff, and like you searching for the solution to this because its a hot button behavior for me ugh. > > Maybe it is a sensory issue? Have you tried oral stimulation, > like a > > flavorful gum or spicy hard candy? Could it be the salt he is > > craving? Just my thoughts. > > > > -mom to Damin, 10 > > > > > My 7year old not so verbal son constantly must lick his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 http://www.danasview.net/handlick.htm I did a web search and found this site. Maybe someone can find something here that might help. BETTY ANN-61 yo, grandma and guardian to ANDREW - 12 yo-- Bipolar/ADHD, Homeschooled EVAN - 9 yo-- nonverbal autism DAVID 7 yo Bipolar/ADHD/PTSD and mother to ANDREA -32 yo, their mom -Bipolar/ADHD wife to BOB - 72 yo, a very patient and tired grandpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Hi Betty, I checked out the web site and it was great! Lots of things I had never considered bu that make a lot of sense. > http://www.danasview.net/handlick.htm > > I did a web search and found this site. Maybe someone can find something > here that might help. > > BETTY ANN-61 yo, > grandma and guardian to > ANDREW - 12 yo-- Bipolar/ADHD, Homeschooled > EVAN - 9 yo-- nonverbal autism > DAVID 7 yo Bipolar/ADHD/PTSD > and mother to ANDREA -32 yo, their mom -Bipolar/ADHD > wife to BOB - 72 yo, a very patient and tired grandpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Yesterday after reading the posts, I thought, instead of me rubbing the lotion on his hands -- I'll just put a big blob of lotion on his hands. Well he liked that. So the person who wrote about sensory issues is correct in this case. But I think it is sensory/obsessive compulsive. Because the boy can't stop. Before handlicking my son would bite his hands when frustrated, happy or bored. Not enough to make the skin break, but enough to chap them out like the other person wrote a post or 2 ago. Last night I was out with an old friend who is in AA. We were talking about how you have to " exchange " a bad behavior or habit with a better one. Instead of meeting friends at bars, she meets them for latte's. I exchanged latte's for tea at home and saved money, calories and time, etc. I hope this analogies aren't too stupid.... but it got me looking at redirecting behaviors in a different way. How you always have to change them out with something else that is satisfying to yourself, in order to ween yourself from the bad behavior. But I don't want to keep " rewarding " him with cream and turning that into a major compulsion too. I guess it is a balancing act that requires great patience. Thank you all for your suggestions. It isn't like I can walk down the street and ask my neighbors.... And to the person who thinks her child might have acid reflux. I too thought my son had this last year and did a trial of Nexium (I think that's what it was). Pepcid AC has gotten attention before in the autism community. > > http://www.danasview.net/handlick.htm > > > > I did a web search and found this site. Maybe someone can find > something > > here that might help. > > > > BETTY ANN-61 yo, > > grandma and guardian to > > ANDREW - 12 yo-- Bipolar/ADHD, Homeschooled > > EVAN - 9 yo-- nonverbal autism > > DAVID 7 yo Bipolar/ADHD/PTSD > > and mother to ANDREA -32 yo, their mom -Bipolar/ADHD > > wife to BOB - 72 yo, a very patient and tired grandpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2003 Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 Evan will also bite at his hands when he is frustrated. Enough to severely callous his hands. He wipes off any thing we put on his hands to help heal them so his doctor suggested antibiotic ointment after he falls asleep. I remember years back a mother of twins brought up that when her girls were toddlers one of them was having stomach problems and was put on either Zantac or Pepcid AC by the doctor. That daughter did not develop as severe autism as her sister did. She mentioned this about the time that the was a lot of discussion on the leaky gut and Pepcid AC seeming to help. I tried the gluten-casein free diet for Evan for about a year with little if any results and I have also taken Evan to NAET for wheat allergy elimination and did tapping at home for wheat. Each time, right after tapping Evan did more of the mamama blabbing and then would stop. Perhaps that is a clue that I should keep tapping on that. BETTY ANN-61 yo, grandma and guardian to ANDREW - 12 yo-- Bipolar/ADHD, Homeschooled EVAN - 9 yo-- nonverbal autism DAVID 7 yo Bipolar/ADHD/PTSD and mother to ANDREA -32 yo, their mom -Bipolar/ADHD wife to BOB - 72 yo, a very patient and tired grandpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 My son's teacher wrote a social story for handlicking. She said it seems to be working. My son is just starting to get some receptive language, but the " story " has lots of pictures. He can read better than he can talk. So they read it with him every morning Example: " markers, computer or play doh, no handlicking. Handlicking then wash hands. Clean hands go to music " The only thing I am worried about -- is if he becomes compulsive about washing hands next. I don't want to trade that behavior for another. One good thing is he is biting his hands less now that he is handlicking and the lotion heals it. I am going to try a story about keeping his clothes on at home too. This story thing never worked for him in the past, but now it might. Now whenever he has clothes on -- he thinks he is leaving the house. He run's out the door. When the sitter came, I made him put his clothes on and he thought he was going with me and had a fit when he had to stay home. Maybe if it was a song that went to the rhythm of the " Wheels on the Bus " . The clothes on your body, stay, on, on, on. I'll try that tonight! > > Maybe it is a sensory issue? Have you tried oral stimulation, > like a > > flavorful gum or spicy hard candy? Could it be the salt he is > > craving? Just my thoughts. > > > > -mom to Damin, 10 > > > > > My 7year old not so verbal son constantly must lick his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 In a message dated 16/08/2005 23:28:12 GMT Daylight Time, williamsjm@... writes: Does anyone know the significance of hand licking? We've noticed my grandson Luke has been doing this in recent days. I think I've seen a reference to this on a forum message but cannot remember the context. >>>Dr JmC reckons its linking with Lead detox. Others have said mineral deficiency I think. Is he seeking salt? Sorry not much help Mandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 BJ, my oldest daughter licks her hands also. She says it is to clean them off. She also spits on them (she has OCD but no TS) When she is very anxious, she spits on them a lot! It's a bit gross. When she gets to a sink, she washes them so I guess that's good. Life is never dull, that's for sure! Kelley in NV ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 Ben also licks his hands. That's fairly new. Pretty gross. If he touches the garbage can, he licks or the bathroom. We are kind of working on it. Mostly resisting. The first time I noticed it was when he licked his arm when someone bumped into him. Always something. J Re: Re: hand licking BJ, my oldest daughter licks her hands also. She says it is to clean them off. She also spits on them (she has OCD but no TS) When she is very anxious, she spits on them a lot! It's a bit gross. When she gets to a sink, she washes them so I guess that's good. Life is never dull, that's for sure! Kelley in NV ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 <<Life is never dull, that's for sure!>>> You said a mouth full. lol BJ > BJ, my oldest daughter licks her hands also. She says it is to clean them > off. She also spits on them (she has OCD but no TS) When she is very > anxious, she spits on them a lot! It's a bit gross. When she gets to a sink, she > washes them so I guess that's good. Life is never dull, that's for sure! > Kelley in NV > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 Interesting. Your kid and 's kiddo sounds like it is a little more blatent. With Josh it is when he is really concentrating on something. He tends to twist his hands/fingers all up and holds them up to his face. He used to chew on his hands, but now he just holds them up there and occasionally, I will see him barely lick one of his hands. His tongue will dart out and touch his hand quickly. It could be he really doesn't know why he does it because he is really very focused on something else at the time. I'm wondering if it is something he has always done but because we are really focusing on his OCD behaviors that I've noticed it now. If that's the case, it could be such a habit for him that he doesn't know why he does it now. Sometimes it seems hard to separate what is just typical child behavior from what is an OCD behavior though. I remember chewing my nails when I was young. I eventually quit, but it seems all kids have some nervous behaviors. Sometimes it seems like it is a fine line trying to figure out what to focus on and what not to. It can become rather easy to start analyzing every little thing they do. Thank goodness for Josh's therapist. Sometimes I feel so lost trying to sort it out. BJ > > Ben also licks his hands. That's fairly new. Pretty gross. If he touches the garbage can, he licks or the bathroom. We are kind of working on it. Mostly resisting. The first time I noticed it was when he licked his arm when someone bumped into him. Always something. > J > Re: Re: hand licking > > > BJ, my oldest daughter licks her hands also. She says it is to clean them > off. She also spits on them (she has OCD but no TS) When she is very > anxious, she spits on them a lot! It's a bit gross. When she gets to a sink, she > washes them so I guess that's good. Life is never dull, that's for sure! > Kelley in NV > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 One thing I've noticed Ben doing is that he says " I'm not going to lick my hand " or " I don't have to go, I just went " (pee pee). Much improved over doing the thing he is talking about. His main compulsion is telling his bad thoughts. At first I thought that is what he was doing, but it seems different. I also worry that this could lead to excessive hand washing or something. So far, he washes once, but everytime he touches the dog, goes outside, touches his feet. The hand licking is definitely deliberate, and he does it to keep them clean. I explained that the germs get inside that way, but Big Bully doesn't seem to care. sigh... Re: Re: hand licking > > > BJ, my oldest daughter licks her hands also. She says it is to clean them > off. She also spits on them (she has OCD but no TS) When she is very > anxious, she spits on them a lot! It's a bit gross. When she gets to a sink, she > washes them so I guess that's good. Life is never dull, that's for sure! > Kelley in NV > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 > " His main compulsion is telling his bad thoughts " This is 's biggest compulsion also. He does not act on his thoughts but always feels the need to tell them no matter how disturbing they are. We haven't seen the hand licking, but the hand washing is definetly there. He also says all the time " Im not going to do " so and so " so I feel like he is very aware of his compulsions/obsessions. Mom to age 9 (OCD diagnosis 2 weeks ago) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 My son often licks his hand and especially when he touches wooden play structure or gets a pen mark on his hand etc.His way of cleaning .....tried to redirect it with wet wipes but no help.What do you think causes it.It comes and goes.............so it confuses me Thanks Laila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Sounds like mineral deficiency or yeast. My son used to mouth a lot of things. Be careful of arsenic on treated wood. > > My son often licks his hand and especially when he touches wooden play structure or gets a pen mark on his hand etc.His way of cleaning .....tried to redirect it with wet wipes but no help.What do you think causes it.It comes and goes.............so it confuses me > > Thanks > Laila > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 This habit comes and goes so i guess this is a good place to start Thanks From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Hand Licking Received: Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 11:48 PM Â Sounds like mineral deficiency or yeast. My son used to mouth a lot of things. Be careful of arsenic on treated wood. > > My son often licks his hand and especially when he touches wooden play structure or gets a pen mark on his hand etc.His way of cleaning .....tried to redirect it with wet wipes but no help.What do you think causes it.It comes and goes.............so it confuses me > > Thanks > Laila > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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