Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Does the hair test meet the counting rules for deranged mineral transport? Where is the mercury level? My child had high arsenic and antimony, too. He did meet the counting rules, so I assumed mercury was high, though he wasn't excreting it in his hair. We did not have lead issues. Is the lead above or below the reference range number? We used ALA only for chelation. In about 2.5 years, my child's arsenic and antimony were well below the reference ranges and he no longer showed deranged mineral transport AND his diagnosis was removed, as he healed. We also changed many lifestyle elements to decrease exposures, such as organic foods, avoiding pesticides/herbicides, switching to flame retardant free mattress, bedding, sleepwear, etc. The low elements on the hair test may (or may not) mean anything - depends on the whole picture. Look in the files section to see if the counting rules are listed. > > just got hair elements from DDI, > > arsenic is about 94th percentile, and the only other toxic element is antimony ~70th (just into the yellow). lead is about 66th percentile, but still in green. I want to chelate, but right now my son is only pooping every 3rd day. What would be the best approach? I read that DMPS or DMSA with ALA is most effective for arsenic? Should I be worried about lead/antimony at this level or just focus on the arsenic? Does anyone have any success/recoverys stories chelating arsenic? > > I was also very surprised to see extremely low values of a few elements.. > Strontium 2th % > Calcium - 3th % > Copper - 7th % > Zinc - 10th % > > can the high arsenic cause malabsorption of these specific elements? > > my 3 yr old son is hf asd and has gut issues (yeast/bacteria) and constipation and some sensory issues, but is verbal with quirky speech and slight social delay. not really any blatant arsenic toxicity symptoms, except maybe some fatigue. no vaccinations. we think the source of arsenic is industrial, since we live down the street from the highest measured level of arsenic in the air in the state of oregon. > > thanks for any advice > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 HI . Do you think I could order a mattress without the flame retardant. I heard they are like 3000 dollars From: mosaictm <lisa369@...> Subject: [ ] Re: hair test results - high arsenic & low Ca/Cu/Zn Received: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 12:57 PM Â Does the hair test meet the counting rules for deranged mineral transport? Where is the mercury level? My child had high arsenic and antimony, too. He did meet the counting rules, so I assumed mercury was high, though he wasn't excreting it in his hair. We did not have lead issues. Is the lead above or below the reference range number? We used ALA only for chelation. In about 2.5 years, my child's arsenic and antimony were well below the reference ranges and he no longer showed deranged mineral transport AND his diagnosis was removed, as he healed. We also changed many lifestyle elements to decrease exposures, such as organic foods, avoiding pesticides/herbicides, switching to flame retardant free mattress, bedding, sleepwear, etc. The low elements on the hair test may (or may not) mean anything - depends on the whole picture. Look in the files section to see if the counting rules are listed. > > just got hair elements from DDI, > > arsenic is about 94th percentile, and the only other toxic element is antimony ~70th (just into the yellow). lead is about 66th percentile, but still in green. I want to chelate, but right now my son is only pooping every 3rd day. What would be the best approach? I read that DMPS or DMSA with ALA is most effective for arsenic? Should I be worried about lead/antimony at this level or just focus on the arsenic? Does anyone have any success/recoverys stories chelating arsenic? > > I was also very surprised to see extremely low values of a few elements.. > Strontium 2th % > Calcium - 3th % > Copper - 7th % > Zinc - 10th % > > can the high arsenic cause malabsorption of these specific elements? > > my 3 yr old son is hf asd and has gut issues (yeast/bacteria) and constipation and some sensory issues, but is verbal with quirky speech and slight social delay. not really any blatant arsenic toxicity symptoms, except maybe some fatigue. no vaccinations. we think the source of arsenic is industrial, since we live down the street from the highest measured level of arsenic in the air in the state of oregon. > > thanks for any advice > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I once threw one of the non retardant foam mattresses on a fire. It quickly caught fire and for the next two minutes you could get no where near the thing. No matter what they cost, you don't want one of the things. Thanks, Dan http://danweatherington.com/willie.htm [ ] Re: hair test results - high arsenic & low Ca/Cu/Zn Received: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 12:57 PM Does the hair test meet the counting rules for deranged mineral transport? Where is the mercury level? My child had high arsenic and antimony, too. He did meet the counting rules, so I assumed mercury was high, though he wasn't excreting it in his hair. We did not have lead issues. Is the lead above or below the reference range number? We used ALA only for chelation. In about 2.5 years, my child's arsenic and antimony were well below the reference ranges and he no longer showed deranged mineral transport AND his diagnosis was removed, as he healed. We also changed many lifestyle elements to decrease exposures, such as organic foods, avoiding pesticides/herbicides, switching to flame retardant free mattress, bedding, sleepwear, etc. The low elements on the hair test may (or may not) mean anything - depends on the whole picture. Look in the files section to see if the counting rules are listed. > > just got hair elements from DDI, > > arsenic is about 94th percentile, and the only other toxic element is antimony ~70th (just into the yellow). lead is about 66th percentile, but still in green. I want to chelate, but right now my son is only pooping every 3rd day. What would be the best approach? I read that DMPS or DMSA with ALA is most effective for arsenic? Should I be worried about lead/antimony at this level or just focus on the arsenic? Does anyone have any success/recoverys stories chelating arsenic? > > I was also very surprised to see extremely low values of a few elements.. > Strontium 2th % > Calcium - 3th % > Copper - 7th % > Zinc - 10th % > > can the high arsenic cause malabsorption of these specific elements? > > my 3 yr old son is hf asd and has gut issues (yeast/bacteria) and constipation and some sensory issues, but is verbal with quirky speech and slight social delay. not really any blatant arsenic toxicity symptoms, except maybe some fatigue. no vaccinations. we think the source of arsenic is industrial, since we live down the street from the highest measured level of arsenic in the air in the state of oregon. > > thanks for any advice > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Dan, there are people who want them, regardless of the cost and with full knowledge of the fire risks. The horrible chemicals that are used on conventional mattresses have not been used for all of eternity, meaning we can make do without them, and they can be quite damaging to one's health.  There are precautions people can take to lower the fire risks; such as, not throwing it on a flaming pile, not smoking in bed, not keeping a heater in bed, removing electrical appliances from the area (heating pads, laptops, radios, etc) and having appropriate fire detection equipment in place and working. I'm sure there are others but these are just a few of the things we have done.  It may not be the right solution for you, but it is the right step for others. (We currently have one chemical free mattress out of five beds in the house, because that child really needed a chemical free bed and is doing much much better). Amy  From: mosaictm <lisa369@...> Subject: [ ] Re: hair test results - high arsenic & low Ca/Cu/Zn Received: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 12:57 PM Does the hair test meet the counting rules for deranged mineral transport? Where is the mercury level? My child had high arsenic and antimony, too. He did meet the counting rules, so I assumed mercury was high, though he wasn't excreting it in his hair. We did not have lead issues. Is the lead above or below the reference range number? We used ALA only for chelation. In about 2.5 years, my child's arsenic and antimony were well below the reference ranges and he no longer showed deranged mineral transport AND his diagnosis was removed, as he healed. We also changed many lifestyle elements to decrease exposures, such as organic foods, avoiding pesticides/herbicides, switching to flame retardant free mattress, bedding, sleepwear, etc. The low elements on the hair test may (or may not) mean anything - depends on the whole picture. Look in the files section to see if the counting rules are listed. > > just got hair elements from DDI, > > arsenic is about 94th percentile, and the only other toxic element is antimony ~70th (just into the yellow). lead is about 66th percentile, but still in green. I want to chelate, but right now my son is only pooping every 3rd day. What would be the best approach? I read that DMPS or DMSA with ALA is most effective for arsenic? Should I be worried about lead/antimony at this level or just focus on the arsenic? Does anyone have any success/recoverys stories chelating arsenic? > > I was also very surprised to see extremely low values of a few elements.. > Strontium 2th % > Calcium - 3th % > Copper - 7th % > Zinc - 10th % > > can the high arsenic cause malabsorption of these specific elements? > > my 3 yr old son is hf asd and has gut issues (yeast/bacteria) and constipation and some sensory issues, but is verbal with quirky speech and slight social delay. not really any blatant arsenic toxicity symptoms, except maybe some fatigue. no vaccinations. we think the source of arsenic is industrial, since we live down the street from the highest measured level of arsenic in the air in the state of oregon. > > thanks for any advice > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Sandy, You need a script to get one. Once you have the script its good for life so keep it in a safe place.  Some are that expensive others are not. you just need to research it.  I got a boulder style mattress from whitelotus.net (http://www.whitelotus.net/organic-cotton-mattress-no-flame-retardant/)  we love it - their twin size are around $900 and used to include shipping - check on that as I don't know if it still does or not. they also have a stowaway/roll up size for travel or sleepovers.  Amy  From: mosaictm <lisa369@...> Subject: [ ] Re: hair test results - high arsenic & low Ca/Cu/Zn Received: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 12:57 PM  Does the hair test meet the counting rules for deranged mineral transport? Where is the mercury level? My child had high arsenic and antimony, too. He did meet the counting rules, so I assumed mercury was high, though he wasn't excreting it in his hair. We did not have lead issues. Is the lead above or below the reference range number? We used ALA only for chelation. In about 2.5 years, my child's arsenic and antimony were well below the reference ranges and he no longer showed deranged mineral transport AND his diagnosis was removed, as he healed. We also changed many lifestyle elements to decrease exposures, such as organic foods, avoiding pesticides/herbicides, switching to flame retardant free mattress, bedding, sleepwear, etc. The low elements on the hair test may (or may not) mean anything - depends on the whole picture. Look in the files section to see if the counting rules are listed. > > just got hair elements from DDI, > > arsenic is about 94th percentile, and the only other toxic element is antimony ~70th (just into the yellow). lead is about 66th percentile, but still in green. I want to chelate, but right now my son is only pooping every 3rd day. What would be the best approach? I read that DMPS or DMSA with ALA is most effective for arsenic? Should I be worried about lead/antimony at this level or just focus on the arsenic? Does anyone have any success/recoverys stories chelating arsenic? > > I was also very surprised to see extremely low values of a few elements.. > Strontium 2th % > Calcium - 3th % > Copper - 7th % > Zinc - 10th % > > can the high arsenic cause malabsorption of these specific elements? > > my 3 yr old son is hf asd and has gut issues (yeast/bacteria) and constipation and some sensory issues, but is verbal with quirky speech and slight social delay. not really any blatant arsenic toxicity symptoms, except maybe some fatigue. no vaccinations. we think the source of arsenic is industrial, since we live down the street from the highest measured level of arsenic in the air in the state of oregon. > > thanks for any advice > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 hI i LIVE IN cANAda From: mosaictm <lisa369@...> Subject: [ ] Re: hair test results - high arsenic & low Ca/Cu/Zn Received: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 12:57 PM Â Does the hair test meet the counting rules for deranged mineral transport? Where is the mercury level? My child had high arsenic and antimony, too. He did meet the counting rules, so I assumed mercury was high, though he wasn't excreting it in his hair. We did not have lead issues. Is the lead above or below the reference range number? We used ALA only for chelation. In about 2.5 years, my child's arsenic and antimony were well below the reference ranges and he no longer showed deranged mineral transport AND his diagnosis was removed, as he healed. We also changed many lifestyle elements to decrease exposures, such as organic foods, avoiding pesticides/herbicides, switching to flame retardant free mattress, bedding, sleepwear, etc. The low elements on the hair test may (or may not) mean anything - depends on the whole picture. Look in the files section to see if the counting rules are listed. > > just got hair elements from DDI, > > arsenic is about 94th percentile, and the only other toxic element is antimony ~70th (just into the yellow). lead is about 66th percentile, but still in green. I want to chelate, but right now my son is only pooping every 3rd day. What would be the best approach? I read that DMPS or DMSA with ALA is most effective for arsenic? Should I be worried about lead/antimony at this level or just focus on the arsenic? Does anyone have any success/recoverys stories chelating arsenic? > > I was also very surprised to see extremely low values of a few elements.. > Strontium 2th % > Calcium - 3th % > Copper - 7th % > Zinc - 10th % > > can the high arsenic cause malabsorption of these specific elements? > > my 3 yr old son is hf asd and has gut issues (yeast/bacteria) and constipation and some sensory issues, but is verbal with quirky speech and slight social delay. not really any blatant arsenic toxicity symptoms, except maybe some fatigue. no vaccinations. we think the source of arsenic is industrial, since we live down the street from the highest measured level of arsenic in the air in the state of oregon. > > thanks for any advice > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Can you please share the gains you saw with the mattress . what were the changes you saw. Does it make that much of a difference? thanks From: mosaictm <lisa369@...> Subject: [ ] Re: hair test results - high arsenic & low Ca/Cu/Zn Received: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 12:57 PM  Does the hair test meet the counting rules for deranged mineral transport? Where is the mercury level? My child had high arsenic and antimony, too. He did meet the counting rules, so I assumed mercury was high, though he wasn't excreting it in his hair. We did not have lead issues. Is the lead above or below the reference range number? We used ALA only for chelation. In about 2.5 years, my child's arsenic and antimony were well below the reference ranges and he no longer showed deranged mineral transport AND his diagnosis was removed, as he healed. We also changed many lifestyle elements to decrease exposures, such as organic foods, avoiding pesticides/herbicides, switching to flame retardant free mattress, bedding, sleepwear, etc. The low elements on the hair test may (or may not) mean anything - depends on the whole picture. Look in the files section to see if the counting rules are listed. > > just got hair elements from DDI, > > arsenic is about 94th percentile, and the only other toxic element is antimony ~70th (just into the yellow). lead is about 66th percentile, but still in green. I want to chelate, but right now my son is only pooping every 3rd day. What would be the best approach? I read that DMPS or DMSA with ALA is most effective for arsenic? Should I be worried about lead/antimony at this level or just focus on the arsenic? Does anyone have any success/recoverys stories chelating arsenic? > > I was also very surprised to see extremely low values of a few elements.. > Strontium 2th % > Calcium - 3th % > Copper - 7th % > Zinc - 10th % > > can the high arsenic cause malabsorption of these specific elements? > > my 3 yr old son is hf asd and has gut issues (yeast/bacteria) and constipation and some sensory issues, but is verbal with quirky speech and slight social delay. not really any blatant arsenic toxicity symptoms, except maybe some fatigue. no vaccinations. we think the source of arsenic is industrial, since we live down the street from the highest measured level of arsenic in the air in the state of oregon. > > thanks for any advice > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 the mercury level was around 40% percentile, presumably because he is unvaccinated and we don't have amalgams. the counting rules were not met. the lead is just within the reference range (inside green). i just ordered a rbc elements test to verify the low minerals. i am glad to hear of your success! why did you decide to chelate with ALA only? > > > > just got hair elements from DDI, > > > > arsenic is about 94th percentile, and the only other toxic element is antimony ~70th (just into the yellow). lead is about 66th percentile, but still in green. I want to chelate, but right now my son is only pooping every 3rd day. What would be the best approach? I read that DMPS or DMSA with ALA is most effective for arsenic? Should I be worried about lead/antimony at this level or just focus on the arsenic? Does anyone have any success/recoverys stories chelating arsenic? > > > > I was also very surprised to see extremely low values of a few elements.. > > Strontium 2th % > > Calcium - 3th % > > Copper - 7th % > > Zinc - 10th % > > > > can the high arsenic cause malabsorption of these specific elements? > > > > my 3 yr old son is hf asd and has gut issues (yeast/bacteria) and constipation and some sensory issues, but is verbal with quirky speech and slight social delay. not really any blatant arsenic toxicity symptoms, except maybe some fatigue. no vaccinations. we think the source of arsenic is industrial, since we live down the street from the highest measured level of arsenic in the air in the state of oregon. > > > > thanks for any advice > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 We purchased an organic full size mattress and box spring for my 11 months ago. The cost was about $1300. His last hair test showed practically no antimony (we've been chelating with ALA for 2 years), and his ASD dx was removed this past fall. Worth EVERY penny. > > > > > > just got hair elements from DDI, > > > > > > arsenic is about 94th percentile, and the only other toxic element is antimony ~70th (just into the yellow). lead is about 66th percentile, but still in green. I want to chelate, but right now my son is only pooping every 3rd day. What would be the best approach? I read that DMPS or DMSA with ALA is most effective for arsenic? Should I be worried about lead/antimony at this level or just focus on the arsenic? Does anyone have any success/recoverys stories chelating arsenic? > > > > > > I was also very surprised to see extremely low values of a few elements.. > > > Strontium 2th % > > > Calcium - 3th % > > > Copper - 7th % > > > Zinc - 10th % > > > > > > can the high arsenic cause malabsorption of these specific elements? > > > > > > my 3 yr old son is hf asd and has gut issues (yeast/bacteria) and constipation and some sensory issues, but is verbal with quirky speech and slight social delay. not really any blatant arsenic toxicity symptoms, except maybe some fatigue. no vaccinations. we think the source of arsenic is industrial, since we live down the street from the highest measured level of arsenic in the air in the state of oregon. > > > > > > thanks for any advice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I used ALA only because my son had no need for DMSA that I could ascertain (never had amalgams, hadn't had vaccines in the 2 years prior, lead levels were not high). I also use (controversial, I know, but don't care) AK or muscle testing and my son tested as a " no " for DMSA. Regardless, it worked. BEAUTIFULLY. > > > > > > just got hair elements from DDI, > > > > > > arsenic is about 94th percentile, and the only other toxic element is antimony ~70th (just into the yellow). lead is about 66th percentile, but still in green. I want to chelate, but right now my son is only pooping every 3rd day. What would be the best approach? I read that DMPS or DMSA with ALA is most effective for arsenic? Should I be worried about lead/antimony at this level or just focus on the arsenic? Does anyone have any success/recoverys stories chelating arsenic? > > > > > > I was also very surprised to see extremely low values of a few elements.. > > > Strontium 2th % > > > Calcium - 3th % > > > Copper - 7th % > > > Zinc - 10th % > > > > > > can the high arsenic cause malabsorption of these specific elements? > > > > > > my 3 yr old son is hf asd and has gut issues (yeast/bacteria) and constipation and some sensory issues, but is verbal with quirky speech and slight social delay. not really any blatant arsenic toxicity symptoms, except maybe some fatigue. no vaccinations. we think the source of arsenic is industrial, since we live down the street from the highest measured level of arsenic in the air in the state of oregon. > > > > > > thanks for any advice > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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