Re: 1 year of biomedical treatment - need advice!

[Guest guest]

since you know he has adrenal issues you should join

naturalthyroidhormonesadrenals

 

valerie there is really good with adrenal issues and thyroid issues..sometimes

they say thyroid is ok and in fact it is not..with my daughter they said her

thryoid was ok..and it was if you were looking at ADULT ranges..when i looked at

the range for a 13 yr old she was NOT ok....

 

and when looking at your supplement list i see zinc..and zinc will lower

cortisol.if cortisol it already on the low end zinc can lower it too much...

From: krottenbach22 <krottenbach22@...>

Subject: [ ] 1 year of biomedical treatment - need advice!

Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 5:41 PM

 

Hello All!

My son is 10 and severely autistic. His speech is limited to requests, he has no

interest in any activity, only running around the house, sprinkling water,

stimming. He is on GFCF and sugar-free diet since December 2009.

I have some major concerns about him:

He stopped growing since we started the diet. His teeth stopped changing. We

checked his thyroid, the tests came back normal. They did change before diet.

His milk intake was not big at that time, and I didn't give him additional

calcium before. Now he gets it even more.

Why his teeth stopped changing?

Should we start something therapeutically for his thyroid?

We checked his cortisol, and it was abnormal. If we start AdrenErgizer will this

also help thyroid and improve his growth?

Also, he developed occasional toe walking. What could be reason for this?

He developed " goose skin " all over his body - shoulders, back, elbows, hips,

under knees. What it can be?

He is taking the following supps:

Enzymes and Probiotics, Milk Thistle

Vitamin A, E, C, B50, B5, P5P, biotin

Magnesium, Zinc, Selen, Calcium, Molybdenum

MB12, folinic, TMG

DHA, PhosChol,

Lauricidin.

GSE and Oil of Oregano - according to symptoms of candida.

We did 10 rounds of frequent dose chelation with 5mg of DMSA. Right after taking

the first dose, he played a pretend game first time in our life. But it was the

only single episode. Does it mean that :

1. He needs higher dose, or

2. I need to wait 50-70 rounds that candida will get down and I will see more

progress?

We tried antivirals: OLE and ViraStop. With ViraStop, he complained about

stomach pain, and actually cried right after taking a capsule. What this could

mean, any idea would be greatly appreciated.

With OLE I saw no obvious changes.

Actually, I do not see any good changes in him during this year. The only

difference is that he became calmer when we took sugar away. But, he is often

excausted, He depends on enzymes, otherwise gets reflux. When he coughs

occasionally, he holds his stomach and says it hurts.

In terms of play and activity he actually regressed. He doesn't want to go on

the playground. He watches his baby video fifth year in a row, and listens to

his preschool CDs as always.

I am planning to keep on chelation, but I am not sure what else should I do to

help him to progress. Now he still doesn't develop any new skills. I know that

we lost many years, and he is a big boy with autism, but I still want to help

him.

I will appreciate any advice,

Thank you so much in advance,

.

[Guest guest]

We have been more impressed with ALA alone, rather than DMSA alone.

________________________________

From: dawn volz <dawnv5@...>

Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 7:46:49 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] 1 year of biomedical treatment - need advice!

since you know he has adrenal issues you should join

naturalthyroidhormonesadrenals

valerie there is really good with adrenal issues and thyroid issues..sometimes

they say thyroid is ok and in fact it is not..with my daughter they said her

thryoid was ok..and it was if you were looking at ADULT ranges..when i looked at

the range for a 13 yr old she was NOT ok....

and when looking at your supplement list i see zinc..and zinc will lower

cortisol.if cortisol it already on the low end zinc can lower it too much...

From: krottenbach22 <krottenbach22@...>

Subject: [ ] 1 year of biomedical treatment - need advice!

Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 5:41 PM

Hello All!

My son is 10 and severely autistic. His speech is limited to requests, he has no

interest in any activity, only running around the house, sprinkling water,

stimming. He is on GFCF and sugar-free diet since December 2009.

I have some major concerns about him:

He stopped growing since we started the diet. His teeth stopped changing. We

checked his thyroid, the tests came back normal. They did change before diet.

His milk intake was not big at that time, and I didn't give him additional

calcium before. Now he gets it even more.

Why his teeth stopped changing?

Should we start something therapeutically for his thyroid?

We checked his cortisol, and it was abnormal. If we start AdrenErgizer will this

also help thyroid and improve his growth?

Also, he developed occasional toe walking. What could be reason for this?

He developed " goose skin " all over his body - shoulders, back, elbows, hips,

under knees. What it can be?

He is taking the following supps:

Enzymes and Probiotics, Milk Thistle

Vitamin A, E, C, B50, B5, P5P, biotin

Magnesium, Zinc, Selen, Calcium, Molybdenum

MB12, folinic, TMG

DHA, PhosChol,

Lauricidin.

GSE and Oil of Oregano - according to symptoms of candida.

We did 10 rounds of frequent dose chelation with 5mg of DMSA. Right after taking

the first dose, he played a pretend game first time in our life. But it was the

only single episode. Does it mean that :

1. He needs higher dose, or

2. I need to wait 50-70 rounds that candida will get down and I will see more

progress?

We tried antivirals: OLE and ViraStop. With ViraStop, he complained about

stomach pain, and actually cried right after taking a capsule. What this could

mean, any idea would be greatly appreciated.

With OLE I saw no obvious changes.

Actually, I do not see any good changes in him during this year. The only

difference is that he became calmer when we took sugar away. But, he is often

excausted, He depends on enzymes, otherwise gets reflux. When he coughs

occasionally, he holds his stomach and says it hurts.

In terms of play and activity he actually regressed. He doesn't want to go on

the playground. He watches his baby video fifth year in a row, and listens to

his preschool CDs as always.

I am planning to keep on chelation, but I am not sure what else should I do to

help him to progress. Now he still doesn't develop any new skills. I know that

we lost many years, and he is a big boy with autism, but I still want to help

him.

I will appreciate any advice,

Thank you so much in advance,

.

[Guest guest]

Virastop is high protease, it probably meant it was hurting him

Mandi in UK

In a message dated 26/02/2011 23:41:55 GMT Standard Time,

krottenbach22@... writes:

We tried antivirals: OLE and ViraStop. With ViraStop, he complained about

stomach pain, and actually cried right after taking a capsule. What this

could mean, any idea would be greatly appreciated.

[Guest guest]

I'm not quite sure I know what you mean by " his teeth stopped changing, " but

I can tell you that after my son had his vaccine reaction, his teeth began

de-mineralizing. Most likely because after that his body was either not

absolving calcium from his gut properly and his body started pulling calcium

from his teeth..

[Guest guest]

Thanks everyone for the answers. By saying that teeth don't change I mean his

baby teeth do not fall out and adult teech do not grow. This process started at

about 8 years, quite late as far as I know. But since we started diet it

stopped.

I do not know whether it is typical for a child to have some regression in the

first year of diet and supplement intake.

San

>

> I'm not quite sure I know what you mean by " his teeth stopped changing, " but

> I can tell you that after my son had his vaccine reaction, his teeth began

> de-mineralizing. Most likely because after that his body was either not

> absolving calcium from his gut properly and his body started pulling calcium

> from his teeth..

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, i've not started chelating yet, but I'm guessing you have a way to go. On

the teeth issue, we introduced raw butter oil and cod liver oil and also brush

after meals with a v diluted mix of Dr Schulze's Tooth and Gum formula. It has

to be rapid grown young grass raw butter oil or something like that, in tiny

amounts (which is good cos it's a little pricey)--i forget the brand--raw

pastures gold or something like that, from non hormone no antibiotic cows etc.

Weston Price recommended it, someone developed this specific product, and since

my son is GFCF I was reluctant, but willing (lots of tooth chipping at v young

age). He has shown no signs of casein reaction in the 6 mos or so we've used it

(I also introduced very very very slowly in teeny tiny amounts over long period,

so took me sev months to work up to 1/8 teaspoon recommended dose). The rest of

teeth that came in are perfect little pearlies. The two earliest that chipped

are still in bad shape, but look like they're stabilizing. There's a book

someone recommended here, and I love it: Ramiel Nagel's Reversing Tooth Decay or

something like that. I also just bought his Healing Our Children and it's so

inspiring and uplifting. After seeing my son's teeth progress, I'm gonna start

doing this protocol on myself. I was still skeptical, but there are biological

dentists using it with success and I heard of a client of my health guy who's 70

and her teeth were in awful awful shape, she had to lose some of them, but last

checkup with her bio dentist, her teeth had restored their enamel.

On the behavioral stuff, you prob already do this, but can you play to his

strengths? He loves music and water--swim lessons? musical toys. There are books

for kids with special needs and teaching them to swim. Helps with lungs, which

in turn helps get extra oxygen to brain.

Stay strong.

best wishes,

Fiona

>

> Hello All!

>

> My son is 10 and severely autistic. His speech is limited to requests, he has

no interest in any activity, only running around the house, sprinkling water,

stimming. He is on GFCF and sugar-free diet since December 2009.

>

> I have some major concerns about him:

>

> He stopped growing since we started the diet. His teeth stopped changing. We

checked his thyroid, the tests came back normal. They did change before diet.

His milk intake was not big at that time, and I didn't give him additional

calcium before. Now he gets it even more.

>

> Why his teeth stopped changing?

> Should we start something therapeutically for his thyroid?

>

> We checked his cortisol, and it was abnormal. If we start AdrenErgizer will

this also help thyroid and improve his growth?

>

> Also, he developed occasional toe walking. What could be reason for this?

> He developed " goose skin " all over his body - shoulders, back, elbows, hips,

under knees. What it can be?

>

> He is taking the following supps:

>

> Enzymes and Probiotics, Milk Thistle

> Vitamin A, E, C, B50, B5, P5P, biotin

> Magnesium, Zinc, Selen, Calcium, Molybdenum

> MB12, folinic, TMG

> DHA, PhosChol,

> Lauricidin.

>

> GSE and Oil of Oregano - according to symptoms of candida.

>

> We did 10 rounds of frequent dose chelation with 5mg of DMSA. Right after

taking the first dose, he played a pretend game first time in our life. But it

was the only single episode. Does it mean that :

> 1. He needs higher dose, or

> 2. I need to wait 50-70 rounds that candida will get down and I will see more

progress?

>

> We tried antivirals: OLE and ViraStop. With ViraStop, he complained about

stomach pain, and actually cried right after taking a capsule. What this could

mean, any idea would be greatly appreciated.

> With OLE I saw no obvious changes.

>

> Actually, I do not see any good changes in him during this year. The only

difference is that he became calmer when we took sugar away. But, he is often

excausted, He depends on enzymes, otherwise gets reflux. When he coughs

occasionally, he holds his stomach and says it hurts.

> In terms of play and activity he actually regressed. He doesn't want to go on

the playground. He watches his baby video fifth year in a row, and listens to

his preschool CDs as always.

>

> I am planning to keep on chelation, but I am not sure what else should I do to

help him to progress. Now he still doesn't develop any new skills. I know that

we lost many years, and he is a big boy with autism, but I still want to help

him.

> I will appreciate any advice,

>

> Thank you so much in advance,

> .

>

[Guest guest]

> Thanks everyone for the answers. By saying that teeth don't change I mean his

baby teeth do not fall out

This was caused by hypothyroid at my house. I corrected it with selenium,

iodine, and tyrosine.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Dana!

What do you think about this brand?

http://www.iherb.com/Thorne-Research-Iodine-Tyrosine-60-Veggie-Caps/18473?at=0

http://www.iherb.com/Thorne-Research-Selenium-Picolinate-200-mcg-60-Veggie-Caps/\

18442?at=0

Best regards,

San

________________________________

From: danasview <danasview@...>

Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 5:18:15 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: 1 year of biomedical treatment - need advice!

 

> Thanks everyone for the answers. By saying that teeth don't change I mean his

>baby teeth do not fall out

This was caused by hypothyroid at my house. I corrected it with selenium,

iodine, and tyrosine.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Can you give us the doseages Dana?

> > Thanks everyone for the answers. By saying that teeth don't change I mean

his baby teeth do not fall out

>

>

> This was caused by hypothyroid at my house. I corrected it with selenium,

iodine, and tyrosine.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> Thanks, Dana!

> What do you think about this brand?

Thorne is a good brand, I have never read anything negative about it.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Can you give us the doseages Dana?

Selenium, I started with 50mcg and worked up to 200mcg for one child, 100mcg for

the other kids.

Iodine, I started with 1/4 of a 225mcg tablet, worked up to a whole tablet for

two kids, 1/2 tablet for the other two.

Tyrosine, started with 1/4 of a 500mg capsule, worked up to a whole capsule for

one child, 1/2 capsule for the other kids.

[Guest guest]

Fiona,

For swimming as with learning to swallow pills, we used PECS and did a

story, and then we demonstrated over and over. Our son was motivated to

swallow pills because he hated the taste of the " mash " with his supplements

in it. He always loved the water, and he saw me go under and then was

motivated for that. He doesn't like the water on his eyes, so I got him a

mask that held his nose closed. I always had a towel ready by the pool so

that when he came up, he could take the mask off and wipe his eyes. so for

new skils we use visual stories and lots of demonstration. For pill

swallowing, you can buy empty capsules for practice.

For my son thereis often a LOT of whining when learning something new, and

he will say " I can't " and I say, " yes, you can. " It took a lot of patience

and just getting through the whining and the crying. After a few days, he

did it! Now he likes to swim under all the time. Then we worked on dog

paddling and doing strokes, but as this point I enrolled him in the Red

Cross swimming class. He graduated out of level on last summer, and the

graduation prize was to go down one of the water slides (this one was windy

and slow and came out in the shallow end. He loved it. We will take him to

level two this summer. The Red Cross instructors where great.

[Guest guest]

Haven, that's totally cool on the swim stuff. Congrats to your son! What's PECS?

Our son is obviously a total waterhound. Anything and everything water--i think

he loves the mobility (he's not quite walking on his own at 22 mos). Will look

into the red cross classes. They have classes here on the base and they're open

to having our son (he's like a celebrity there, since they can't believe he's

walking at all and so mobile in the water). So we're gonna enroll him in the

next one that comes up. One of the dads had his kid in a stage 2 flotation

device and this really cool ear/head-band that covered his ears to prevent water

from going in. Gotta get me one of those.

best wishes,

Fiona

>

> Fiona,

>

> For swimming as with learning to swallow pills, we used PECS and did a

> story, and then we demonstrated over and over. Our son was motivated to

> swallow pills because he hated the taste of the " mash " with his supplements

> in it. He always loved the water, and he saw me go under and then was

> motivated for that. He doesn't like the water on his eyes, so I got him a

> mask that held his nose closed. I always had a towel ready by the pool so

> that when he came up, he could take the mask off and wipe his eyes. so for

> new skils we use visual stories and lots of demonstration. For pill

> swallowing, you can buy empty capsules for practice.

>

> For my son thereis often a LOT of whining when learning something new, and

> he will say " I can't " and I say, " yes, you can. " It took a lot of patience

> and just getting through the whining and the crying. After a few days, he

> did it! Now he likes to swim under all the time. Then we worked on dog

> paddling and doing strokes, but as this point I enrolled him in the Red

> Cross swimming class. He graduated out of level on last summer, and the

> graduation prize was to go down one of the water slides (this one was windy

> and slow and came out in the shallow end. He loved it. We will take him to

> level two this summer. The Red Cross instructors where great.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think, the whole trick with biomedical is to balance antiviral and anti yeast

protocol. Too much antivirals will cause yeast flare and vice verse. Are you

giving too much antivirals? Lauricidin/OLE/ vit D/ A are all strong antivirals.

You have to have a good yeast protocol for this. I would say 200 - 250 mg GSE

and 10 mg biotin 3 times a day. See Dana's web site for antiviral protocol info.

It is possible that you do not see any gains because of viral die off and yeast

flare. 

When I started my son on GFCF, low sugar diet he didn't grow or gain weight for

almost 2 years. I believe viruses/yeast do not have chance to feed on as much

carbs anymore. They start take everything from the body. We 've got not just

" starving brain " but a starving child. This situation taxes adrenals a lot!

Adrenerjise will help, just go " low and slow " . Also one can not fix thyroid

without fixing adrenals.

Another thing to look at is vit Bs. He needs them but can he utilize them. If

not it also can cause all sorts of issues...

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Marina,

Thanks for your input, it's really helpful.  Even though

we have  Lauricidin/OLE/ vit D/ A on board, I think the viruses are still

strong

within my son's body. I suspect I see no gains because of them, they are still

burdening him. I just do not know how to pull them out of him because VS from

Enzymedica gave very strong adverse reaction on his gut linings.

We'll try Adrenergizer, thanks for advice!  

San

 

 

 

________________________________

From: Marina <marina1732000@...>

Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 4:27:02 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: 1 year of biomedical treatment - need advice!

I think, the whole trick with biomedical is to balance antiviral and anti yeast

protocol. Too much antivirals will cause yeast flare and vice verse. Are you

giving too much antivirals?  are all strong antivirals. You have to have a good

yeast protocol for this. I would say 200 - 250 mg GSE and 10 mg biotin 3 times a

day. See Dana's web site for antiviral protocol info. It is possible that you

do

not see any gains because of viral die off and yeast flare. 

When I started my son on GFCF, low sugar diet he didn't grow or gain weight for

almost 2 years. I believe viruses/yeast do not have chance to feed on as much

carbs anymore. They start take everything from the body. We 've got not just

" starving brain " but a starving child. This situation taxes adrenals a lot!

Adrenerjise will help, just go " low and slow " . Also one can not fix thyroid

without fixing adrenals.

Another thing to look at is vit Bs. He needs them but can he utilize them. If

not it also can cause all sorts of issues...

 

[Guest guest]

Fiona,

Yes, I forgot. We also found the wax ear plugs because he hates getting

water in his ears, and you know they wind up with an infection that way,

too, so we make sure his ears are plugged.

We just put up one of the WalMart pools in the summer for use here, so we

can go to the public pool where he takes lessons, but we can't be there when

it gets too crowded.

It used to be we couldn't go because he would not use a public bathroom, but

he got over that at least. When will designers learn to wire the lights and

the fans SEPARATELY!? It is pretty hard to take a kid to a public bathroom

when the fan is too painful for them to hear, but they need the light to go

to the bathroom! And the new power blower fans! People just have no clue!

Yes, Ethan, too has always loved water. He absolutely loves to swim. But

he has to have the ear plugs and he prefers to have a mask on. If he

doesn't have the mask, I have to have a towel nearby so he can wipe his eyes

off when he comes up.

We too the whole summer about three summers ago, and our home goals were to

swallow pills and go under water. There was a lot of modeling both, a lot

of whining, and some crying, but every time he's say, " I can't. " I'd say,

" Yes, you can. Try again. " He would tell me " Go under again. " And I knew

he was really watching me -- I mean he was probably looking at each and

every detail. It really took less than two weeks for him to master both

goals, but I really had to steel myself from the whining/crying.

It just made me realize that this was a part of him learning a new skill

because of his anxiety level, and you have to realize that many in the

public sector just do not have high expectations for these kids and do

little to instill self confidence in them.

When we started home school, I tested him at K/first grade level in

comprehension skills and he has done so well with " Reading Milestones " that

he has moved to the next level. But the best part is that I see the

confidence in himself finally building.

For some repetition doesn't work, but here, repetition has often helped

learn new skills. Our son has always been one who watches and learns that

way, so modeling has been a good way to teach.

Since your child is so young and loves the water, you have got to teach how

to hold their breath under water and at least dog paddling. One of our

motivations was that we have a pond on our farm, and that was a worry. Even

though we are careful and watch him closely, we just knew the water skills

were a must for safety reasons.

I think your child will be a natural and will catch on quickly. Just wait,

once he learns this skill, he will love going under the water. It is

peaceful under there. I know swimming under is even very relaxing for me.

It is very sensory calming. We may have kids who one day love to scuba

dive!

For our pool we did not use chlorine and we didn't use the salt water one

either as it used copper sulfate. My husband found something different

--supposedly more natural that worked great. I will have to ask him the

name of it.

Haven

[Guest guest]

Haven,

Thanks for sharing your experience in teaching your son to swim. My son is 10

and too loves water. However, he hates to get his face wet and go under and we

have been working on that for a long time! We don't have a pool and should

probably get a new house with one this time

I love the way you encourage him and you have the patience of a saint Now I

know we just have to keep trying and give him more confidence in learning new

skills.

Thanks again!

April

Re: [ ] Re: 1 year of biomedical treatment - need

advice!

Fiona,

Yes, I forgot. We also found the wax ear plugs because he hates getting

water in his ears, and you know they wind up with an infection that way,

too, so we make sure his ears are plugged.

We just put up one of the WalMart pools in the summer for use here, so we

can go to the public pool where he takes lessons, but we can't be there when

it gets too crowded.

It used to be we couldn't go because he would not use a public bathroom, but

he got over that at least. When will designers learn to wire the lights and

the fans SEPARATELY!? It is pretty hard to take a kid to a public bathroom

when the fan is too painful for them to hear, but they need the light to go

to the bathroom! And the new power blower fans! People just have no clue!

Yes, Ethan, too has always loved water. He absolutely loves to swim. But

he has to have the ear plugs and he prefers to have a mask on. If he

doesn't have the mask, I have to have a towel nearby so he can wipe his eyes

off when he comes up.

We too the whole summer about three summers ago, and our home goals were to

swallow pills and go under water. There was a lot of modeling both, a lot

of whining, and some crying, but every time he's say, " I can't. " I'd say,

" Yes, you can. Try again. " He would tell me " Go under again. " And I knew

he was really watching me -- I mean he was probably looking at each and

every detail. It really took less than two weeks for him to master both

goals, but I really had to steel myself from the whining/crying.

It just made me realize that this was a part of him learning a new skill

because of his anxiety level, and you have to realize that many in the

public sector just do not have high expectations for these kids and do

little to instill self confidence in them.

When we started home school, I tested him at K/first grade level in

comprehension skills and he has done so well with " Reading Milestones " that

he has moved to the next level. But the best part is that I see the

confidence in himself finally building.

For some repetition doesn't work, but here, repetition has often helped

learn new skills. Our son has always been one who watches and learns that

way, so modeling has been a good way to teach.

Since your child is so young and loves the water, you have got to teach how

to hold their breath under water and at least dog paddling. One of our

motivations was that we have a pond on our farm, and that was a worry. Even

though we are careful and watch him closely, we just knew the water skills

were a must for safety reasons.

I think your child will be a natural and will catch on quickly. Just wait,

once he learns this skill, he will love going under the water. It is

peaceful under there. I know swimming under is even very relaxing for me.

It is very sensory calming. We may have kids who one day love to scuba

dive!

For our pool we did not use chlorine and we didn't use the salt water one

either as it used copper sulfate. My husband found something different

--supposedly more natural that worked great. I will have to ask him the

name of it.

Haven

[Guest guest]

Try a good mask, ear plugs, have the towel ready. Wal-Mart sells the blow

up pools. We got one about 16 ft across by 3.5 feet deep, and we put it up

every year. So then he gets to swim every day. We put it where it catches

some shade and I can sit in the shade if I want to or be in the pool. My so

still will remove his mask every time he comes up and wipe his face. That's

okay. I can live with that.

My dad used to say I had the patience of Job.

I had a horse get lost once. I searched for her over a month on my parents'

ranch, expecting to find a dead body at least. I even talked a guy at the

local airport into taking me up in his plane and flying over. The horse had

got separated from the herd somehow and got off the property into

International Paper Company forest. She had existed on pine needles for

food. She was emaciated and disoriented. I needed to get her back to where

I lived to restore her health. The isolation had made her kind of crazy.

She wouldn't get in the trailer. I tried various things that didn't work.

My dad helped a while. My brother helped a while. Various cowboys stopped

by and thought they could mistreat her into that trailer. Of course that

didn't work and I put a stop to that thinking.

My dad and brother left and it was just me and my friend who kept trying. I

finally fixed up a little chute and backed the trailer up to the mouth of it

and put her in the chute and put a strong long behind her. My dad came back

and we had been at trying to get her in that trailer for four and half

hours.

My dad said, " By God, you've got the patience of Job. I'd have shot that

horse three hours ago. " But I got him and my brother to help again and we

pushed that log behind her and literally pushed her into the trailer. WE got

the door closed and she was letting it be known she did not like it in

there. I just calmly got in the truck and started off down the rode with

that trailer rockin' and swaying her protests. She finally calmed down. I

got her back and restored her to full health and beauty.

When I make my mind up to do something, I do it. It always helps if someone

tells me I will fail or that it can't be done. Then I get really mad and

energized and prove them wrong.

If you want someone or something to do something, you have to create an

environment in which they will want to do, make it the best desirable

choice. Force never works. Most people don't have the patience and give up

too quickly for many things. If you find you've reached your limit, then

stop the lesson and take it up again the next day. When you stop. Do or

practice a skill your child can do, so that you end your " lesson " time on a

positive note.

Try finding something your child would like that sinks. We threw change on

the bottom of the pool and told him if he gathered the change then we would

go to the store and he could buy something. That was a great motivator.

[Guest guest]

> Thanks for sharing your experience in teaching your son to swim. My son is 10

and too loves water. However, he hates to get his face wet and go under and we

have been working on that for a long time! We don't have a pool and should

probably get a new house with one this time

My son had this issue. I bought him an inexpensive mask and snorkel, and let

him use it in the bathtub as well as swimming pool. He loves it and will go

under water without problems now.

Dana