Re: Another study linking Thimerosal/vaccines to brain damage, government

[Guest guest]

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I think we have to find a way to hold them accountable in a round about way

--- say like...Al Capone did many bad things, even murder, but they couldn't

get him on that, so then finally they put him away for tax evasion instead.

We have to find some other way to sue them rather than vaccine damage.

I'd like to sue them for " familiacide " as my son is the only male heir to

carry on the family name, and he may never get to have children of his own,

so in effect they cut our family tree and wiped it out.

Any ideas?

[Guest guest]

This is an interesting approach. Any lawyers or law savvy people out there with

a good idea on how to get around the red tape while suing the vaccine companies?

From: hdelay@...

Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 23:50:45 -0500

Subject: Re: [ ] Another study linking Thimerosal/vaccines to brain

damage, government

,

I think we have to find a way to hold them accountable in a round about way

--- say like...Al Capone did many bad things, even murder, but they couldn't

get him on that, so then finally they put him away for tax evasion instead.

We have to find some other way to sue them rather than vaccine damage.

I'd like to sue them for " familiacide " as my son is the only male heir to

carry on the family name, and he may never get to have children of his own,

so in effect they cut our family tree and wiped it out.

Any ideas?

[Guest guest]

If everyone did just a little bit more than they are doing now it would probably

get the job done? .. . (Amount to a lot? where we all do out bit? so appeal to

the people, work with the people, more directly, and not so much through

middlemen/politicians?) More what? More of what is meaningful and just.. Here

and there, you know what I mean (Do what you can? without compromising your

principles, of what we're about in that respect, of the means justifies the end,

the end we deserve

Don't be sad or disappointed with that, what is so perfect, that life could be

better otherwise.

Best wishes Haven, and to your family. I believe you'll live on one way or the

other of what is so true, that living on in a world otherwise would be worth,

whatever? So see where principle and doing y/our best takes you, us, in

that/this respect. I'll work with you in that respect.

I figure hearing from you is doing your part. Let's do more. I'm all for It

(That justice is being served anywhere else, or should be, by any other?) and

intend to do so, whether I live on otherwise or not (Mark that as my cause of

death? My cause of Life!) That'd be going, wherever, the right way I figure, and

probably to the right place, wherever that might be, of as much, that I really

know, that I really understand, as much as I can, of being about as much so

just.. .

I figure fighting for justice (what it means? I figure I Know) will get us what

we deserve. What else should matter

I'll keep hammering away on this board in that respect if that suits you

especially.

Glavic

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> I think we have to find a way to hold them accountable in a round about way

> --- say like...Al Capone did many bad things, even murder, but they couldn't

> get him on that, so then finally they put him away for tax evasion instead.

> We have to find some other way to sue them rather than vaccine damage.

>

> I'd like to sue them for " familiacide " as my son is the only male heir to

> carry on the family name, and he may never get to have children of his own,

> so in effect they cut our family tree and wiped it out.

>

> Any ideas?

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[Guest guest]

Where we want to represent ourselves (and not be overcharged and further abused,

that we could keep up with those vested in as much) I don't think that would

work so well. The law (as it is?) is somewhat what we are up against, so ask

yourself what does the law and what is legal really serve, and what are we

really seeking, let's just go for that? .. . (That the law, as it is, serves

justice? I think not, by definition, of what it is serving.. .

Do more (of what is meaningful and just?) of what you can I figure is the real

alternative to the way things are. Your question is still valid in that respect

and I await what we have to offer and are capable of in that respect.

Glavic

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> This is an interesting approach. Any lawyers or law savvy people out there

with a good idea on how to get around the red tape while suing the vaccine

companies?

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> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 23:50:45 -0500

> Subject: Re: [ ] Another study linking Thimerosal/vaccines to

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> --- say like...Al Capone did many bad things, even murder, but they couldn't

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> get him on that, so then finally they put him away for tax evasion instead.

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> We have to find some other way to sue them rather than vaccine damage.

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> I'd like to sue them for " familiacide " as my son is the only male heir to

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[Guest guest]

Hi Haven,

The system supports complexity because that confuses people into submission? and

politics and abuse of the Individual? Thanks for your account. I'm sure you

were doing your job. Now you realize you have to do theirs, justice, that anyone

else would, that anything is more meaningful. If you make justice your thing I'm

sure you'll achieve it! (as best you can?) that health or anything else would

matter, that everything else would be in its proper place.. Trying to

understanding more takes us to the same thing *internally,* I figure.. .

I also figure our speaking (from, and of, our hearts? of such facts and what is

so primary?) is the basis of a/the more meaningful constitition (and law) and

not so much the other way around, which is also saying (trying to say?) that it

is up to us so serve justice (Wherever we can? wherever we want it to exist.. .)

that anyone else would or will. I figure justness is a facet of a/the more

meaningful existence.. (Something the state isn't realizing for us?) I hope to

hear more from you in that respect, or whatever interests you, that that won't

take you so far or further.. .

Glavic

Obamanation? A satirical opinion (of my view of politics, generally

http://www.naturalnews.com/031838_Obama_America.html

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> ,

>

> I have had to work hard all my life. Even though my parents were upper

> middle class, they " gave " me nothing. I had to work for everything. It's a

> long story. I don't regret learning to work hard and that " nothing comes

> for free. " so I worked hard and I had a dream, and just when my dream was

> beginning to come true, my son was damaged by vaccines.

>

> Due to the damage to his immune system along with the current state of the

> education of children with " autism " (which I think is just a politically

> correct term they use to be able to exonerate themselves form what it is

> (toxic poisoning), I never could return full-time to work. Yet, I have

> never worked harder in my life than I have to heal my son. I did not say

> " cure. " There is a difference.

>

> After my son was damaged and I began to realize what was really going on in

> our country concerning over vaccination and the politics of it all, there

> was a news story that ran in Dallas which exposed the truth, and I naively

> said to myself, " Ah, now they will see what they have done and put a stop to

> the systematic poisoning of our children. " Instead, since the

> pharmaceutical industry basically owned the network the story ran on, the

> reporter was fired, and I have no clue where she went -- I haven't heard her

> name again.

>

> I thought, if there were a serial child poisoner on the loose, the entire

> law enforcement community would rally to find the culprit, but since the

> serial poisoner is a cartel of multi-billion dollar corporations, and since

> our own government is controlled by the cartel, and the news media is

> controlled by the same cartel, and the hospital system can't survive without

> the $$$$$$$ it gets from the cartel, and law enforcement is controlled by

> the politicians -- tell me where in this haystack may we find a needle's

> worth of justice and democracy.

>

>

> My husband and I worked hard so that we wouldn't have to worry every month

> whether or not the bills could get paid -- not rich in monetary respect, but

> just able to afford what was needed and a few things we wanted. we were on

> track so that we could enjoy " retirement " in our sixties. Our farm would

> have been paid off two years ago. Now it will take another God knows how

> long.

>

> I am NOT " bitter " but I am angry. When we have a Supreme Court that says a

> parent cannot sue for vaccine damages and parents still line their children

> up like lambs to the slaughter. WHO in their right mind would play Russian

> Roulette with their children's brains? WHO, knowing that if anything goes

> wrong the responsibility falls squarely on their shoulders and not the

> manufacturers would agree to such a deal?

>

> Many parents just forget it and go on, but they have already reduced parents

> rights to exemptions in many states. Shall we wait until it gets in this

> state to protest? By then it will be to late?

>

> I believe they violated just about every " inalienable right " granted to my

> son and all these children, and if we cannot find justice and democracy for

> THESE, then it is just an illusion -- something taught to the working

> classes so that they will keep working so as to protect the upper corporate

> class' lifestyle.

>

> Like Boxer in *Animal Farm*, we have been duped. Even my own father said

> once, " Well, if ABC News reports it, then it must be true, " in reference to

> their reporting that vaccines do not cause autism.

>

> Like Boxer, I thought if I just worked hard enough, my dreams would come

> true and life would fall into place. I never considered a doctor would lie

> to me to further her own agenda. I NEVER imagined the country I love would

> make a decision to sacrifice my only son for its perceived " greater good "

> theory.

>

> We are BARBARIANS -- we have evolved no more than those of eons ago, who

> used to throw a child into the volcano for their belief that it would

> insure a good harvest.

>

> Over vaccination/mass vaccination has not and will not make the human race

> stranger as a whole. In contrast, I believe it has made us all weaker. I

> am not against vaccination in the presence of a clear and present danger,

> but I am against forced vaccination, and I am vehemently against exonerating

> any corporation from liability for its products in the absence of true and

> informed consent, and I believe it is an inalienable right to refuse any

> substance from being injected into their body and that parents must have a

> preserved right to decline for their children.

>

> These children and their families deserve justice and fair compensation for

> their injuries. Period. The question is how do we make justice a reality

> for them?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, repeated, if not improved upon, because I figure it says a lot to do so! of

the message (The mainstream news repeats a lot of things, if not mostly BS, or

of our patheticness/hopelessness? .. .

Hi Haven,

The system supports complexity because that confuses people into submission? and

politics and abuse of the Individual? Thanks for your account. I'm sure you

were doing your job. Now you realize you have to do theirs, justice, that anyone

else would, that anything is more meaningful. If you make justice your thing I'm

sure you'll achieve it! (as best you can?) that health or anything else would

matter, that everything else would be in its proper place.. Trying to understand

more takes us to the same thing *internally,* I figure

I also figure our speaking (from, and of, our hearts? of such facts and what is

so primary?) is the basis of a/the more meaningful constitition (and law) and

not so much the other way around, which is also saying (trying to say?) that it

is up to us so serve justice (Wherever we can? wherever we want it to exist.. .)

that anyone else would or will. I figure justness is a facet of a/the more

meaningful existence.. (Something the state isn't realizing for us?) I hope to

hear more from you in that respect, or whatever interests you, that that won't

take you so far or further.. .

Glavic

Obamanation? A satirical opinion (of my view of politics, generally

http://www.naturalnews.com/031838_Obama_America.html

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> >

> > I have had to work hard all my life. Even though my parents were upper

> > middle class, they " gave " me nothing. I had to work for everything. It's a

> > long story. I don't regret learning to work hard and that " nothing comes

> > for free. " so I worked hard and I had a dream, and just when my dream was

> > beginning to come true, my son was damaged by vaccines.

> >

> > Due to the damage to his immune system along with the current state of the

> > education of children with " autism " (which I think is just a politically

> > correct term they use to be able to exonerate themselves form what it is

> > (toxic poisoning), I never could return full-time to work. Yet, I have

> > never worked harder in my life than I have to heal my son. I did not say

> > " cure. " There is a difference.

> >

> > After my son was damaged and I began to realize what was really going on in

> > our country concerning over vaccination and the politics of it all, there

> > was a news story that ran in Dallas which exposed the truth, and I naively

> > said to myself, " Ah, now they will see what they have done and put a stop to

> > the systematic poisoning of our children. " Instead, since the

> > pharmaceutical industry basically owned the network the story ran on, the

> > reporter was fired, and I have no clue where she went -- I haven't heard her

> > name again.

> >

> > I thought, if there were a serial child poisoner on the loose, the entire

> > law enforcement community would rally to find the culprit, but since the

> > serial poisoner is a cartel of multi-billion dollar corporations, and since

> > our own government is controlled by the cartel, and the news media is

> > controlled by the same cartel, and the hospital system can't survive without

> > the $$$$$$$ it gets from the cartel, and law enforcement is controlled by

> > the politicians -- tell me where in this haystack may we find a needle's

> > worth of justice and democracy.

> >

> >

> > My husband and I worked hard so that we wouldn't have to worry every month

> > whether or not the bills could get paid -- not rich in monetary respect, but

> > just able to afford what was needed and a few things we wanted. we were on

> > track so that we could enjoy " retirement " in our sixties. Our farm would

> > have been paid off two years ago. Now it will take another God knows how

> > long.

> >

> > I am NOT " bitter " but I am angry. When we have a Supreme Court that says a

> > parent cannot sue for vaccine damages and parents still line their children

> > up like lambs to the slaughter. WHO in their right mind would play Russian

> > Roulette with their children's brains? WHO, knowing that if anything goes

> > wrong the responsibility falls squarely on their shoulders and not the

> > manufacturers would agree to such a deal?

> >

> > Many parents just forget it and go on, but they have already reduced parents

> > rights to exemptions in many states. Shall we wait until it gets in this

> > state to protest? By then it will be to late?

> >

> > I believe they violated just about every " inalienable right " granted to my

> > son and all these children, and if we cannot find justice and democracy for

> > THESE, then it is just an illusion -- something taught to the working

> > classes so that they will keep working so as to protect the upper corporate

> > class' lifestyle.

> >

> > Like Boxer in *Animal Farm*, we have been duped. Even my own father said

> > once, " Well, if ABC News reports it, then it must be true, " in reference to

> > their reporting that vaccines do not cause autism.

> >

> > Like Boxer, I thought if I just worked hard enough, my dreams would come

> > true and life would fall into place. I never considered a doctor would lie

> > to me to further her own agenda. I NEVER imagined the country I love would

> > make a decision to sacrifice my only son for its perceived " greater good "

> > theory.

> >

> > We are BARBARIANS -- we have evolved no more than those of eons ago, who

> > used to throw a child into the volcano for their belief that it would

> > insure a good harvest.

> >

> > Over vaccination/mass vaccination has not and will not make the human race

> > stranger as a whole. In contrast, I believe it has made us all weaker. I

> > am not against vaccination in the presence of a clear and present danger,

> > but I am against forced vaccination, and I am vehemently against exonerating

> > any corporation from liability for its products in the absence of true and

> > informed consent, and I believe it is an inalienable right to refuse any

> > substance from being injected into their body and that parents must have a

> > preserved right to decline for their children.

> >

> > These children and their families deserve justice and fair compensation for

> > their injuries. Period. The question is how do we make justice a reality

> > for them?

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

In response to your link , it reminded me of this Bible story my children

and I read yesterday:

" Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together and came to

in Ramah and said to him " Behold you are old and your sons do not walk in your

ways. Give us a king to judge us, like all the other nations.

Their words displeased . He prayed to the Lord and God answered, saying:

" Listen to the voice of all the people, for it is not you that they have

rejected, but me, that I may not reign over them. As they have forsaken me and

served false gods ever since that day I brought them out of Egypt, even so do

they unto you. So listen to their voice. Nevertheless, make a solemn protest,

and show them what kind of a king is going to reign over them. "

(from The Children's Bible (1965), Editorial Advisory Board - Father ph E.

Krause, Dr. Terrien, Rabbi H. Wice)

I don't think anything has changed, about us.

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> >

> > I have had to work hard all my life. Even though my parents were upper

> > middle class, they " gave " me nothing. I had to work for everything. It's a

> > long story. I don't regret learning to work hard and that " nothing comes

> > for free. " so I worked hard and I had a dream, and just when my dream was

> > beginning to come true, my son was damaged by vaccines.

> >

> > Due to the damage to his immune system along with the current state of the

> > education of children with " autism " (which I think is just a politically

> > correct term they use to be able to exonerate themselves form what it is

> > (toxic poisoning), I never could return full-time to work. Yet, I have

> > never worked harder in my life than I have to heal my son. I did not say

> > " cure. " There is a difference.

> >

> > After my son was damaged and I began to realize what was really going on in

> > our country concerning over vaccination and the politics of it all, there

> > was a news story that ran in Dallas which exposed the truth, and I naively

> > said to myself, " Ah, now they will see what they have done and put a stop to

> > the systematic poisoning of our children. " Instead, since the

> > pharmaceutical industry basically owned the network the story ran on, the

> > reporter was fired, and I have no clue where she went -- I haven't heard her

> > name again.

> >

> > I thought, if there were a serial child poisoner on the loose, the entire

> > law enforcement community would rally to find the culprit, but since the

> > serial poisoner is a cartel of multi-billion dollar corporations, and since

> > our own government is controlled by the cartel, and the news media is

> > controlled by the same cartel, and the hospital system can't survive without

> > the $$$$$$$ it gets from the cartel, and law enforcement is controlled by

> > the politicians -- tell me where in this haystack may we find a needle's

> > worth of justice and democracy.

> >

> >

> > My husband and I worked hard so that we wouldn't have to worry every month

> > whether or not the bills could get paid -- not rich in monetary respect, but

> > just able to afford what was needed and a few things we wanted. we were on

> > track so that we could enjoy " retirement " in our sixties. Our farm would

> > have been paid off two years ago. Now it will take another God knows how

> > long.

> >

> > I am NOT " bitter " but I am angry. When we have a Supreme Court that says a

> > parent cannot sue for vaccine damages and parents still line their children

> > up like lambs to the slaughter. WHO in their right mind would play Russian

> > Roulette with their children's brains? WHO, knowing that if anything goes

> > wrong the responsibility falls squarely on their shoulders and not the

> > manufacturers would agree to such a deal?

> >

> > Many parents just forget it and go on, but they have already reduced parents

> > rights to exemptions in many states. Shall we wait until it gets in this

> > state to protest? By then it will be to late?

> >

> > I believe they violated just about every " inalienable right " granted to my

> > son and all these children, and if we cannot find justice and democracy for

> > THESE, then it is just an illusion -- something taught to the working

> > classes so that they will keep working so as to protect the upper corporate

> > class' lifestyle.

> >

> > Like Boxer in *Animal Farm*, we have been duped. Even my own father said

> > once, " Well, if ABC News reports it, then it must be true, " in reference to

> > their reporting that vaccines do not cause autism.

> >

> > Like Boxer, I thought if I just worked hard enough, my dreams would come

> > true and life would fall into place. I never considered a doctor would lie

> > to me to further her own agenda. I NEVER imagined the country I love would

> > make a decision to sacrifice my only son for its perceived " greater good "

> > theory.

> >

> > We are BARBARIANS -- we have evolved no more than those of eons ago, who

> > used to throw a child into the volcano for their belief that it would

> > insure a good harvest.

> >

> > Over vaccination/mass vaccination has not and will not make the human race

> > stranger as a whole. In contrast, I believe it has made us all weaker. I

> > am not against vaccination in the presence of a clear and present danger,

> > but I am against forced vaccination, and I am vehemently against exonerating

> > any corporation from liability for its products in the absence of true and

> > informed consent, and I believe it is an inalienable right to refuse any

> > substance from being injected into their body and that parents must have a

> > preserved right to decline for their children.

> >

> > These children and their families deserve justice and fair compensation for

> > their injuries. Period. The question is how do we make justice a reality

> > for them?

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

A communication king (or queen?) I'd think, Liz (Hello, to as much?) that always

involves two-way (if not All-way!) Communication, (More direct, I'd hope, rather

than subject to interpretation by politicians and lawyers, and charlatans, of

a/the truer Individuality, and Justice?) which doesn't have to be a popularity

contest and, probably shouldn't be, where popularity takes us as has taken us?

... .

Yes, we do say we like the truth and that it is popular with us, where it's what

we want to hear, that that will ever change?

Thank God for necessity?!. I figure that separates the chaff from the wheat, and

if anyone would understand what I mean (in this respect) you would, of getting

It right (No, not politically right, that that ain't especially left or wrong,

as far as I'm concerned.. .

Yeah, true, this isn't much more than what I Feel, that that should have any

place anywhere or in the greater scheme of things.. .

Mike Glavic

We're all kings and queens when we speak for ourselves I Figure (So?) (despite

what the charlatans and abusers would say otherwise, is more than a guess with

me. No, not all kings and queens live the life of Riley, or whatever (Sheesh? ..

..

In the name of The truth of Understandingmore, and The justice of as much, well

Amen !

So what if nobody likes It?!. (of not understanding It?) I do.. .

You might too, by as much, I Figure

Yes, I have issues with politics.. . but not so much otherwise

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > I have had to work hard all my life. Even though my parents were upper

> > > middle class, they " gave " me nothing. I had to work for everything. It's

a

> > > long story. I don't regret learning to work hard and that " nothing comes

> > > for free. " so I worked hard and I had a dream, and just when my dream was

> > > beginning to come true, my son was damaged by vaccines.

> > >

> > > Due to the damage to his immune system along with the current state of the

> > > education of children with " autism " (which I think is just a politically

> > > correct term they use to be able to exonerate themselves form what it is

> > > (toxic poisoning), I never could return full-time to work. Yet, I have

> > > never worked harder in my life than I have to heal my son. I did not say

> > > " cure. " There is a difference.

> > >

> > > After my son was damaged and I began to realize what was really going on

in

> > > our country concerning over vaccination and the politics of it all, there

> > > was a news story that ran in Dallas which exposed the truth, and I naively

> > > said to myself, " Ah, now they will see what they have done and put a stop

to

> > > the systematic poisoning of our children. " Instead, since the

> > > pharmaceutical industry basically owned the network the story ran on, the

> > > reporter was fired, and I have no clue where she went -- I haven't heard

her

> > > name again.

> > >

> > > I thought, if there were a serial child poisoner on the loose, the entire

> > > law enforcement community would rally to find the culprit, but since the

> > > serial poisoner is a cartel of multi-billion dollar corporations, and

since

> > > our own government is controlled by the cartel, and the news media is

> > > controlled by the same cartel, and the hospital system can't survive

without

> > > the $$$$$$$ it gets from the cartel, and law enforcement is controlled by

> > > the politicians -- tell me where in this haystack may we find a needle's

> > > worth of justice and democracy.

> > >

> > >

> > > My husband and I worked hard so that we wouldn't have to worry every month

> > > whether or not the bills could get paid -- not rich in monetary respect,

but

> > > just able to afford what was needed and a few things we wanted. we were

on

> > > track so that we could enjoy " retirement " in our sixties. Our farm

would

> > > have been paid off two years ago. Now it will take another God knows how

> > > long.

> > >

> > > I am NOT " bitter " but I am angry. When we have a Supreme Court that says

a

> > > parent cannot sue for vaccine damages and parents still line their

children

> > > up like lambs to the slaughter. WHO in their right mind would play

Russian

> > > Roulette with their children's brains? WHO, knowing that if anything goes

> > > wrong the responsibility falls squarely on their shoulders and not the

> > > manufacturers would agree to such a deal?

> > >

> > > Many parents just forget it and go on, but they have already reduced

parents

> > > rights to exemptions in many states. Shall we wait until it gets in this

> > > state to protest? By then it will be to late?

> > >

> > > I believe they violated just about every " inalienable right " granted to

my

> > > son and all these children, and if we cannot find justice and democracy

for

> > > THESE, then it is just an illusion -- something taught to the working

> > > classes so that they will keep working so as to protect the upper

corporate

> > > class' lifestyle.

> > >

> > > Like Boxer in *Animal Farm*, we have been duped. Even my own father said

> > > once, " Well, if ABC News reports it, then it must be true, " in reference

to

> > > their reporting that vaccines do not cause autism.

> > >

> > > Like Boxer, I thought if I just worked hard enough, my dreams would come

> > > true and life would fall into place. I never considered a doctor would

lie

> > > to me to further her own agenda. I NEVER imagined the country I love

would

> > > make a decision to sacrifice my only son for its perceived " greater good "

> > > theory.

> > >

> > > We are BARBARIANS -- we have evolved no more than those of eons ago, who

> > > used to throw a child into the volcano for their belief that it would

> > > insure a good harvest.

> > >

> > > Over vaccination/mass vaccination has not and will not make the human race

> > > stranger as a whole. In contrast, I believe it has made us all weaker. I

> > > am not against vaccination in the presence of a clear and present danger,

> > > but I am against forced vaccination, and I am vehemently against

exonerating

> > > any corporation from liability for its products in the absence of true and

> > > informed consent, and I believe it is an inalienable right to refuse any

> > > substance from being injected into their body and that parents must have a

> > > preserved right to decline for their children.

> > >

> > > These children and their families deserve justice and fair compensation

for

> > > their injuries. Period. The question is how do we make justice a reality

> > > for them?

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I do enjoy your very unique ideas and communication .

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > >

> > > > I have had to work hard all my life. Even though my parents were upper

> > > > middle class, they " gave " me nothing. I had to work for everything.

It's a

> > > > long story. I don't regret learning to work hard and that " nothing

comes

> > > > for free. " so I worked hard and I had a dream, and just when my dream

was

> > > > beginning to come true, my son was damaged by vaccines.

> > > >

> > > > Due to the damage to his immune system along with the current state of

the

> > > > education of children with " autism " (which I think is just a

politically

> > > > correct term they use to be able to exonerate themselves form what it is

> > > > (toxic poisoning), I never could return full-time to work. Yet, I have

> > > > never worked harder in my life than I have to heal my son. I did not

say

> > > > " cure. " There is a difference.

> > > >

> > > > After my son was damaged and I began to realize what was really going on

in

> > > > our country concerning over vaccination and the politics of it all,

there

> > > > was a news story that ran in Dallas which exposed the truth, and I

naively

> > > > said to myself, " Ah, now they will see what they have done and put a

stop to

> > > > the systematic poisoning of our children. " Instead, since the

> > > > pharmaceutical industry basically owned the network the story ran on,

the

> > > > reporter was fired, and I have no clue where she went -- I haven't heard

her

> > > > name again.

> > > >

> > > > I thought, if there were a serial child poisoner on the loose, the

entire

> > > > law enforcement community would rally to find the culprit, but since the

> > > > serial poisoner is a cartel of multi-billion dollar corporations, and

since

> > > > our own government is controlled by the cartel, and the news media is

> > > > controlled by the same cartel, and the hospital system can't survive

without

> > > > the $$$$$$$ it gets from the cartel, and law enforcement is controlled

by

> > > > the politicians -- tell me where in this haystack may we find a needle's

> > > > worth of justice and democracy.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My husband and I worked hard so that we wouldn't have to worry every

month

> > > > whether or not the bills could get paid -- not rich in monetary respect,

but

> > > > just able to afford what was needed and a few things we wanted. we were

on

> > > > track so that we could enjoy " retirement " in our sixties. Our farm

would

> > > > have been paid off two years ago. Now it will take another God knows

how

> > > > long.

> > > >

> > > > I am NOT " bitter " but I am angry. When we have a Supreme Court that

says a

> > > > parent cannot sue for vaccine damages and parents still line their

children

> > > > up like lambs to the slaughter. WHO in their right mind would play

Russian

> > > > Roulette with their children's brains? WHO, knowing that if anything

goes

> > > > wrong the responsibility falls squarely on their shoulders and not the

> > > > manufacturers would agree to such a deal?

> > > >

> > > > Many parents just forget it and go on, but they have already reduced

parents

> > > > rights to exemptions in many states. Shall we wait until it gets in

this

> > > > state to protest? By then it will be to late?

> > > >

> > > > I believe they violated just about every " inalienable right " granted to

my

> > > > son and all these children, and if we cannot find justice and democracy

for

> > > > THESE, then it is just an illusion -- something taught to the working

> > > > classes so that they will keep working so as to protect the upper

corporate

> > > > class' lifestyle.

> > > >

> > > > Like Boxer in *Animal Farm*, we have been duped. Even my own father

said

> > > > once, " Well, if ABC News reports it, then it must be true, " in

reference to

> > > > their reporting that vaccines do not cause autism.

> > > >

> > > > Like Boxer, I thought if I just worked hard enough, my dreams would come

> > > > true and life would fall into place. I never considered a doctor would

lie

> > > > to me to further her own agenda. I NEVER imagined the country I love

would

> > > > make a decision to sacrifice my only son for its perceived " greater

good "

> > > > theory.

> > > >

> > > > We are BARBARIANS -- we have evolved no more than those of eons ago, who

> > > > used to throw a child into the volcano for their belief that it would

> > > > insure a good harvest.

> > > >

> > > > Over vaccination/mass vaccination has not and will not make the human

race

> > > > stranger as a whole. In contrast, I believe it has made us all weaker.

I

> > > > am not against vaccination in the presence of a clear and present

danger,

> > > > but I am against forced vaccination, and I am vehemently against

exonerating

> > > > any corporation from liability for its products in the absence of true

and

> > > > informed consent, and I believe it is an inalienable right to refuse any

> > > > substance from being injected into their body and that parents must have

a

> > > > preserved right to decline for their children.

> > > >

> > > > These children and their families deserve justice and fair compensation

for

> > > > their injuries. Period. The question is how do we make justice a

reality

> > > > for them?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I too noticed that many of the docs have no qualms offering to vaccinate an ASD

kid. They don't get it. Our ped doesn't get it, I know that.

>

> How about this one: The same pediatrician who in the winter of '09 said,

> " Are you sure I can't talk you into giving him a flu shot and the H1N1 " (to

> which I replied if you shoot me first) then said to me a few months ago when

> I was talking about the changes I had made to my son's supplements, " Well,

> it's really all about 'First, do not harm. " I just about cracked up

> laughing in his face! Do No Harm my @$$! What a joke!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I feel your pain. (I can empathize with as much) I too believe in an eye for an

eye, of justice! (I'm not sure you'll be getting that with your proposal though,

becoming more like them of as much?) and not so much a lie for a lie, otherwise.

I intend to be a *game changer* if not game ender in that/this respect (where

I'm not already?) I wish as much for All.

Fail Humanity otherwise (I do. So what, with its power of authority, of abuse,

otherwise? Funny how the political world doesn't get that right about others,

Individuals? who aren't here anymore in that respect? But what really else,

people are that stupid? Not, true Individuals, I also figure, from my reading

between the lines.. .

Ain't this true enough to be both effective and secure?!. I figure (So much for

story-telling? .. .

Some of us have done our best in that/this respect, I figure, feel, whatever,

sense?!. (Not a language class, that the language don't *squirm/mutate* like a

fish. Or maybe it's just the folks behind as much? .. . Do you think.. . [it's

my language too.. .

You won't be getting a lie for a lie from me (Just tell the critters they're out

of line, the *right* line, by what they do otherwise? You'd be amazed?) any more

than I can help It? .. . Don't be confused. There's no hope in that, I

Especially figure

I feel *confusion* (of lies? of censorship) is the problem behind fear, and the

crap behind that.. .

Hit 'em straight in the face! (Or leave them for dead? or later .. . Better have

been, I Feel

Best wishes, Thereof

Glavic

My method is entailed in as much.. . Getting The truth out (The truth of as

much? .. . Understandingmore, and the Justice that comes from that

I figure that beats story-telling (and old-fashioned puzzle-solving?!.

>

> No one is vaccinating my child again in the absence of a clear and present

> danger, and even then, I have a contract ready for them to sign. I think I

> will make it vague and give them the same full disclosure they gave me.

>

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