Re: Need help with 10 year old

[Guest guest]

How much Valtrex did you have him on and did you use antifungals at the same

time. I think the antifungals are supposed to help with the yeast flare ups

during Valtrex.

Have you ruled out a milk sensitivity?

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 2:53 PM, kimberlykay03 <mfiske@...> wrote:

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>

> Hello, I would like some advice on how to help my son. He does not have an

> ASD diagnosis, but is probably ADD/mild ASD. Most of his issues are anxiety

> related - OCD, ODD. He's very hyperactive and most supplements we've tried

> make him moreso, even the calming ones like 5HTP. Lately his biggest issue

> is he likes to annoy people. Has anyone experienced this? Could that be

> anxiety related too? He gets a lot of cold sores and because the anxiety

> issues can be realted to viruses we recently finished one month of Valtrex.

> It helped with the coldsores but his behaviors seem worse. Should we try

> another month? We've treated for yeast before with Nystatin and VSL#3. He

> didn't test very high for it to begin with and didn't see any change. We've

> tested his neurotransmitter hormone levels (dopamine, seratonin, etc.) and

> the calming hormones were very low and excitatory hormones were off the

> chart high. I guess this test isn't very reliable, but it definately made

> sense. We've also done a thyroid test and his THS number was extremely high,

> but a compounded thyroid medication didn't seem to help.

> Not sure where to go next. Any thoughts/advice would be appreciated. Thank

> you!

>

>

>

--

Zurama

Mickie 13yrs

Round #43

25mg DMSA 25mg ALA

[Guest guest]

I guess I'd ask if done any food allergy testing, diets? I'd at least look into

the Feingold diet. Check it out if you haven't.

Also look hard into the viruses, with the cold sores, herpes related? I think

Dana will tell you lysine and more. Check out her web site.

If swallowing pills, I'd do a round on the Huma work, a parasite protocol and

see if you see any changes. Couldn't hurt. My son was maybe 9-10 when we did a

round and he said he felt better on. (I need to do again actually to be safe

here too.)

Biotin is cheap, doing at least 5 mg twice a day for yeast. Can not hurt.

Tammy

[ ] Need help with 10 year old

Hello, I would like some advice on how to help my son. He does not have an ASD

diagnosis, but is probably ADD/mild ASD. Most of his issues are anxiety related

- OCD, ODD. He's very hyperactive and most supplements we've tried make him

moreso, even the calming ones like 5HTP. Lately his biggest issue is he likes to

annoy people. Has anyone experienced this? Could that be anxiety related too? He

gets a lot of cold sores and because the anxiety issues can be realted to

viruses we recently finished one month of Valtrex. It helped with the coldsores

but his behaviors seem worse. Should we try another month? We've treated for

yeast before with Nystatin and VSL#3. He didn't test very high for it to begin

with and didn't see any change. We've tested his neurotransmitter hormone levels

(dopamine, seratonin, etc.) and the calming hormones were very low and

excitatory hormones were off the chart high. I guess this test isn't very

reliable, but it definately made sense. We've also done a thyroid test and his

THS number was extremely high, but a compounded thyroid medication didn't seem

to help.

Not sure where to go next. Any thoughts/advice would be appreciated. Thank

you!

[Guest guest]

Hi , the things you say make me think that his gut is in bad condition

and he needs yeast treatment.

What helps my son when his gut is bad is: aloe (eaten raw or in smoothie or just

aloe juice), limited diet (no gluten, dairy, soy, legumes), lots of magnesium

(epsom salt baths or supplements) - with taurine if not absorbed well, Vitamin C

(ascorbate form) or amla.

For yeast:

Probiotics: After meals and before bed. High count acidophilus and

bifidobacterium (Custom Probiotics has a good one on www.ourkidsasd.com, I am

not affiliated), and Saccharomyces Boullardii (make sure both probiotics do not

contain S. Cerevasae, which is the yeast in the Hep B vaccine, because if he had

the vaccine he may react badly to it).

Yeast control:

1 of either Candex or Candidaise given on empty stomach during the day or before

bed

Caprylic Acid - coconut oil, on a regular basis - use on food or in cooking

Any of the following after his gut is in better condition as preventative

treatment: Grapefruit Seed Extract, Oil of Oregano, Olive Leaf Extract

Biotin - essential, use daily

Recently I learned that there is such a thing as too much yeast treatment that

can lead to an imbalance and bacterial overgrowth. To prevent this, give

cranberry juice once in awhile.

I think that you should chelate, but I also think that you should concentrate on

getting inflammation down by doing an ALCAT food sensitivity test or something

similar so that you have a good idea of foods that can be well tolerated on a

rotation diet. Chelation is much easier when you have some of the triggers out

of the way. If there is constant yeast, my guess is that there are too many

triggers and they need to be discovered (they could be supplements too, not just

food). If yeast treatment is not effective, try cranberry juice and goldenseal

to see if it is bacteria giving him trouble.

That is what I have done/would do in your situation.

>

> Hello, I would like some advice on how to help my son. He does not have an

ASD diagnosis, but is probably ADD/mild ASD. Most of his issues are anxiety

related - OCD, ODD. He's very hyperactive and most supplements we've tried make

him moreso, even the calming ones like 5HTP. Lately his biggest issue is he

likes to annoy people. Has anyone experienced this? Could that be anxiety

related too? He gets a lot of cold sores and because the anxiety issues can be

realted to viruses we recently finished one month of Valtrex. It helped with

the coldsores but his behaviors seem worse. Should we try another month? We've

treated for yeast before with Nystatin and VSL#3. He didn't test very high for

it to begin with and didn't see any change. We've tested his neurotransmitter

hormone levels (dopamine, seratonin, etc.) and the calming hormones were very

low and excitatory hormones were off the chart high. I guess this test isn't

very reliable, but it definately made sense. We've also done a thyroid test and

his THS number was extremely high, but a compounded thyroid medication didn't

seem to help.

> Not sure where to go next. Any thoughts/advice would be appreciated. Thank

you!

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello, I would like some advice on how to help my son. He does not have an

ASD diagnosis, but is probably ADD/mild ASD. Most of his issues are anxiety

related - OCD, ODD. He's very hyperactive and most supplements we've tried make

him moreso, even the calming ones like 5HTP. Lately his biggest issue is he

likes to annoy people. Has anyone experienced this?

In my household, my oldest son liked arguing with people and generally getting

on their nerves because he was bored. He is very bright and also has a long

list of learning disabilities and other handicaps. So he was having trouble

getting his intellectual needs met. After I learned he was gifted and realized

he did this out of boredom, I was able to break this cycle by taking his

negative behavior as a sign he needed something more entertaining/engaging to do

(other than watch mom turn purple and sputter at him -- he targeted me a lot in

part because he knew that no matter how crazy he made me, I wasn't going to hit

him or something).

My youngest became less OCD when we began resolving mold issues in the house.

Around here, feelings of anxiety seem at least in part related to an immune

system under stress. The heart not only powers the blood system it also powers

the lymphatic system. We have noted a very clear pattern of stress on the heart

at times of physiological stress (including healing crises) that could be

misinterpreted as anxiety. I've done a lot of stuff over the years to support

my heart -- you might search the posts here for comments I have made in the past

on that. Working on supporting my heart health and resolving general underlying

health issues has done a lot to make me more grounded and emotionally stable and

less anxious.

Good luck with this.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

[Guest guest]

How many mercury amalgam dental fillings does he have? When were his most

recent vaccines? Have you done a DDI hair test and applied counting rules?

What's his diet like? Have you tried social stories?

S S

Need help with 10 year old

Posted by: " kimberlykay03 " mfiske@... kimberlykay03

Sat Jan 8, 2011 2:53 pm (PST)

Hello, I would like some advice on how to help my son. He does not have an ASD

diagnosis, but is probably ADD/mild ASD. Most of his issues are anxiety related

- OCD, ODD. He's very hyperactive and most supplements we've tried make him

moreso, even the calming ones like 5HTP. Lately his biggest issue is he likes to

annoy people. Has anyone experienced this? Could that be anxiety related too? He

gets a lot of cold sores and because the anxiety issues can be realted to

viruses we recently finished one month of Valtrex. It helped with the coldsores

but his behaviors seem worse. Should we try another month? We've treated for

yeast before with Nystatin and VSL#3. He didn't test very high for it to begin

with and didn't see any change. We've tested his neurotransmitter hormone levels

(dopamine, seratonin, etc.) and the calming hormones were very low and

excitatory hormones were off the chart high. I guess this test isn't very

reliable, but it definately made sense. We've also done a thyroid test and his

THS number was extremely high, but a compounded thyroid medication didn't seem

to help.

Not sure where to go next. Any thoughts/advice would be appreciated. Thank you!

[Guest guest]

>>He gets a lot of cold sores and because the anxiety issues can be realted to

viruses we recently finished one month of Valtrex. It helped with the coldsores

but his behaviors seem worse. Should we try another month? We've treated for

yeast before with Nystatin and VSL#3.

I eliminated cold sores here with lysine. And the viral die off caused by the

elimination of the cold sores really increased yeast. Since the Valtrex helped,

try lysine and significantly increase the yeast protocol.

>>We've also done a thyroid test and his THS number was extremely high, but a

compounded thyroid medication didn't seem to help.

I eliminated thyroid issues here with selenium, iodine, and tyrosine.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the suggestions, I was starting to get discouraged.

I didn't give him anything for yeast while on the Valtrex, so that explains a

LOT of the past month. I tried Candex over the weekend and he was off the walls

the next day. Would that be a " die off " reaction? I'm afraid to try again when

he has school. Maybe something else will be easier on him?

We did the food allergies panel and the only thing he tested sensitive for was

dairy. We try to limit, but now that he's older it's harder. Are there any

digestive enzymes that are for good for dairy?

He had four mercury amalgans that he had removed about 6 months ago. But it was

not a mercury free dentist so I'm sure that's an issue. I do want to get the

hair analysis and do the counting rules soon, but thinking we need to get some

other things going first. He had the polyphorins(sp?) test done and that didn't

show any mercury exposure, but I know that's not reliable.

One last question: how can I figure out dosing for all the different

supplements? He is a (very thin) 60 pound 10 year old. It seems like even the

recommendations by DANs are lower than is needed to see results.

Thanks again for all the help...

>

> Hello, I would like some advice on how to help my son. He does not have an

ASD diagnosis, but is probably ADD/mild ASD. Most of his issues are anxiety

related - OCD, ODD. He's very hyperactive and most supplements we've tried make

him moreso, even the calming ones like 5HTP. Lately his biggest issue is he

likes to annoy people. Has anyone experienced this? Could that be anxiety

related too? He gets a lot of cold sores and because the anxiety issues can be

realted to viruses we recently finished one month of Valtrex. It helped with

the coldsores but his behaviors seem worse. Should we try another month? We've

treated for yeast before with Nystatin and VSL#3. He didn't test very high for

it to begin with and didn't see any change. We've tested his neurotransmitter

hormone levels (dopamine, seratonin, etc.) and the calming hormones were very

low and excitatory hormones were off the chart high. I guess this test isn't

very reliable, but it definately made sense. We've also done a thyroid test and

his THS number was extremely high, but a compounded thyroid medication didn't

seem to help.

> Not sure where to go next. Any thoughts/advice would be appreciated. Thank

you!

>

[Guest guest]

> I didn't give him anything for yeast while on the Valtrex, so that explains a

LOT of the past month. I tried Candex over the weekend and he was off the walls

the next day. Would that be a " die off " reaction? I'm afraid to try again when

he has school. Maybe something else will be easier on him?

Try biotin.

The reaction might be intolerance, die off, or that your dose was either too

high or not high enough.

> We did the food allergies panel and the only thing he tested sensitive for was

dairy. We try to limit, but now that he's older it's harder. Are there any

digestive enzymes that are for good for dairy?

I used HNI, try the TriEnza.

> One last question: how can I figure out dosing for all the different

supplements?

I started with low dose and worked up.

Dana