Re: Supplement totals

[Guest guest]

Glutamine can cause some kids to get really stimmy. It made my kids go

nuts.

On 3/12/11 4:21 PM, " hdelay@... " <hdelay@...> wrote:

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> Dear Listmates:

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> If there is someone more knowledgeable than me. We are doing AC Protocol, and

> things are going really well (except for increased stimming at times, which

> bothers me more than it does my son, I'm sure. I reviewed all his

> supplements, and am wondering if I am giving too much of something and not

> enough of other things. the things that don't have notations are contained in

> a multi mineral or multi vitamin, and I'm wondering if they are redundant and

> I should just stop the multi's. In writing it out, it seems he is on so much.

> Most of the A, E, and Omega's come from Fish oil or EFA (flax). I am also

> wondering if I can give more L-theanine as this seems to calm him down when he

> is really hyper. Any info would be appreciated.

> I can't help it, the stimming makes me think I've missed something. It may

> just be metals or yeast, but I want to be sure I'm not under or over using

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> ACE(MG) 100 (divided by two doses)

> ALC(MG) 250

> ALA (MG) 12.5 (Per AC Protocol)

> d-BITOIN(MCG) 3300 (divided by three doses)

> BORON(MCG) 500

> CALCIUM (mg) 385 (divided by two doses)

> CO Q 10 (mg) 25

> CHOLINE (mg) 14

> CHROMIUM(mg) 30

> FOLIC ACID(mcg) 400

> GSE(mg) 250 (divided by two doses)

> INULIN(mg) 245

> IODINE(mcg) 10

> IRON(mg) 2.9

> L-GLUTAMINE(mg) 40

> L-TAURINE(Mg) 40

> L-THEANINE (mg) 100

> MAGNESIUM (mg) 480 (divided by three doses)

> MANGANESE(mcg) 1800

> MILK THISTLE(mg)100

> MOLYBDENUM(mcg) 5

> NIACINAMIDE(mg) 20

> OMEGA 3(mg) 600 (by two doses)

> OMEGA 6 (mg) 150 (by two doses)

> OMEGA 9 (mg) 360

> P5P (mg) 2

> PANTOTHENIC ACID(mg) 10

> PROBIOTICS(billions) (one Pro Bio Defense and one culturelle)

> SELENIUM (mcg) 95

> VIT. A (IU) 2890

> VIT. B19MG) 3

> VIT. B2(MG) 3.4

> VIT. B6(MG) 2

> VIT. B12(MCG) 12

> VIT C (MG) 1060 (divided over four doses)

> VIT. D 3(IU) 1284 (divided over two doses)

> VIT.E(IU) 45 (divided over three doses)

> ZINC(MG) 42 (divided over 3 doses)

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[Guest guest]

Haven for my boy stimming is pain. It took me many years to figure that out,

but he is in pain and he is trying to divert his attention away from it. He

does not stim when he is not in pain.

I don't know about your supps because I also have trouble figuring them out, but

I give a lot more biotin and Ca and Mag and Taurine than that. However I'm no

expert on the supps. Deb

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> > Dear Listmates:

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> > If there is someone more knowledgeable than me. We are doing AC Protocol,

and

> > things are going really well (except for increased stimming at times, which

> > bothers me more than it does my son, I'm sure. I reviewed all his

> > supplements, and am wondering if I am giving too much of something and not

> > enough of other things. the things that don't have notations are contained

in

> > a multi mineral or multi vitamin, and I'm wondering if they are redundant

and

> > I should just stop the multi's. In writing it out, it seems he is on so

much.

> > Most of the A, E, and Omega's come from Fish oil or EFA (flax). I am also

> > wondering if I can give more L-theanine as this seems to calm him down when

he

> > is really hyper. Any info would be appreciated.

> > I can't help it, the stimming makes me think I've missed something. It may

> > just be metals or yeast, but I want to be sure I'm not under or over using

> > something.

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> > ACE(MG) 100 (divided by two doses)

> > ALC(MG) 250

> > ALA (MG) 12.5 (Per AC Protocol)

> > d-BITOIN(MCG) 3300 (divided by three doses)

> > BORON(MCG) 500

> > CALCIUM (mg) 385 (divided by two doses)

> > CO Q 10 (mg) 25

> > CHOLINE (mg) 14

> > CHROMIUM(mg) 30

> > FOLIC ACID(mcg) 400

> > GSE(mg) 250 (divided by two doses)

> > INULIN(mg) 245

> > IODINE(mcg) 10

> > IRON(mg) 2.9

> > L-GLUTAMINE(mg) 40

> > L-TAURINE(Mg) 40

> > L-THEANINE (mg) 100

> > MAGNESIUM (mg) 480 (divided by three doses)

> > MANGANESE(mcg) 1800

> > MILK THISTLE(mg)100

> > MOLYBDENUM(mcg) 5

> > NIACINAMIDE(mg) 20

> > OMEGA 3(mg) 600 (by two doses)

> > OMEGA 6 (mg) 150 (by two doses)

> > OMEGA 9 (mg) 360

> > P5P (mg) 2

> > PANTOTHENIC ACID(mg) 10

> > PROBIOTICS(billions) (one Pro Bio Defense and one culturelle)

> > SELENIUM (mcg) 95

> > VIT. A (IU) 2890

> > VIT. B19MG) 3

> > VIT. B2(MG) 3.4

> > VIT. B6(MG) 2

> > VIT. B12(MCG) 12

> > VIT C (MG) 1060 (divided over four doses)

> > VIT. D 3(IU) 1284 (divided over two doses)

> > VIT.E(IU) 45 (divided over three doses)

> > ZINC(MG) 42 (divided over 3 doses)

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> > Sincerely,

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> > Haven

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for the advice. I too have trouble figuring it all out. I know

some thins Like ALC help him for sure, along with calcium, magnesium, and

zinc, and selenium. I'm thinking to eliminate the mutil vitamin and mineral

and do thins separately so as to have more control. I will look to see

where the glut- amine is coming from (I know it was separate; it was in

something else) -- maybe in one of the multis. Thanks again.

Haven

[Guest guest]

Removing the multi has helped my boy. At first I thought it was a good thing

but he kept falling apart on me and I realized I had increased the multi

doseage. It had C and D in it and he cannot tolerate those. Once I removed it

I did not notice much, but I added it back again and he got so much worse. Not

I am just using individual supps so I can control things better, no multi.

I'm finding today that increasing the magnesium is helping a lot. First I

increased the calcium citrate and now I'm increasing the magnesium to get to 2:1

ratio. He is so happy, he put on his King Halloween costume and he is dancing

to a Barney video. My cute little big boy feels good tonight. Hooray!

Deb

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> Thank you for the advice. I too have trouble figuring it all out. I know

> some thins Like ALC help him for sure, along with calcium, magnesium, and

> zinc, and selenium. I'm thinking to eliminate the mutil vitamin and mineral

> and do thins separately so as to have more control. I will look to see

> where the glut- amine is coming from (I know it was separate; it was in

> something else) -- maybe in one of the multis. Thanks again.

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> Haven

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[Guest guest]

On another autism 'board I had questioned about stimming, several wrote to me

stating that it was a sign of leaky gut. When my boy stims, he tells me he is

'thinking'. He usually stims when he is excited or is absorbing something new,

like when he draws maps or schematics.

I haven't figured out yet what is causing it with him if it is leaky gut. He

won't sit still to get his blood drawn for immunoglobulin testing, so I have to

observe closely for triggers right now.

He has a physical this week, so I may have to hold him if I have a mind to have

the tests finally done.

Sheila

[Guest guest]

Sheila,

Your son likes to design things too?! My son loves to design buildings

inside and out using " Sketch Up. " He says he wants to be an architect.

I think you are right. I think I need to exclude the multis. But then do I

just buy B vitamins separate? Which B vitamins do you have your son on?

when you say a 2:1 ration on the Cal/Mag is that twice the calcium as

magnesium or twice the magnesium? I have him on about 400 mg a day of

magnesium citrate but less calcium.

I am going to stop the multis, I think that is where the glutamine is -- in

one of those. But I thik he needs some B vitamins. what do you do for " B "

vitamins?

When my son is designing, the stimming is absent. His is present when he is

not particularly engaged in anything or he is out swinging, which he loves

to be on the swing.

Thanks for all your help.

Haven